Test gets a test. Theyre there. They have the tests. The president said that anybody who wants a test can get a testing. Is that consistent with what you heard . No, it is not consistent right now. Thats the goal, to get testing for everybody who wants testing, to be able to get it, and get it in multiple locations. Thats not accurate right now. Should he stop saying that . Yeah. People should not say if you want a test, go get a test right now. A republican senator would like the president to stop lying about a national crisis. The top expert on diseases, meanwhile, is calling the governments response by its proper name. The system does not is not really geared to what we need right now. What you are asking for. That is a failing. A failing . It is a failing. Lets admit it. The idea of anybody getting it easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, were not set up for that. Do i think we should be . Yes. But were not. Dr. Anthony fauci will be our guest this morning on morning joe. Good morning. Welcome to morning joe. It is friday, march 13th. What a week its been, joe. The past 24 hours has put the United States of america in a very different place. Very different place. There have been a lot of cancellations, a lot of sports cancellations and, yeah, it is very disconcerting. Local states of emergency. Local states of emergency that are in place. It was a terrible day on wall street, but im starting to see recognition in areas that there hasnt been recognition in the past. Thats a really good thing. Willie, we saw a senator say, no, you cant get tests right now if you need them. Thats important, that the truth start being told like that. Dr. Fauci said the same thing yesterday. Said it was a failing. Last night, sean hannity asked azar, secretary azar, when can every american get a test if they want a test . Secretary azar refused to answer the question. Its being asked. But it is being asked. Martha mccallum, earlier in the evening on fox news asked the question, what about ventilators . We have a shortage of ventilators. How are we going to fix that . The person that was her guest just spouted off trump talking points, saying, well, this is why donald trump is doing such a great job. No, that was the talk from last week. It seems that there is an understanding, there is a seriousness, that this pandemic is serious. Senior citizens are endangered. Millions of lives are endangered. If we get ahead of it, if we do better than weve done over the past month, we dont have to look like italy. I saw that yesterday, willie, actually, in a very depressing day on many fronts. But i saw that as a silver lining. Without question. Without question. Society, states, local governments, schools are taking this as seriously as possible. As serious as necessary right now. We talked about this for a week now, that we have to, sadly, look past the president of the United States who, in many ways has his own interest in mind. We misstated three Different Things during his primetime address. He didnt talk about testing. We have new reporting that mika will get into in a second, that he wanted to slow down the testing a little bit, not introduce new testing because he worried the new numbers of cases might hurt his chances at reelection. The country is doing the right thing in spite of its president right now. Yeah. I have to say, mika, thats another thing. Sean hannity, of course, he said a lot of things last night. Most things he said last night i disagreed on. He was bashing the media pretty much nonstop. Obviously, it is a free country. He also talked about how this pandemic was serious and said it was legitimate that people were concerned that testing had not gotten out there yet. I mean, see, this is what in a pandemic, the one thing the president said the other night i agreed on was we are all in this together. I hope the president of the United States starts acting more like were all in this together. If it if we can at least have the same set of facts to start from, which is, we are in the middle of a Global Pandemic. This is frightening. This is a real danger to our Senior Citizens and our grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers, fathers, which certainly sounded like that last night on fox news. There was no talking anymore as there had been on some shows about hoaxes and media hoaxes. If we can have a debate on how to best do that, is it bans coming in and out of this country, is it this, is it that, blah, blah . I mean, as long as were debating the same facts and everybody is just interested in one thing, and that is beating this pandemic, well, thats a good step forward for us as a country. And the prevailing question that really stands to be the number one question for the entire country right now is how is it possible . How is it possible that, in some cases, desperate people cannot get tests . They still cant. Willie, we have a good friend, and he was exposed to the coronavirus. Tried desperately to get testing. Couldnt do it. So they just sent himcounting t. Hes got to be in lockdown for the next four days, separated from his family, because they dont have a test to tell him whether hes positive or not. Hes going to be off of work for about four, five days, and people who work for him are not going to be getting a paycheck. I mean, this is and this is being repeated across the country. In ohio, reports they only had 1,500 in the entire state of ohio. Good god. In california, gavin newsom said, you sent me copiers without ink. Yes, you gave me test kits, but you dont have the chemicals to actually make the test kits worth a damn. We need somebody, and azar, if it is not azar, he needs to quit. He needs to go home. He needs to play tiddlywinks or whatever he does at home. When will Older Americans be able to get a test when they want a test, to know if theyre safe or not . Yeah. What dr. Fauci said yesterday, and well