On the set we have National Affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc, Jon Heilemann stand beside her and guide her they could give him a prompter. Politics analyst for the daily beast. And the former aide to george w. Bush white house and state department, elise jordan is with us. New poll numbers from nbc news Melania Trump makes an appearance after a long absence. And the president has some interesting tweets about that. Interesting would be he was horrified that the thought that people were wondering. Joe scarbrough had an interesting repast. I liked it. It was brassy. Jon heilemann, it was shocking. Donald trump is correct. I mean john, who in the world would be so cruel, so hateful, who would be so despicable, who would be so utterly lacking in character, to suggest, to to make something up about someone having a facelift for the sole purposes of trying to damage or humiliate them. I know that i mean its nice to finally be able to agree with the president , this guy that ive known for over ten, 11, 12 years, hes in the white house, i finally, he says something i agree with yes, you would have to be utterly despicable, a classless man, to say that about a woman. Total scumbag. You have to be grotesque. Repulsive, disgraceful, ridiculous, asinine person in the world. Just a petty, low form of human life. But heres the thing. Joe, i just like to ask you this question beyond, i mean its the obvious hypocrisy of it, given the history to which were all alluding in an optically veiled way. Its amazing because i dont know that anybody in any respectable publication or anyone of note on twitter actually suggested that. They didnt. About Melania Trump. So this is not just its not just hypocritical. But it also falls into the evergrowing category that ill refer to henceforth as animals of trumpian rejection. What would be wrong with that . Whats wrong with that . Willie, it is, it is i dont understand why would donald trump, why would the first thing donald trump think of, the first bell he would ring, be that anybody in his family would be missing because of Plastic Surgery . Nobody suggested that. Nobody, as Jon Heilemann said, i never read it. I didnt even know that anybody thought that until donald trump suggested that hateful despicable human beings were being, being unfair to the first lady by suggesting that, that she had Plastic Surgery. Because certainly i read, i never read anybody suggesting that thats why she was absent. I should recuse myself, because ive had extensive work done from top to bottom. I go in every summer and have a full makeover done. I saw willie in the hall the other day, he was bleeding. Badly. Badly. There was bizarre focus on the whereabouts of Melania Trump. But i didnt see any mainstream outlet suggesting she was missing because of Plastic Surgery. You might have seen a twitter user or somebody at a dinner party suggesting that. But for trump to repeat the conspiracies in his tweet was a bizarre way to correct it. It was all very delicious and it also points to what he reads. He must read a lot of gutter stuff in twitter. Also ahead, we do have a lot to get to. Far more important than this. But that was rich. Trump blaming the wrong country for burning down the white house. During the war of 1812. Vice president he doesnt know the words to God Bless America but he does know his history. But wait, theres more. Again about the God Bless America thing, were not even talking about, when you get to the heart of God Bless America. Like willie, he starts stumbling on land that i love. Its like hes at belmont this weekend its not that he fails in the stretch, the gate opens and the horse just lies down. God bless america hes stumbling in land that i love. As far as the candidate thing goes, donald trump is a south park character come to life. The famous south park song blame canada. Hes, and there are actually some conservatives saying well you know that canada was actually a part of the British Empire at the time and they bragged about burning down the british, the british burned down. But that shows you just how stupid some of trumpists defenders are. That theyre actually striking out for anybody bringing up the fact that Great Britain, yes, Great Britain burned down the white house. And you cant defend donald trump. One guy quoted a smithsonian article that had in the body of it, that Great Britain burned down the white house. Well canada wasnt a nation until 50 years later. I think its important to point out, it was a british colony as you rightly say. The thing about the words, not to get mired in his not knowing the words to God Bless America. But the fact that he arranged that event, expressly for the purpose of celebrating that song and patriotism. And using the United States army band and Everything Else. To make a point about patriotism, and he didnt know the words. We will sing songs of patriotism. And didnt know the words. Its painful. For all of those for those saying donald trump was right, canada burned down the white house. Thats like saying yes, new mexico scaled the cliffs of n m normandy. They were a part of it. You talk about donald trump not reading, though. Im serious. Were going to get to what Rudy Giuliani said and the ignorance of the things that Rudy Giuliani has said. And that just, the otherworpdlyness