That i wanted a hearing as soon as possible to clear my name. I demanded a hearing for the very next day. Unfortunately it took the Committee Ten days to get to this hearing. In those ten long daes, my family and my name have been totally and permanently destroyed by vicious and false additional accusations. The tenday delay has been harmful to me and my family, to the Supreme Court, and to the country. It was nearly nine hours of extremely emotional testimony yesterday from dr. Christine bl bl blasey ford and dr. Brett kavanaugh. Willie summed it up this morning, in the absence of new evidence, how do collins, murkowski, flake, et al. Choose between a smart, poised woman claiming adamantly she was assaulted by he Brett Kavanaugh and two a Public Servant unequivocally denying it was him . The committee is scheduled to meet at 9 30 this morning where they are still expected to vote. Welcome to morning joe. It is friday, september 28th. Along with joe, willie and me we have susan delpercio, former u. S. District attorney and msnbc contributor joyce advance and columnist and associate editor of the Washington Post and misin connecti msnbc columnist eugene. What a week it has been. It was an incredible day yesterday. What are your thoughts . Lets start with dr. Ford. Extremely compelling. Extremely painful. I had tears in my eyes during both Opening Statements. And let me ask you a question. Yesterday it was an extraordinary day. And you were, you were tearing up. There were a couple of times i was coughing tearing up. What is the last political event that you can remember you were tearing up, other than every time barack obama gives a speech. No. Well, i cried when barack obama gave speeches for completely different reason. No, you didnt. But what an extraordinary day, what an emotional day. You were tearing up during the her testimony and during his testimony and his wife. That was the thing. And i would go on twitter saying is most horrible things, taking sides, and i felt uncomfortable watching this whole thing. And i couldnt help but believe every step of the day yesterday that this is exactly what donald trump wants. And what hes been working for since he decided to run for president. He sows doubt, he defames people, and he loves pitting people against each other. And i feel like democrats and republicans are falling for whatever joke he has played on this cup. And i do agree with Brett Kavanaugh, this is a circus and were not going to get to the truth this way. I was extremely sad for politics and the media yesterday. If you can not watch both of these human beings suffering and not feel empathy for them, then you were so bias and you were so sold into your political side and you so determined what you were going to believe, than you really shouldnt be reporting. But the reaction to dr. Ford and the the passion that women feel right now for her, it is due to trump. We have a president who has been accused of Sexual Harassment and assault and claims he does it. And we are, i think, collectively at this point but mika, what does that have to do with what i just said . Because one woman is stepping up and being heard and we believe her. We want to hear her. Yet there are facts that are undisputable. There are a lot of facts and challenges to this case and its painful to watch people digging in. So i dont think in this arena we will know the truth. And i think the weakness you pointed out in realtime was him not saying he could totally accept an investigation. That was the biggest hole. Lets get to that. I want to make my bigger point and ill say it again. If you watched the Opening Statements and you didnt have empathy for both of those people and you immediately went on twitter and started trashing them the based on your political affiliation, you shouldnt be a reporter. Youre too bias. I didnt support cavanaugh. I expressed well well before this. If he believes what he says and his life has been absolutely destroyed and his faems reputation has been destroyed and his children have said to destroy this, what public figure cant feel for that person . I know, willie, we were talking about this and talked about how compelling dr. Ford was. And Brett Kavanaugh, talk about that. But also, there was a defining moment where sort of the guard. Dropped for Brett Cavanaugh and he got on theive and it just didnt make sense. I think when senator durbin confronted him with why not have an fbi investigation, things started to unravel for him. If you look at his tone and posture after that, he went back and forth with senator feinstein. He looked more than defensive at that point. It wasnt a perry mason moment, but if these hearings had a perry mason moment, that was it. And its not going to change a single vote. The people that were going to vote for cavanaugh before are going to vote for him after. I still dont know who is telling the truth and who is not. Nobody does. But that was a moment where you just said it