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That delay, that gap is it really interesting. Because we know this isnt the only information that american intelligence had about possible russian attempts to influence the election. So there it were other channels coming in at the same time. Also highlights the degree to which the fbi was put in an almost impossible position later in the campaign. We know they had this information or some of this information. We knew there was the Ongoing Investigation into Hillary Clintons emails. You have the fbi essentially meant to it be a nonpolitical organization in possession of damming fascinating pieces of evidence, if not smoking guns, in either case, trying to decide how to play it, how aggressively to pursue their investigation and what political risks there are for a nonpartisan Law Enforcement agency to be perceived as putting its fingers on the scale if any of this nfrngs came out in the last few weeks. Again, another piece, not the full picture, but justins to provide context for house r how fast moving and complex this was in the final weeks and months of the campaign. Garrett, thanks so much. Stay with us. Matt, one of the reporters who going to join us to talk more about it. Joining me now is one of the president s fear es critics. Congressman Maxine Waters great to have you on this saturday. Thank you. Let me talk about this interview this week wide ranging spontaneous interview that lasted about 30 minutes. Whats your reaction to the substance broadly of what they discussed . Well, first of all, its very interesting that the president sat with the New York Times journalists without any of his aides, anybody around, and he said over and over and over again there has been no collusion. He has a way of repeating things over and over again so as to believe and make others believe that somehow he knows what hes talking about. And he believes the more you say it, the more you can make people believe it. So he used a lot of that time simply repeating that there was no collusion. The other thing that was very interesting about this interview was the fact that he tried to say he thought that mueller would treat him fairly. I think that what hes doing is hes trying to say im not a part of what is going on to try to undermine mueller. Im not a part of trying to get him fire. Im not with fox news and those republicans who are basically trying to discredit him. See, i think he might be treating me fairly. Least tricky. You cant believe anything he has to say. So that interview was very interesting. But i think the New York Times gave him too much time to basically get his story out there and say whatever he wanted to say without being challenged. And so i hope that the New York Times will not allow him to misuse the time like that. I want to read something here from the white house, rather white House Counsel ty cobb, writing, we are not commenting on matters. We are continuing to fully cooperate with the Special Counsel in order to help complete their inquiry expeditiously. Congressman waters, i know you were one of the signatures to Rob Rosenstein commenting the Mueller Investigation expressing concern with continued independence. Let me quote. We write to express our work for the Special Counsel mueller and to urge you he be insured to continue his investigation. We saw the rhetoric tick up over the last week. Other letters like this one from republican and democrat administrations. How worried are you at this point about the independence of that investigation and its continuation . Well, i organized that letter of 171 members of the house of representatives. I was so alarmed at what i was seeing. All of a sudden, you had what was a coordinated effort by fox news and some of the republicans to try and dis credit mueller. It was obviously of what they were trying to do. They felt perhaps that he was getting too close to the white house, too close to the president. And so they decided to una shame he hadly go after him. And i think thats, you know, putting us into a constitutional crisis. If we allow that to happen. Sorry to interrupt you. Can congress do more, more than you and your colleagues can do to protect that investigation . Well, you know, all that we can do is to make sure that we push back, that we resist this kind of effort. We have to get out to the public, and let them know what is going on. Because we are in the minority, the democrats, we cant expect any help from the republicans, so weve got to use whatever Bully Bull Pit we may have to say look Whats Going On, these people are lying. How can you let them get away from that and get Public Opinion pushing back on this. We saw some subpoenaing of records douche bank, let me read from a letter that you wrote back in march of this year. You said potential magnitude of the bank, what do you think investigators are going to find when they look at president s trumps bank . Well, we know a lot about it. First, Tas Money Landering Bank thats been fined for Money Laundering. We also know no other bank will lend money to the president in the way that deutsch bank is doing. They even allowed soninlaws mother to borrow money from deutsch bank. Why is it deutsch bank is so liberal in making sure he has the money that he needs . As a matter of fact the money that helped to fninance that hotel in