of the things that Rudy Giuliani has said. We have a president of the United States that is not only insulted our closest ally, canada, but also gets on the phone and doesnt even know u. S. History about canada, saying well didnt you guys burn down the white house . Joe, its something thats so disturbing about the canada reference is now hes been living in the white house for a couple of years. And one of the most famous stories that you always hear is the picture that Dolly Madison saved of George Washington during the war of 1812, you would think that by osmosis and living in the white house he would pick up a lot of this basic information. But hes not even picking up the history and it makes you wonder what hes not picking up about the wars that were involved in around the world. Hes not interested. Every kid thats gone to the white house is basically heard it. I mean yes, britain burned down the white house, but Dolly Madison cut out the picture of washington, rolled it up and passed it out. That was like our big win. It was a bad night for us, we were like the cavs against golden state in that war. The only, the only heroic story we had was Dolly Madison was able to cut out the picture and put it through the window and boy, we sure did show the brits. Of course, they burned the white house down to the ground. But we got the picture out of it. Youre exactly right ifforry schoolchild that ever walks through the white house, how is donald trump so oblivious . Think about all the sink f t synchofants who suck up to trump. The guy doesnt know history, he cant get the words to the song. Our next story that were teasing, just teasing. Our lead is about Rudy Giuliani. But were teasing Vice President mike pence who cannot help himself. He loves what donald trump does with water bottles. So when donald trump puts his water bottle on the floor. He will do that. Too. Oh, my god. This is where were at, yall. Also ahead, epa chief scott pruitt, joe, loves chickfila, i call it chickafill, i love it. He loves it. I would like a franchise, too. I dont know why i call it that. Anyway, thats a tease it took ten minutes to get to the stories were going to get to. But first get to our lead, it just is mindboggling. Mika, while this is going so well and everybody is talking, let me jump in to say i guarantee you today mike pennsylvania will come out today and he will, he will also say that it was canada and not Great Britain that burned down the white house and he will find articles like some trumpists last night of course articles saying yes, the canadians always said it was in retribution for the burning of toronto. Well actually, no. Even in those same articles, its Great Britain burned down the white house. But expect a History Lesson from mike pence today. If they could just get him the words to the song. But we begin this morning with the president s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. Its a train wreck on fire. Saying a lot while overseas in israel. Were less than a week away from President Trumps historic summit with north Koreas Kim Jong un and yesterday we got new comments about the summit from rudy. Well somehow north korea after he canceled the summit, because they insulted the Vice President , they insulted the, his National Security adviser. And also said they were going to go to nuclear war against us. They were going to defeat us in a nuclear war. We said well were not going to have a summit under those circumstances. Well kim jong un got back on his hands and knees and begged us for it. Which is exactly the position you want him in. Jon heilemann, this is a man who wanted to be secretary of state. Here we have the real secretary of state and the director of the c. I. A. And the secretary of defense and everybody sitting around their tables trying to figure out how they develop a framework to begin talks to denuclearize the most dangerous country on the planet. And you have Rudy Giuliani insuting their leader, very touchy leader, by the way, who probably put rudy threw a Paper Shredder if rudy were in north korea right now. By shooting his mouth off like that, its not a train wreck that guy is a runaway beer truck. And you know, getting in the way of us trying to stop war on the korean peninsula. He, he does seem in addition to the role that hes taken on as the president s tv lawyer, he does seem, its not the first time in which hes strayed from that. Area. And where hes obviously full bluster and says all kinds of controversial things, hes strayed into the realm of Foreign Policy. This one given the short timeframe we have, the short window to try to get this north korean summit into a place where its either successful or at doesnt do any damage. To have him as a loose cannon abroad, outside his own country, off the reservation, making these kinds of comments, theres too many metaphors, its obviously not helpful. Elise, lets take a step back from this and ask a larger question. Why is Rudy Giuliani talking about the north korean summit . Hes the president s personal attorney. If he wants to talk about Stormy Daniels, he has the right to do that. Why is he commenting on this at all . If youre mike pompeo, what are you saysing to President Trump today about this historic summit . During his brief tenure as the president s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani has felt very empowered to weigh in on all rounds of National Affairs. Remember the, he had said that the kidnapped americans were going to be released. Prematurely. He has made various proclamations about the Iran Nuclear Agreement and about regime change in iran. And so if youre mike pompeo, you dont like this at all, but this is an administration that has no control over the message at all so of course its going to continue to be par for the course to have Rudy Giuliani freelancing and saying whatever he wants. I think what youre trying to say is that Rudy Giuliani is not actually a lawyer. Hes not the president s lawyer, hes the president s bull dog and hes the president s spokesperson and he weighs in on all of these extra topics that have nothing to do with the russia investigation. We reported that he got trump to endorse dan donovan out on staten island. Thats not really the legal purview of a lawyer. People who are ostensibly engaged in diplomacy, like trying to not blow up a Nuclear Summit before it happens, in another case our ambassador to germany, do incredibly undiplomatic things. They think that its fine. They think theres no cost to what they say. But the costs here could be potentially pretty vast. I also found this staggering, we have other things to cover on rudy. But you mentioned stormy. So Rudy Giuliani also criticized Stormy Daniels. Thats the porn star who claims she had an affair with President Trump. He said first lady Melania Trump believes her husband. She believes in her husband, she knows its not true. I dont even think theres a slight suspicion that its true when you excuse me, when you look at Stormy Daniels. I know donald trump and beautiful women, classy women. Women of great substance. Stormy daniels . I respect all human beings, i even respect criminals, i dont respect a porn star the way i respect a woman of substance. A woman what has respect herself as a woman and a person and isnt going to sell her body for sexual exploitation. Stormy, you want to bring your case, let me crossexamine you. Lets do that. Lets do that. You misogynistic fool. Are you kidding me . Just look at Stormy Daniels . Just look at yourself. Are you kidding me . At this, in this moment where we are in history with women, you are going to tell us to just look at her . Are you out of your mind . You know what, thats your only excuse. And i feel really sorry for you. That is the most he was incredibly degrading. On top of the fact that you are hurting the president s case on so many levels, so good on you, keep going, rudy. Im sick about what i just saw. This is how trump talks about women, also. During the campaign when he was accused of various allegations, he, trump would come back and say at rallies, shes not attractive enough. He laughs derisively. Let me tell you something. Stormy daniels could indeed bring down this president , so i hope you all just look at her. Just look at Stormy Daniels. And just look at everything she has to say and just look at all the evidence she just might have. Good job, Rudy Giuliani youve just emboldened Stormy Daniels and potentially any other woman who may have evidence against this president. Im going to bank on the fact, thats the man who just made those comments, thats Rudy Giuliani in israel, waving his napkin at a bunch of women dancing around him. So im going to just look at that and tell you to wait. You just wait for the women who are pissed off at this president for the way they treated them, who may be didnt want to speak out about the way he treated them or what about what happened between them or about perhaps the things that happened between them. While he was married to Melania Trump. You just wait. Because right now, after you said that, Rudy Giuliani, i bet they might want to step forward. I bet they might want to think, you know what, just look at me. Good luck with your case. Mika, thats what happened when donald trump, and donald trump attacked the looks of his accusers, and more accusers came out. I agree with you, i think this is what rudy is encouraging. Shes a mother and shes a woman with a voice. And shes going to use it. I hope she does. Im waiting. Joe. Jon heilemann, you know Michael Avenatti well. Its interesting that donald trump has attacked absolutely everybody, it seems. And in the public. That we know, every major figure, every republican, democrat it seems. That comes across his path. Except Stormy Daniels. And Michael Avenatti, it seems to mow that theres not any question, that theres never been a denial that donald trump had a relationship with Stormy Daniels. And here you have Rudy Giuliani making that case, which donald trump obviously is concerned about. So much more difficult, passing himself off as you know, Donald Trumps lawyer, theres, theres another defamation lawsuit against donald trump. From a guy, from everything i can tell, seems to be one or two guitars short of molly hatchet. Hes not all there. Whoa. Just look at her. You dont need to do much to embolden Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels, theyre pretty heavily emboldened already. But this will fuel their, their aggression. In the legal realm. And as weve all noted, whatever you think about the merits of the Stormy Daniels case or what you think about Michael Avenattis tactics, th