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MSNBCW Morning Joe November 16, 2017

Japanese manufacturers, toyota and mazda, in china, we also announced 250 billion if trade investment deals that will create jobs in the United States. A second time . No. Whats worse is that wasnt even trump water. Did you see that . Oh. It wasnt trump water. Clearly parched president touts success in asia, so far no payoff on his promise for a big announcement and didnt he like mock marco rubio . He just did, yeah. Well break down yesterdays nonevent with chris hill on the International Policy side of things and take a look at that water moment. That was so awkward on so many levels. Plus, new accusers come forward against roy moore while the white house still wont say whether the Senate Candidate should step aside and where is their advocate for women in the white house . Where is he or she . I thought there was one. Didnt you . Im so confused. Where are women in the white house on this . Well go live to alabama on the latest in this story. And the republicans struggle to sell their tax plan and a key republican senator announced his opposition to the bill. All while the treasury signature and his wife posts this picture among many others, leather gloves, leather outfit 1 bills, well done hair. She looks great, too. Good morning, everyone, its thursday, november 16th. What is going on . Was that the treasury signature and his wife at the mint and i think it looked like a bicker moment for her. She must like money a lot. I understand she loves diamonds and i guess she loves 1 bills as well. At some point you need to be embarrassed of yourself for being this shallow. I just, i cant even. Maybe it was a joke and im missing the joke. I could be the only one. No one here is laughing. Whats going on . Whats the deal with leather opera gloves . Maybe because money is dirty at times with some of these people and she shouldnt be touching it. Joe is an assignment. Things will go off the rails at three minutes past the hour. We have the former Communications Director for ted cruzs campaign and political contributor rick tyler. New york times reporter jeremy peters, Msnbcs Steve Kornacki and White House Reporter for usa today heidi pryzbilla and from world news america catty kay. Lets gen with the latest allegations against Senate Candidate roy more the Alabama Republican Party met last night. You would think this would be the moment. But they did not take up the issue. In fact, it never left the conversation phase. Then sean hannity who gave moore 24 hours to explain himself before pulling his support back down after moore wrote the fox news host an open letter. Meanwhile, allegations against the Alabama Senate roy moore continue to mount. Two more women, tina johnson said she was 28yearsold when moore groped her in his office. Kelly harrison says she was 17yearsold when she turned down an overciao you are in 1982 trigonometry. A few later she says she asked again he asked again, she relented. After going to a movie with him finally, she tells the Washington Post they were in his car chatting. Quote, i just explained to him that my dads a minister, and you know, i just cant sneak around, thats wrong. Nbc news hats not independently verified these allegations and moore denied past allegations of Sexual Misconduct. The Moore Campaign has called claims politically motivated. It is fighting back with allegations of the only woman to accuse him of Sexual Assault. Focusing on the story involving his alleged signature and the 1977 High School Year book. The allegations that have come out, i hope you understand, it takes time to work through this, we dont have a 20 million budget as a campaign. It takes time. We want to be correct. We demand that you immediately release the year book to a neutral custodian so that our expert, you can send your expert as well few like to, so our expert can look at it. Not a copy on the internet the actual document so we can see the lettering, the inning on the page, the indentations and we can see how old is that inning . Is it 40yearsold or a week old. Release the year book so we can determine is it genuine or is it a fraud . My god. So, thats the attorney for roy moore talking about the 60 in the year back that we discussed over the last couple of days. But the specific defense and the broad defense of judge moore comes in that Washington Post article about gina richardson, a High School Student working at seriess, saying judge moore hit on her, she refused to give him her phone number. He called her school and called her out of clachlts they say, if you are a liberal and hate judge more, they hate you. They say the only reason and motive for anybody to come out and make them public now is to destroy his campaign. They say its a political farce. Hes down in the polls. The latest poll has him down ten, 12 points. Is he done, he going to survive it. How do you read it . They are watching the polls close in alabama. What else would explain why its taken so long for the state party to do what the National Party is doing umm here in washington, which is saying that this man has no place here in the senate. Look. This is not just one woman whos come forward, one independent story, what were seeing now is a similar pattern to what we saw if previous instances, like with harvey weinstein, bill cosby, one woman comes forward. It gives women the courage to come forward. It starts to paint a narrative where you have not just the women but the entire community in this case where you had people saying he was showing up at the mall and theyre flagging him. So i think at some point the leadership there in alabama, the governor, they are paying attention to these polls and they are the only ones who have the power. Not the National