Correspondent Pete Williams in a most. Lets start with julia ainsley, nbc justice correspondent. Walk us through how we got here and how this displayed out. Reporter well, as you just said, craig, today is a historic day for immigrants, primarily those brought to this country as children known as dreamers. What weve seen now is chief Justice Roberts said the way the Trump Administration went about ending daca through the administrators procedures act was illegal. He didnt necessary have to rule and he didnt rule on whether or not daca itself was illegal. What this means is when Jeff Sessions, then attorney general in 2017, said the Trump Administration could no longer continue daca, could not continue renewals, that they would instead be handing this over to congress to make a decision, that that was an illegal way to do it because it didnt give enough time for those people who are already in the United States and, frankly, most of these dreamers dont know another country but the United States because they were brought here so young, it didnt give them enough time to make arrangements and, therefore, the way they struck this down was illegal. I will say, craig, that does leave room for the Trump Administration and some of the right wing people in the Trump Administration like stephen miller, ken cuccinelli, to go back to the drawing board and coming up with a new way of striking down daca, just like we saw in the travel ban, where they ended up with a third version that finally got through the courts. It does still leave that window open. For now, we understand the way the Trump Administration went about trying to end daca has been struck down by the highest court in the land today. Julia, stand by if you can. I want to bring in nbcs Jacob Soboroff as well. Jacob has covered this story from the very beginning, long covered immigration for the network. Lets talk about what this means in practical terms, jacob, for those dreamers, the immigrant community in this country. Reporter it really is hard to overstate how momentous and important this moment is for the hundreds of thousands of dreamers across the country. It will not be felt in a greater magnitude in any city in the country than right here in los angeles where there are 80,000 dreamers who were brought to the United States by their parents when they were children. Julia mentioned it. No matter who you talk to, you hear stories of young people, today not so young, who know no other life than their life in america. One example, Jose Aguillar is a barista at my local coffee shop. Ive known him for years. He told me he came to this country when he was 1yearold. Hes 29 years old today. He identifies as an angelino, a californian. Hes not a citizen of the United States. Youre looking at a picture of him right now. You cant understand what its like until you hear from dreamers. Here is what jose told me about what its like to talk to his family about this. Your mom and dad had a talk with you about who you were when they basically revealed to you you were undocumented. Right. Have you had a talk with them about what you would do depending on what happens with daca . No. Weve never actually had that conversation. How come . Im not sure. If i had to guess, i think again, i mentioned how i feel like my parents feel some sort of guilt bringing us here without the intention of putting us in this situation. Both of my parents are just like one day, one day, one day. Thats always our words. I think theyre just more on the optimistic side, that theyre not really thinking about what can actually happen. Its just more like lets hope for the best. Reporter the way he talked about it with his parents, it gives me the chills to hear about it. They talk about one day, one day, maybe this will change. Today might be the beginning. It might be that day. Just watching that and remembering what jose said to me, it reminds me that its not just the hundreds of thousands of dreamers, but over 1 million family members in what are called mixed status families where some parents might have legal status, younger siblings might be born here in the United States. These dreamers are faced with a situation a different type of family separation, taken away from their family, sent to a land they didnt know. Today at least it looks like thats not going to happen. Julia, does this decision add any pressure on congress to either solidify daca or come up with some other sweeping Immigration Reform, perhaps the dream act . Reporter actually, craig, it really kind of takes the heat off of congress for now. I spoke to some people who said they were at first upset when Janet Napolitano used to be Homeland Security secretary, now at the university of california, filed this lawsuit because this takes the heat off of congress, that they cant then theyre not on the hook to try to come up with a solution for dreamers. They said in the end it was really necessary that this gets over to the Supreme Court. For now, i think what we would maybe see is something more from this white house, that they wanted to try again for a way to end this program. At this point with Jeff Sessions no longer being the attorney general and with all the enormous mott of things this administration has already come to try to curb Asylum Seekers coming into this country, i dont know theyd do that again before an election. For now congress has the heat taken off of them. Theyre probably glad to have it. Congress hasnt passed meaningful Immigration Reform in decades. Its hard to imagine how they would get that done during an election year. Julia ainsley outside the Supreme Court, Jacob Soboroff in los angeles, thanks to both of you. I want to turn to democratic senator dick durbin of illinois for a moment. He serves as minority whip. He also signed a brief to the court asking the court to not allow President Trump to end daca. He also first introduced the dream act nearly 20 years ago, if our math is right, senator derbin. First of all, your general reaction to the courts decision. I can tell you its relief, but not like the relief 700,000 are feeling across america. Imagine if youre waiting for the Supreme Court to decide whether you can continue working as a teacher or nurse. Imagine youre waiting on that decision to decide whether as a medical student, you can complete your residency on your way toing being the doctor, wondering if your family is going to be split apart and deported out of america. That decision is great relief to me. To these people, by and large, 700,000 of them, its the sigh of relief theyve been begging for for a long time. To julias point a few moments ago, does this decision take the pressure in some measure off you and your colleagues there on the hill to get something to get anything done on immigration . Fundamentally it does not because the president has it within his power next week to initiate a new rescission of daca. Of course it will be challenged in court, but there will be a period of uncertainty. Were hoping the white house will give a reprieve to these 700,000 and saying there wont be any further ak shurn on daca this calendar year. 40,000 of those Daca Recipients are health care