Expected to appear doing an event at the university of New Hampshire there in durham. Donald trump holds rallies in both iowa and wisconsin while his running mate mike pence holds an event in mention that clinton is getting help from First Lady Michelle Obama who makes two stops in pennsylvania today, a sign that there may be some concern over that state. Thats going to do it for us this wednesday. Morning joe starts right now. Did anybody see that debate last night . [ applause ] oh yes. One down two to go. He made it very clear that he didnt prepare for that debate. You know, at one point he was kind of digging me for spending time off the campaign trail to get prepared but just trying to
keep track of everything he says took a lot of time and effort. For 90 minutes i watched her very carefully. I was also holding back. I didnt want to do anything to embarrass her. Good morning. Its wednesday, september 28th. Its almost over. Almost in october. Can i ask you a question . What . Look at halperin for a second. Hes very handsome. Im wondering if we need to get rid of him. Weve been getting together for dinner, and its a little too much. Quite frankly its a big problem. Hes up seven pounds. Technically im morbidly obese. We can take him up to the
club. Get him a trainer. Well put it all on tape. With us we have Mike Barnicle who is looking pretty fit. Legendary. About eight over. Do we call halperin mr. Piggy . No. Wouldnt be the worst thing ive been called already this morning. And Mark Halperin and msnbc political analyst and professor at the school of public policy, former democratic congressman harold ford jr. Well get into this story. I guess because im almost 140. You should leave. I should get out of the business. Lets not talk about weight . Why . Who cares. Im heavier than you think. I tweet my weight. Go on. Its not about you. Okay. It actually though is about
women. Yes, it is. Not women who look like you. We get on the set and everybody said where they were yesterday. This is all people were talking about. The Miss Universe thing. I went to kates Parent Teacher thing last night. By the end of the night when the parents were outside, everybody was talking about him calling a poor woman fat, miss piggy, et cetera. At the time, youre like wait, thats jarring. Wherever you went, its all people were talking about. Drugstore yesterday getting a prescription. Paying for the prescription. Woman unfortunately for her recognizes me. And asks me what i thought about the debate. I said, well, that was really something. What did you think about the debate . She referencing miss piggy. She reference donald trump referring to the 1996 winner of
the Miss Universe pageant and what he said about her, and she is furious behind the counter taking my visa card, furious. Mark halperin, same with you . Yes. This is something people can understand and its really they say this about a lot of what donald trump has done in this campaign. Its unbelievable he tried to chose to recover from a bad debate performance by attacking this woman saying she was a bad contestant and worst they had. When he criticized her for her weight and the fact that she had problems because of that experience. Of all of the things hes done in the campaign this could linger in a way that could hurt him. He must do better with female voters to win. He must. Its not going to help. It cuts to the core of everything thats wrong with donald trump as it pertains to
women. Hillary Clintons Campaign has put out a video that actually shows him in realtime during the pageant era when this woman won and he actually says, well, shes gained a lot of weight. She clearly likes to eat a lot. And walked away. Called her miss eating machine. It was unbelievable. This is not going to work. And by the way, she wasnt lets get into the story. What he did yesterday as a followup. I cant believe what happened yesterday. Im still digesting the reaction he got. The former Miss Universe thrush into the spotlight during the first president ial debate. The 1996 Miss Universe in making a point about Donald Trumps remark about women. Clinton claimed that trump called her miss piggy and miss
housekeeping because she was latina. This is how donald trump defended those remarks yesterday. When she brought up the person that became i know that person. That person was a Miss Universe person. She was the worst we ever had. The worst. The absolute worst. She was impossible. And she was a Miss Universe contestant and ultimately a winner who they had a tremendously difficult time with as Miss Universe. She was the winner. She gained a massive amount of weight and it was a real problem. We had a real problem. Not only that, her attitude and we had a real problem with her. Hillary went back into the years and she found this this was many years ago. And found the girl and talked about her like she was mother theresa and it wasnt quite that way. Thats okay. Hillary has to do what she has to do. They looked uncomfortable. That conversation went on and
no one said to him what . Excuse me . Did you just say what . Did you say she gained a lot of weight and that was a problem . Ive never seen a more awkward interview in my life and quite frankly the most unfullfilling interview in my life. How can they not say thats incredibly inappropriate . Would you like to rephrase yourself . Are you saying that the fact that this woman gained weight is a problem . Did you just say that . This is about donald trump and whats incredible, mika, is this is about donald trump. Lets focus on donald trump. Whats incredible about donald trump is the night before with something he did 20 years ago that was terrible, he then doubles down and says she was the worst contestant ever and she gained a lot of weight. Thats just unbelievable. The day after a debate. He mixes Rosie Odonnell in with Nuclear Threats. And then he goes on the day after to fox friends talking about a woman saying she picked up a tremendous amount of weight. Maybe she weighed 160 or 170 or Something Like that. A lot of women said i would like to look like that. Thats a healthy weight. Whatever she was. Leave aside the window into his attitude that this represents. Leave that aside. Im not minimizing it. In the Clinton Campaign they constantly look at things trump does and they cannot believe hes giving them the political opportunity. This is the exact thing they have thought for months they would win the election on which is trumps attitude toward women and many other people is just not something the country is going to see as fit for president. This is exactly what they would
