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MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Alex Witt October 14, 2017

Good morning, everyone. Im alex witt here at msnbc World Headquarters in new york. 9 00 a. M. In the east, 6 00 a. M. In the west. Unraveling and dismantling. President trump went on a tear making a move that could scrap the Iran Nuclear Deal. A day after he cut obamacare subsidies, does that mean he owns the future of the u. S. Health care system . Both questions may be answered here on capitol hill. Democrats want a deal to push back on the health care cuts. Can they get it passed . This kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere, whether in entertainment, politics. New reaction there. Hillary clinton on the Harvey Weinstein issue. One of her most pointed comments directed at the oval office. But first, members of President Trumps own party are coming out against his executive order targeting a critical piece of obamacare. Subsidies paid to insurers, they pay out of pocket costs to lowincome americans which could income 6 Million People and increase premiums. It is true that it will have a destabilizing effect on our insurance markets. And i think thats the last thing that we should want. And may for some insurancers out altogether. My number one concern is the impact on low income individuals. Very proud of my executive order which will allow greatly expanded access and far lower costs for health care. Millions of people benefit. And the decision not to recertify the Iran Nuclear Deal. Calling it much stronger than President Trump thinks. Kelly odonnell is he at the white house this saturday morning with more on the growing tension thes between the u. S. And iran. With a good morning, you have key u. S. Allies saying they are standing by this deal. So what is going to happen . Well, there have been high stakes for this, alex. There are several countries signatories to the agreement. And iran is saying it wants the agreement to go forward. But we have heard President Trump as a candidate and in his early months in office describing this as a terrible deal. It is important to note he has stopped short of pulling the u. S. Out of this Nuclear Agreement but is taking some steps, putting congress on notice that he wants them to lean on the Iranian Regime while allies say to President Trump, dont rock this boat. Not a surprise. But still a striking development. Iran is not living up to the spirit of the deal. President trump chipped away at another obamaera policy. The 2015 deal intended to blunt Irans Nuclear program. Were very unhappy with iran. The president decertified the agreement, asking congress to consider new sanctions and enforcement on iran that would not scuttle the current agreement now but would send a message. We will deny the regime all paths to a nuclear weapon. Especially to irans military power, the revolutionary guard. The Trump Administration slapped new sanctions on the group but stopped short of labeling it a terror organization. Critics say the move could provoke retaliation. And reaction was swift in tehran. Friday, a different kind of defense. The president and first lady toured the secret Service Training center in phd and watch maryland and watched agents on the driving force. That excursion came after the president slammed the brakes on a central part of obamacare. Ending government payments to Insurance Companies that subsidize lower income Americans Buying Health Insurance policies. Angering democrats, while he is trying to court them. If the Democratic Leaders could come over to the white house, well negotiate some deal thats good for everybody. Reporter so two steps. The president ending the costsharing payments as they are known under obamacare. And also signing app executive order to allow people to buyin trade associations or other groups where people businesses can gettogether to buy insurance policies across state lines in terms that arent all the same things required under obamacare. Shorter policies, those not requiring all the services. That is part of where the controversy is. Some people say why now on iran . Tomorrow was a deadline set by congress for the president to decertify. So thats the action hes taking. And the sanctions and the other enforcement he wants are not about the Nuclear Program because that would scuttle the deal. It has to do with ballistic miss skpeuls terr iles. Steve bannon will address the value voters summit today in a couple of hours, one day after the president took the stage at this conservative convention. We know that its the family and the church, not government officials that know best how to create strong and loving communities. And above all else, we know this. In america we dont warship government. We worship god. Trump else former senior advisers struck a similar tone with his comments. Garrett has more for us. Im curious about the buzz of what you are hearing about bannons speech. I think he is allowed 10 minutes. Reporter for goods gigive m using my golf announcer speech because we have somebody on stage here speaking. The president echoed some of the messages that the former chief strategist has tried to hammer both inside and out of the office talking about the bunker mentality of Trump Supporters against the world, talking about some of the issues in the culture world that have been so divisive. National anthem, flag protests, things of that nature, attack