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MSNBCW Morning Joe November 18, 2020

Repeatedly, not a second term of the Current Administration, the next administration. Whos that going to be . It could be Terry Bradshaw. Maybe Terry Bradshaw will be running the next administration . I dont know. I mean, it could be mitt romney . Its probably going to be joe biden. Its okay. Mitch, you can say it, the Biden Administration. Its okay. Donald trump cant fire you by tweet. But you know, we are getting to a point and i said at the beginning when mitch tweeted out that he tweeted out that we were going to go through the process, all the votes needed ton couto be counted, we need to count the legal votes, court challenges. I agree, thats legitimate to say, and willie, thats what we do here in the United States of america. But at this point, its a giant giuliani grift. He got laughed out of court yesterday in pennsylvania. Something went on in wayne county last night well talk about later. A lot. I mean, just talk about people literally trying to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters, black voters in michigan. Theyre just theyre hurting themselves. Its hard to believe, but after all of these years, so many of these people just continue to damage their reputation more by the day, and theyre getting routed. And now again, if you want to know how bad things are going, theyve now passed their Legal Proceedings over to the grifter in chief, Rudy Giuliani, who i dont think had been into a courtroom since 1992 when he got laughed out of the federal courtroom in philadelphia yesterday. Yeah, i mean, first of all, republicans are calling this the Biden Administration in private. Some of them are calling joe biden themselves. Others are asking their democratic colleagues to pass on their congratulations to joe biden. They know where this is headed, which makes it all the worse that they are doing what they say is to give the president space, to let the Legal Process play out. But i think as of yesterday, theyre 1 for 25 in court, is the Trump Campaign. Got smacked down in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court on the question of election observers. You have the secretary of state, a republican, who President Trump endorsed in georgia, whos holding firm, under pressure from those two senators there and from the president. Theyre going about their recount, which is going to certify again that joe biden won. This is all going very badly. Its very embarrassing. But the president seems to be leaning into it. So, the question to me, joe, is how much longer do republicans let this go on . How much longer do they let him fire people who are qualified and who are doing a good job . How much more damage will they allow this man to do to the country in his remaining two months, where they finally publicly acknowledge that hes leaving and that joe biden is the president elect . And when do formerly conservative outlets that have devolved into being little more than antitrump propaganda machines, when do they start saying not for the sake of joe biden, but for the sake of america and for the sake of their own ereputations this s a spectacle, republicans are making fools of themselves . Ive been waiting for the editorial page ive been reading my entire life, the wall street journal editorial page, to write Something Like that. Id love to see the National Review do what william f. Buckley would do, what william f. Buckley would have done the day after the election, and say, its over, mr. President. Its time for that. But i will say, the wall street journal this morning took a step in that direction. And the headline is, rage against the voting machine. This is the lead editorial in the wall street journal opinion page. President trump so far has been unwilling to concede to joe biden, and his latest argument is that Voting Machines must have been rigged. Wheres the evidence . Strong claims need strong proof, not rumors and innuendo on twitter. And they finish by saying, if georgias recount doesnt find big irregularities, which its not, then these claims should be put to rest. In the george w. Bush years, the conspiratorial left focused on bibold, a maker of electronic Voting Machines. It would be a mistake for anyone on the right to go down a similar dead end. And willie, i remember back during the bush years and all the conspiracies raging on the left about george w. Bush. It was exhausting. I remember when republicans won, you know, elections, you would hear the next morning, oh, we found these ballots i mean, it was you just we, republicans, used to mock conspiracy theorists on the far left for doing the same thing that they are doing now, except, my god, they have a president who is egging them on, who is actually getting in the way of a peaceful transition, which, of course, is one of the cornerstones, one of the foundational elements of this Constitutional Republic. We have a peaceful transfer of power and weve seen it happen time and time again. Go ahead. We see it from democrats to republicans and republicans to democrats, and if trump and his cronies cant grow up, it is time for formerly conservative thought leaders that used to run formerly conservative news outlets to step up and do the right thing here. Yeah, i mean, the conspiracy theories are getting more desperate. You have Rudy Giuliani on television talking about mobsters in philly stealing votes. And then literally in the same sentence, saying, well, that sounds pretty farfetched, but thats what im hearing. Thats the legal defense. Theyre