waesshington d. C. Whic we think came from deutsch bank. So we think there is a relationship there that should be looked at. We should understand more about it. Because when you look at manafort and the president and deutsch bank and cypress bank, Money Laundering definitely has been going on. What role has the president been playing in this . I think we need to know. This man, this president will not release his tax returns. We dont know a lot about his financing. How can we allow the president of the United States to go on the way that hes doing without really understanding his Financial Connections and his obligations and whether or not hes been involved with people who are involved with Money Laundering . Weve got to find out. Weve got to press on for that information. Yes, ive written To Deutsch Bank on two occasions. Ive written to the chairman of the Financial Services committee. Im written to the treasury secretary, and for some reason it seems as if everything has gone quiet about deutsch bank. And we know there were Mirror Trading where they turned rubles into u. S. Dollars. Why are they so quiet about it now . Whats going on . And im going to continue to push forward to find out more about this relationship with deutsch bank. Because i think it is unsafe orry. You are on the house Financial Services committee i want to ask about your impression Whats Going On with the house Intelligence Committee, one of the three investigations going into russia involvement in the election. We have seen back and forth between them how long it should continue. How much confidence do you have in your colleagues theyll be table to pursue that as much as they need to . And well get a unified report at the end . I have confidence in Special Counsel mueller. I think hes doing a fantastic job. Thats why they want to stop him. I dont have a lot of confidence in the Intelligence Committee of the house or what the senate is doing. They have been slow. They have not put together the kind of staff thats needed in order to do the investigations that are necessary to find out how to connect those dots. And so my confidence is in the Special Counsel. Tan thats why i and thats why im going to work hard to stand up for him and get my colleagues to stand up to push back on fox news to point where where they are being ridiculous and lying and trying to ignore the constitution and the relationship of the president to the Justice Department. We have got to continue to educate the public and have them speak out and write letters and email and telephone and say, no, you cant do this. You are not going to stop this investigation by trying to dys credit the Special Counsel. Lets look ahead here to 2018. Ill read one more quotation from the interview. The president said in response to the prospects being more bipartisan in 2018, we can do Bipartisan Health care. We can do bipartisan infrastructure and bipartisan daca. There is some blatant optimism from the universal. Do you think thats a new year in that sense . Common ground . No, its not going to happen. Because you cannot trust this president. He lies every day. Not only can he not be trusted, this tax scam that they put together where they have created a 1. 5 trillion deficit is what they are going to try to make up. In doing that, they are going to cut everything from medicare to medicaid to social security. They are going to try and get all of this money out of entitlements. They are even going to talk about welfare reform. Using that old scary argument again about those people who are unworthy, who are getting money from the government. No, i dont trust him. And, no, i dont think there is going to be any real effort to work with democrats. As a matter of fact, the Infrastructure Bill that he alludes to will not be the kind of Infrastructure Bill thinks about the government investing and making sure that our water ways are safe and that highways and our bridges are safe, et cetera. This is going to it be an effort that hes going to try and privatize and get the locals to buy into and help pay for and do welfare reform, take money from entitlements, all of that, no, i dont believe him. I dont trust him. I still am call can for his impeachment. Okay. Congresswoman, Maxine Water Thanks for joining me. Youre so welcome. President america first. How hes done and the Administration Action ns the first year set the stage for 2018. Disappoi disappointments of the year. And putting a lot of blame on the chinese, after oil to north korea, tweeted this, quote, caught red handed, never be a friendly solution if this continues to happen. China for its part has denied any involvement. Lot to discuss here. Joined by the founder of Brian Darling along with the former dna adam hodge, and steve here as well. Brian, let me start with you, do we have a trump doctrine easily defined . Well, i think we are getting there. Actually Foreign Policy was one of the reasons why i voted for donald trump. I am a person who worked for senator rand paul. I support a restrained Foreign Policy. I think that there has been a mixed bag, although i love the over all foreign policies. Tough talk against north korea is important to keep them in check. He tweeted yesterday about iran and uprising in iran, its important he does things like that to support Freedom Movements around the globe. Im a little disappointed