the media. There was quite a lot of anti Mainstream Media sentiment here yesterday. All of that teague when bannon speaks today, the crowd will be primed to hear that message and agreeing with him. They heard judge roy moore, the Alabama Senate candidate here yesterday. Got a very big resepgdz. Very much sort of in line of the several days of this conference. The folks that bannon has tried to harness around President Trump, not just the Republican Party typically. Can i just ask you, is it being well attended . There are a lot of empty seats behind you. Is that because it is only 9 00 in the morning . The president spoke earlier in the day. The room was completely full by the time i got here at 9 00 in the morning. People very much were wanted to see the president. Most of the bigger named speakers were here yesterday. I suspect we will see the room fill up throughout the course of the day. A few hundred people. Not lines outside the door. But the president was the big key speaker. Okay. Garrett haake, thank you so much. Appreciate that. Joining me now is nishelle with the New York Times and reporter for the hill, kate. Just to follow up on what garrett was reporting. When steve bannon left the administration in august, he said he could shake up more from the outside. Yeah. Steve bannon now from the outside. We are seeing him support roy moore, who ended up winning in the alabama runoff for the senate election. He does have influence. The fact that we are talking steve bannon, that he stayed in the news cycle and he has had an effective role for the mod rats in the Republican Party, i dont know how that will necessarily translate. 2018 will be the big litmus test to see how much of an effect he has had. Looking at how roy moore mared, it is a strong point. It will be interesting to see how they will effectively fight back to keep the mod rats in congress in 2018. He has a lot he is targeting with his support next year. Lets move to health care. Does that put republicans in a tight spot . A number of them are concerned their constituents will be hurt seriously by this move. They should be concerned about it. A lot of republicans are concerned. People could pay more. They will be asking why havent you helped President Trump . What President Trump did . This executive order in this order in put the onus back on the party. They are the ones failing. While there are issues with President TrumpS Administration, where we have stories of chaos, stories of just hiS Administration being influx, i think for this story it makes trump look really good for his base. He is saying, look, im doing all i possibly can and my party isnt helping me. And what about the president having issued that to democrats following the executive order. In fact, lets take a listen to it. What would be nice if the Democratic Leaders could come over to the white house, well negotiate some deal that is good for everyone. Thats what i would like. Theyre a block vote against everything. Theyre like obstructionists. If they came over, maybe we could make a deal. Im curious how valid is this is, kate, because republicans hold both houses of congress. Thats exactly what youre saying, alex. Interesting to see, yes, donald trump is putting it kwron donal trump saying he wants him to negotiate. Whats interesting is donald trump has suggested that he might come back to the table and he might reinstate these obamacare subsidies if democrats concede some of the things he would like. We are looking at border funding. The border wall is what he is trying to get out of this. Donald trump, yes, did make progress trying to help obamacare implode. Yesterday was the most aggressive move we have seen of this. Democrats are going to be in a tough spot. And republicans will be in an even tougher spot. As far as the next steps for this, we have seen 18 states, washington, d. C. And some insurancers will be suing the Trump Administration for trying to unravel this. They will see some of the negative effects of this. If congress cant help to reel this back in, it will have negative effects for the party. A report from Reince Priebus was interviewed there. Any concerns for the president on that . Does he have something to worry about that or not . I think the president seat belt very worried about the mueller investigation. Is he specifically worried about Reince Priebus . Who knows what he actually told investigators. You think of sean spicer, who has detailed acts of whats going on in the white house, that has to bother the president. We see him being bothered by that when he talks about Jeff Sessions. Even though Jeff Sessions is getting aulg of this stuff done over at the department of justice. Hes still angry at the fact that he reaccused himself. Now it set this domino effect and got Robert Mueller involved essentially. I think what you are seeing is the white house essentially thinking about this, thinking about james comey that he wanted a special prosecutor to be looking at this case. Now that they have that, the white house is concerned how what is going to happen with this investigation. And i think its pretty normal. And i think for the next maybe even year were going to see each member of the president S Administration being interviewed by these investigators. Okay. Ladies, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Do most republicans agree with senator bob corker who says trump is putting the u. S. On a path to world war iii . Answers after the break. Now that we have your attention. Capri sun has four updated drinks. Now with only the good stuff. Do you know how to use those . Nope. Get those kids some new capri sun backed me up. Big time. Before movantik, i tried to treat it myself. No go. But i didnt back down. I talked to my doctor. She said one, movantik was specifically designed for opioidinduced constipation. Oic. Number two . My movantik savings card can save me big time over the other things i tried. Dont take movantik if you have or had a bowel blockage. 