Germs so you can feel 100 in life. Bring out the bold™. What just happened about 12 hours ago . A plane got blown out of the sky. If anybody thinks it wasnt blown out of the sky, youre 100 wrong, folks. It does appear it was an act of terrorism. Exactly how, of course, the investigation will have to determine. Welcome to morning joe. Its friday, and you see they are fighting. May 20th. With us onset, on the democratic side theres news too about the convention. Former Communications Director for president george w. Bush nicole is with us. The president on the council of Foreign Relations joe haus along with willie and me. A long week, a lot of news. Long week, a lot of news. The passing of an icon. Both of you guys have worked with him. Morley safer passed away yesterday. But my gosh, your father has been there for such a long time. Mika, you worked at cbs for such a long time. Had a chance to talk with him and work with all of the greats. That was one of the moments meeting someone like morley safer youre like, wow. His story telling was amazing. His writing was amazing. His heart and his soul that he put into his work was amazing. What don hewitt and the entire team did over there was nothing short of extraordinary. For anyone whos only seen him on 60 minutes, go back and watch online the 60 minutes from last kweek. He started in london, inherited that desk, went to vietnam a year later when he changed the public conversation and then 40 or 50 more years of incredible coverage. So smart, such a great writer. With a ting of joy in every piece no matter what it was about. A ting of joy, but also a ting of toughness. Tough guys. I mean mike wallace, ed bradley, morley safer. The great clip was the last piece they did when mike wallace was leaving ten years ago. Theres always been this tension between them. Even in the farewell interview, they are fighting and bickering. Its the best tv. The secret of 60 minutes is they fight to the death in the screening rooms. I have been to a few of those. You dont come out well. But your piece is better. If it makes it. Mohr lee asked in that interview, when i arrived, were you a little threatened by me. He said i was so far ahead of you, i didnt know you were here. Well have more ahead. But were going to begin news
wise with breaking news. The Egyptian Military says this morning they believe the navy has found some belongings of passengers, even parts of the plane from flight 804. They describe the items as being 180 miles outside of alexandria, egypt. The plane lost contact 170 miles off the egyptian coast. A ministry of defense spokes mantles nbc news they are absolutely sure the wreckage is from flight 804 and all wreckage will be brought back to egypt for investigation. Its been more than 24 hours since the flight disappeared and the cause of the crash is still unclear. The missing egyptair e jet took off from paris after 11 00 p. M. Local time. Radar last detected it flying over the Mediterranean Sea minutes before it was scheduled to land in cairo. They identified the pilot and copilot, an interior Ministry Official told the new york
times that both had no known affiliations and had passed security background checks. A senior u. S. Intelligence official familiar with the region tells nbc news images strongly suggest there was an explosion aboard the plane. This is not a confirmation, but a working theory for investigation. With us know, chief correspondent bill neilly. Get us up to date with the latest. Reporter good morning, guys. This is officially still a search and rescue operation, but rescue seems a long shot as theres no sign of life from flight 804. As for the search, egyptian officials seem convinced that they have found something off the coast of egypt near alex alexandria. Plane debris and passengers belongings, according to Egyptian State tv. But none of this has been confirmed. The egyptians have been wrong before and wrong many times
about plane crashes. So we really should treat this with great caution. I know from personal experience in the methditerranean there ar lots o of life preservers from sunken refugee boats that float to the surface. Many of which will look like debro from an aircraft, so these are early stages so far. Im at cairo airport, where investigators are meeting. Three came in from france yesterday. Also an airbus executive from france. Investigators from britain are being assisted by about half a dozen nations, both at sea and in the air. A u. S. Naval search aircraft is taking part in that search, which is over a wide area. At the minute, we must stress no claim of responsibility from anyone. No direct suggestion that this was terrorism. So all option res main open. Thank you so much. Lets now fwo to denver. We have former senior air safety investigator greg fife. We sit 24 hours later. What more have you been able to put together as you have listened to some of this evidence come in . Willie, as we went through all of yesterday with information, misinformation, they put the information out, they redacted the information. Its very difficult at this point to really have any kind of substantial information thats credible. Apparently the officials are hanging their hat on the radar data, especially the defense folks and talking about the motion of the airplane as it descended from 37,000 feet. We dont know what context that is in. We dont know what happened just requiprior to that based on thi radar data. Until we get flight data recorder and voice recorder information, i dont know we can actually confirm whether the
