Over the weekend you may have seen New York Times story of allegedly inappropriate behavior by trump with women we heard from one of the women featured on the front page and she is now loudly voicing her support and republicans were asked if that would hurt trumps standing in the party and the Top Republican trump supporter. I think all these stories come out. They come out every couple weeks. People just dont care. People have not expected purity on his part. What theyre concerned about, theyrevirtue. Lets start this hour with nbcs katy tur, out at trump tower in new york covering the presumptive nominee. So much to unpack this afternoon. Lets start with trump laying out his strategy against Hillary Clinton. Youve been covering him from the beginning, youve seen his strategies play out in the prima primaries, little marco, lying ted. What is he telegraphing as that he will do to Hillary Clinton . Interesting, he doesnt telegraph his strategies or attacks and never done it to past opponents, but he is starting to telegraph exactly how he will take on Hillary Clinton. He told the New York Times getting nasty is not going to work with Hillary Clinton. He cant be seen as trying to bully her. Instead what he wants to do is make voters question her authenticity, question her character, question whether or not they can trust her and in order to do that, donald trump believes he needs to bring in bill clinton to the me lay lee y saying bill clintons past is relevant and fair game because of how Hillary Clinton reacted to them, instead of reacting on the side of the women, hes s saying she reacted on the side of herself and her husband trying to further their political careers more than anything else and he will bring up benghazi to cast doubt whether she is fit to lead and whether she has the judgment and using benghazi as an example of that, that she wasnt awake for a 3 00 phone call, which has been disputed and she hasnt told the American People the same thing she told her daughter, that was terrorist act. Of course, very early on whether this works for Hillary Clinton we have to wait and see. It is interesting for him to say what hes doing when in the past hes been so cagey and selfdescribed as unpredictable as to how he goes about things. Katy tur, thanks so much. Appreciate it. As we mentioned this weekend, perhaps a sign of things to come. President obama seemingly att k attacking donald trump without ever actually using his name. The world is more interconnected than ever before. Its becoming more connected everyday. Building walls wont change that. Its not cold and i dont know what youre talking about. Thats not keeping it real or telling it like it is. Thats not challenging political corre correctness, thats just not knowing what youre talking about. With more on that, nbcs Hallie Jackson is with us. Good afternoon. They there. What we heard from president obama, really his strongest case yet against donald trump, someone he didnt mention by name, as you noted but it was unmistakable who president obama was talking about during that commencement address at rutgers. He talked about the make America Great slogan, taking aim at the border walk, the proposed temporary muslim ban, what have become cornerstones of Donald Trumps campaign and president obama is eager to take on donald trump on what seems to be a referendum on trump and not so much president obama or even Hillary Clinton as we start this pivot or get into this pivot in the general election. When might we see president obama get on the campaign trail and taking these attacks to trump more directly . Sources are telling our colleague, Kristen Welker that will happen once the democratic nomination is officially wrapped up. Once Hillary Clinton goes from being the likely democratic nominee or presumptive nominee or once Bernie Sanders gets out of this race. What you saw from the president at rutgers at that press availability a week or 10 days ago was almost a licking of the chops to get out there and take on trump, somebody who the democrats see as potentially or absolutely harmful to the country moving forward, trumps team, ready for this . Ready to combat these attacks and ready to flip the script and turn them on clinton herself. Kate. Hallie jackson, thanks for that. Any progress donald trump made on capitol hill last week book ended by scandals dug up from his prepolitics past. As we mentioned on the top, rnc chairman Reince Priebus says none of that matters to voters . I dont think donald trump is being judged on his personal life, people are judging donald trump if hes someone that will go to washington and shake things up. Thats why hes doing so well. I want to bring is hugh hewitt now, conservative commentary and National Talk show host. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me. Do you agree with what you heard from Reince Priebus, that voters dont care . I did have rens on my radio show this morning, i agree this campaign is so fundamentally different its hard to gage who cares what about anything . Theres a great book out there by Clayton Christianson at Harvard BusinessSchool Called the innovators dilemma. Talks about the fact that customers are sometimes overwhelmed by innovators. Donald trump has innovated everything about this cycle and president obama and Hillary Clinton has trouble figuring out what to do with him as his opponents had trouble dealing with him throughout the primary. I am in agreement with Reince Priebus it is difficult to understand what the electorate wants. I got off a plane in cleveland to give a commencement address and a Senior Executive came over and said, my wife is with trump and im with trump and dont you talk down to trump people because we want an earthquake. Trump has a high 65 d disapproval rating, clinton also very high, 56 disapproval according to our wall street journal poll. What does the party want him to do when it comes to his personal affairs. Let me answer that in two y ways. I want to know who he will put on the Supreme Court and want to see his tax returns and how he will rebuild the navy. The Party Faithful want someone to take it to clinton. Every liberal is so sad. E for egypt, s for syria, s for the status of force agreement secretary of clinton blew in iraq that lost the peace and s for her server that will lead to an indictment for somebody if not her. What does get everybody excited is no holds bar take to it the clintons campaign. President obamas very divisive remarks at rutgers yesterday is an attempt to turn the page from his failure, as put out in Jeffrey Goldbergs atlantic piece in the New York Times piece on ben rhodes. He loves to talk about trump because every time he talks about his Foreign Policy it ends up being a disaster. I do think there is a part of the Party Faithful that says, go donald and turn the table over on media elites and Democratic Party strategists like you did on the republican party. Theres also an argument this election is about trump opposed to president obamas legacy. Normally when you have a two term democrat everybody would be trying to tear down obama instead of trying to win back the white house for republicans, instead were focused on donald trump. That depends where you look. Barbara boxer presented herself as Hillary Clintons representative over the weekend and was tlustily booed by the sanders people and she got angry and told them to go home. Right now, theyre melting down. Media want to focus on donald