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It is, but the problem is that summer romance continued and the 17yearold became 70 and hes still acting the same exact way. Instead of you just wondering whats going on. Its friday, june 17th. Mika has the morning off. Congratulations, this is graduation weekend. The author of the book Political Writer for the New York Times. And chris jansing. In washington we have katty kay. Great to have you guys all with us. A lot to talk about today. Your book, i saw a tweet last night. You talked about how the middle school kid that didnt have any people over to his Birthday Party. A parent tweeted that she was trying to have a Birthday Party for her child and nobody would rsvp, which happens a lot. They reached out to the local Police Department and a whole bunch of cops showed up with presents. Why cant more parents get their kids to other parties. Thank god for the police. Im going to say two or three of the saddest days as a parent for me was when that happened with my son when he had asp bergers in middle school and it break yours heart. I saw that last night. I wanted to say for parents out there and for you, theres such great hope. Andrew is extraordinary now. Hes graduated from college. He just got married. Thats wonderful. And he is so happy. His mother and i could have never imagined. What extraordinary strides that he made. Because of friends and Community Members that came around him and really helped him grow. In the case of andrew, it took not only a village, but a loving village and everybody came together. Unfortunately its not just parents with special needs kids. We all go through it where kids feel bullied. Without exception, when you see a jerky kid and thats what i found over the years. But theres nothing like watching your kid suffer or not feel a part of something. You just stay in it. This is something that didnt have kids. You have 15 rounds. And its like ali and frazier. The 15th round youre slumped and youre dead. Guess what happens then. The bell rings again. Its the 16th round and you know what you do . You lift yourself off the chair bloodied and beaten and go back in there again for the 16th or 17th. However many rounds it takes, you keep fighting and stay in there and most of the time good things happen. I know they have with me. Im so blessed by god and so blessed by the family that surrounded my children. Its a battle. My grandma always gave me this Bumper Sticker that said the battle is the wars. The battle never ends. You just had your first child last month. Congratulations. Take a deep breath. Because it is forever. Katty kay, you know it is forever. Big kids, big problems, but i will tell you even bigger rewards. Its pretty extraordinary. I didnt mean for this to be a parenting thing. Why not . Its fathers day weekend. It is fathers day weekend. Before we break into news, lets talk just really quickly about well, we had some happy news out of england yesterday followed by tragic news about this young, talented, gifted young member of parliament that was just gunned down needlessly in her home district. We live in a country we got inoculated to the news that people got shot, but this doesnt happen in the uk and the news that joe cox, 41 years old. She has two very young kids. A woman who committed herself to serving other people. I spoke to somebody last night who knew her and worked with her on mortality issues around the world. She was a fabulous woman. Super nice and low key. Didnt take herself too seriously. But really determined to serve her population and her constituents. She was killed while she was out on the street about to go to the local library u to meet with her constituents. In england we call it surgery and she was about to hold surgery in york shire. This guy came up and shot her. Its really stunned the country. A deranged local, which well have more information on that throughout the show. Lets go right now to our lead story this morning. Were going to take you to iraq. Its just coming in. Iraqi forces claimed to have liberated sma ed parts of fallu. They didnt face tough resistance because many had already escaped. U. S. Officials are urging the white house to change its course in dealing with the civil war in syria. The New York Times is saying that objection to Administration Policy comes from 51 diplomats. A memo filed in a channel they called for u. S. Strikes against the regime of president bashar al assad. They say that would hel drive stronger u. S. Diplomatic efforts. Just on wednesday the secretary of state called a truce that is frayed and at risk. Violence shows no signs of baiting in the 5yearold conflict thats claimed the lyes of 400,000 people. The serious situation just seems to get worse by the moment. We have seen it unfolding before our eyes. Its been a nightmare and we have seen it around this set in realtime. We cant complain we didnt know. And you could go back and find clips where we would ask can policymakers. Im serious. 20,000 have died there. What are we going to do . 