want to have happen. The fact that shes latina and a woman, the fact shes an hispanic woman, they couldnt script it any better. It will be on saturday night live on saturday. The day after a debate attacking an hispanic woman and basically digging back up the fact that you called her miss housekeeping because she was latina and also calling a latina woman fat. And an immigrant. Repetitive nature of the news cycle is such today that were doing this stories, other stations will do this story and other news outlets will do the story and the miss housekeeping phrase is just as damaging as miss piggy. People look at debates and maybe its a conversation about nato or the defense against this or that or the other. There are in every debate
moments that penetrate public consciousness. At my School Meeting last night, Parent Teacher conference and duane reed in new york city, everywhere you went, sure everywhere you went, this was the moment that penetrated where people said oh my god does this guy have the temperament to be president of the United States . Thats the word that stood out for me. He talked about it during the debate. It was interesting and bewildering to say that his temperament was better than Hillary Clintons. He had every right to say that. Hes entitleded to his own opinion. The immediate body of work from the debate shows that he doesnt have the temperament. How do you not the next morning after being confronted with words that were wrong, inflammatory and damaging to your campaign not back up and move onto Something Else. Consistent with what he did during the debate. Every time he was thrown bait by secretary clinton, he took it and took it. He couldnt help himself. He can never avoid striking back. The miss housekeeper piece is as damaging as anything. Theres these moments where he attacks the weak, the vulnerable. The people that he doesnt see rises to his occasion and knocks them down and it is exact opposite of what inspires us in leade leaders. Theres a book that i reviewed on Bobby Kennedy. Great moment while i was reading it i started to tear up where Bobby Kennedy in the 68 Campaign Sees this little girl that looks awkward. Lost her front tooth. Freckles. Head is down. Bobby in the middle of everything and there werent microphones on him, he got down on his hands and he grabbed her by the face, and he said youre beautiful. Your freckles, dont be
embarrassed of your freckles. You look like one of my daughters. Youre the most beautiful girl i have ever seen. He connects with her. You go home. Be proud. A beautiful girl. You made my day. Gives her a big hug. The girl runs off. The mom is crying. The girl is on cloud nine and he elevates. He lifts. He finds somebody that feels awkward and out of place and not a part of the crowd, and he makes them feel like hes part of a community with a hug and with some positive words. We have the opposite of that right here. Whether its a reporter with a disability or whether its a woman who is overweight or whether its somebody that just doesnt measure up to what his image is of what should be the superior race. Its one after another. The Clinton Campaign has damning evidence that this is a
decades old conviction in him. Weight issues and things about women because theyve got a video that shows him years ago, we can find that sound bite, talking about this pageant winner saying how much she likes to eat and kind of laughing it off and walking away. The thing is, judgmentwise, how do you go back to that the morning after . How do you not know thats we all said stupid things on tv 20 years ago. 10 years ago. For me, yesterday. We all made mistakes. Why does he always go back and roll around in it, mark . He turned this into an oops moment after the fact by saying what he said yesterday morning. You know, her crime was she had a weight problem. An eating problem. That was her crime. To be so ungracious compared to what we want in our leaders, i just think its going to be something theyll bring up over and over again and he is just going to ignore it . Ever say that was a mistake . If he just said i said that 20 years ago. That was a stupid thing to say. I hope shes doing well. Ive grown up a lot in 20 years. I have my own children now. Theyre grown children. I understand the challenges we all face. Boy, i feel bad about that. Boom. Over. Now the narrative is hers. You have said he bullied you. He called you miss piggy. What else did he call you . What were the names that he called you. Miss piggy, miss housekeeping, miss eating machine. All to your face . Yes. All the time. That was really normal for him in that moment. How did that make you feel . Well, you know, 18 years old, when you are growing up and you are the most beautiful woman in the world, that was horrible for me. Do you think hes racist . Yes. Yes absolutely. Absolutely. Whats the proof that you think hes racist . You know, i listened to a few comments from him when he was my boss, but i dont want to talk about it because its too much rude for the black community, and i respect a lot of things. Not just against latino, you say, blacks, africanamericans as well. Yes. He dont like that people either. Hes trying to make up fractions and now hes in the churches. Hes ridiculous. She said she never recovered from her Miss Universe experience and said she had eating disorders and psychological issues. She gained 12 pounds after being crowned Miss Universe. In a 1997 interview with howard stern, trump claimed she gained over 50 pounds. She told reporters yesterday she hoped her bad experience with donald trump will open eyes in this election. Dean tweeted notice trump sniffing all the time . Coke user. Here he is speaking yesterday with msnbcs kate snow. Im suggesting we think about