motion of the airplane, the turn to the left and the spiraling turn to the right was either because there was a problem with the airplane or that was the result of some sort of explosion and the airplane just spiraling out of the sky. Greg feith, thank you so much. This is one of the stories that every report is we dont know exactly whpd yet. We dont know the context. Were pretty sure we know what happened. Well, no. Were not going to say what we think happened and we dont know what happened. Were not going to churn ridiculously over and over about it. A new poll with trump and clinton. Pretty extraordinary stuff as far as its a close race. But the disapprovals, the trust worthy numbers, this is mind
blowing that the overwhelming majority of americans think neither of them are honest, neither of them are trust worthy and they are both dishonesdisho. Hes untouchable. Shes called it every time. Im getting a pickup truck for the republican nomination. You could probably get an Aircraft Carrier if you went to the general election. A helicopter would be good. Tragedy with egyptair. Theres politics now surrounding it. Hillary clinton and donald trump
say it appears that terrorism was involved in this plane crash. But it also touched off a tense back and forth over Foreign Policy after she was asked if trump was qualified. I do not. Whether its attacking Great Britain, praising the leader of north korea, a dictator who has Nuclear Weapons, whether it is saying pull out of nato, let other countries have Nuclear Weapons. I know how hard this job is. I know that we need steadiness, as well as strength and smarts in it. And i have concluded hes not qualified to be president of the United States. Today we had a terrible tragedy and she came up and she said that donald trump talked about radical islamic terrorism, which he used a different term. She doesnt want to use that
term. She refuses to use that term. Im saying to myself, its a terrible thing. He essentially shouldnt be running for office. He doesnt have the right to run for office. Im saying to myself what just happened about 12 hours ago . A plane got blown out of the sky. If anybody thinks it wasnt blown out of the sky, youre 100 wrong, folks. By the way, clinton is now fundraising off her remarks that trump is not qualified. Already this morning trump is up and tweeting. I said that crooked Hillary Clinton is not qualified to be president because she has very bad judgment. Bernie said the same thing. And crooked hillary has zero imagination and even less stamina. Isis, china, russia and all would love for her to be president. Four more years. Dt donald trump will be our guest in just a few minutes. Thats like ten pounds of sugar into a fivepound pbag. The bernie mention, hes going to leverage everything bernie has said. Bernie is still going after Hillary Clinton. Trump is using that. Hes making headway, at least with the dnc. I think they are trying to work with him. They are trying to make up for i think hes making headway. Hes doing real damage to her. We talked a second ago about trump being 3 points ahead of her. I think theres a direct line you can drawn to the damage inflicted from the right and the left of the ideological spectrum. The anger is really palpable out there towards the dnc from bernie supporters. Nevada is the most extreme version of that, but you go online and see whats being written and see the tweets. Its really, really palpable in a way that i think, youre right, bernie supporters arent just going to kiss and make up. I dont think so. Yesterday we saw the fox news poll that shows trump at 45 and clinton at 42 . Now this morning, as joe ment n mentioned, a New York Times poll shows shes doin 3 since april. Clinton is at 31 , trump a mere 26 . Is this what we got . The opinion of candidates, richard, a president that has to lead a nation into war or make a nation sacrifice, financially in an economic crisis, lets put the numbers back up. They are stunning. Not that i dont want to see richards face because he is beautiful, but these numbers, 31 favorability for Hillary Clinton. 26 for donald trump. How does a president lead . Whoever wins is going to inherit a demanding end Box International ly and domestically. This doesnt shout mandate at you. This doesnt shout a country coming together ready to compromise and step up and make tough decisions, whether its on the budget or taxes or big Foreign Policy questions. You almost get the sense whoever w wins is going to enter in with a lot of head winds. And a real challenge to bring the country together to step up to difficult situations. What makes it worse is trump is going to go after clinton with a vengeance. Clinton is already promised to spend hundreds of millions of dollars destroying his character. Its not like these numbers are going to go up. Its already started. Theres been some things said that are just beyond the pale of what anyone would talk about. Six more months of that. How do those numbers get any higher . We never thought wed be in a position where donald trump would have locked up the republican nomination before Hillary Clinton got the democratic nomination. His negatives probably wont go up as much as hers because hes not getting attacked every day by a number of rivals. On all sides. That was one of the numbers in the poll that i was most interested in. The sub headline is republicans are lining up in a strong way behind donald trump. A guy that half of them seem to hate like two weeks ago. It was an unpalettable thought a couple months ago. Theres no way i will support, never trump. Now only 12 of republicans say they wont support him. U yo believe that . So this was an idea when it started a year ago that seemed impossible. Lets be honest. That donald trump would be the
