That is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. Lets be clear about what he is saying and what that means. Hes denigrating, hes talking down our democracy and i for one am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position. Donald trumps comments tonight have already been condemned by jeff flake of arizona, Lindsey Graham of south carolyn a. Will they reverberate by voters . Well see. Im joined by chris of host all in with msnbc, and former chairman of the national committee, michael steal, and msnbc everybodys a Political Analyst any way, i shouldnt base that, everything is. Hes the host of the how hewitt show, and also msnbc Political Analyst. Who i can start with . Chris well just go across here. This you know, there is the
im alfred hitchcoc. He was given the third world of idea, the sort of banana republican idea heads i win, and you get prosecuted, and tales you lose and im going to say the election is legitimate. He refused and said hell keep us in suspense. Its not showmanship, its dangerous his former campaign chair, paul manafort, this is the game they played in the ukraine and this is the game people who work around donald trump, played with it is election, claiming it wass was illegitimate. Its kind of frightening. Michael, youre laughing. Im not laughing, chris. This is the party of abraham lincoln, the grand old party who wont accept the results of the election. Its not the party i led. This is not representative of any nominee weve ever had in
media then youre going to he turnout in great numbers. The two hot ticks as to what michael said, if i were some enterprising reporter, din dino rossi, both of whom lost, in contested elections i think norm coleman was cheated, and din orossi. How was he cheated . They manufactured ballots after the election by the dozens. And Washington State they kep kept counting, and counting, and counting until they got the number. Both of them conceded at the end of the legal recount. They wanted to make the point, if it was so close this a particular state, i will fight like al gore did. He could have done that. He did not do that. He used language outside the norm. I can say that applies more broadly. It was so striking him talking about the Supreme Court justices and pro life, right . Most republican candidates dont just say i will point Pro Life Justices because everyone understands thats a subtext. They say i will appoint justices who will up told the constitution, because hes basically reading austin decoff cards, he accepts the top line, ill appoint Pro Life Justices. I watched republican candidate after can. They dont come out and say that. In fact, Hillary Clinton did the same thing. Thats right, but the republicans she said i had a litmus test. It is the republicans and judicial conservatives a litmus test is ipso facto,il legitimate. Who said they theres no one left. He is so unembedded in any sort of fluency is he gives you the top line off the index card. Everything was Airplane Mode until a certain point. All the sudden, trumps language on the life issue, on late term, certain the idea of aborting a baby a few days before birth, he didnt talk about spina bifida, he didnt talk about the concerns people have when they have tests in the fifth month. He didnt talk about the Clinicalcasions Th clinical argument that its bad, first of all, about this particular procedure, its not just late term, its a procedure. He i think he rang the bell for the pro lifers today. Thats why he did it. The delivery, that procedure describing the nineth month of pregnancy is called a cesarian. It is true, he i think donald trump demonstrated that he has absolutely 0 fluency with anything to do with what happens to a woman. Lets Everybody Judge for themselves. In pregnancy and hillary did the opposite. Was he talking about partial birth . Lets take a look. If you go with what hillary is saying in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. Now, you can say that thats okay and hillary can say that thats okay, but its not okay with me. Because based on what shes saying and where shes going and shes been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month, on the final day, and thats not acceptable. That is not what happens in these cases and using that kind of Scare Rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate. You should meet with some of the women that ive met with, women ive known over the course of my life. This is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and her family has to make, and i do not believe the government should be making it. Okay. I think Hillary Clinton, apart from the values question, it was surreal, the differences between pro life and prochoice, the real values differences and sometimes theres conflict and we have to deal with it. Hillary clinton never lost focus on who she was going after, women in the suburbs. She talked about the need for Gun Regulation to protect toddlers. Right. Shes not talking about the work of Marianne Wright edelman. Trump was working his base. He was working his base and not understanding the human bases of ideology, the idea theyre going to rip a fetus at nine months before birth that is a cesarian section. He didnt understand the issue hes talking about. To chris point, he hasnt thought about it enough, to have a conversant point on it. He did that all night tonight, where Hillary Clinton gave her the oosition to understand empathynd talk about specific
women and demonstrate the basic knowledge of what women in the fact and what they deal with. Donald trump has no empathy for women, thats the basic reason hes so far behind. He lacks basic empathy for women. Including sexual assault, obviously. Im curious what you guys thought of the heller discussion. Chris wallace eye w i was gla started with the court. Im impressed donald trump knows heller. I thought thats a crazy thing to be surprised by. This is the single biggest Second Amendment case. I heard pennsylvania when he was talking about. Thats the one thing he remembered. Yeah, yeah. Pennsylvania, indiana. What he was talking about on the lateterm abortion, the gossnell horror factory, when he was talking about very explicitly to Second Amendment people, what she considers
reasonable and what her Court Considers reasonable is not what the Court Considers reasonable accident and t, and the pivot to chicago made the point. It rang every bell for republican voters. The gossnell horror story, off the book, illegal illegal. Completely illegal, horrific murder chamber. The guy in philly. If he would used gossnell, the way he used heller, it would have been very effective. And he did well reminding people the rigged media needs to confront the project veritas tapes. And whats that . That the dnc Contractors Insighti Encited violence in chicago. If they are not talked about and debunked they will play into the media. Do you think any Credible Media outlet is going to use james okeefe who dressed up as