in afghanistan and having more troops there. And i worry that people like hr mcmaster who are more hawkish may push the Foreign Policy in activist direction. But hes been consistent with rhetoric, Campaign Rhetoric and very restrained to date. Brian, are you satisfied hes listening to your former boss, listening to rand paul . We see senator tom cotton thinking on Foreign Policy. When you look at the views associated with rand paul do you think they are getting through to the president still . I do. I know rand paul is reasonably close to President Trump. And i would rather see rand paul than tom or lindsey gram. I think a more restrained Foreign Policy going forward, making sure we are not over using our military force, not Nation Building, getting away from Nation Building and basically taking back a lot of the policies that donald trump inherited from both george w. Bush and barack obama. Remember, barack obama defied rhetoric. Promised to get troops out of afghanistan and close getmo. Adam hodge, let me turn to you, they are talking about a Radical Change against President Trump. As you look back on the last year are there any successes you can point to . We have seen here in new york a lot of the north korea. What successes if any could you point to when you look at this president s Foreign Policy . David, thats a really tough question. I think you look, and one of the things youve heard mention is the president s rhetoric. That rhetoric has actually made us less safe. That rhetoric where we have seen it in twitter feed has brought us to the brink of war. Youve seen him roll back major accomplishments or try to from the last administration. Just look at the former President Obamas pivot to asia. Is that strengthened our role in what everyone acknowledges Fastest Growing regions in the world. We were put on a plats form to really exercise tremendous influence in that region. And President Trump has walked away from that entirely. He claims that hes going to talk talk with china. But if you look at the actual results and actions, there has been very little to speak of. So i think when we look ahead at the next year, its important that members of the Democrat Party actually hold him accountable and force him to implement some of the policies that are actual law. For example, like the passage of iran sanctions. Let me get steve into the conversation and look at the north korea and china policy as well. Draw again from the interview that President Trump saying to New Testament New Testament saying i like very much president xi treated me better than anyone in china. One of the two great days of anybodys life. Hes a friends of mine. I like him. He likes me. We have a great chemistry together of the let together. Lets contrast with bellicose rhetoric on his twitter feed. How do you square the two things, first in relationship, and the policy . One thing on chooiina, i got back from two weeks, we literally walked away from the entire region. Chinese should love donald trump because hes given them complete control over the fastest parts growing parts in the world. So i found it stunning that we have given up our rights on human rights but one of the most important regions in the world. Who you are looking to for guidance what this Foreign Policy will be in 2018 . I look at the op he had secretary tillerson defending American Diplomacy Under President Trump. Ill again mention the u. N. And role nikki haley has been playing. When you look at the administration Foreign Policy, who are you listening to . None of them. Donald trump im listening to. Because ultimately hes going to do what he wants to do. Hes going to move forward of the policies that he feels comfortable with. And we have seen the president contradict all of those individuals in his own administration on different subject matters. Thats just the way he operates. So im going to listen very closely to rhetoric, watch his twitter feed, and we have seen him voice support through twitter feed to are this uprising in iran. I think that is significant and very important. Its been largely ignored by the mainstream media. All they want to talk about interview with the New York Times and him going off script without staffers present. All right. David the problem there. Quickly. That hes not listening to people who actually have National Security experience. Mablgt. Hr mcmaster is a general, and if hes pushing a side, that gives us more concern that hes going to followthrough and execute stg that makes us less safe. All right. Hes doing a much better job than President Obama ill tell you that. I disagree. Well leave that disagreement. Joining me this afternoon. Gentlemen, thank you for the time. And well be right back. Afi sure had a lot on my mind. My 30year marriage. My 3month old business. Plus. What if this happened again . I was given warfarin in the hospital, but wondered, was this the best treatment for me . So i made a point to talk to my doctor. He told me about eliquis. Eliquis treats dvt and pe blood clots and reduces the risk of them happening again. Not only does Eliquis Treat Dvt and pe blood clots. Eliquis also had significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment. Eliquis had both. And that turned around my thinking. Dont stop eliquis unless your doctor tells you to. 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