President elect squaring off on the hill. Governor mike pence is in a lunch with Senate Republicans. Were expecting him to come out of that meeting and see if he makes in his remarks. If he does, well cover it live. The vpelect came to the hill today with a message for the gop obamacare is gone on day one. While president barack obama met with the Democratic Caucus in an effort to preserve his signature legislation. Both parties trading fire after those meetings. Donald trump said he will not cut social security, he will not cut medicare, he will not cut medicaid. Obamacare is a story of broken promise after broken promise after broken, followed by failing program, higher premiums, higher deductibles. To cut health care wouldnt make America Great again. It would make america sick again. We have a plan to replace it. We have plenty of ideas to replace it. They have no replacement plan because they just they cant they cant agree. They dont have the votes for replacement plan. Kasie hunt and hans nichols are both in the Capitol Building right for you. Let me start with you, hans. Pence is there at this hour. Youve been covering his meetings at capitol hill. What do you know about whats happening there . What is the goal that the republicans have when it comes to obamacare . Well, the goal is very clearly, and that is to harness a lot of the enthusiasm in here and channel that into actual policy. Now, thats the goal. Thats what he was talking about on the house side earlier today. Hes in the meeting behind me, the luncheon. Expect him to come out in just moments. Theres a difference between harnessing and challenging Political Energy into actual policy. Eight years ago president barack obama realized just how difficult that is. Now, there is a great deal i dont want to say giddiness but i should say enthusiasm about singleparty rule here. Republicans controlling the house and the senate. Now we get to see whether or not they get their message in line with the president they sometimes disagree with, a congress that has shown its willingness and a Vice President that has to be the interpreter between the two. Ali . Stay right there. Kasie, its the first cannon shot, if you will, in the democrats battle to save the president s signature legislati legislation. We saw it, make america sick again masa. Did the president give his fellow democrats an action plan . Do they have an action plan to try and preserve obamacare . Reporter essentially the action plan is to let republicans deal with the fallout from repealing the Health Care Law and not do anything very much to help them replace it. Essentially, the president came here and said, were not going to rescue the republicans or you shouldnt rescue the republicans if they get themselves in trouble. There obviously have been a lot of people who are very opposed to this law, but the reality is, 20 Million People have health care who didnt before. Yes, there are also people who have higher premiums and higher deductibles, but the calculation here for democrats is that, you know what, the pain that the republicans are going to cause is going to make them own part of this health care debacle. And youve already had back at the white house josh earnest, White House Press secretary, reacting to paul ryan trying to explain what republicans would replace the Affordable Care act with. One of the most articulate republicans is speaker of the house. He did a News Conference today where he was unable to explain why republicans have not put forward their replacement plan. This is a debate that democrats can win. Because of the impact that this that repealing the law, as republicans are vowing to do, would have on the lives of people and communities all across the country. Reporter the reality here, ali, is that this is a little bit like a game of jenga. If you want to repeal the Health Care Law, you can pull out key pieces, that mandate that requires people to buy Health Insurance, the subsidies, perhaps, that people who dont make enough money to pay for it receive from the government. The problem is, that makes the entire law go crashing down. So, it makes it very hard to say preserve protections for people with preexisting conditions. Its a popular piece of the law. Its something republicans say they want to keep. Fiscally its almost impossible to keep together if you want to fundamentally take this apart. They can repeal it with 51 votes in the senate. They cant put it back together without 60. Thats the fundamental problem. Democrats say they wont support that. I remind everybody, barack obama didnt like the mandate. He didnt like the idea that everyone had to pay for it until he was convinced by the actuaries and mathematicians theres no other way to do it. Hans, josh earnest makes a good point that they everybody says theyve got a plan. They say theyve got several plans but they couldnt articulate a plan. What is going on right now is that we understand that the Vice President elect is going to be meeting with joe manchin, senator joe manchin in a few minutes. Manchin didnt attend the meeting with president obama on principle. Whats going to go on at this meeting . Reporter ali, that meeting will take place right after we hear from Vice President elect pence here, moments away. Meeting with manchin, conservative democrat, from west virginia. On this whole notion of plan and what comes next, this is the policy process that paul ryan has wanted to reinstall into the