it. So he sniffs during the presentation which is something that users do. He also has delusions. Im not talking about being cra crazy, but when he told everyone he was smart and not to pay taxes and denied he said it, its not that hes delusionary about it, its that he thinks hes not going to get caught. That is delusional. He has trouble with pressured speech. He interrupted Hillary Clinton 29 times. He couldnt keep himself together. Do i think at 70 years old he has a cocaine habit . Probably not. Interesting to ask him to see if he ever had a problem with that. What in the world . Mark halperin, what in the world is going on there . We know howard. We like howard. What is going on . A doctor diagnosing a coke
problem because a guy was sniffing . I couldnt believe the tweet. I thought he had been hacked. My poor 8yearold son im going to have to do drug tests now because he gets the flu once a month. Are my kids doing lines like on the way to tball . Stop it. How stupid is this . I think an apology is in order. Its not necessary. Ill just say if a trump surrogate said Something Like that we would go crazy. A trump surrogate would get killed. By the way, they did. The guy in New Hampshire. The one that said she should be, like, killed. Should have been slaughtered. Hes their surrogate. They should be asked if thats appropriate. He should take it back. Two days after a debate and were talking about the size of a woman, whether or not racial stereotyping and governor dean is a friend. I have a cold. I dont want to sniffle for what people to think and for him to double down, if this was said about secretary clinton, we would be lighting this person up and urging the campaign to denounce these words. They need to denounce dr. Deans words. Hes a medical doctor. Hes our friend. Hes a doctor. And hes going around diagnosing a coke problem on tv because a guy has the flu or is rundown and look at what the clinton people did when people started speculating about why she passed out the way she did. They freaked out. Conspiracy theorist this and that. They need to distance themselves from these comments. I got to sniff. We wont accuse you of anything. Lets get one more very big headline in here. Breaking news overnight. Former israeli president and Prime Minister shimon perez has died. He was 93 years old. Perez was best known for his efforts to make peace between israelis and palestinians. In a statement, president obama said per erz changed the course of Human History and in a joint history, bill and Hillary Clinton called peres a genius with a huge heart. He was seen at the end as a man of peace fighting hard to actually bring peace to that
troubled region and yet the beginning of his relationship with israel was bringing up israels defense to stop against aggressive neighbors who never wanted israel to have the right to exist peacefully in the middle east in their own nation. The arc of shimon peres career is extraordinary from its origins to its end. And president obamas statement about the passing of shimon peres is truly extraordinary in itself. The outline of peres role in the history of israel, a healing person in an extraordinary combustible area. Joe to your point about leaders elevating people. God bless him and his soul and
his family. Not only his people but people all around him. A story in the New York Times, nbc also reporting on this that the wife of a man killed by police in charlotte sought a protective order against him. We saw of course a gripping video over the weekend. She sought a protective order after he punched her 8yearold son in the head three times, kicked around and threatened to kill us with a gun. He said i am a killer, and you should know that. Were going to get to that in the next block. Full report on that in the next block. Well also bring in robert costa and the New York Times columnist frank brunei. But first, heres bill karins with a check on the forecast. Dreary, soggy forecast. Washington, d. C. Had a dry
summer. About to change. Its poori ipouring from d. C. T charlotte. 9 Million People under flash flood watches including washington d. C. This bulls eye of 5 to 7 inches of rain is baltimore and d. C. Down almost to richmond. Thats going to be really today, tomorrow, into friday morning. And the forecast i mentioned changed. Areas in the northeast that were gorgeous like boston to new york, the clouds have moved in. Theyll be with us for four to five days in a row with temperatures in the 60s. Cooler but sunshine there in areas of the middle of the country. Other major weather story thats developing over the next five to ten days is going to be this tropical disturbance which will be Tropical Storm matthew later on today. All computers are bullish on how intense this will get in the next couple days. This is the fiveday formation zone so in about five days from now take us into sunday areas around jamaica will be at risk and areas around eastern cuba. As we get to the hurricane season, we havent had a lot of threats like this. This takes this dangerously close to the bahamas and possibly florida in seven days from now. That will be a major story. Well know in about a week. Also again, bad weather coming to the northeast. Going to cause a lot of people to get sniffles, a cold, just like harold. A lot of coke freaks sniffin