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MSNBCW Morning Joe August 7, 2017

Million jobs. The Unemployment Rate is at a 16year low and Consumer Confidence is at a 16year high, all while the dow jones continues to break records. President trump has clearly steered the economy back in the right direction. On wednesday, the president introduced the r. A. I. S. E. Act. For decades a steady rise in immigration has depressed the wages of American Workers. The r. A. I. S. E. Act will increase wages, decrease poverty and save the taxpayers billions. Americans deserve a raise and President Trump is finally putting the American Worker first. Thank you for joining us everybody. Im kayly mceneney and that is the real news. Boom i like that music. I think we should have that music for three hours in the background. Its pretty, kind of keeps you driving, like when im playing risk, theyve got that music pushing all the time. That was the news of the week as posted on the president s own facebook page. Former ambassador to russia micah mcfaul wow, feels like so many state owned channels ive watched in other countries. Ambassador mcfaul later this morning. With us the host of msnbcs dead lin to White House Former Communications Director for president george w. Bush nicole wallace, Political Writer for New York Times nick contossori and noah rothman and nbc news capital news correspondent, kasie hunt. Mika brzezinski trying to get reaction on the jobs report, if you want to know the reaction from kids on the street, you go to the south of france. But that was though, nicole and im curious what you think about this, this was like the story that mika was the most interested in about this weekend because she believes that it lends to something else. Me being the politician okay, yeah, control the news, get out there, et cetera, et cetera, and i remember bill clinton running 30second ads from 1994 to 1996, and he just, he tried to control the air waves that way, but mika, and a lot of other people really upsbet this staterun tv approach. Whats your take . My take is that hes given up. He spent the entire duration of the campaign engaging you and mika, engaging all the media. He used to say to his aides why should i stay off the air waves . Its free media and hes given up. He understands the free media is going to ask difficult questions and press until they get to the truth and hes thrown up his hands and i think he sees sort of his comportment in office doesnt withstand the sorts of media he relied on touring tdur campaign. To me this is a string of defeats for him. Hes given up on the free media and making his own media. Noah rothman, conserves and the media complained that barack obama especially during his campaigns in 2008 and 2012 avoided the typical interviews, and got his message out, and i think he got his message out really well, using the internet, using facebook, using other things. Is this really that different than what president obamas team i think in a smart way started back in 2008 . Its a little different because its branding itself as a news outlet and not a voice for donald trump explicitly. At the same time i have seen some people on, prominent people on twitter saying this is indistinct from staterun news. It kind of is. You have donald trump branded splash behind them and it on facebook. You really have to want to be fooled if you watch this for news. Its the message from the white house, and pretty well branded as that. Its not quite between two ferns. Theyre creating something from scratch, and trying to get to their audience specifically, not to reach a new audience. Yeah, nick, if it says do donaldtrump. Com in the background dont you know the source . For me fake news would be calling it nbct or Something Like that, and making it look like another network and trying to fool people into believing. Here it says donaldonaldtrump. C. You know what youre getting. Its the trumpets in the background music. Great music. Brr do do i think what were seeing its august g, go ahead. More and more what were seeing out of the past white house take more advantage of the channels of communication. The Obama White House had their flickr page for their own white house photos, the president ial address, they would give the talks of the president to the Regional News outlets so theres always an effort to go around attritional gatekeepers. I think probably that video you just broadcast is the most viewers its had since it was broadcast. Yes, exactly, but i will tell you i do think steve rattner, this is a sign of things to come. I think youll see a lot of politicians, a lot of president s in the future really trying to do everything they can to go around the mainstream media, and again i dont think we should we will be very critical of donald trump over the next three hours but i mean, this is when i see staterun tv all im looking at is what politicians are going to be doing for the next 50 years. Again, anything they can do to get around the mainstream media, and obama did it, bush would have done it, reagan did it by doing a lot of local ads. It seems to me its just changing the format. Sure. And look, fdr did fireside chats. I dont think i have any problem with the president trying to communicate directly to the American People as long as its labelled appropriately and cleared what the sources. What i have a problem with and i suspect everybody will, is that obama sorry, President Trump had literally one press Conference Since he took office and no other president , i think obama had Something Like eight during the same period. Every other president going back in history has had multiple press conferences where they took questions