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Those in the recent past. Plus the republicans have the votes in the house and the senate and the white house to keep government open. I dont understand why democrat are playing politics just because donald trump is in office. The blame game, as a government shut down looms, what has to happen in the next few days to avoid that this friday. Free speech battle. In this hour, someone in the middle of a twitter battle over conservative ann coulters right to speak the university and their ability to stop her. And new polls showing trump to be the least popular president in modern times. The Washington Post and abc poll shows 42 approve of his job performance. The same in the msnbc wall street poll that is down four points since february. But one bright spot, 62 support his military action in syria following the chemical attack earlier this month. New reaction from the Trump Administration on whether the president will insist on funding a border wall in the spending bill. That is Something Congress has to pass in order to avoid a government shut down this week. Their holding hostage National Security against something theyve supported in the recent past when president obama was in the senate. Hell do the right thing for sure, but i will suspect he will be insistent on the funding. I know you have a busy week ahead of you. The government is going to stay open. I believe it will. President trump tweeting, obamacare is in serious trouble and other wise it dies far sooner than anybody would have thought. It appears to be in reference to comments by Nick Mulvaney on a proposal that would put 1 of funding toward obamacare for every dollar toward building the border wall. But democrats are pushing back on this and other proposals today. It is a political stunt and session for the president that should not shut down our government. That is the height of irresponsibility. He would not want that to define his first 100 days. Republicans have the votes in the house and the senate and the white house to keep government open. The burden to keep it open is on the republicans. Meanwhile, on issue of socalled dreamers being deported, it appears one Administration Official is at odds with another. Lets take a listen. Would tell the illegal migrant community, if you are simply here illegally, we dont really have the time to go after you. Were looking for bad men and women. There is no doubt the president has sympathy for young people who were brought here the early ages. So they could rest easy . Well, well see, i believe that anyone who enters the country unlawfully is subject to being deported. And nikki haley will bring the entire Security Council to the white house tomorrow to meet with President Trump. And nbc Kelly Odonnell is there for us today. With a good debut, what all could you tell us about the meeting. The words unprecedented and unusual have been put forward and nikki haley is the president of the Security Council, that is a rotating position and were told by the white house she is bringing to the president and to blair house, which is of course one of the meeting rooms and residences next to the white house, the 15 members of the u. N. Security council. Theyll be some social time, some meetings with members of congress as well as dining with the president. This stands out because the president has been very critical of the United Nations and it comes at a time when north korea is dominating so much of our coverage and the international conversation. And north korea is an issue that the u. N. Security council can, may, should take up as they have in the past. China has been, of course, a key factor in that with its sort of protection and alliance with the North Koreans. So this is a way for nikki haley to show her diplomacy and also to do sort of more retail politics that may better reflect her former time as governor of south carolina. Bringing people together. It also is key because of the 100 day report card which of course is next saturday. 100 days in office for President Trump. And the white house is clearly building into the schedule this week a number of what i would say highprofile, sometimes unusual, standout events and topics that they are going to drive forward this week to show the president s leadership. So yes, a critic of the United Nations but willing to meet with and talk with and see if he could have some kind of connection that might produce some benefit for the United States with the u. N. Security council. So it is something to watch. It is unusual. And it is part of a week where we might be using those words again. Something different and unusual as the 100 day marker rolls toward us. Now the president had called it a ridiculous standard, and yet today the white house is embracing the fact that the 100 days pardon me is coming, and that people will be making assessments, taking a snapshot of the performance of the president thus far and they want to expand beyond legislation because we know legislation has been a real stumbling block for the white house. Even with a republican congress. So other kinds of things that the president can do to demonstrate leadership and direction for the country. Well be seeing a lot of that. And i think this falls into that category. Alex. I would agree with you. I usually do. Thank you very much for that. And now in the showdown over the government funding. Aliza collins from u. S. Today and kevin surrely from bloomberg news. Well go ladies first with you aliza, so the fight on the deal for government funding could be on track to deadlock