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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Campaign discussed Hillary Clinton but there was no meaningful information shared. A month later in Senate Testimony he says i did not tell my father about the Trump Tower Meeting. Then giuliani says today trump jr. Didnt participate in the meeting. Trump sr. , the candidate at the time. We werent alleging he was in that meeting so im puzzled by why he was going down that road. Is he saying that cohen says donald trump was in a meeting with the russians or is he just messing the spaghetti around the plate. Im not sure i heard cohen is saying that. As chris hayes posted on twitter, giuliani says donald trump did not participate in the russia transaction. Hayes says, who said anything about a transaction . Imagine a world in which a normal subject of a criminal investigation didnt talk about this at all and just went about their business. We wouldnt be having any fun. But this meeting is consuming so much oxygen and we are not sure what it adds up to in the end. One day we will. One day five years from now well be sitting in a bar going, remember when we were trying to figure out what was going on in that Trump Tower Meeting . The question we all keep asking ourselves every time we hear a new revelation in the Mueller Investigation is any of this illegal . Danny, i want to play for you what Rudy Giuliani said this morning about collusion with russians maybe not being a crime. Lets play that. Theyre not going to be colluding about russians which i dont know if thats a crime. Colluding about russians. You start an lying the crime the hacking is the crime. That certainly is the original problem. The president didnt hack. He didnt pay them for hacking. Its a confusing matter as a suspect or coconspirator. Two years ago or whatever we decided to call it collusion and stuck with that label. If we said conspiracy. Conspiracy or cooperation or provided assistance to then that would be more helpful. The prosecutor doesnt care what the definite may use in wording to describe his conduct. Its whether or not the conduct fits within a level of we brought up a full screen there. Donald trump has tweeted 76 types about collusion since becoming the president. He and giuliani need to talk about that. Cnn did a poll in which republicans agree the Mueller Investigation is a witchhunt. 77 of democrats say its a critical matter of National Security that needs to be prioritized. Thats weird. To some degree to Donald Trumps base, this messaging is working for him. Does it work if it gets in front of court or congress . Using the word collusion may be critical. Its not a criminal act. Maybe thats why donald trump is tweeting about it so much instead of calling it something else. If he gets in front of a court and its conspiracy or aiding a foreign government. Theyll look at whether or not there was an intentional act that may not get in front of a court. May be that mueller hands it over the congress in which case polling like this becomes relevant. Yes, because in the world of impeachment it only resembles a trial. The jurors are the senate. The most biassed juror you could ever find. None would qualify to sit on a regular jury at a trial. And senators are by nature biassed. Why the decision to impeach or not is not a trial issue. Thanks so much. Up next, the first government crackdowns on facebook and fake news are coming across the pond in the united kingdom, not in the u. S. Officials are saying evidents to police themselves are not working. The dow is down. The nasdaq is down 14 points the dow is down 103 points. I didnt think anything was going to work for me until i tried chantix. Chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. Chantix reduced my urge to smoke. I needed that to quit. 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This comes as the British Government tames aim at facebook over their handling of fake news and election adds. Joining us, anna shekter and ben popkin. Anna, lets go to the alex jones story. Whats his response to this. Hes come out its actually not been very effective. Hes put out news on his other pages calling this censorship. Hes not happy about it. He didnt respond to my call that hes using his other platform what has facebook said is this. Facebook says this is in response to specific votes on his page. Thats surprising since its coming under fire for seeming to defend holocaust deniers. Also his Chief Policy Officer is being grilled on the hill about alex jones. There have been an at love questions about alex jones. Both the Holocaust Denial and alex jones were specific conversations on capitol hill. Despite those conversations they take a different view of this in europe. I was about to say theyre better. But im not sure if its better or worse. They have strict laws as it relates to publishing and the uk and europe look at this as publishing. Theres a harsher view of it across the pond. We can thank the European Union for the thats why you have to authorize everybody with new privacy laws today. Right. This Parliamentary