ask him again shortly here on this show, is were not set up for this. The question is, why is the wealthiest country on the face of the earth not set up for this . Youre right, thats the protocol people are getting in new york and cities across the country. Dont come into an er. Dont go look for a test. We just dont have them. Go home, isolate yourself, drink a lot of fluids, take an ibuprofen, treat it like you have the flu, and stay away from other people. Thats the best we can do right now. Of course, yesterday, there were reports that early on the president didnt want the Testing Process to go forward because he didnt want to get the positives. He knew if numbers went up, it was going to be bad for his reelection campaign. I trust that we are well beyond that. I trust that we are beyond that. But if we are beyond that, we need a federal official that works for Donald Trumps administration to step forward and give us a timeline. When are we going to get the tests . How quickly will our mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers get the tests . When can our children, who may be testing positive for the coronavirus, when can they know whether they are or not, so we dont have to selfquarantine them and keep them away from their parents and grandparents . Its a lot of questions. A legitimate question. Lets give you a snapshot of how much the rapidly spreading coronavirus is disrupting almost every aspect of public life. Maryland, ohio, michigan, and now oregon have ordered schools to close statewide. Kentuckys governor has recommended closures, stopping short of a mandate. The cities of San Francisco and houston have also closed schools. West point has told cadets not to return from spring break on monday. There will be no school or mass for the archdiocese of washington, d. C. The Mormon Church canceled services worldwide. Wow. In the sports world, Major League Baseball has delayed opening day while suspending spring training. The National Hockey league paused its season. The ncaa has canceled march madness. Nascar cases will continue without spectators. Formula 1 canceled its season opener. Live nation and aeg, the nations largest concert promoters suspended all tours. Broadway, Carnegie Hall, and the met opera have gone dark. New york joins five other states in pbanning large gatherings. Disneyland, disney world, disney cruises and universal shut down. Late night shows suspended production. Jimmy fallon and others. Hollywood suspended fast and furious and mulan. In the race for the white house, the president has halted his Campaign Rallies, while sundays debate between joe biden and Bernie Sanders has been moved from arizona to cnns washington studio to cut down on travel. Which brings us to the stock market and its worst oneday drop since black monday in 1987. Exactly one month after the dow soared to an alltime market high, by one measure, the total stock market value gained under President Trump is now gone. The day started with a Second Circuit breaker triggered this week after the s p plunged more than 7 , just minutes after the opening bell, causing a 15minute trading halt. The fed tried to ease investors as the markets began to slide by pumping 1. 5 trillion into shortterm funding markets over the next two days. However, the day continued on a decline. The dow plunging over 2,300 points, a drop of 10 , while the s p and the nasdaq both sank over 9 . Lets bring in some of the best voices on this topic. Former treasury official and morning joe economic analyst, steve rattner. Nbc news Senior Business correspondent and msnbc anchor Stephanie Ruhle. Stephanie, you look, stephanie, at what the fed did yesterday. Pumped 1. 5 trillion in, the market kept collapsing. It was last week, i guess, that the fed cut rates a half point to after try to stop the slide. The slide continued. Investors, are they not sending the message to the white house and the world, that this is not a financial crisis, this is a Health Care Crisis that is causing a financial crisis. Stop throwing money at the problem. It is not going to fix it. Youve got to fix the Health Care Crisis first. All these markets crashing, thats the fever. Thats the symptom of the underlying disease. Thats absolutely right. Joe, what the fed did yesterday was different from a rate cut. The 1. 5 trillion is really to keep lending going, to make sure we dont run into a banking or a funding issue. Something to remember, when you see the markets tank like this, it is because were finally actually addressing this Health Crisis. In order to address it, you basically have to put the whole country, were putting our economy on pause. Were asking every american to sort of change almost every aspect of the way we live our lives. The sooner we do that, the sooner we can get to the other side of this. I mean, there is positive. If you look to china this morning, all 42 of the apple stores are reopening. Youre seeing in south korea the numbers start to go down. The positive is now that were actually assessing and addressing this risk, at least from corporate america, then the sooner we can do that and send everybody home sick until they get better. Then we can come back. Fundamentally, the economy is in much better shape than it was in 08. You said it exactly right, this is a Health Crisis turned into a financial crisis. It is different from where we were in 08. But, you know, steve rattner, the problem is right now, we dont have testing. Americans cant get tested because we have a president and a cdc that has botched this from the very beginning. Until we get that testing, until we know how widespread this pandemic is in the United States of america, we cant start figuring out when companies are going to come back online. We cant start figuring out when people are going to start filling into stadiums again. We cant figure out when theyre going to start spending their money again. Can we . No. You talked about a Health Crisis and financial crisis. Theres one crisis in between, which is an economic crisis. The financial crisis were looking at is really a reflection of whats going on in the economy. This is very different than in 08. 