Trump is expected to speak in a few hours at the nations top gathering of conservatives. Hes likely to double down on the prevailing line of attack emerging from the political conservative action, decrying democrats socialists and extremists. While she wasnt there the star on and off stage was representative alexandria occasiocortez. Democrats have gone bat crap crazy. That system is socialism. That is why alexandria occasiocortez has introduced the green new deal. This is what stalin dreamt about but never achieved. Meanwhile the political and legal stakes for the president and his inner circle are now much higher after the bomb shell testimony of his former lawyer and socalled fixer Michael Cohen. He detailed allegations giving democrats a road map of how to shape their investigations, who to question next and where to fine some answers about trumps business practices. The last time i appeared before congress i came to protect mr. Trump. Today, i am here to tell the truth. He lied a lot. Hes a racist. Hes a con man. Hes a cheat. He didnt lie about one thing. He said no collusion. Questions have been raised about whether i know of direct evidence that mr. Trump or his campaign colluded with russia. I do not. This is so bad for our country. After three days of hearings cohen will return on wednesday to resume testimony behind closed doors before the House Intelligence Committee and the week after that trumps long time business associate, felix sadder will testify in an open hearing. Hes a russian born convicted felon at the center of the trump tower in moscow. And they want Allen Weisselberg to testify. He was mentioned repeatedly by Michael Cohen as the person who knows the most. Compounding this New York Times reporting that the chief of staff was ordered to give Jared Kushner security clearance. The chair of the House Oversight committee, Elijah Cummings now giving the white house an ultimatum to provide security clearances and documents as well as witnesses. Mike, good morning. Were going to see the president for the First Time Since the north korean summit. Will we hear anything do you think . Reporter good morning. As far as that appearance at the cpac conference is concerned we can expect a lot of red meat to s salivating republican base. You outlined the prelims they are giving and saying from the podium about some top figures in the Democratic Party and rising stars as well. Stars this investigation is concerned if you listen to Elijah Cummings, he says the white house is stonewalling in his request for documents about this investigation that hes under taken way back on january 23rd when he first wrote the white house asking for some documents around the security clearance process here at the white house. As you report since then that bomb shell New York Times report that the president actually stepped in and overruled top advisers in both the Intelligence Community and his chief of staff and white House Counsel recently departed don macbegan who did not want to go forward giving Jared Kushner that security clearance. A lot of controversy over the last couple of days about that process. That was on the minds of nbc news when Kellyanne Conway was asked at the cpac conference why the president went ahead and did that. Why would he tell the New York Times and these other organizations he has not meddled in that process if it appears de. You have to go back to what the president said. Ior team to negotiate peace in the middle east. All right. Looks like we lost that. Joining me now i want to bring in daniel litman. As well as our white house correspondent. Thank you both for joining us this morning. I want to start with Jared Kushner top security clearance. The New York Times reporting how the president had ordered kushners clearance and it cites four sources but the president and ivanka trump said this recently. Did you tell general kelly or anyone else in the white house to overrule Security Officials the career varts . I wouldnt do it. Jared is a good i was never involved with the security. There were anonymous leaks about there being issues but the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husbands clearance. Clear denials from both of them. Fallout been so far from this . I think we can expect john kelly to be called to testify on this matter. And, you know, he would be one oath and he wrote a memo at the time saying he was against this. He wanted to stop, you know, trump from doing this. I think youll get jared and ivanka called to testify. It will be interest field goal they stick to the same line or all terrify their story. Because they know lying to congress can put you in jail and i dont think they are willing to do that just to protect their father on something that he actually has the authority to do. But its embarrassing to the president when hes getting security clearance for his soninlaw. To underscore your time, john kelly and former white House Counsel don mcgahn were so aplarmd they wrote separate people months detailing the president s order. How rare is this for a president ial order top secret security clearance despite objections . Its extremely rare. You have President Trump who likes to, obviously, zig when others zag. Trump does not do things like other president s have done, other politicians have done. Its of great concern to democrats but a lot of other people as well. It was obviously a concern of chief of staff general kelly as well as don mcgahn. Can you just imagine the possibility of john kelly coming to congress to testify about this . Under oath . I think that would be Pretty Amazing and pretty explosive just on the face of that. President trump has said these kinds of things before to the media. Theyve been contradicted later from others. So this thing is not going away. That would be something else. The other major story this week was that bomb shell testimony from trumps former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen. I want to ask your major takeaways from those allegations. It was buried at the end of his testimony and closing remarks. He said if trump loses power in 2020 he may not go willingly. So, you know, he might get dragged out of the white house because he, cohen thinks he has an authoritarian mindset. It was interesting he was very matter of fact in his testimony. There was a good oped on this by john dean who kind of compared himself to Michael Cohen, john dean was, of course, of the nixon era and had to testify against president nixon and he thought there was a lot of parallels with you know when youre working for a guy you get wrapped up in the mentality of protecting him and taking a bullet for him. Now republicans on the committee they were not willing to defend trumps behavior in terms of writing checks to, you know, cover up mistresses but they wanted to attack the credibility of cohen. What was your main takeaway from that testimony . How big of a game changer was that . It could be a very big game changer especially in the back and forth with certain members of congress and the doors that were opened to possibly future investigations about potential tax evasion, about potential obstruction of justice. Theres a lot of new avenues or bigger avenues to now to be investigated, to be looked at by congress. More opportunities for Elijah Cummings to seek more subpoenas, bring more people into congress, people