4. Trump won the other. Were still awaiting the results from several battleground states. Right now georgia, pennsylvania, nevada, north carolina, all too close to call. Arizona too early to call. So here we are. Good morning and welcome to morning joe. It is thursday, november 5th. Along with joe, willie and me, from the Associated Press, Jonathan Lemire. Nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of way too early, kasie hunt. We will never let her stop working. Host of politicsnation and president of the National Action network, reverend al sharpton. First to pennsylvania, joe biden has cut into the lead of donald trump significantly. Around this time yesterday trump led by 700,000 votes. And now trump leads by just over 164,000 votes. With a lot of mailin ballots still being counted. We could look specifically at Philadelphia County. Home to a lot of biden voters. He currently leads by 60 and we are still waiting for more than 244,000 votes from Philadelphia County. Biden is currently at 79 . Hillary clinton won Philadelphia County with 82 in 2016. Were also waiting for about 80,000 votes from Allegheny County where pittsburgh is located. Biden currently leads by 19 Percentage Points in that county. Over in bucks county the states fourth most populated county where unemployment rates and deaths per capita linked to covid are some of the highest in the country. Trump currently leads by just over 3,200 votes with 58,000 votes still expected. Trump lost bucks county by 1 percentage point in 2016. While were talking about pittsburgh and philadelphia and the state of pennsylvania, willie, lets if we look at some of the numbers that i just had sent to me, big difference in 16. Montgomery county, bidens up by 26 . Thats up from 21 four years ago. In chester, up by 17 . Thats up from Hillary Clintons 9 . Delaware by 23 . Thats also up and bucks will end unlikely being a wider margin than 16 . But pennsylvania is one of those states that if you look at the trends and you see where its going and its been going that way for the past couple of days, it looks like thats a state where joe bidens going to catch up in much the same way he caught up in wisconsin and michigan. If again, as i keep saying, the past is prologue. It looks like hes going to have enough votes which hes getting at a quick enough clip that he could catch up. Georgia is a little tighter. Georgia were going to go down i mean, thats were going down to the last 10,000 votes there. Biden can catch up there most likely well get very close if not go ahead by 5,000, 10,000 votes. Then you look at arizona thats actually going in an opposite direction. And its donald trump whos picking up votes at a pretty good clip. They still have quite a few to count there. And the votes that are coming in in arizona were looking of course at pennsylvania right now, but the votes that are coming in in arizona are ballots that were dropped off at the end. And if arizona is anything like florida as far as the waves of voters, the closer to the election those ballots are dropped off, those absentee ballots are dropped off the more likely voters are to be voting for donald trump. And certainly in a batch that was released last night we saw an almost 6040 split in favor of donald trump and the president s going to need to continue on that pace. Again, i think Steve Kornacki said hes going to have to pick up 59 of all votes that remain in arizona to overtake joe biden. So thats going to be a close one and then of course nevada later on today, which the biden camp feels confident about that. Arizona, still confident from the biden camp, but as that comes in they get less confident. Right now, joe biden is leading by about 68,000 votes, still waiting for votes from allimportant Maricopa County. The Election Department for maricopa which is the most populous county, more results will come at 7 00 p. M. Local time today. Not clear when other counties in arizona will report out their latest figures but Jonathan Lemire, this is a place as you know that the Trump Campaign and the white house is focusing very closely the state of arizona. We have seen some of his supporters out chanting count the votes, count the votes there. Obviously in other states theyre saying stop the counts. But how close does the white house think arizona is . It may not matter if joe biden wins pennsylvania today hes got enough to go over 270. So where is the white houses focus this morning . The white houses focus is sort of in the closing days of the campaign, its scatter shots, a lot of places at once. You hit the two states theyre most zeroed in on. The Associated Press and fox news have already called arizona for joe biden and thats something that has enraged the Trump Campaign. We have spoken publicly about it. We have reported that the night on Election Night when Arizona First went fox news made the first call that sent a chill through the president s watch party in the east room of the white house. That is one as you said they believe they can pick up the number of votes needed to flip it and where theyre trying to contest the election right now. They feel that they have the ability to change it even as the votes come in for Maricopa County, but theres been a lot of second guessing in trump world about arizona. Its been a problem and some members of the Campaign IncludingBrad Parscale who was demoted over the summer suggested that the president needed to spend some time there and the president was reluctant to do so in part because he didnt like to travel out west. Hes reluctant to spend so many nights away from his own bed which he didnt want to be out there which would require an overnight stay. The focus is pennsylvania, they feel they