house. Have things work through the committee process. In this case, the ways and means. I think youre very right to mention the fact that formulating the plan is always difficult. When theres political context, remember that great mohammed ali quote, everyone has a plan until they get punched. With that i think we have lawmakers coming up behind us. Keep an eye on the lawmakers coming up behind you. Were expecting mike pence to be speaking. We know that meeting, very they unusual meeting between mike pence and joe manchin about to happen. Well follow all that very, very closely. Its an unlikely warning for gop efforts to repeal obamacare. President elect trump fired off a series of tweet this is morning. To tell republicans they need a concrete plan or risk holding the bag for troubled obamacare policies. Trumps vp promised the new white house has its own plan in place. Everybodys got a plan, no one wants to tell us what it is. But only until congress can get a real bill in place. Joining me from capitol hill is republican congressman from oklahoma, tom cole who attended todays meeting with the Vice President elect. Good to see you again. Thank you always for great to be here. Joining us. I have to tell you, republicans have had seven years to repeal and replace obamacare. Theyve certainly tried to repeal it many, many times. Dozens of times. At some point if theres a plan, is someone going to tell someone about it or is it a secret . No, i dont think its a secret. I think, frankly, you know, part of the problem is were inheriting a failing system. Its already collapsing. And that was going to happen no matter who the next president of the United States was. Rates are going up, Insurance Companies are fleeing the marketplace. And youre aware, congressman, that rates are always going up, right . The rate of not the rate of increase has slowed. Not like 116 in, you know, in arizona, an average of 25 across the board. No, theyre not always going up. Certainly not at these rates. Certainly not with insurers actually leaving the marketplace. So, choices have been diminishing. You have to recognize, number one, youre inheriting a system in crisis, not a system that was a functioning system. Going to be sustained. Number two, you know, i think the basic principles of what were going to do, that is, a marketbased plan, things that incorporate some popular elements are pretty clear. Also, frankly, i would look to incoming hopefully incoming secretary of health and Human Services tom price whos laid out a full bore alternative of his own when he was as a member of congress. And theres a number of competing plans around that, frankly, have pretty common elements. Insurance congressman, let me ask you this. I just want to put up a graphic. You wont be able to see it. Its from the kizer family foundation. Now, it divides up Health Care Costs increases between 2006 and 2011, a fiveyear period. And then the latest fiveyear period, which is 2011 to 2016. The first fiveyear period saw 31 Health Care Premium increases. The new one is 20 . You can slice this and dice this, but premiums across the board are not actually increasing faster than they were before obamacare. I think thats something republicans are going to have to face. I think, frankly, some of that is due to some of the things republicans did, which is, for instance, Medicare Part d d which takes in effect the first period which i think has stabilized or bring down the increase on drug prices. To your point, its a fair one. Its a very complex picture. I think Obamacare Exchange rates have gone up anticipationally high. Others not quite so much. Again, thats partly because of the nature of the population you have in those exchanges. Have you to remember, we have 9 million fewer people under obamacare than was originally estimated would be there at this point. We have 7. 5 million that paid fines last year rather than go into this system. Its got a lot of problems and its going to be complex to fix. Going to take some time. So, in the end, youve got donald trump saying, dont be caught holding the bag for bad things that happen if you repeal obamacare withsoluti. Have you mike pence saying, we ve a backup plan. The white house has a baup plan in Case Congress doesnt. We have paul ryan saying, we have several backup plans. Then you heard nancy pelosi say, youve got no plan. For people who are on obamacare, for those 20 Million People, for people who are living off their parents insurance, for people with preexisting conditions, something is going to happen in the next three weeks that is going to affect them. What is your word for them . What is your advice . Frankly, i dont think anything will happen in the next three weeks that affects them this year. The president elect has been very plain, and members of congress very plain, nobodys going to lose their insurance in the short run. Youre not going to see these things cascading down. A system will be put in place before we transition out of obamacare to something else. I appreciate your comments. Were going to hear from Vice President elect pence coming to the podium. Appreciate it. Thank you. Here we go, Vice President elect mike pence. I had the privilege this morning speaking to House Republican conference, opportunity to meet with senator schumer in his chambers and then the opportunity to speak with Senate Republicans today. It is 2017. We are back to work. And just 16 days away from when well make America