heroes, doctors, nurses and medical professionals on the front lines of this pandemic. Theyre an important part of america. The president can give them some relief by saying were not going to take this issue up for the remainder of this year. If he doesnt, if he decides to move forward, the only recourse is right here in congress. A bill has passed the house, a dream and promise act that can be taken up next week by senator mcconnell here in the senate. We can solve this problem once and for all. All right, senator dick durbin on the hill for us. Thanks for your time. I want to turn to jeffrey rosen, the president and ceo of the National Constitution center. He is also a law professor at George Washington university. Roughly 30 minutes ago, jeffrey, we heard from senator schumer, stood on the chamber floor. He said he did not expect this decision. What about you . Were you at all surprised . Well, ive gotten out of the business of trying to predict these close decisions. What is striking is chief Justice Roberts did here exactly what he did in the census case last year. He said the Trump Administration may not change its policies based on invented reasons. The crucial sentence in this opinion is the basic rule here is clear, an agency must defend its actions based on the reasons it gave when it acted. In this case the chief justice said the reasons offered were essentially made up to just phi a decision that was made for other reasons and we have to go back to the drawing board. In that sense here the chief justice was consistent. He believes agencies can change policy but they have to follow the right rules and procedures, and in that sense its a completely historic and momentous decision for just the way senator durbin was saying. President trump just a few moments ago on twitter called the decision, his words, horrible and politically charged. His administration, as has been noted here, could again try to end this program by offering a more detailed explanation of its action. In your estimation, jeffrey, would that be a whorgt while effort . Well, thats a policy decision for the president , but it would have to be a significant effort and would take time. Chief Justice Roberts said you have to consider the effect of this policy on the dreamers themselves, on the 200,000 people who might be deported. You have to consider the consequences for the schools where they study and teach, the employers who invested time and money in training them. Essentially you have to go through a serious hearing and a weighing of the cost and the benefits. The bottom line is, its not at all clear there will be time before the election in a way that would satisfy the courts. It has to go to the lower courts and back up to the Supreme Court. In practice, this may well have the effect of making it difficult, if not impossible, for President Trump to end the daca program before the november election. Reaction from the president , reaction from Senate Minority leader, now reaction from House Speaker nancy pelosi as well. Here is Speaker Pelosi just a few moments ago responding to the decision. Lets take a listen. The daca decision is something that supports our values as a country. The dreamers across the country enjoy more popularity than almost anyone, overwhelmingly, its Something Like 75, 80 of the american people, threequarters of the people who vote support the dreamers. A large number of republicans, independents, over 60 of people who support President Trump support the dreamers. So this is really we were just in such dread about what could possibly happen at the court up until last night, just if it goes this way, if it goes that way. But this way is the american way and were very proud of it. There you have it, Speaker Pelosi cheering the high courts decision. We should note the speaker will join my colleague Andrea Mitchell next hour as well. Jeffrey, people already talking about this 54 split. A few days ago we saw a 63 splis with chief Justice Roberts once again siding with some of the more liberal justices. What, if anything, can we glean from that . Its extraordinary. The chief justice has said since he took office more than a decade ago, he cares about the institutional legitimacy of the court. He doesnt support 54 decisions that are republicans against democrats. He wants people to see it as more than a partisan institution. He has certed his leadership of the court in the most dramatic way and made clear that he will certainly side with the liberal justices when he thinks the nonpartisan legitimacy of the court depends on it. A huge day for moyer ka, but a very big difficult for chief Justice Roberts and his vision of a nonpartisan Supreme Court. Jeffrey rosen, always good to have your perspective in situations like this, thank you. Lets turn now to justice correspondent Pete Williams. Pete, here we are. Another day, another major ruling from the Supreme Court. In terms of language, i know you probably thumbed through the entire thing. Ive only been able to thumb through the summary. What language stood out to you most from this decision . This is not a decision that has highflown language like the Supreme Court marriage ruling, for example. This is all about Administrative Law so the language is somewhat dry. The conclusion is a strong one. This reminds me of the Supreme Courts decision last term when the Supreme Court said the a administration wrongly went about trying to put a Citizenship Question on the census form and sort of basically called into account and said, you know, you need to fess up and stand up and do it right. I think thats really what happened here. Remember nobody disputes president obama started this program, not by an act of congress. This isnt the law. This was by executive order. There was never a question that President Trump could have signed an executive order of his own to end it. No question about that. But he didnt do that. You can speculate about why. Many people have said he didnt want to take the heat for ending what is in many circles a popular program. So instead the Justice Department said, well, it was illegally started because it gave these people work permits and so forth. And then the department of Homeland Security, based on that opinion, wrote a very short thing saying, okay, here is where were ending it. What the Supreme Court said today is thats not enough. If youre going to end a program that a lot of people depend on, youve got to do better than that. Thats really what the decision says. Craig, i dont know if youve noted that President Trump has tweeted about this decision. He says i have. Okay. This is interesting because on monday remember his tweet about the decision on the samesex firing and transgender firing issue was very muted. He basically said, well, i read the decision, its a powerful decision. This tweet now basically is doing it as a Campaign Advertisement saying i need to put more conservatives on the court. It was a conservative job roberts who cast the fifth and deciding vote in this case, craig. Justice correspondent Pete Williams helping us break it all down. Pete, thank you, sir. 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