makes no sense that he and every republican are afraid to have an fbi they can talk about delay. Its a week. The world knows what that is about. They dont want the fbi to talk to mark judge. And weve said that for a week and a half now since weve first heard about this. If you were Brett Kavanaugh, wouldnt you want a third party to look at this just so you could point at it and say dont take my word for it. Take the fbis word for it. He was given that chance i believe 19 times. He was asked, do you want the fbi to look at it . You know what . You would do that the first day. If you were saying this the about me, i would say bring in the fbi. I want them in right now. I want you know what . Bring in the nsa. Bring in everybody you can bring in. Investigate it now. But the excuses, oh, theyve already done six on this . Listen, and they said oh, but mark judge has this is a guy that is a recovering alcoholic and a lot of other issues. Hes not going to lie. Exactly. And they dont want that. The failure to have an fbi investigation which both sides could put faith into it, at least a measure of faith into it, because it would be conducted on sort of an equal basis. Its not my polygraph test. Its not my affidavits. Its the fbis findings, whatever they may be. Without that, half the country is going to think the investigation is illegitimate. Can somebody tell Lindsey Graham he can scream as loud as he wants. It does not change the fact and it will not distract americans from the fact that theyre just trying to rush this through as quickly as possible because they dont want anything else to come up and they dont want the fbi to have three days to talk to mark judge. They could start it today and be done by sunday night. Versus a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. With a cloud, mika, over his head. So in his Opening Statements, judge kavanaugh said he welcomed an fbi investigation and wouldnt go there again during the questioning. When this allegation first arose, i welcomed any investigation, senate, fbi or otherwise. I know that any kind of investigation, senate, fbi, Montgomery County police, whatever, will clear me. If you, judge kavanaugh, turned don mcghan and to this committee and said for the sake of my name, and to get to the bottom of this, i am not going to be an obstacle i welcome whatever the committee wants to do. Im telling you truth. I want to do what you want to do. Im innocent. Im innocent of this charge. You dont want an fbi investigation . They dont reach conclusions. If there is no truth to her charges, the fbi investigation will show that. Are you afraid that they might not . Come on. Gee whiz. The fbi does not reach you know thats a phony question because the fbi doesnt reach conclusions. Judge kavanaugh, will you support an fbi investigation right now . I will do whatever the committee wants to personally, do you think thats the best thing for us to do . You wont answer . Look, senator, ive i have said i wanted a hearing and i said i would welcome anything. Im incident. Not a perry mason moment, but certainly the moment that judge cavanaughs defense certainly wavered. The fbi can go in and ask questions instead of getting a piece of paper that they can draft for him. I have a slightly different take away from all this. A friend of mine, a lifelong democrat said, well, maybe it will make him a better judge because he knows what it feels like to be accused of something and maybe it will give him insight. But after watching the hearing and watching judge kavanaugh, i think he will be his temperament is just not suited. I think hes going to be resentful. Even if it clears him, i think he dug himself into a hole yesterday that he cant come out of without being angry and resentful. Do you know who else people said that happened to . Clarence thomas. He was transformed. The hearings transformed him, whether you think he was innocent or guilty, he got on to the court. He was ainge ary. And it made him, many people believe, far more of a hard liner during his entire term than he would have been because he felt so abused by the process. And, again, people can pass their judgment, but, god, there is a parallel. There is. And it is clarence thomas. You now have a guy who declared open warfare against the democrats. Im not judging him for it. Im just not, given everything he went through. But thats not good for the court. No. But he also lent in that partisan conversation about bringing up clinton and donald trump and that is what really unsettled me, joe. Thats where i started to feel this person is angry and i dont know if he can come out of it. The clinton line, didnt you think, susan, that was the grand conspiracy line that really made no problem with you being upset. And angry at whats been done to you and the way the democrats held this to the very end, leaked it. Diane feinstein apparently they were saying shopping a lawyer for dr. Ford. I understand him thinking that the