There is never a good outcome to that in a society. That was ben carson yesterday with a little creative input from our producers. In just about an hour from now, President Trump heads to canada to come face to face with the American Allies hes been attacking on twitter. Back here at home, Rudy Giuliani just keeps on talking. And both the secretary of state and the first lady say they have heard enough. Good morning, everyone and welcome to morning joe, its friday june 8th. Along with joe, willie and me we have republican strategist and msnbc political analyst susan del persio, Donnie Deutsch is with us and cofounder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei and host of bbc america, katty kay. While i loved the message, i think its worth repeating, it was also one of those moments where i thought that all just happened, this week. It is the shock, the shocks keep coming. The shocks do keep coming and it is pretty remarkable. I remember when i first started writing for the Washington Post, i asked gene robinson, i said when do you start preparing for this. He said well, used to be that i would come up with an idea a couple of days before and sketch it out. He said, he said as youre probably finding out, so much happens every day. That you literally have to wake up in the morning and write the day of the deadline. And you look at the column this week and you look at all the remarkable claims that were made by the trump white house, all the, constitutional claims that were made by the trump white house. Everything thats happened, happened this week is really, its quite stunning that the president s claim he can kill investigations if he wants to. Rudy giulianis claim that he can kill fbi directors if he wanted to and the president wouldnt be indicted. As long as he was in office, that the president can pardon himself. What i did in the column is, i went back and took every one of those claims. Showed how not only they were unconstitutional, had already been ruled unconstitutional. But also how so many of those claims had been undermined by donald trump and rujs own words. For those that feel a sense of despair, i would only recommend you remember what jon meachum told us is that to go back and to remember our past, to study our past, is to be armed against despair against the present. I still believe Charles Pierce with esquire said we are forever redeemable as country. We have to remember that and keep our heads down and do our jobs. Having said that, lets go onto the next shocking day of news. President trumps attorney, Rudy Giuliani, has been talking a lot this week. Weve been horrified by it. And now some Trump Administration officials and other republicans are pushing back at what he is saying as well. While in israel, giuliani stated that north Koreas Kim Jong un begged on his hands and knees for a summit with President Trump. Well somehow north korea after he cancels the summit, because they insulted the Vice President. They insulted his National Security adviser. And they also said they were going to go to nuclear war against us. They were going to defeat us in a nuclear war. We said, were not going to have a summit under those circumstances. Well kim jong un got back on his hands and knees and begged for it, which is exactly the position you want to put him in. Giuliani later said to nbc news that his statement was a quote metaphor. Heres how secretary of state mike pompeo responded when asked whether giulianis comment could jeopardize negotiations with north korea. Rudy doesnt speak for the administration when it comes to this negotiation and the set of issues. Yeah. No. Also yesterday First Lady Melania Trump pushed back at somewhat against these comments from giuliani on Stormy Daniels. She believes in her husband, she knows its not true. I dont even think theres a slight suspicion that its true when you excuse me, when you look at Stormy Daniels. I know donald trump and look at his three wives, beautiful women, classy women. Women of great substance. Stormy daniels . I respect all human beings, i even have to respect criminals. But im sorry, i dont respect a porn star the way i respect a career woman or a woman of substance or a woman who has Great Respect for herself as a woman. And as a person. And isnt going to sell her body for sexual exploitation. So stormy, you want to bring your case, let me crossexamine you. Yesterday a spokesperson for the first lady said in a statement, i dont believe mrs. Trump has ever discussed her thoughts on anything with mr. Giuliani. Well thats rather broad. That would keep it clear that they want nothing to do with his disgusting misogynistic, foolish statement. Which weve talked about enough, but its worth repeating, that this guy is as bad as it gets when it comes to his views on women and he represents the president. Republican senator hold on, hold it a second. Willie geist, it does bear repeating Rudy Giuliani, look how this guy has improperly inserted himself, not only in the Mueller Investigation, saying things that are constitutionally inaccurate. And only hurt the president s cause, but also he interfered with the work of this president and the National Security adviser and the secretary of state. By saying some stupid comments that again, they had to dissociate themselves with. And hes now inserting himself into his stupid comments, the president s marriage. And the first lady clearly it could not have been more explicit in saying that he doesnt speak for her. That shes never talked to him about quote anything. It bears reminding viewers and i know for those of us who spent a lot of time in new york, it bears reminding viewers, that