need arizona and pennsylvania in order to keep any sort of feasible legal challenge going. To have to show they have a possible path to 270. Pennsylvania, their campaign, Campaign Manager bill stepian declared victory in pennsylvania. On a Conference Call with reporters he declared victory, but thats not how this works. He did that, the Trump Campaign had a News Conference in philadelphia that featured Rudy Giuliani and others and they made that same claim. They believe they have enough votes but theyre growing more pessimistic by the hour as the numbers come in. That pennsylvania will be very, very difficult. As a final point youre right. We are seeing sort of an incoherence in their legal challenges. There are three states, pennsylvania, georgia and michigan, where theyre trying to stop the count. In arizona, theyre trying to keep it going. And it shows right now just a real fear that today this race is slipping away from the president. Theres a legal incoherence, mika. You saw it, there are no republicans taking these challenges seriously. Mitch mcconnell as well as other senators. Marylands governor. They have stepped forward. Yeah, larry hogan in maryland, they have stepped forward. You had rick sanatorium on cnn, Chris Christie on abc. A lot of the resoundingly pushing back. Resoundingly pushing back for good reason because they understand the consequences of undermining the rule of law. The president does not understand the consequences of undermining the rule of law and hes made that perfectly clear over the past four, five years. Some would say over the course of his entire adult life, but in this case the fact that hes having such a scatter shot approach where hes demanding the stopping of counting in states where hes ahead are in the case of michigan, falling behind further by the hour, and then demanding the counts of votes of states where hes behind that has legal consequences. When federal judges see that sort is of scatter shot approach, that sort of intellectually incoherent legal argument, then that does have legal consequences for those challenges. Thats why i dont think anybody that i have spoken with in the Legal Community sees any merit to any of these claims. So we are a far stretch from the legal challenges of 2000. Right now, there dont appear to be any that are going to be significant. Yeah some day it would be great to talk about them and what makes this different than what where they have stood by quietly, but a resounding pushback and members of his family, the president s family, were screaming accusations of voter fraud right and left. Rudy giuliani it was kind of interesting and well, its not interesting. Its sad and pathetic. It was weird. Theyre busch league amateurs and they stumbled into the white house through what donald trump, the Remarkable Campaign he was able to run in 2016. No matter what you think of it, yep. Well, it was an incredible campaign. It was. It was. And nobody expected him to win. And i probably probably the greatest upset in american history. Yes. But there have been as you said family members and others who just embarrass themselves, are not helping the cause at all and in fact, donald trump is not helping his own cause legally when hes holding the ranting press conferences. He can do whatever he wants to do, hes the president of the United States, but the press conference, the scatter shot approaches as Jonathan Lemire said does not help his cause not even legally. Not even politically on places like fox news where theyre even telling members of the Trump Administration, this is america, you have to count the votes. So georgia is too close to call this morning. A new batch of votes just came in and President Trump, his lead, has narrowed to just over 18,000 votes in Fulton County thats home to atlanta. 7,500 absentee votes still to be counted. At 10 15 p. M. Last night, georgias secretary of state said several counties were still counting ballots and there were about 90,000 ballots still outstanding. Numbers that will certainly update with this latest batch of votes. Today can be a big day. Today is going to be a big day. And so rev, we can put these states in different buckets. Philadelphia right now, again, if you just follow the trends of wisconsin and michigan, it certainly looks like donald trump is going to catch or joe bidens going to catch and overtake joe biden there. You look at arizona, well, you know, donald trump i think is going to continue getting closer and closer to joe biden. As they count those remaining votes, but in georgia, were at a virtual tie already. The new batch of votes put donald trump within 17,000 votes. You do the math. It looks like joe biden probably is going to catch him this morning and go ahead by 10,000, 20,000 votes. That is the way it appears at this point, very much so. I think the thing that comes to me, you and i are baptist and the preacher in looks at the fact that donald trump probably personifies the most racist, xenophobic administration we have seen in our lifetime and it may end up just as jim clyburn and blacks in South Carolina brought joe biden in and it may be that Fulton County in georgia that brings them over the top in the Electoral College which would be a fitting way for us to end the Trump Administration. If it all pans out that way. Im watching it very closely, but i think you and i exchanged texts yesterday. When we saw what happened in wisconsin and the vote in kenosha helped to bring wisconsin over for joe biden. The irony of it all, the irony of all places, kenosha brought joe biden over the top. Thats where a young militia guy came in and shot and killed two people in kenosha and the president came in and never condemned it right there in