a pretend pimp who was somebody james okeefe he may as well as be from the national inquirer. Weve seen this before. The whole thing was garbage. I want to get the contention out. If theyre right if this is legitimate, what does it establish . It establishes that Democratic Party nominated donald trump and effectively dis thats absurd. Delegitimized him early. How would they get 14 million republicans to vote for donald trump . You have to own the people who voted for this guy. In your party, your voter chose him. Joy, this goes to thats the end of it. What you heard throughout the campaign particularly members of the 168, the leadership of the rnc who were concerned about the open primary process. The cross over of a lot of voters who have never voted in the republican primary, showed up miraculously in certain
states at certain times. You can look at it and dismiss it, but when you start putting together the story timeline, Ju Juxopposed To whats coming out lets talk about whats being stipulated. Is the stipulation the Democratic Party engineered donald trump to be the nominee of the Republican Party . No, its not. They worked actively to frame him as an extremist by provoking violence at his rallies and if you want to debunk that, you will debunk the rigged media. If you dont talk about it, you played into rigged media. Are you going to try to blame democrats for people who behaved incredibly violently at trump rallies . The guy who sucker punched the black guy, youre saying democrats caused them to take those actions . I will tell them to watch the
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from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race. I dont know about motive. I hate motive in politics. Its just a stupid argument, but trump makes an argument wed be better off Sharing Responsibilities in The Middle East with russia. And putin will play a role in the assad regime, well be better off than this endless war, were in the middle of with the sunni and shia. I did understand trump tonight, i believe i understood him when he said if we take back mosul, thats the shialed government of iraq. Here we have the wonderful support of and the thing king
abdulla has been afraid of all the time, and the sunis dont have isis, theyre going to have some other organization. When are we going to stop believing we can take sides on the shia, who have been Moraning Itnist more antagonistic. Is that how i heard it . It is how i heard it. Hillary is just doing the usual. Were going to have nofly zones. You cant have a flono fly zone you cant put planes in the air thats the problem. Theres no full exploration of what the nofly zone process would look like. Where are these airplanes going to be based . Where are they going to be based and how do they enforce it, particularly if theyre russian planes involved in all of they. Heres the other thing i was thinking about. How about any of the other Aircraft Fire . We have planes flying around over there. Who are we shooting at. The enemy of my enemy is my
enemy and my friend. I think its amazing you were able to take that melage and assembly them into an order where you could understand any i thought it was meandering. They understand trumpism. He sort of meandered around he was trying to remember whatever the last thing he was told by Kellyanne Conway. He demonstrated no conversant of the issue. I was thinking back to the 2008 campaign and candidate barack obama talking about how he wanted to have a different relationship with our enemies, that he was going to be the president to sit down with our enemies and negiate a deal, to because george bush, that bad bush, didnt know how to negotiate a good deal that got us into this war and im sitting there thinking that this is now sort of a flash back to that point. Here you have trump and a lot of republicans are talking about opening up a reproach if you
will with russia, recognizing their growth and their expansion in the region. Theyre now a player, youve got to play with them, and wanting to sit down and develop the relationship with them, and then you have this new establishment thats been created by obama and hillary, theyre like how dare you, how dare you talk to russia. So its just an interesting i want to interesting. Let me finish my point and ill shut up. Im not saying that that is the right necessarily the right approach to take, but i just find that our policy in The Middle East has changed to such a degree that it is 180 degrees from where it was when barack obama was talking about sitting down with the russians. Let me say this and i want to start with this agreement, which is i do think the rhetoric on russia from Hillary Clinton is probably tactically smart, but im worried about what it all amounts to after the election. I agree. I think we all dont want to head down the road towards
another code war ld war or war nuclear power. Arent you afraid, chris, joy, that hillarys just nestling up to a war with assads regime . For talks in The Middle East, we are 100 agreement on that. My problem with trump is his greatest passion and his most passionate answer tonight again was in his defense of Vladimir Putin. I think you can want what you talked about, which is a realignment, a reset, where we take seriously the idea of where putin can be helpful to us in The Middle East and not have the passion to defend him and the passion to defend his government and his efficacy let me just finish this point. The other thing is, there are 17 u. S. Intelligences agencies that believe in political espionage,
attempting to put their thumb on the scale for the election. Its not crazy that Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Campaign are not super psyche body that in this moment. Why does he deny whats been established . Why does trump lose credibility by saying this didnt come from russia . It was inexplicable. It was russia and the u. S. Intelligence agencies say it was russia. It is fact checkable. The active measures by the ffb, otherwise known as wikileaks is a very dangerous cyber a pack on the United States. The argument to be made by republicans is Cyber Attacks against opm, Cyber Attacks against the department of defense, which occur every day, Cyber Attacks against Sony Pictures v n pictu
pictures have not been responded to, from the meddle in tiddle ef he proposes and i think hes very wrong that we will right this mess by dealing with russia as a great power from the zarast area, as opposed from the soviet union, it is an argument to be made and i think democrats have to deal with the fact for eight years we have not defended the infrastructure or resem believing to allow us to respond to national security. I think were having a good debate here. Thank you, hugh, and joy. You guys have to leave. Were doing a little rotation. Any way, youre bringing defense and offense. Were platooning. Up next, much more republican reaction, the big News Donald Trump made here tonight, his refusal to say he would accept the election. Hes going to keep us in
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