this is a guy who not only guided new york through 9 11 in an admirable, pretty remarkable way. But also as i wrote in one of my columns, a column that Rudy Giuliani attacked, called me stupid and reminded me much like humiliation, i had never been knighted by the queen of england, said one of the great policy achievements, one of the great governing achievements of the 20th century was the turnaround of new york city by giuliani and bill bratton. Hes not even a shadow of himself now. Yeah, hes not. And, the thing we have to remember is that hes doing this with the explicit or at least tacit endorsement of President Trump. President trump could stop this any time. He could call Rudy Giuliani and say knock it off. He could pull him off tv. He could say Rudy Giuliani doesnt speak for me any more. For all of our criticisms of the Trump Administration and the warranted criticisms, there are serious people trying to do serious things. And mike pompeo was one of them. Hes been at the forefront of setting up this summit. Trying to denuclearize north korea and to have Rudy Giuliani freelancing on a trip in tell a i veev and undercutting all the work that serious people are doing. Its not only bad for President Trump, its bad for the country. As i said, President Trump could stop it. He likes this, he likes that the pot is being stirred. I know you it talked to rudy jed, jonathan. A lot of people have noted and donny can speak to this, too, is that Rudy Giuliani is just happy to be back on the stage. Hes on shows like this, were talking about him. That hes back in the middle of the conversation. Theres a difference between what Rudy Giuliani is supposed to be doing and what hes actually doing. And the argument can be made that his mission, being out there as the president s legal attack dog, the republican face of his defense team is being somewhat effective. The president wanted him to go out there and muddy the waters, undermine the credibility of those investigating donald trump, whether thats james comey or Robert Mueller. That he is out there moving and the goal posts of this investigation, making declarations like oh, the special counsel says this will wrap up by september 1st. Or the interview will be limited in size and scope. Robert mueller hasnt said those things. Giuliani has seized upon that idea, theres a vacuum that he can fill. Hes playing the Public Relations game trying to influence the public and lawmakers about this probe. But he keeps getting himself this trouble with comments like this about the first lady or the north korea negotiations. In our reporting the president to this point is still okay with giuliani being out there. But patience is wearing really thin elsewhere in the west wing. You know, donnie, you know pr, very, very well. If you keep making claims, when youre running gms account, if you said hey, listen, this car is fantastic, not only are you going to get 36 miles to the gallon but you press a button and the car flies, you can fly over traffic. You dont have to worry about the hutch, you can just fly right home and the ceo says thats not really true. And you make about ten different statements like that. This chevy car sarks fantastic car, it can take turns at 45 miles per hour, stays low to the ground and it reverses male pattern baldness. The ceo would have to come out and say well, no, actually you might need to get some rogaine. But this car wont it will like make that turn. But theres some things i mean at some point, donny, you become baghdad bob. At some point people tune you out. At some point you actually start hurting more than helping. Because all of his claims dont scare Robert Mueller. Robert mueller looks at him and says what we say my god, think what this guy used to be. And now hes just a clown. Im not saying that, im sure that muellers team is saying that. But theyve got to be looking at this guy going what has happened to rudy . Hes turned himself into such a clown. Dangerous clown and a pathetic clown and a piggish clown. In the last five days as you hinted, beyond even trump, what has come out of giulianis mouth in five days is a lie about kim jong un, as far as him being on his hands and knees, putting that, you know summit at risk. Basically in the most disgusting, vile way, talking about Stormy Daniels, that she doesnt rate as a woman because she chose a certain way to make a living. How dare you, you pathetic, misogynistic ugly man. And commenting on her looks, i love donald trump and Rudy Giuliani the arbiter of peoples looks. Rudy giuliani is actually difficult to look at and finally his comment that the president can pardon himself. Even if he shoots mueller. Disgusting, reprehensible. The reason the ceo doesnt come down on his mouthpiece is because we know the ceo is the Gold Medalist versus the silver medalist at lying. You talk about advertising and pr. If i was doing ads for count chocula, i would have to go through so much more of an intense process of what i can and cant say, oh, no, you cant say that its got 9 chocolate. If its only got 8 chocolate. Versus on a daily basis, basically other than what people do on shows like this, that giuliani and trump can continue to go out there, with actually no accountability. Its stunning. To your point about mueller, at the end of the day, none of this is going to matter in court and it is going to matter come this november election. Because i do believe, although we see that 40 holding strong, that the American People are going to stand up and thats when the game is going to change. And also lose the senate. I think whats incredibly disturbing and susan, you worked with him, i want to get you and katty