who are close to the Trump Organization. I would like to note also that you played the tape of cohen saying that he did not know of any collusion. I think thats pretty significant considering how close cohen was. So theres going to be some drilling down in that area as well. Something that President Trump repeatedly reminded us this week. Also i want to take a look at a crucial piece of evidence. This copy here is a check signed by president. Cohen said it was the to reimburse him to cover up hush money payments. Are members considering this as evidence, that the sitting president of the United States committed a crime and would that rise to the level of impeachment . I think they do want to talk about impeachment much after this hearing because they thought it was premature. But they definitely think of that check as, you know, part of the evidence to use typical peach him. I think everyone is waiting for and for the democratic investigations to continue. They only heard from Michael Cohen. They want to hear from more people before they decide if, you know, whether they should impeach trump because that would be a process that would probably tear up the country a little bit in terms of very divisive were still talking about the nixon era in terms of, you know, he had to resign. So this is not an easy process and democrats want to think through their 2020 implications. Maybe it would be better to run against a weakened trump in 2020 than someone who is off the table. Those democrats in the house there hoping to use that testimony we saw from Michael Cohen as a road map for investigations going forward. From the people that cohen mentioned in his testimony which one can offer the greatest insight into the missing pieces of these investigations . Im very fascinated by the people at the top of the Trump Organization that he listed. When i talked to my source at the white house they always told me that one of their biggest fears, not from was not from the campaign, not from his early years in the administration. But when cohens office was raided by agents and they went in and kind of pulled all the shadows and all the, you know, all the dust off the books that was in his office, because theres so much going back years and gathers in the Trump Organization that they did not have any control of. So for those people to be brought in at the top of that organization who had been working with trump for years if not decades, i think there can be a lot more skeletons that can be pulled out. A lot more to come. Thank you both for joining us so early on this morning. Two people who could become household names as a result of Michael Cohens testimony coming up. Ng up ah, the old crew remember when we all used to go to the cafeteria and just chow down midday . You mean, like, lunch . Come on. 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I think that the Trump White House and mr. Trump himself doesnt seem to have read the definition of obstruction of justice, or of perjury and thats about the best i can tell you. But its pretty explosive. Joining me now msnbc legal analyst danny cevalos. Michael cohen gave so much information. Main is coming back so congress can delve more into that information and lannys comments suggest that objection of justice should be a concern for the president , whether that has to do with james comey firing. It might be like ordering people like Michael Cohen to give false testimony to congress. I think that might be what cohen may be talking about to congress. Which is ironic because its a crime he was convicted of already which is lying to congress. So while cohen has credibility issues, he obviously is giving information at this point that Congress Finds so interesting that hes coming back for an encore. Cohen name dropped a lot of people in this hearing. The Intel Committee says they intend to call Allen Weisselberg before their committee. Do they have to show up and testify . Its not a surprise they are calling Allen Weisselberg. But Allen Weisselberg is also someone that weve all long known may have even more information about the Trump Organization than Michael Cohen simply by virtue of having been at the Trump Organization so much longer than Michael Cohen. What we know at this point is that Allen Weisselberg has immunity, but we dont really know if its partial immunity or complete immunity and the government isnt really volunteering that information. That may affect a lot of what Allen Weisselberg says or doesnt say if he comes to testify before congress. Could they make him show up, could they subpoena him . Congressional subpoenas must be obeyed. Congress historically has honored in a sense privilege, Attorney Client privilege, common law privileges. Congress is not required to honor those. On the other hand, a witness can assert the fifth amendment if hes subjected to possible criminal liability for his statements and thats why the immunity, the degree of immunity given Allen Weisselberg here becomes key. Since we dont know exactly the contours of that immunity we cant be sure yet what Allen Weisselberg will say before congress. You just mentioned the option of pleading the fifth. The president has said previously only the mob takes the fifth. And if youre innocent why are you taking the fifth. Will this move by the president s allies end up hurting the president . If taking the fifth involves not testifying about a crime that involves the president , then, yes. The president s statement is partially true because the amendment is about potential be against yourself. The reality of the fifth amendment is it protects us from being forced to testify about possible crimes. So the president is partially correct when he says thats what criminals take the fifth amendment and they often do. But if the criminality leads to you, mr. President , then you should still be concerned because the government and congress have other ways of finding out that information. I want to talk about one of trumps allies well, sean hannity. Hes finding himself a potential witness after an interview with the president where hannity claimed the president told him a dozen times he made those hush money payment decisions without telling the president. Do you think hannity just made himself a witness here . Yes. Anybody who cohen named or talked to becomes a potential witness. Just by way of example, another very, very targeted witness after the cohen could be not just Allen Weisselberg but trumps secretary, for example. This is the ideal low level employee and i mean that respectfully but lower level employee who really doesnt want to take the burden for his or her boss and is much more likely to volunteer information. So in that sense similarly sean hannity if he had a few conversations with Michael Cohen is not going to like the possibility of being hailed before congress as a witness, and hes going to tell the truth because he has no direct loyalty to the president. Seems everyone within the orbit of the president is getting drawn in these days. Our thanks to msnbc legal analyst danny. Thanks. President trumps reelection bid why it may have more to do with keeping prosecutors at bay. Next. We humans are strange creatures. Other species avoid pain and struggle. We actually. Seek it out. Other species do difficult things because they have to. We do difficult things. Because we