directly from the press as opposed to trying to communicate directly. I dont mind them communicating directly but the guy has to stand up and face the press by himself and take the tough questions and answer them. So were going to be going to the war against bob mueller and the Justice Department in a minute, but i want to first of all, noah rothman go quickly over the list donald trump tweeted out last night. First of all i think we need to say i dont know whether it was the president and his new chief of staff talking twitter strategy or communications strategy, but this was a pretty reserved weekend, one of the things he did put out last night he talked about the fake news, and he talked about his successes, and he talked about the Supreme Court, isis, the economy, jobs, here we go. Supreme court, surging economy, jobs, border and military security, isis, and ms13, et cetera. Obviously not a lot of legislation, but looking at that list, conservatives that voted for donald trump, trumpists that voted for donald trump that look at that list, certainly the Supreme Court for them a huge success. Isis we do seem to be making very Good Progress against isis. What about those other items . Well, i think you do have to give him some credit for the border because border traffic is down, and i think it has quite a lot to do with the fact that we have a president who is using rhetorical tools to instill some sort of fear in those who would otherwise make a perilous journey across the border. We dont have a lot of legislation to point to saying Border Security is up as a result of congressional action. They appropriated very little for what is supposed to be the border wall. Its just going to reinforce existing infrastructure. All we have to say is why is border traffic down . Because the president has been a little harsher when it comes to enumerating what the penalties will be for individuals who make those trips, and impressing on i. C. E. And other Law Enforcement agencies to enforce the law. There is a case to be made for the president and nobody else is really making it for him so i dont fault hip there. As for military security im not entirely sure what that means but there has been some action on the ground as far as trucating isis territory. These are things he can and should take credit for. Rattner, the numbers as far as illegal immigration were going down for some time, and theyre going to continue to go down because the mexican economy is doing better than its done in quite some time. That saidborder crossings continue to decline, the trend that started under barack obama, he certainly will take credit for that, wont he, and most of his supporters will cheer him for it. Actually, there are more, and even before trump took office, there have been in recent years more mexicans leaving the country than coming into the country for the reason you say. Right. Jobs there were more plentiful than they were here, but i certainly agree with noah, i think he has had an impact on the border. Some of it is rhetorical. Would you want to go to a country where the president basically says we dont want you here and were going to do everything we can to send you back. The trends were in place before he took office. It may just accelerate it. Lets move from this to whats been going on this weekend, there have been just a couple things that just drive me absolutely crazy when i see Newt Gingrich tweeting things out saying donald trump gets 60 in West Virginia and 5 in washington, d. C. Guess where they put the special pro prosecutor . Thats one of the dumbest things and newt knows it. He knows thats stupid. If he commits crimes or his associates commit crimes in West Virginia or do things that the special prosecutor for some reason believe may be crimes in West Virginia, then theyll impanel a grand jury in West Virginia. This is not really that hard and newt knows better and trump knows better and his lawyers know better. Why would they its just, its just so insulting. It amounts to character assassination against bob mueller, stunning strategy. Special counsel bob muellers Investigation Continues to cross new boundaries as trump allies continue their war on the department of justice suggesting the former fbi director is stacking the deck. White house ally Newt Gingrich tweeted requests. Trump got 68. 6 in West Virginia, 4. 8 in washington, d. C. Guess where mueller has a grand jury in guess how biased it will be. Another attack on muellers credibility comes within the white house itself. You have to listen to his special counsel ty cobb who works in the white house and said clearly, george, this week we will continue to cooperate with bob mueller and his investigation even though he just hired the 16th person, many of them are democratic donors but well continue to cooperate and comply. Reports the investigation is using grand juries in virginia and washington have led some to ask whether the scope has broadened. Yesterday Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein said he and mueller would evalue wait any potential crime the special counsel uncovers it is subject to the rules and regulations of the department of justice and we dont engage in phishing expeditions. In the course of his investigation of the issues that he is looking at, if he finds evidence of a crime, can he look at that . Well, chris f , if he finds evidence of a crime what director mueller and i agreed is inside the scope he can. If its outside the scope he has to look to permission from me to expand the investigation. This comes weeks after President Trumps attacks on the leadership with him offering attorney general sessions for the leaks. After many years