process was rigged against him. But, boy, that clinton line, who couldnt flinch. That was my turning moment with him. I was never a big fan of judge kavanaugh, but i thought he should be heard. I think we should allow for the possibility he didnt do this. But when i heard him go down that road, it really turned me. So the object of yesterdays hearing was to find out the truth. We shouldnt have to sit here and say who looked more angry . Who was more convincing . I dont think we got any closer to that answer. You had a woman who clearly suffered a dramatic incident. You had a nominee in Brett Kavanaugh who clearly and adamantly believes it was not him. So now again, the question i posed on twitter last night, what is a senator to do with what he or she saw yesterday . Well, youre right, willie. The problem is there is not a definitive version of the truth. Neither side said i was wrong and youre right. What you have to do and what prosecutors do is begin to weigh the credibility of all of the evidence. And the key problem here is we dont have all the evidence. We have not had an fbi investigation. So i hold strongly against judge kavanaugh the fact that he could never come out and call for an fbi investigation. Its the logical thing to do. And he kept going back to the fact that, well, i called for a hearing. A hearing is not an investigation. And the hearing is controlled by Chuck Grassley. We saw just how down the middle Chuck Grassley was yesterday. It was an embarrassing spectacle. It really did. Chuck grassley embarrassed himself. He embarrassed the Republican Party. He embarrassed the committee. There needs to be a new judiciary chairman or chair woman there. Chair woman would be a pretty good concept for republicans. Or even just woman. Just a woman on the committee. But a very good point. And saying, oh, the republicans are jamming this through and saying were going to just it doesnt matter what evidence is up. Were going to get this vote. Lindsey graham saying i dont care what the accusers are saying, were going to get this vote. Really . Theyre really saying that that is the investigation, that that is as good of an investigation as the fbi . This is a man who will sit on the Supreme Court of the United States for decades. And as much as his personal integrity has been called into question in this process, the integrity of the court will be called into question if he was confirmed without a process where the American People feel like they have a better answer. You know whats interesting, guys . The American Bar Association last night which strongly supported Brett Kavanaugh said, pump the brakes after it was done yesterday. We need an fbi investigation pulling back their endorsement. Say no more. I dont think thats ever happened before. It is the right thing to do. The American Bar Association who, again, strongly recommended Brett Kavanaugh, said just hold on. And, again, think about how preposterous it is that trump, mcconnell, graham, all of these men are saying we have to rush to a vote now. We have to move this as quickly as possible. Are they really going to vote today . This guy could be on the court until 2050. 2050. And they cant wait four days for an fbi investigation so he can go on the Court Without a cloud over his head . And by the way, they say to dr. Ford, thanks very much, nice lady, as Lindsey Graham calls her during the break. We wont say to your face that we dont believe you. Well just go ahead and pretend that you werent here. Coming up next on morning joe, the role of Lindsey Graham in all of this. Well be right back. Graham in all of this well be right back. This whole twoweek effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit fueled with apparent pent up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election, fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, revenge on behalf of the clintons, and millions of dollars in money from outside left wing opposition groups. This is a circus. Opposition groups. This is a circus people tell me all the time i have the craziest job, the riskiest job. The consequences underwater can escalate quickly. 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And that change was the last we heard from prosecutor mitchell. Republicans on the Judiciary Committee sat in silent behind mitchell. Chairman grassley did the speaking for them, but then senator Lindsey Graham reclaimed his time using it to clam his democratic colleagues. If you wanted an fbi investigation, you would have come to us. What you want to do is destroy this guys life, hold this seat open and hope you win in 2020. Youve said that, not me. Youve got nothing to apologize for. When you see sotomayor and kagan, tell them they say hello. This is the most unethical sham since ive been in politics. And that was just part of it. Joining us now from political, garrett. Good morning. What is senator grahams role in all this . We saw a preview of this during the break