over money for the border wall. Why is this such a Sticking Point this week. This is something that President Trump camed on. This is voters who this is something they expect but he said mexico is going to pay for it. And there is new numbers coming out over the last couple of weeks that look like this wall could be somewhere between 20 billion to 70 billion, which is a lot of money and i think that is giving democrats a little bit of momentum in saying were not doing this. This is something weve been against the whole time. You said mexico was going to pay it and oh, look it is even more money than we thought it would be and they have power in the negotiation because he is not insisting on the wall funding, then this could be a good, smooth, government funding. And we heard time and time again that mexico would be paying for the wall and it turns out that is not really the case. And i would agree with aliza, this is unprecedented that we are just a couple of days away from the april 28th deadline in which Republicancontrolled Congress has to pass some kind of partial Government Spending bill in order to avert a government shut down. Alex, this comes aday before the 100 day marker so any source that im speaking with, tells me, republican or democrat, they dont want to have any type of government shut down this week. But on monday night, the House Freedom caucus, within the house of representatives, they are having a meeting and talking about this. And another thing they are talking about, health care under a lot of rumbles and speaker ryan down playing over the last couple of days whether or not there will be a vote on health care this week. However, that is also going t be a major topic of discussion come on monday night and leading is week in congress. You have to wonder how frustrating it is to be in congress. If you have something come out of the white house and you dont think that will happen this week. The timing is what is not syncing up. I wan to ask you, kevin, the California Attorney general said if congress cant pass a funding bill, dont blame the democrats. You cant do it. Take alook. If the majority doesnt have the act today and that is where you find a government shut down in the making. So if we dont have a budget in place, it is not because of a border wall, it is because republicans cant get it together. They have the house, senate and the white house, and does he have a point . What is interesting here is just how much the House Freedom caucus and the conservatives will push for this. Because quite frankly there is a divide, alex, on this particular funding fight, there are many republicans, including the sores that im speaking with in the tea party movement, who say, hey, wait a minute, the way this administration is governing doesnt aplialign by his campai and whether trump could serve as a political referee of sorts to unify this Party Heading into the last week. For the first 100 days. Aliza, lets take a look ahead to tomorrow and what are you watching for in in unusual u. N. Security Council Meeting over lunch tomorrow, all 15 members. We have to watch for how President Trumps comes out of this. He is critical about the u. N. As kelly brought up before and what are they going to talk about. This is an unprecedented time, going on with north korea and russia and china and how are they going to come out as a united front, is trump going to praise the u. N. This is a smart move by nikki haley to say, bring it altogether and have everybody talk about it. But were going to look at what President Trump says and again kevin mentioned the first 100 days, hes looking for some wins. And talking about this, it is an unprecedented move, how does he react to meeting with all of these people. In terms of details, kevin, is there an element that could be more about symbolic lines, more about image than substance. This is a win for nikki haley and this shows she is a factor in terms of crafting Foreign Policy for this administration. And going to be one of the driving forces within the adminiraon on it. But second point that i would make is that this administration has been working hands in hand with the chinese. The china president jinping to put economic pressure on the chinese to deal with north korea. So in terms of military operations on the table, top government officials including mike pence saying that military options are still on the table but economically speaking there are definitely other avenues this administration is also pursuing through the chinese. Your reaction to the new polls for the president s first 00 days. We got the poll which is one of several showing the president s Approval Rating to be the lowest of any president at this point in the first term. What is leading people to give him historically low Approval Ratings. Im go to you first aliza. Weve had low ratings, he had low ratings through the kacampan coming in. And these are lower than in his early president. He got judge gorsuch which is something the white house is very proud of and republicans are satisfied with and he signed a bunch of executive orders but other than that, there is not a lot of legislation he can show. So some people are frustrated saying, look you have rkz republicans in congress and a republican president and a health care, you promised and how is that not happening. And President Trump in general is a divisive person and so you are seeing democrats that are not being on board and i think that the poll shows that the independents and people that backed him are sort of moving away from him. Kevin, your thoughts. Quickly, i would say