40,000 have died there. I remember the summer that 40,000 became 100,000. Wed say to policymakers, what do we do . Its difficult. Its very difficult. Its now a leader in this administration that has turned a blind eye and the entire west to the blind eye to violence and bloodshed. It actually would have made the bosnians pretty remarkable. It is staggering, but it does point the dichotomy. We have seen what happened when we toppled other regimes. Between we want to do the right thing. We dont want to have this kind of bloodshed, but we dont want to go beyond drone strikes and airstrikes. We dont want to talk about having ground troops. We dont want to talk about how do we get more than 1,000 of our population fighting in a war. Do we do mandatory National Service to get more people in the military. So we want to have our hands clean. In this day in age, i dont know if you can have both. You look over the past several years since this has been going. Its not just the 400 dead. That tragedy in syria is a refugee crisis that has rocked the world. That has rocked the middle east. Thats rocked europe. Thats helped create isis. And yet all we hear is its just too tough. Its too difficult. At some point we have to do something to stop this. At every stage in the debate has been will more action make things worse or better. Is there a way to improve this by acting. I u think the president decided at various stages to do too much more and embroil us in one more conflict like iraq. I dont think theres a huge amount of appetite for a huge intervention. What would you do . I would say we have no choice. But today . Youre in charge, you push the button. Sometimes theres a remove bix cube. We have a humanitarian crisis thats unprecedented across europe since world war ii. Everybody gets upset when they see pictures of little children downing. We get upset. What does the World Community do though . The first thing is they go in together and they create a safe zone in syria. A huge safe zone. And we provide free passage back to the syrians that had been spread across the globe. And yes, we contribute a lot of money along with the the rest of the world. Along with saudi arabia. Along with japan. Along with china. And we let isis or anybody else know if they get in the way of the Syrian Refugees returning to their homeland, well shoot them dead right where they are. We will use any force necessary to allow as many syrians to come as possible and well kill anybody that stands in their way. As for assad, assad must go. 400,000 dead. Theres no other choice. By the way, i have moved on that. If we have to replace him the same way we replaced hitler in 1945, thats how it is. The other side of the argument, every time we take one of these guys out, theres a vacuum thats worse than the monster. I understand, but what Saddam Hussein was doing was internal for the most part. What assad has done has brought a great unbalance to the middle east and to the world. Has helped create and theres a void u. You cant keep fighting the last war. We have been fighting the last war like generals always fight the war. 400,000 people are dead. The middle east is in chaos. Other governments may topple because of the chaos. Europe is in chaos. We are seeing europes government change radically under the pressure of the refugees. We are seeing the entire face of europe changing politically because of this. This is a crisis, unlike iraq, which was contained in iraq. We screwed up going in. This is a crisis that is infecting the entire globe. Yet we sit back and do nothing. Its a crisis of missed opportunities. If we had acted much sooner when the war broke out, if the west had backed a secular moderate opposition that was making gains against the regime, we could have had an impact. I think youre exactly right. The choice is primarily to address the humanitarian crisis and that starts with a safe haven and a nofly zone and that has to be implemented and enforced. We have to help the jordanians. We have to help the lebanese, who countries being destabilized. A third of the population are Syrian Refugees. Imagine what that does to a tiny country. We have to get them back to a safe haven and do everything to protect that safe haven from isis and the government of assad. Its rationalable that something i keep hearing from Administration Officials they think is a good idea has not happened yet. And we have been hearing fromAdministration Officials and Foreign Policy people for four years. Its just too hard. And it started when assad crossed the red line and the president backed off. The problem for the administration is that they are concerned that intervention, going against the assad regime is going to lead to a conflict with russia and iran. They are concerned theres to appetite for this. Is there appetite in congress . Given the weariness. When you have this critique of 51 different people, its an embarrassment for the administration but it also points to the idea that e we need to have serious discussions. Were in the middle of a political campaign. This is not going to go away in january when the new president takes office. There needs to be a serious conversation on the campaign trail about these issues. Is there an appetite for the United States of america to send 200,000 troops in . No, theres not. This is up to the west. This the up to the World Community. When have they step ped up fr us ever . 