Group has been leading the way. Facebook cracked down. They came out with a scathing report on fake news and election adds. They have a couple of strong recommendations in there. One of the biggest ones is facebook has to be liable for the fake news on the platform. Thats means they have to take it down quickly. In germany they have a law that you have to take it down within 24 hours. They can be fined for leaving it up. On the speck rum of free speech kourccountries, america on one end, germany sit on the other theres a lot of historical sensitivities when it comes to Holocaust Denials. Hate speech. They also need to have their data and security and Algorithm Practices audited like finances. Thats what the uk government is looking for. Thats been the black box trade secret. In america, we are not just we love free speech. We also love independent enterprise and dont want to mess wit, be you thats starting to entire fear with our democracy. This report that ben talked about was largely triggered by the Cambridge Analytica stuff. How do you feel about how the report addresses those types of things. Not hacking but actual use of da that that facebook has on everybody . Its interesting to know the head of the committee in the Uk Parliament has a background in advertising. So hes really troubled by this. He was troubled by Cambridge Analyticas Role Purchasing Facebook data. Manipulating it to psychologically target voters. Hes really focused on this. This is why he continues to interview people, bring people in. He commissioned this report. Feels very thorough. Feels less politicized than other hearings in the United States. Thats right. Its a comprehensive look at the entire system. Its a really great report. If you wanted to learn whats been going on in the last two years in elections around the world, take a look at this report. We were talking about cambridge, but before that, about facebook users posting fake news. Do you see Something Different now . Do you think theres been improvement on that front as we are 99 day from the midterms . This happened with the alex jones case facebook, twitter platforms are trying to crack down on behaves that lead to the outcomes we are seeing. Thats where the whole conversation debate about free speech versus sensorshcensorshi out. Theyre not trying to police views. They are trying to police specific actions. Many worry its not going to be enough. With these guys its whack a mole. We are not going to have time to get into the what ted cruz s but at some point i would like to talk about it. Thanks to the reporting is you and your teams have done. President trump and the publisher of the New York Times are in a spat over the private meeting they had over the weekend at the white house. President trump revealed he met with the publisher and spent most of the time talking about fake news put out by the media. A few hours later the publisher gave his own version. He accepted a invitation to address president trumps deeply dangerous untrue and harmful. Im far more concerned about his labeling journalists the enemy of the people. Im worrying this is leading to a rise in threats as against journalists. Just after that, the president fired off four tweets attacking the press and journalism in general. President tweets claims. Actually, theyre just lies. The it have president , factchecking the president. Youre watch msnbc. Youre turning onto the street when you barely clip a passing car. Minor accident no big deal, right . Wrong. 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Likewise, i recommend investment in italy. Its a great place with great people. President trump made a pitch for the u. S. And italian economies during his Press Conference with italys Prime Minster a short time ago. He talked about how the u. S. Economy is setting record. While things are good economically speaking it seeps the president still cant help himself from mudky diing the truth. Listen to what he said on friday. We have accomplished a economic turnaround of epic proportions. He inherited a booming economy. The u. S. Economy is in its tenthier of growth. This is a period of recovery that started with president obama. You can date this to ten years ago. March 10th. So nine half years. Its the 10th year we are in. So thats that. The president also said this i am thrilled to announce that in the Second Quarter of this year, the United States economy grew at the amazing rate of 4. 1 . Wel welsh hes right about the 4. 1 . Im not sure where the amazing came from. This is the 4 line. Four times during the Obama Administration it saw higher growth. One time was even above 5 . Again, not that amazes. President trump also dipped into this classic hit with this one with the help of republicans in congress, we passed, without one democrat vote, the biggest tax cuts in reform in her our history. You have to think about tax cuts as a percentage of the size of the economy, gdp. When you think about it that way, president trumps is the fourth biggest in recent history. The last tax cuts dont compare to president obamas, 1. 