Great again. The opportunity to be here with the leadership of the house and senate and to talk about the priorities of the president elect and to see the collaboration and the spirit that this Leadership Team has brought to moving the president s agenda forward is truly inspiring. President elect said many times on the campaign trail that he had a threepart agenda. Jobs, jobs, jobs. And the focus of our administration from the outset, after getting our team in place through the confirmation process, is going to be to focus on supporting economic growth. Repealing onerous regulations that are stifling the american economy, working with leaders in the house and the senate to roll back an avalanche of red tape thats come out of this administration will be looking for opportunity. Before we get to the spring and to pass the tax relief that the president elect advocated for working families, small businesses, family farms, really get this economy moving again. There will be a focus on infrastructure, a focus on board of security, immigration, there will be a focus on military spending, rebuilding our military and, of course, the president elect will be naming his choice for the Supreme Court of the United States. But as i said today, to members of the senate, that the first order of business is to repeal and replace obamacare. Obamacare has failed. And th American People have sent a decisive message to washington, d. C. That they want obamacare to be repealed and replaced with Health Care Reform that will lower the cost of Health Insurance without growing the size of government. Were working very closely with the Senate Leadership on a budget resolution that will begin the process of repealing obamacare and also create a framework for replacement going forward. Were also working on a series of executive orders that the president elect will put into effect to ensure that there is an orderly transition during the period after we repeal obamacare to a marketbased Health Care Economy in america. Look, obamacare has failed. The promises of obamacare have all been proven to be false. I was here in a different capacity in march of 2010. When we were told if you like your doctor, you can keep it. Not true. If you like your Health Insurance, can you keep it. Not true. We were told the cost of Health Insurance would go down if obamacare became law. Not true. Right now the American People are laboring under extraordinary increases in premiums. The average deductible for a bronze policy today is 12,000. And American Families have seen an increase in premium of 5,000. And this year, the average premium increase on families has been 25 , over 100 in some american states. That all comes to an end when we set into motion the effort to repeal and replace obamacare. What i can assure you and the American People is that president elect donald trump is a man of his word. He campaigned on a broad range of policies to make America Great again, have america prospering again, standing tall in the world again, honoring our most cherished constitutional principles. The first order of Business Today for the president elect, and im grateful for the leaders of the house and the senate, is to keep our word to the American People. To repeal and replace obamacare with Health Care Reforms that, again, will focus on lowering the cost of Health Insurance without growing the size of government. The policies well be developing in the months ahead, but president elect strongly supported efforts popularly advanced in congress in years past, Health Savings account allowing americans to purchase Health Insurance across state lines, Association Health plans, the architecture of the replacement of obamacare will come together as it should, throughout legislative process in the weeks and months ahead. But the American People voted for change in november and the president elect and i working with the leaders of the house and senate are determined to keep our promise to the American People. That all begins with repealing and replacing the failed policy of obamacare. [ inaudible ] im sorry, i didnt hear the first part of your question. [ inaudible ] reporter republicans will own it if you are you prepared to own the fallout . I think the most important thing for the president elect and leaders here in congress is we keep our word to the American People. Obamacare has failed. All the promises of obamacare have been shown to be false and broken promises. The American People want us to start over, to repeal obamacare and replace it with the kind of reforms that will give the American People more choices. When it comes to Health Insurance. Releasing the power of the free market is the pathway towards expanding access and affordability of health care across this country, and the American People know it. But, you know, the simple fact is, the American People know who owns obamacare. Its the first half of the title. It is obama and the party of obama. What president elect trump and i and the leaders in the congress are determined to do is to keep faith with the American People who have who have voted in this past historic election, both in the president ial election and in elections here in the congress of the United States to give us the majorities and to give us the control of the white house to make good on that promise. Reporter on the president elects yesterday said on tv that nobody has insurance now under obamacare will go without it. Is that y