Party, to call another election. I think within it becomes clear to them that the results of this, of not taking some type of action would, by default, mean that the democrat wins, because even here, you are splitting the ticket and even if you disregard these polls, the democrat would still have a better chance of winning. And the Moore Campaign is asking the public and voters and everyone to disbelieve a growing list of accusers now, as you say, its like bill cosby or harvey weinstein, we see, how many women will you believe this has happened . Two, five, ten, 50, 100 as it did for some of these guys . As for the impact, nbc news obtained a new poll from the National Republican Senatorial Committee that shows support plummeting. The numbers show Democrat Doug Jones with a 12point lead over roy moore. Moore was leading by nine points before the allegations, thats a 21point swing, moore is tanking down 16 points since these allegations were made public. The nrsc is not sharing the entire poll or the name of the firm that conducted it. Its hard to know. The committees chairman cory gardner has already called on moore to be expelled from the race should he win the december 12th special election. Last night, moore tweeted to Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell who has called for him to quote bring it on. Meanwhile, President Trump still has not addressed the moore situation. Senator lindsay frame says hes the head of the party, quote, it will probably be good if he said something. So yesterday, he did not. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, all. So the comment previously from Sarah Sanders intoospeakin the president was if all these things were proven to be true, he should get out of the race. There was a pre face, we dont believe accusers, without everyday, we dont believe them with fact. What is this doing to the party right now . What are the longterm impacts to the party, if judge moore is, in fact, elected, which hes slipping in the polls, if he becomes a member of the United States senate, what does that mean . Its a branding issue. Because everybody in 2018 will say they elected a child molester. It will be the party that didnt elect the rape guy but decided for the sexual perv that goes after children guy. I think its worth repeating. The Republican Party had a moment last year during the president ial primary when the access Hollywood Tape came out. They had a chance to make a moral decision about the president. This is why. Here we are. Roy moore is in the exact same position as donald trump was. He doesnt, he wont say anything about it because he doesnt have the moral standing to say anything about it. He know shes vulnerable this and we will be talking about his accusers. Its a part of a trend we are seeing seeping inside the white house, judicial nominees and peel running for office, people unfit and morally, completely off balance. I mean there is nobody around the president in the inner circle who had some point totally unequipped for the job or morally impacted. Have taken a strange oath. This is really frightening and a trend that could last for years, especially if this guy is elected. You are covering jeremy peters, the bannon angle. What is his role in this . He is not backing down, contrary to a couple reports that suggested he was somehow softening his support for roy moore. That is not the case i am told very reliably. Look. Its in Steve Bannons interest that roy moore wins. Then its more likely that Mitch Mcconnell and Senate Republicans move to expel him. That will give bannon and these conservative insurgents the civil war within the gop that they are hoping for. If they have that, there is a move to expel a duly elected senator, then the debate shifts and it becomes less about defending somebody who is accused of sexually predator behavior and overturning the will of the people. This is something that even reasonable middle moderate of the roads conservatives are concerned about. You saw Susan Collins say that she doesnt think expulsion should be considered at all there think of the argument reported by jeremy steve bannon is making, its worth it for him to continue to support now accused time and time and time again of preying on teenage girls as a 30, 32yearold man to create a civil war in the party. What cost, at what price to you get your civil war . Well, its a civil war thats already been raging. I think as rick said in a lot of ways you got roy moore leaning on voters 13 months ago had the access Hollywood Tape, that came on women stepping forward and alleging misconduct on Donald Trumps part and the donald trump and folks around him saying dont believe it. The Republican Voters down there and across the country, 46andahalf , 46. 1 apparently didnt think it was worth turning on trump in the election. I would put a caution about this poll that shows moore falling 12 points behind. I think its a huge grain of salt. There are a lot of polls out there it comes from a group with vested interest, trying to drop him out of the race t. Other polls i see roy moore still ahead in the race. Its a state where a democrat hasnt come within 20 points since 2002 and so i look at the average of the polls. They still say roy moore is leading. I think its possible he loses. I think its possible he collapses. I would not look at this poll out there right now. When has the Senatorial Committee put out a poll so dramatically against their own candidate, amazing. Roy moore, his daughter did address it, although it took a while to get a statement out of her, about a week, i believes of attempted tries by multiple outlets. She stopped short, well short of calling him to step aside. Nearly a week after the story broke, avan ka trump tells the Associated Press quote. So ivanka was