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Now the iran deal, the paris accord. Look, you probably agree with some of these moves. On the on face, he is just dismantling. He is not constructing any of his own policies. Isnt that a p. R. Program . He is the dismantlerinchief. We dont want an em peeral presidency. A lot of things that took place in the previouS Administration was too much power in the secretary branch. The thing that trump is doing that many of us are applauding, this should not be in the executive branch, the decisions on daca, obamacare. They belong in the legislative branch. Im happy about that. In regards to policy, we dont make policy in the executive branch. That was the issue that he is dismantling. Too much of that was happening in the previouS Administration. So hes doing the best that he can with the power that he has constitutionally inside the executive branch. But lets face it, to get policy passed, the republicans will have to step up and work with him. Alex, this is not a trump agenda hes trying to get past, it is a common sense agenda that benefits the american people. It really does. Its one of those things where people looking at him, yeah, haoe doi hes doing the right thing but congress has to step up and do something. Ultimately a lot of these issues here, how effective is the legislative branch . You can look back to 2010 on and see the lack of efficacy in getting things dup. Really what does he expect will get done through congress . First of all, it is the constitutional thing to do. Second of all, it puts the onus on the senate. You actually have to make hard decisions. A lot centers around the legislative filibuster. Will Mitch Mcconnell do away with it or not . I think a lot of us feel if Chuck Schumer was in that place he would do away with the legislative filibuster. At this point, you have the republican in charge of both houses of the congress. Exactly. And we see how in effective it is. I want to get to this well. Senator bob corker, the republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee saying he treated it like a reality show with reckless threats that could seat set the nation on the path to world war iii. Not one republican senator stepped forward to dispute that. Does that alarm you . No. Corker will not be in the senate in january 2019. This really is one of those theupbgs where you are seeing the situation between the establishment, d. C. Based republicans and the rest of the country. Based off his u. N. Speech and the other things hes been doing the last few weeks, donald trump has a very clear eye view of the world that we have to deal with iran. We have to deal with north korea now before they have these capabilities to continue to be an existential threat to the rest of the world. Corker will disagree. Thats fine. He wont be in the senate in january 2019 all right. But, ned, it is not just politicians that are disagreeing. I want to play what military analysts barry is saying about the threat of war specific live with north korea. Listen to this. The current language of the administration, the lack of a diplomatic and serious engagement strategy in my view has us sliding toward war by next summer. That is a rather ominous statement there by a military general. Shouldnt the president be doing a better job of avoiding the escalation starting with dial back the rhetoric. Isnt he largely responsible for what happens next . Alex, this is a failure of the three previouS Administrations, including the bush administration. That may be, but we are now front and center. Heres where we are today. You know why . But you know why we are front and center . They have failed to deal with what north koreaan regime has wanted to be an existential threat specifically to the United States. They are less than two ways if they dont. We have to deal with the situation now. If we dont within two years we could see American Cities under threat from nuclear weapons. It is one of those things that has been a failure the last 23 years of failed diplomacy. Now donald trump has been the can has been kicked into his corner. He has to deal with it. In regards to the rhetoric, listen, clinton used very strong rhetoric against the north korean regime. At the same time, this is a diplomatic approach. You have to basically threaten forth if youre going to bring people to the table. Diplomacy without threat of force does not work. I get that. Using the rhetoric like little rock et man. Really, ned . We know that irks kim jongun. Lets get to the bigger picture. He is dealing with a threat. I cant say this enough. We are on a very short run as north korea having the technology and the capabilities to be a very real threat to u. S. Cities. And donald trump is saying enough is enough. I have to deal with this. Some people might not like this rhetoric. 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