trump because he is a bigger story and Hillary Clinton is a godawful comment. Libya, isis colony and russia taken over ukraine and loss of iraq, and syrias disaster and the server which was illegal and will lead to an indictment. Theres plenty of time and the New York Times is trying to get a few digs in. On this network this morning, donny deutche brought up on morning joe, jeffrey epstein. If you Start Talking about donald trump as the New York Times did and history of being a playboy with women, you will end up with bill clinton flying around on Jeffrey Epsteins jet. Im looking for this as being unpredictable. I havent signed up for donald trump. I was wondering if you already had the acronym already. I have been using that acronym for hillary a long time, kate. Let me say what donald trump told the New York Times about his plans. He plans to throw bill clintons infidelities in Hillary Clintons face on Live Television during the president ial debates this fall questioning whether she enabled his behavior and sought to discredit the women involved. Is trump on the right track here or would you rather he not be going down that lane at all or sticking to policy . Hes shaping the battlefield. You want to make sure the battlefield is shaped. He has to worry about secretary clinton refusing to debate like. He seems like a guy who commonly says will not tell you about my strategy because i want it a surprise and he lays out the strategy. Youre absolutely right, he says he wants to be that way. Innovators disrupt everything and turn the tables on you and me on my radio show and you on your Television Show all the networks to react as they never reacted before. It got him 2 million worth of Free Television time and makes him the best in america and before long ivanka trump will start following her father and talking about her father. She is his secret weapon and has been since the beginning of the campaign. He will look to juice up the convention and im looking for a vicepresident ial pick that surprises as well, im hoping for somebody young, combat warriors who can talk about National Security inflammatory lots of surprises ahead. I was going to say with all those surprises you dont worry he opens a pandoras box and lots of surprises will come from the other side, too. Hillary clinton is not very good at surprising. She never surprised one of our foreign adversaries and why libya is a disaster and land iss colony. Maybe that will win. Its done not so well against Bernie Sanders. She lost 20 states against Bernie Sanders, at least one more tomorrow night and maybe two in kentucky and oregon. Well wait and see. Thus far, she hasnt impressed with her ability to move quickly or unexpectedly in any new direction. Hugh hewitt, always nice to have your presumptipective. Thanks. Notre dame bragging its the only university bringing people together since 1842. 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The New York Times is defe defending its reporting saying miss brewer lane was reported accurately at length and saying that the swimsuit scene was te start of a whirlwind romance between miss brewer lane and trump. I want to bring in jane and republican strategist join us on the set. Thanks for being with us. Let me start right with you. Your starting right next to me. Donald trump firing back with the coming forward today to the woman central of the failing New York Times hit piece on me we have exposed the article as a fraud. Thats the end of his beat. Will this be him able to reverse the narrative again . Im not putting that well but he tends to jump in on things that look like they might hurt him and make them a positive. He tends to go beyond the entity hes attacking and use it as a way to talk to voters. Hes saying, there goes the press again, theyre out to get me and having the backup of this woman coming and saying i have nothing to say about donald trump certainly pushes that point. Also look for him to have several women who worked for him in the past start showing up and saying he was a great employer. All that said the unfavorability numbers were all familiar with them for trump among women. Does a story like this change 70 of women who have a negative view of donald trump . Absolutely not. Its a real problem for him going into the general election. You can win republican primaries based off essentially male white voters for donald trump but you cannot win a general election without female voters. Thats not true, you can win a general election without female vote voters, the only person is george w. Bush and have to negotiate it down to 10 Percentage Points. Hes nowhere near that. Hes like 50, 60 points down. Even if you come back at them and say, theres holes in them or they dont show the whole picture they dont do him any good. He needs to start saying how he would be good for women and his policies good for woman how he empowers and supports woman how it mentions how he does as a boss, it equally is damaging in ways he constantly talked about their bodies and their weight and what they looked like even as employees. This is one drop in a large pull of stories and problems he has with women. When you read the whole article, it went on and on, big two pages in the middle of the paper if people havent seen it. It is a confusing picture that gets painted. There are women and testimonials who say he did a lot for me and helped me at a time women werent being advanced in the ranks of the real estate business and women, as jay mentions, borderline kind of assault situations. What are we to make of that kind of portrait of donald trump. Its interesting. I read that story and kept waiting for the explosive bombshell. What are they trying to reveal in this . There was nothing, no allegat n allegations made, lawsuit, nothing there except to show all these womens point of view. I agree this is not an ideal story for donald trump to be talking about because his problem with women 73 is a really hard number to come back from. The way hes able to use it, at least try and turn it on the press and talk about the credibility issue of the repo reporting is a way to 34mitigat it somewhat. This is not what donald trump wants to be talking about or should be talking about. The campaign has to move beyond this. If you were his advisor right now because thats what you do as a republican strategist, if you were working with his camp would you say stop with the twets and let got it and move forward . You have to know your candidate. He doesnt seem to be one that will do a 180 and do everything differe differently. What you need to do is start driving his schedule and who else is supporting him, like ivanka trump and have surrogates out there doing that. As a strategist one thing i learned you cannot change a candidate overnight. The next six months, is this what were in for. Thats morning as we were talking to hugh about we have donald trump saying what he will try to take Hillary Clinton down with personal attacks, is this what were in for, for the next six months . I think so. It will be six ugly months. The interesting thing from his playbook, almost taking a playbook from george w. Bush, the last republican to successfully win the white house and did so mitigating the loss of women to less than Percentage Points and did it by basically scaring women in 2004 talking about we are in a time of war and you need a protector and somebody that will take care of you. Donald trump to some degree is a hyp