of leaks going on in washington it is great to see the ag taking action. For National Security the tougher the better. Joe . Nicole, im curious, lets start with the attorney general Jeff Sessions after you had john kelly come in. Thats one of the first things that he apparently made a phone call to Jeff Sessions and said hey, your job is safe. Obviously he wouldnt have made that phone call without talking to the president first. You have the president now tweeting that out. Thats one less war donald trump is fighting not only with his own attorney general but also with the base, but i also, i just think its interesting also that there were some people suggesting that if its outside the scope of russia collusion, he cant look at it. Nicole, that goes to all of his financial dealings. That goes i mean theres not one person that doesnt think this starts with Money Laundering from russia. I mean that thinks that not that it may be there, but that would be the first place any prosecutor would look. People are talking about going back to the 1990s in Atlantic City and Money Laundering starting there. So its not like theyre going to be able to just lift one little rock and put it down. This is going to be expansive because you have to look into his financial dealings to see what Vladimir Putin has on donald trump. Right, and he ran as a businessman. He takes every opportunity to tell us that hes a businessman, so if you run as a businessman and youre being credentials youre a businessman, someone investigating whether as president you may or may not have included or coordinated with russia is going to have to examine your Business Records and your life as a businessman. Kellyanne conway again just doing the inexplicable, saying the inexplicable saying things kasie hunt that make my teeth hurt when shes so stupid that they make my teeth hurt, not her but the words that come out of her mouth when shes spinning talking about how bob mueller is given to democrats. Take all of bob muellers entire team, and they havent given as much money to democrats as donald trump and his former Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci, who he hired while making the complaints. Theyve supported obama. Theyve supported clinton. Theyve supported schumer. Theyve supported the dnc, paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. Bob mueller hasnt paid that much. That makes no sense. Im wondering these arguments on the hill have, against Robert Mueller and the investigation hasnt really gained any traction with republicans thus far, and it seems to me that this past weekend and over the past week theyre just digging in even more, arent they in. I think thats right, joe. This is one area where republicans have actually had a pretty stiff backbone against the president. Some of them havent necessarily been willing to say it very aggressively in front of tv cameras but their actions underscore it and there are many who have gone out and said look, the best possible outcome for this president is to have bob mueller actually do his investigation, do his job, and the action that theyre taking, the senate is coming in and out of session over the course of the next few weeks specifically to prevent the president from making a recess appointment that would allow had to immake changes at the Justice Department to get rid of mueller. Republicans are backing off from the idea theyre the ones that are directing that, saying democrats are the ones, thats kind of true, but the reality is republicans started this tradition of doing things this way. They set a schedule very early on in the year of republicans who are going to be coming in and doing these sessions, so i think that they are putting a pretty firm line in the sand here on mueller. I think so. So many things, so many parts of our system have actually worked out well. I was talking to mika yesterday, telegramming her, because thats the only way she gets communications in the south of france, and we were talking about how the system has worked. Its incredible how the checks and balances directly and indirectly have just, you know, theres been a stress test against over the last six months and its held. Well, then we stumbled across this Charles Krauthammer oped and writes this of the Anthony Scaramucci chapter the guardrails hold. At five separate juncture the sinews of our democracy have held against the careening recklessness of this presidency. Consequently Donald Trumps worst week proved a particularly fine hour for american democracy. One, the military says no to the trump transgender ban. Two, the senate saves sessions. Three, Senate Republicans reject the obamacare repeal. Four the boy scouts protest. Five, the Police Chiefs chide. Trump is a systemic stress test. The results thus far are good, and steve rattner, he went more specifically into all five of those and its fascinating the way he described it but he is right and it seems that the republicans are, certainly some of the republicans are standing up now and being guardrails themselves saying no, youre not going to fire Robert Mueller. He is right, and of course tom tillerson and chris coons are leading the effort to make sure he dioesnt fire robert mue per aepts a sad commentary on the state of our country the best we can say is a president who is out of control couldnt pass the guardrails. I actually think its a great thing. I think this has been a stress test as far as the First Six Months and i think its a time for us to reexamine what weve become as a country, but to understand that the system thus far has worked, and i wish we didnt have to have that stress test but w

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