1991. This is the middle easts problem. This is europes problem. This is the worlds problem. This isnt about america going after Saddam Hussein. The question is the president s appetite. The president wanted to make this happen, he would make the case to rally the people of america behind it and rally the world behind it. The issue is the president. He doesnt think its the right thing to do. The president never has had the appetite. The president doesnt have the relationship with Foreign Policy leaders either because thats just not something he ever valued. How does any candidate run for office where we have seen trump rally. When what is going on here with infrastructure . Whats going on with jobs . Whats going on across the country . Whats going on with terrorism that we just came off the worst week as long as we can remember as far as we need to put more resources behind things. How do you sell that . Its connected. Terrorism is connected. Katty kay, ill let you help me here. It is so connected. The chaos across europe is coming to america. Theres no doubt there are hundreds of thousands of refugees. They are creating chaos across europe right now. They are spread iing across the globe. They are coming to america. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when. Right, we know the thousands of people that have gone to train and fight with in syria have passports. They have access to travel around the globe. Thats a terrifying prospect. You have to deal with the syrian issue if your going to deal with a refugee crisis and terrorism crisis thats spreading through europe and to north america as well. It is connected. E we cant just ignore this one. Its happening and its having a direct impact on us here. I think shes having to be careful about what she really says. If you want to get Samantha Power to talk about what she thinks about us sitting on our hands while 400,000 syrians have been slaughtered and theres been an unprecedented refugee crisis while we sat back and did nothing, i dont think youre going to get her to say that while the camera is on. It would be an interesting time. We have a lot to talk about. Still ahead on morning joe, john mccain lays the massacre at the feet of president obama. Then he misspoke. But the Trump Campaign liked what he said the first time. And a 14hour fill bibuster the floor of the senate. Chris murphy is going to be our guest and the first signs of movement on gun law reforms. Also Bernie Sanderscampaign member jeff weaver joins us. Also some very frightening warnings that we got from the director of the cia. Were going to be talking about that, much more from trump land. First, heres bill karins with a check on the forecast. Fathers day weekend is goings to be brutally hot. Other areas will be gorgeous. The story overnight was the sherpa fire. This one grew. Winds gust up to 40 miles per hour. 1,000 firefighters on this. Now its up to 2,000 acres. The diameter is 4 miles wide and the fire is 0 contained. 80s today with hoe winds. Then sunday up to 100 degrees with gusts to 20 to 30. Thats a scary fire. I mentioned great stuff. New england locks great. Chicago, thats more like it. But the whole southern half of the country, the heat domes over top of you. We have heat advisories, warn g warnings, watches. We have warningings for those. So be careful this upcoming weekend. If we get anything, watch tucson and phoenix. Youll be 117 in tucson. That would be incredible. Washington, d. C. , you dealt with the big thunderstorms yesterday. A lot of wind damage and trees. Cloudy today, much cool er. Youre watching morning joe, well be right back. Gary, gary, gary. I am proud of you, my man. Making simple, smart cash back choices. With quicksilver from capital one. 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I just want to wet my beak a little bit. Actually vanity fair yesterday reporting that donald trump and his people are trying to figure out howo use this to create their own cable news channel after its over. Hes building this base. It doesnt matter whether he wins or loses. He builds a base, a hard core, solid base. He keeps them, he starts trump tv and makes millions and millions of dollars off of it. The Republican Party dies. He kills the Republican Party. He wipes out the republican senate, but he is building, as vanity fair says, hes building a hardcore base. Its been an open question. Is he running to run for president and win or to build donald trump. First it was to build donald trump. Then it was hes running for president. Now were back again to the first idea. Which is perhaps really about building the brand. I ask that all the time. Does he really want to be president . No, and ive asked him that and hes never answered. In one regard, the brand is tarnished because e he cant do anything advertiser related anymore u. But what will happen, well have a third party Going Forward. It will be the trump party. It will be a tv network. It will be the glen beck formula of 2 a month subscription. Thats the irony. He will end up richer than ever. After every event, lets say we have a state of the union address, the cameras will go to trump. Youre saying after he loses. After he loses. Thats the plan. It sounds like the plan to me. Katty kay, im glad he has a blan to get rich off this campaign, because he doesnt seem to have a plan to win it. Remember that time he tried to sell steaks at a press conference. Well see if we have more of that. A year after declaring he doesnt need anybodys money, donald trump is reportedly angling away from the battleground states and focusing on fundraising. Sources tell the New York Times that the private events for donors were often scheduled first fol

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