one point positioned as a womens voice, almost a year ago today, ivanka trump says she will still fight for womens issues. I met with her a few times before and after President Trump won the election and she wanted to make her spire platform about womens issues. She was going to be the advocate for women in the white house. I met with her, even though i was not happy about trump winning. I thought id like to make sure, do whatever i can just as much as i contributed in the Obama Administration to speaking out about equal pay and other things. I met with ivanka, even brought someone to her that i thought it would be helpful on womens issues, she hired her and this is what weve got. Shes traveling around the world, catty kay, modeling her fashion designs and talking weekly about tax reform which you would think there would be other experts in the white house that could work on that policy so she can work on womens advocacy, Sexual Harassment and people like her father and others incredibly insulting to women, what has happened . She was supposed to be the voice for women. What is her position exactly . I would say shes had one big achievement recently on womens issue, thats expanding the Child Tax Credit for 1,000 to 2,000 for the next ten years, shes advocating that was something she spoke to republicans about, having dinners in washington. But few look on the counterside the fact that it took so long for this statement to come out and she calls on roy moore to step down, thats pretty poor when it comes to defense of women and children, that we are talking about. She has not been a strong advocate in order to oppose some of the things this administration have done, which have rolled back womens rights, not just here in the United States but around the world. One of the first things the president did was to cut off American Funding for ngos, nonprofits, advise women on abortion. They have rolled back provisions that would help us determine whether we were getting equal pay. She has not managed to stop that. She gave a mealy mouthed defense why that has gone ahead. You can count the ledger of the things she has failed to stop this white house from doing that set back womens process. Its quite a bit longer than the one thing she is saying at the moment she managed to achieve. Although that tax cut would be good for middle class families. Well jump back at it later. Lets dive down to montgomery, alabama. We find vaughan hillier. He has been covering the moore race down there. Whats the latest there, the reaction to the latest accusations. We talked ability some of it from the Moore Campaign and the position theyre if right now. Reporter exactly. Roy moore has no Public Events on the schedule we are aware of. We did track him down last night in auburn, alabama at a private fundraiser, to take note, he is currently being outspent on television and radio air waves in alabama by an 111 margin by doug jones. This is feeling like a senate race, a campaign to delegitimize these women, these accusers and legitimize the decency that is roy moore. This is a candidate who has called the women in the media part of this quote forces office evil. He is two nights ago, he told a roomful of yoourkts they expect to be persecuted in his own life. I had a conversation with jerry moore, he compared him to jesus christ t. Fact that the campaign is trying to legitimize roy moore and us in this world campaign. Yesterday the attorney there that you saw earlier talking about the yearbook, he said he has been in the presence of roy moore, more than 10,000 ladies over the course of his life and has never seen such actions. There was a press release late last night in which they had the testament of 12 different women who claim to know roy moore. One of those was kayla moore, the wife of roy moore. The other i want to read you is a woman of a native of gasden. Quote, i worked at the barbque for ten years in my 20s. Mr. Moore and his wife were nothing but friendly and respectful. Lastly, the ought attorney for roy moore appeared on a show on msnbc yesterday and gave an interesting testament as to a trend to i guess, well pla i the sound and programs you guys can make better sense of it. Why would he need permission from any of these girls mothers if they werent underage . Sure. Thats a good question. Culturally speaking, im going say differences looked up the background there, while thats awesome you have got such a diverse background, its cool to read through that. What do obvious backgrounds have to do with dating a 14yearold . Im not finished with the context of it. Please answer, what is ellys background have to do with dating children 14yearold girls. Sure. And in other countries, there is arrangement through parents for what we would refer to as central marriage. Elly is from canada. I understand it. She has spent time in other countries. So have i. Its not a bad thing. Reporter what the what . Reporter an attorney for roy moore. Go ahead. Reporter i was going to tell you that was the attorney for roy poor. Yeah, thanks. I got i. I got it. I could have guessed. I mean, what the i dont even know what to say about that. I want to know which country has the cultural norm of asking the mother for permission, i dont know of this culture, what was he trying to think of the implication, he looked at the way she looks and said. He looked up the background, knowing she is canadian. You provincialbably i assume connections to places where children are dated by adults. That was one bigoted part of it. The other part is his defense was dating teenagers, he got lost in that thing. As depressing as it is, willie, as soon as this story broke, i started hearing similar defenses from people in alabama politics supp

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