in here. Is that if if a company was negotiating a huge merger with another company, and one of the Vice President s or somebody in the company was like trolling the other company, and getting in the way of the negotiations, that person would be fired. The board would step up. Everyone in the company, the ceo would get rid of the person who is creating trouble. Only if the person, the ceo was upset with what that person was saying. Thats the rub here. Is that donald trump is very happy. I think that im actually making the point, though, and i want to hear about where rudy, what has happened to Rudy Giulianis personality. That makes him capable of being so disgusting, and so openly vile and putrid as it pertains to women with a seemingly no care in the world about it. About what hes saying, but also being able to interfere in some of the most critical Foreign Policy issues of our time. And not have President Trumps entire staff of generals, chief of staff, mike pompeo, mattis, bolton, say this guy has to go. We cant do our work. This guy has to go, you need to get off your phone. This guy has to go. What is it that President Trump has the ability to protect stupidity in the white house, to the point where we become an international joke . And literally, the pillars of our country are breaking down, because nobody has any right to say anything to this president. Whats amazing is with everything you highlighted, the thing that probably is upsetting the president from what i hear the most is he got involved in his marriage. That he made the comments about melania. Thats whats really causing a problem within the white house right now. With the president s Melania Trump pushing back at rudy. Saying that she believes her husband. Lets make that clear, we are not sure she believes her husband. Not that we want to know anything about their marriage. And the fact that she made a statement says a lot, because she doesnt come out like that the fact is that the mayor ran the city for eight years, hes been in his own business, he now was he like that . No. No. I mean i would love to see the old rudy as ive said before. I dont recognize this person. What do you make of this change . I think that he is used to calling the shots. He likes being in the spotlight again. And hes not used to answering to somebody else. This is what rudy would do a year ago, five years ago. When he would go out there, he would just speak. Hes not recognizing that how hes representing not only his client, but the United States. He did this overseas, lets not forget that. So he needs to realize that theres more of an accountability process here than hes used to. Thats a big reason why hes starting to get in trouble now. Because hes forgetting that. Hes speaking to the president a lot. He feels like hes in you know the boys club, having fun again. This is actually fun for him. The boys club . Well, it is the boys club. Thats what it is. Katty, there are obviously serious ramifications to what not only the president does, but also what Rudy Giuliani does, today the g7 summit meeting. Theres actually talk and i, im sure a lot of observers would not blame macron and the rest of the leaders there, if they drafted a communique for the g 6 and not the g7. Because for the First Time Since these countries and leaders started getting together, you have one country that is moving in the the opposite direction historically, as the other six. Yeah. You know, the summit this time of year ago was not great. The tensions were there in sicily when they met. But they did manage all seven thoex come up with a joint communique. Speaking to foreign diplomats going into this summit. Theyve never known relations between the worlds biggest liberal democracies be this bad. And there is a very real prospect that the world, these other six members have now decided particularly the europeans, look, weve spent a year and a half trying to figure out how to deal with the United States. We feel weve acquiesced on things, we feel weve tried to play nice with donald trump and time and again weve been rebuffed. We were rebuffed over paris, we were rebuffed over iran, we were rebuffed over the embassy moving to jerusalem and now were getting slapped with trade tariffs, as president macron of france put it clearly yesterday, our soldiers are fighting alongside american soldiers in syria. Fighting alongside american soldiers in iraq. And french and allied soldiers are fighting alongside american soldiers in africa trying to wipe out extremism. Trying to defend democracy against the onslaught of extremism. Wheres the National Security issue . The National Security issue is to keep your allies on board so you can fight threats around the world. Thats the issue of National Security, its not slapping tariffs of 25 on imports of steel and aluminum. You talk about those things, you try to negotiate them. And i think you know we are this summit in quebec is going to be very frosty and think youre starting to see europeans say we have to find a different way to deal with this president. Willie, weve been talking about what would happen if ceos had a spokesperson that said intemperate, insulting things about others. The ceo would call the man and fire him. We dont see that happening with the president of the United States here with Rudy Giuliani. But you know lets take it down to the most basic level and the one thing that i must admit, i dont understand a lot of people who worship donald trump and have children, this is the sort of behavior that we would not even tolerate with children. I would see you know, little league, when were playing baseball. And you know, you hear all the coaches