08 was a financial crisis. Fundamentally more or less healthy economy, and then a financial crisis. Here, the economic crisis is that people have basically started to stop work. Essentially, the Economic Activity, as mika read off, is dropping at a dramatic pace. That is going to come at a huge cost to our economy. When i was on the show i think three or four days ago, it looked like there was maybe a 65 chance of a recession. I think today it is well over 90 . The Bank Economists are taking down forecasts substantially. Jpmorgan is predicting negative growth in the first quarter, the second quarter. You cant have this much of a s secession of Economic Activity without affecting the Financial Markets, which see recession. Have the markets overreacted or not . Certainly a part of whats going on in the Financial Markets reflects a lack of leadership at the top, a lack of testing kits, a president who goes on television to reassure the nation and the stock market immediately rolls over. There is no sense in the wall Street Community that i live in, there is no sense theres any leadership here, any plan for how were going to get out of this. Thats why you see the market in this panic stage. Will it stay that way . I dont know. Depends on what happens in washington. The last thing i would say is that when you have a recession, which we will almost certainly have, you need to react to that. You need to provide this is where washington has a job, which is to provide support to the economy in this time. Talking about a bill in washington at the moment, which is a completely inadequate bill to address the broader economic questions. It may address sick leave, this or that. It is not going to stop the recession. We need a major piece of legislation out of washington. Given the gridlock that has been down there for four years, there is no sign of that happening. What concerns me is that everybody is talking about and i watched cnbc yesterday and there are a lot of people on there talking about, oh, we need the federal government to provide this stimulus plan. We need the federal government to provide this plan to workers, et cetera. I mean, yes, we need to figure out how to provide economic relief. Again, youre just putting a bandage on a bigger problem that is going to continue to fester until you take care of the underlying problem. We need somebody telling us why were not able to get test kits to americans. Were not able to get accurate figures on how widespread this pandemic is. Were not able to predict where this pandemic is going to go in the coming months until we begin the testing consistently. Thats what is so frustrating to me right now. Everybody is talking about putting together packages for economic relief. The problems are going to continue until we take care of the medical issues underneath. That starts with testing. Joe actually sounds like the biggest investors in the market right now who are not talking about economic stimulus. The two things they are asking for are the number are tests, a vaccine, and simply how many people here have it . You remember, dow futures plummeted after the president spoke. First thing he was talkingbette than europe. There were people overseas waking up to that going, sorry, you have no idea how many people have it. You havent tested zblereveryon the markets are like people, they want to know what the hell is going on and where the end of this is. Ian bremmer is president and founder of Eurasia Group and editor at large for time magazine. Youve been writing a lot about china. The 42 apple stores in china are opening again. Maybe its a signal that progress is being made. What has china done . We know theyve hidden a lot of the numbers. We know theres corruption there. We know it is a different kind of society than we have here. What has china done to begin at least to get its arms around coronavirus that maybe we can learn from here . They mishandled this desperately at the beginning, as you say. Since then, the recognition that xi jinping had personal vulnerability in not reacting effectively to coronavirus led to an extraordinary amount of direct quarantine. Over 70 Million People in the most severe quarantine surveillance state that we have ever experienced in the history of the world. As a consequence of that, their new cases are down to virtually nothing. Double digits on a daily basis, compared to the total of almost 100,000 weve heard. Thats meant their economy has started to restart. It is restarting more slowly than they would have liked, precisely because they dont want further outbreaks. Itll have an economic e implication. What is china doing . Responding with propaganda effectively. Against the United States, inside chinese media, the amount of antiu. S. Propaganda youre seeing is immense compared to when we had the china deal with the United States, when they were being much, much softer. Based on what . It started there. What is the antiu. S. Propaganda . Based on the americans going out and saying, well, this is the wuhan flu. It is the china flu. Youre seeing that from the republicans. E youre seeing it from the Trump Administration, President Trump himself. Also with some of the talk of, well, now this is bringing manufacturing back to the u. S. The official spokesperson of china yesterday came out and floated a conspiracy theory, that this came from the u. S. Military. While the europeans are looking at americans and saying, how dare you announce, our ally, announce a travel ban of our citizens before you even tell us, before you even discussion it. They condemned it. Chinese are going, a member of belt and road, and saying well provide you with m