just lobbing conspiracy theories out. But to your point, its not just republicans giving the president space to go through the Legal Process. Some of them are participating in the charade. Lindsey graham is calling the secretary of state in georgia and putting pressure on him during this recount. He also said he was calling around to other secretaries of state, including the one in arizona. Well, that secretary of state quickly put out a tweet yesterday, said ive never spoken to Lindsey Graham about this, this is false, i havent talked to him. What really captured the farce, though, is that Lindsey Graham is calling around to states he doesnt represent, asking them to relook at all their ballots. And then yesterday, going on the floor of the senate and fistbumping Kamala Harris when he saw her on the floor during a vote. Yeah. So, there you go. There it is all in one place. Hes going through the charade with the president , calling around the country and fistbumping Kamala Harris yesterday. Its just hard to be shocked at this point, but as joe pointed out well, because were not shocked, right . Were not. Its the damage that theyre doing to the country that you just wonder how far do you need to go with this charade . Were going to dig deeper into all of this. Along with joe, willie and me, we have White House Reporter for the associated press, Jonathan Lamire, nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of way too early, kasie hunt is with us. She never sleeps. And in a moment, were going to get to the latest person President Trump did fire by tweet, a top Elections Security official, simply because the official told the truth about how safe and secure the 2020 election was. But first, the story that all the dominant backdrop to all of this cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are on the rise in the u. S. As the country continues to suffer from the coronavirus pandemic. Its getting much, much worse. Yesterday, the u. S. Added over 159,000 coronavirus cases, bringing the overall total to 11. 4 million cases. Hospitals continue to run out of space and equipment as more than 73,000 people were hospitalized as of monday, an increase of over 3,000 from the day before. The average u. S. Deaths per day has also now reached over 1,100, up from just over 830 two weeks ago. The average pace is expected to climb in the coming days. It is getting so much worse, willie. It is. And the white house knows it. Nbc news has obtained a copy of the White House Coronavirus task forces latest weekly report to states that delivers an assessment of the pandemics trajectory. The report dated november 15th is jarring. It reads in part, there is now aggressive, unrelents, expanding, Broad Community spread across the country, reaching most counties without evidence of improvement, but rather, further deterioration. Current mitigation efforts are inadequate and must be increased to flatten the curve to sustain the Health System for both covid and noncovid emergencies. Heading into thanksgiving, the report warns, the upcoming holidays can amplify transmission considerably. States should expand all Health Messaging across all platforms, including sms autotexting, to warn citizens about the risks of social gatherings, advise people to avoid them, and reemphasize face coverings and social distancing. Specifically, recommend holding an event only with individuals within ones household and emphasize the risk of exposing an elderly person or someone with an underlying condition, if gathering indoors without masks. Again, thats the White House Coronavirus Task Force Weekly report. Lets bring in president of the American Medical Association, dr. Susan bailey, and chief nursing officer for the American Nurses association, debbie hatmaker. Dr. Bailey, let me begin with you. The white house assessment there is pretty stark. It tells the story. Whats your assessment of where we are right now . Things are, indeed, very grim. Doctors are concerned that our hospitals are filling up and that we really need to double down on our basic preventive measures wearing masks, washing hands, keeping six feet apart, and avoiding large, indoor gatherings. We have some vaccines and exciting things coming around the bend, but we want to be ready for them when they get here, and so we need to work as hard as we possibly can right now to slow down the number of new cases. Debbie, weve seen nurses doing interviews, trying to get the word out to show what it really looks like in these icus, what it looks like in a covid unit, many of them being overrun across the country. What can you tell us about what your nurses are seeing there on the front lines . Well, thank you, willie. And im pleased to be here this morning to represent the nations nurses. We are hearing that things are quite stark, and were very concerned that this delay in the transition is negatively impacting that. Just this week in north dakota, we heard that some facilities are running critically low on supplies and that nurses are being asked to transition and work in other units for which there hasnt been time for orientation and for adequate preparation or training for that. So, were concerned about that. And the delay in the transition only impacts that. So, it is time for the Trump Administration to begin to prepare the Biden Transition Team on those important issues around the stockpile for the necessary critical medical equipment. Were still seeing delays in ppe, inadequate supplies on ppe, and this will only get worse with the delays in the transition. So, dr. Bailey, before