that all of the polls wont matter if he is able to number one keep the government open and number two if he could unify the base in terms of fixing obamacare. But the second thing that i would note is that look, if there is one thing the election taught us, you cant believe the polls. Okay. Good to see you both. Aliza and kevin, thank you so much. Have a good sunday. Happening now, voters in france are casting their ballots as we give you a live look there. It is certainly a hotly contested race. These are the top four candidates and they range from extreme left to right. The top two vote gerts will compete on a runoff. Le pen and macon are leading the pack and we have the very latest on this. Good to have you on the broadcast, my friend. We have three days since the attack there now. This election day, first of all, is there a sense the city is on edge, the country is on emdge o not . I think people are nervous, but the turnout for the votes suggest they are not staying away from the polls. They are not so nervous they are not voting. Turnout now is just as high as it was in 2012 where we didnt have any terrorist attacks in the immediate past. So i think that people may have been nervous. But they are also thinking that this is a very important election. And in fact, abstention is much, much lower than many people feared before the terrorist attack. You are talking about turnout and it is low and how might that effect who do you think benefits most from that . Im sorry, alex, there is a siren going by. I couldnt hear the question. We did hear that. Quite profoundly. And the fact that there is abstention and not as many people are voting, who might that effect. Who has the most committed base and i would say that is Marine Le Pen. If we look at the numbers, who is turning out where, we see that in what you call le pen country in the south and rural france, turnouts are much higher than usual. Whereas in the sort of suburbs where there are a lot of migrant communities, the turnout is low. In it paris, it is sort of average but on the low side. So i think probably right now what we know about the turnout suggests that Marine Le Pen is in a pretty good position to get into the second round. But we dont have any idea about is who is the other candidate. Now christopher, remind me, if someone were to get over 50 of the vote, does that mean there is no need for a second round on may 7th and is that possible today with 11 candidates in the field . It is almost impossible. I mean, nobody ever talks about anybody getting 50 of the vote plus o vote in the first round in this country. Yeah, that would be a huge surprise and the only person who looks in a position to do that would be Marine Le Pen which would be a more huge surprise and terrify a lot of people because the political wisdom is that she has a solid base that will get her between 35 and 40 and 45 of the vote in the second round but basically convincingly defeated in the second round. Ive never believed that that was such a sure bet. But if she were to get it in the first round, all bets would be off. So if you are a betting man, and weve learned from our election that all bets should be off, but that being the case, Marine Le Pen and emanuel macon, what is the likelihood that these two are the top vote getters once the polls close in an hour and 45 minutes from now. That is what weve been told for quite a while and the last polls allowed to be taken on friday show that macon actually had extended his lead by a full point over Marine Le Pen. Well that is great. But the problem is that we do have a lot of undecided voters in this country. You have a long tradition of people lying about who they will vote for and saying they are undecided when they know perfectly who they will vote for and that creates a situation where we could say polls were unreliable in the United States and britain and they are really unreliable here. We just cant be sure. But if i have to bet, i would say it would be macron and le pen. But injuyour your descrip of people not saying who they are voting for, that sounds familiar. Like what happened to us. Avoiding the government shut down by the end of the week. What sort of negotiations are going on that you dont know about. That could lead to a compromise. Ill ask a democratic member of congress. 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And that was California Republican congressman darrell issa backing President Trump s insistence on getting funding for the border wall but he stopped short of whether it is worth shutting down the government over. Joining me now, denny heck, a member of the house Intelligence Committee. Welcome to the broadcast. Well hear the status of the negotiations, what are they and do you think the government shuts down this week or not. Eople are hard at work this week. It would be a act of malpractice on the maam ort of the republicans. They are in charge of the house and the senate and the white house. And you know, at the end of the day, this could be so easily avoided, all they have to do is pass a continuing resolution and top their demands with these poison pills and these riders. I tend to sus pent suspect it would not happen, it would be an act of political suicide. And your reaction to a tweet this morning saying that obamacare is in serious trouble, the demes need big money to keep it going, otherwise it dies far sooner than anyone thought. And after the comments by Nick Mulvaney after there was a propose add that would put one dollar of funding toward obamacare toward

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