nominee, let alone be president of the United States. Now prominent republicans out in the country are saying, well, i guess were going this. Over 8 out of 10 gop voters say trump deserves the partys backing. Theres another poll question here that talks about is your Party Divided. Are you happy where your party is going. Republicans fair horribly. 14 of republicans believe their party is united. 84 believe its divided. They have a grim view of the future. I read this number four times last night when i got our note. I think that this is sort of the amplified voice of the establishment that exacerbates these figures. We look at where our voters are. 84 of our voters want the gop to get behind trump. If you look at the idea as to whether or not were divide ud, its so out of whack. I think this is sort of the effect of the amplification of
the establishment voices who are still expressing concern and doubts about trump. Then theres the Bernie Sanders angle. Does that play into these numbers . Yeah, i do. I wonder where they are going to go. I think they are totally up for grabs. Thats the way to put it. They are definitely up for grabs. 11,000 people in california. Susan ze ran dan said something a couple weeks ago about trump. Im supporting bernie. She backed off that. You can never see her going in with her pingpong paddle. Its an amazing place. But the mere fact that she would have trouble saying, yes, of course, i would go from bernie
to hillary shows you just how deep the division is in that party. Youre going to see some people voting for the green party. Youre going to see some people staying home. Im sorry, hillary and bernie are just two extraordinary different political brnds. They are not in the same universe. They are as different as bernie and trump. Their second choice was bernie. No longer the principle identifying label in america. Were seeing in this election for the first time class. We become more like europe. I never thaugd id see the day where class was closer than party. Were beginning to see that. In a big way. The group of people that are just wide open waiting for somebody to run are millennials. They loathe hillary. They loathe trump. They love bernie, but if bernie doesnt make it, you have 1 out
of 5 voters, millennials. The future of america wondering where they are going to go. Look at the young faces in the crowd. You cant deny this. Its still happening even though they have no path. But they show up. I feel like they havent told them that. Lets not underestimate the intelligence. I wouldnt say he has absolutely no path. As the democratic nominee, he has no path. Unless the fbi steps in. If the fbi steps in, and thats part of their calculous. Why u drop out why the investigation is still beginning on. These people want us to speak. Were going to keep going because hes 74 years old. Its not like hes going to play it safe for eight years from now. For Bernie Sanders supporters, this is not token opposition to the person they u believe is
going to be the knee e. They believe Hillary Clinton should not be the nominee. They believe at their core Bernie Sanders should be the nominee. My point is they are not going to roll over and support Hillary Clinton for nothing. They want bernie to be the nominee, but number two, they want to extract something from Hillary Clinton. The system is rigged thing, they feel that about their party. Because it is. Theres a reason why Bernie Sanders has gotten 27 per contributor. The guy has raised almost 180 million on small donations averaging 27. Its extraordinary. Its like anything in politics ever before and the reason why is because he believes in something. He has a core set of believes that he hasnt moved off of since the early 1960s. He fights for it. His people know it. They sense it. And why in the world would he sit back and say the calculated move is to get out of the race and maybe ill get a few things. It doesnt work that way when you have been living this for 50 years. Dont you think he has less leverage that its becoming so acrimoniou acrimonious. He has more. A lot to get to. 21 past the hour. I have to explain to my friends on the house floor they dont respect you if you always say yes. No, im not voting for that. Stop asking, no. I think that happened yesterday. No, im not voting. Then walk away. They come back to you. What do you need, joe . Coming up on morning joe, continuing coverage of the downed egyptair aircraft. Also ahead the Presumptive Republican nominee for President Donald Trump joins us for a live interview. Thats just moments away. Its going to be huge. Its going to be the greatest interview. Look at this. The number two democrat in the Senate Illinois dick durbin sizes up security in americas
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