i get to my next question, im wondering if you could develop upon that point the actual impact of not sharing the information. Will it cost lives . We are very concerned about that. And an example. When shift change occurs in a hospital, doctors, nurses, everyone in the hospital needs to transfer information about their ill patients as quickly as possible and as completely as possible to make sure that nothing falls through the cracks in taking care of that particular patient. Well, were in that situation now on a national level, and the American Medical Association, the American Nurses association and the American Hospital association are all asking the Trump Administration to provide that morning report, that seamless transition, that information that we need to make sure that every patient is taken care of and nothing falls through the cracks. So, and dr. Bailey, a followup. The folks from the biden Coronavirus Task force are saying the first thing the president s going to do the president elect joe biden, is invoke the defense production act on things like testing and ppe and supplies. It seems like right now the state of testing is still quite marginal, difficult, not where it should be. Its either inaccurate or there are delays. You cant get immediate responses. Sometimes you wait five days, which, of course, makes treating the coronavirus and stopping the spread much more difficult. Would you agree that almost the most basic thing one can do right now is uniformly, across the country, wear a mask . The ama has recommended that everyone wear a mask for quite some time right now. And yes, there are shortages in supplies of basic testing equipment, of the chemicals that are used. Were doing lots of other tests in hospitals right now, too, as we come on flu season. A reminder, everybody get your flu shot. And it makes it more difficult, even more to get the test done. And so, theres lots of different tests out there. Theres a lot of confusion about which test to run, where to go to get it, how long youre going to get the results back, and were starting to see an increase in delays in test results because so many more are being done and supplies are short. So, dr. Hatmaker, lets end this segment. The numbers are grim. Infections have gone up. Deaths are moving back up again. But lets give our audience some reason to hope that we are actually moving in a positive direction. I saw yesterday in the New York Times a study, a widespread study talking about how immunity may actually last for, actually, years. They dont know yet. But one of the largest studies showed that. The viral load seems to be a little less intense in the fall than it was in the spring. And also, of course, therapeutics and just the way what youve learned over the past six, seven, eight months. Youve learned an awful lot about Covid Patients when they first come in that you didnt know in early march. What advances have we made . So, joe, you have pointed out, we have made advances in treatment. We are seeing lower mortalities, but we are still concerned about the case numbers and the strain that its putting on our Health Care Providers and our systems. Were very excited about what is just around the corner with vaccinatio vaccinations, but weve also heard in our surveys of nurses that they need Additional Information and education in order to be adequately prepared to do the mass vaccinations that are just ahead. And i will say, its going to be important for the Transition Team, for the new Biden Administration to receive the protocols for operation warp speed in order to prepare adequately for equitable distribution of those vaccines. Nurses and other Health Care Providers will be key in distributing and administering those vaccinations, so we need our politicians to stop politicizing this pandemic and to step up and be role models and to continue and to move ahead with the transition in order to be prepared for vaccinations and to move us past this critical surge in the pandemic. Were wasting time and were impacting lives the longer this delay continues. Well, we want to thank you both, president of the American Medical Association, dr. Susan bailey, and chief nursing officer for the American Nurses association, debbie hatmaker. Thank you both very much for being on the show this morning. Now to the head of the department of Homeland Securitys cybersecurity unit, who feared he would be fired after breaking with the president over the integrity of the election. And yesterday, it happened. President trump tweeted that chris krebs Statement Last week calling the election the most secure in American History was, quote, highly inaccurate. After re after repeating false claims about the election, the president then announced that krebs was being terminated as director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency. A source tells nbc news that krebs found out about it via twitter and that he was upset because he took the work seriously. Krebs clashed with the white house over his agencys rumor control blog designed to combat false claims about Election Fraud and hacking, many of which the president and his supporters have touted. Last night, krebs tweeted, honored to serve. We did it right. Defend today. Secure tomorrow. He also retweeted a post from mark hamill, in which the actor says krebs was fired for refusing to lie. The former chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee, republican richard burr, tweeted his support of krebs, calling him a dedicated Public S

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