kenosha and kenosha delivered the victory in wisconsin for joe biden. Only joe, you and i on the bench would understand what that really means to us as baptists. Yes. Yes. Let me ask you this. You have said that the president has been racist and of course youre not alone. The majority of americans according to several polls over the last few years have said that donald trump is in fact racist. So i have this question that i think a lot of people a lot of civil rights leaders like you and a lot of democratic politicians are going to have to grapple with. And thats a fact that a guy who has made common cause with the proud boys, with white nationalists who drew praise from david duke and Richard Spencer and others and neonazis after charlottesville whos acted abhorrently and used race as a wedge issue received 20 of the votes of black men according to exit polls. We have to wait and see, sometimes the first exit polls arent as accurate. There will be more in depth studies, but 20 and this morning i saw the headline in the New York Times. Get this, hispanics deliver texas for donald trump. Whats going on . You look especially at votes along the border. And hispanics broke hard. I think Hillary Clinton won hispanics by 60 in that area. Donald trump won them by 5 . So donald trump outperformed how most republicans performed among hispanics. A group that hes derided as breeders. That hes locked their children in cages. And has once again been racially insensitive at best. So whats going on there . I hope those numbers go down a little bit, black men once Fulton County comes in and philly. But hes done better than in my judgment should have with black men and hispanics which means we have to look in the Civil Rights Community over at the latino and the africanamerican side on what it is to be different in terms of being entrepreneurial aspirants and being fair in terms of how we look from the whole. I think he appealed to some that wanted to feel that they had to be a certain kind of way, to be aspirational and you can be that and still be centrist and i think that a lot of them bought into the false view that they were putting out that joe biden with the crime bill rather than dealing with the fact that joe biden was going along with majority of people even in black leadership with the crime bill and distorting Kamala Harriss record and distorting that they were some kind of socialists and i think that a lot of that was bought in to as far as false propaganda and with no real push back and direct answers. I really believe theres got to be a lot of work in the areas to ignore it or act like it doesnt matter is not wise. And i think if joe biden and Kamala Harris are successful they have to really work but theyll inherent a county thats in a pandemic and a low economy and they have a rough road and they have to deal with bringing everybody together to deal with it. It will not be something that you would really want to win if you want to have an easy three or four years. It really wont be. Nope. I said it will be a tough four years. The economy will crash in 2021. The aftereffects. Whoever wins. The dominos fall. So whoever ends up winning this race is going to its just going to be a tough job and theyre probably going to say did i really want to do this . Its so important, mika, what the rev just said about for instance, entrepreneurs, hispanics who are entrepreneurs. It reminds me of several years ago of, you know, gay republicans and people say how in the world can you be a gay republican and the answers would be this. Okay, im gay, im also an entrepreneur, im also a catholic and tick down the list. Yes, this is one part of me, one part of who i am, but im not going to disregard the other things that i am as well. And its the same thing with hispanics. You know, yeah, im a hispanic. Im also an entrepreneur. Im also a catholic. Im also conservative. Im also pro life. I also believe in traditional family, i also believe in this and i hate castro. All of these things when you start saying that and youre a hispanic, the democrats in the past have just shut you off. Yeah. And they have just ignored it. Again, i try to bring these things up and people get upset about it. The fact is let me say it again. Miamidade turned out the way miamidade turned out to be because cuban americans hate socialists. Let me say that again. Cubanamericans, nicaraguans who have come to america, and venezuelans who have come to america, they hate socialism and you may not like that on twitter but you might better just keep your head buried in twitter and not run democratic campaigns because until you understand that, until you understand what rev and i have been saying for years, that black americans are conservative with a small c, and not woke, not latte liberals as the rev says, until you understand that youre going to keep getting surprised as this country becomes more diverse. Those votes arent automatically come to you as a democrat. You have to go to them and understand them. Their lives, how theyre living. Why they may hate socialism. Why they may hate castro, why they may hate ortega, why they may hate whats going on in venezuela and you have to understand that instead of from your woke castle in new york city or your ivory tower, or whatever outrageous industry we can rev, you have to understand this. Its a reality, why is it so important now . Go read the New York Times headline. Hispanics deliver texas to joe biden. All the white voters that we have been talking about for the past year or two in the suburbs, all of those gains for democrats were erased by hispanics in texas who left the Democratic Party and voted for donald j. Trump. Its complicated. You cant figure it out on twitt