3 gdp. Obama, 2017 and reaganss in 1981, the biggest in ten years. That brings us to Donald Trumps next whopper. We have added 3. 9 million jobs. A number thats unthinkable if you go back to the campaign. Unthinkable. Except if you look at the years of president obamas presidency. This is the average for the trump presidency. This is the average of the last 18 months of the obama presidency. We have equal halves here. Donald trump has created fewer jobs on average than president obama did in his last 18 months. So its not that unthinkable. The president moved to wages. Manufacturing wages are expected to rise at the fastest rate in over 17 years. Sounds good, but this is based on a survey of manufactures hopes and dreams about wages. Its actually not economic data. Its also hard to believe considering wage grout this is wage growth in the trump administration. This is wage growth in the Obama Administration. Wage growth has slowed significantly in the trump administration. President trumps trade wars with some of americas biggest Trading Partners could hamper a the growth we have seen. Joining us now, the chair of the International Trade commission, which investigation how unfair Trade Practices harm u. S. Businesses. Shes currently an International Trade lawyer. Deanna, great to see you again. Thanks for having me back. Now that we are in this trade war, whats your sense of whether theres any risk of economy as a result of it. Certainly theres a potential for risk. You have been talking about the numbers and theyre good, be you the tariffs in my experience are hitting small and medium sized enterprises. The companies that need to use steel to make the products that they sell in the United States are being hit hard by these tariffs. What does success look like . Forgetting we got ourselves into this trade war and imposed tariffs with countries we Shouldnt Have as somebody who wants to have freer trade, what are some of the things that need to be fixed . I would have liked to see them announce they were ending the aluminum and steel tear lives immediately instead of going back to zero. That deal is better than a month ago, but he could have lifted them immediately. That would have helped because it would have allowed us to work with our allies. Including the ou. Along with canada and mexico and we could focus on a country thats not playing by the rules, which is china. I understand the frustration about a concern grouch people that see a lack of progress and the tie donald trump made to that being about unfair trade rules. Bernie sanders did similar things during the election. How much have disaffected American Workers and their plight has to do with Trade Technology . Its such a good question. I know we had the chance to talk about it on a previous show you. One of the things that would be helpful is is to ask theInternational Trade commission, have them take a look at what the impact of tariffs could be on the u. S. Economy and those models can take into effect changes in technology. Because there are a number of studies out there saying that has a bigger impact than just the changes in trade wars. If wages went up, that wouldnt be the answer to everything because some jobs have been taken away. It was just a coincidence jobs went way because of lower technology and wages. With a trade policy, forward thinking for transformative trade policies, how do you ep help a startup . I dont support a policy thats always looking backwards saying we are trying to keep the same job and numbers and technologies. Youre leading some where interesting. To what degree of failure is turning miners into workers for a Knowledge Based economy what to the what degree is that about american or british policy where we rigged the benefits through freer trade, but somehow people got left behind. I think that speaks to the need for retraining. Retraining means i think theyre focussing on new jobls. Which means you look at the job numbers and say, there are a lot of job numbers out there where we need people with other skills than we have. I think thats a forward looking way. I think of these tariffs of being a world war ii. Its an old strategy as opposed to thinking about, how do we think about this . You know, in 201819 . I would love to be having that on a regular basis instead of a conversation about a trade war. Thank you. Shes a trade lawyer. Have you ever got up on the airplane . Gone to the bathroom or talked to your seat mate . You might be on the tsas list. Plus, well take you to the scenes of the Deadly Carr Wildfire in california. Youre watching msnbc. Why did i want a crest 3d white smile . Crest 3d white removes. 95 of Surface Stains in just 3 days. For a whiter smile. That will win them over. Crest. Healthy, beautiful smiles for life. And its time to get outside. Pack in even more adventure with audible. With the Largest Selection of audiobooks. Audible lets you follow plot twists off the beaten track. Or discover magic when you hit the open road. With the free audible app, your stories go wherever you do. And for just 14. 9

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