Abused two exwives. The administration is trying to explain why kellys chief enforcer kept his job. This despite two sources telling nbc news kelly knew about the allegations months ago. You cannot beat the hell out of your spouse. It is illegal and it is immoral. Stepping aside in my judgment was the right decision by mr. Porter. There can be zero tolerance. Its one thing when an employee is trying to cover up some uncomfortable or disgusting facts from their background like this, but john kelly is supposed to know better. He decided the white male employee working for him couldnt possibly beat his who dont remember wives because he said he didnt. Without a security clearance, i didnt understand that and still dont. What general kelly knew and when he knew it is important. Im not going to comment about that. Im not going to second guess general kelly whos about a straight shooter as youll ever find in the government. Both women accusing porter have confirmed the account of their allegations to nbc news. Well hear from one of them describing that abuse in just a moment. Porter denies both claims, calling them, quote, simply false. But despite photographic evidence, hes defended him as a man of honor. Were keeping our eye on capitol hill where the senate could vote on a bill that would add almost 300 billion in spending. Theres not just no on the bill, but hes a hell no. Medical brooks of alabama will be my guest. But first, lets debrief with our team of reporters on this scandal surrounding white house staff secretary rob porter. Kelly odonnell is at the white house. With me on set is Vivian Solano and philip rucker, bureau chief for the washington post. Also with us, catherine lucy, a White House Reporter for the associated press. Kelly, i want to start with you. Lets walk through the timeline how this all unfolded tuesday night. The dailymail. Com put out the report, and in statements porter slams the allegations as false. Kelly calls him a man of sbru integrity. Fast forward to yesterday where he confirms hes leaving and Sarah Huckabee sanders tells reporters, quote, the president and chief of staff had full confidence and trust in his abilities and performance. And then last night nbc news confirms that kelly was aware of these allegations before the story broke. Kelly later releasing a new statement that says he was shocked by the new allegations. What were the instincts behind the scenes here . On its face, kasie, it would appear the people around the president were judging rob porter by the man they knew to work, many talk about his professional capabilities, and so perhaps they were leaning too heavily on that. It would appear that after photos became public showing the alleged abuse thats when john kelly adjusted his statement. What weve heard from rob porter, who we believe is serving in his last day at the white house today having submitted his resignation, and then given what was at first an indefinite period of time for transition, and now were told today is it. Porter has denied these allegations, but two former wives have each come forward with similar stories. They came forward in part because once he was nominated to serve in this high position in the white house, they were a part of what would be a standard background check where fbi agents speak to those who are close in an individuals life and find areas that are compromising. They shared these stories with the fbi sometime ago. Based on what we know, the white house will not say the status of porters security clearance or that of any other member serving here but it would appear he does not have the proper security clearance, may have had a temporary one. Kelly walked back a bit his prays for porter now saying these allegations are shocking. Theres a change here, but it really goes back to the credibility of two women who told their stories to the media. In this video from the washington post, jennifer willowby describes what she went through. During one of these fights we were both yelling at each other. I disengaged and removed myself from the fight to take a shower. And rob wasnt finished fighting, i suppose. At that point he was still angry. So he came and grabbed me by the shoulders here. And pulled me out of the shower in a rage. So her credibility has been certainly a part of this along with his first exwife. And they have certainly got the sympathy and the ear of many people whove been disturbed by these allegations against porter. He maintains that its not as it appears, but the white house is certainly separating from rob porter. This issue also speaks to sort of what was not known about a man who was wellknown in washington having served on three prominent republican senators staffs in senior positions as well. Kelly, thanks for that. Phil rucker, youve been digging into john kellys role in all of this and what impact it has on his credibility. What have you learned and what is his position right now in the white house . Is his credibility damaged enough that it could affect his standing . People who observed john kelly remember he was a four starr marine corps general. Since joining the Trump Administration, hes had a number of moments here where his credibility has been called into question. Remember those false attacks he had against Democratic Congresswoman fredricka wilson. And his handling of the porter situation is leaving a lot of doubt, including people in the west wing about how much credibility he really has left at this point. Why did the white house go to the mat so quickly for rob porter . Did they not have all the information . What was the thinking . We dont know the full story yet. Hopeful raj shah will fill in those details. Part of it is because every liked and trusted him in his professional life. This was a huge surprise to people. He was seen as real straight arrow, someone working very professionally and competently. The title seems to suggest hes in an administrative role, but he was kellys right hand in instilling discipline. Kathryn lucy, you were at the white house for the ap. What do you see rob porter doing every day as far as his closeness with the president , his involvement in the day to day, and is there a sign he may have misled john kelly about these allegations . Porter really was viewed as a significant part of this administration and a real rising star. He handled all the paperwork that went to the president s desk and was seen as sort of a chief of staff to kelly. And was part of the everett to try and bring discipline and order and stability to the west wing. In terms of his communications about his clearance, were still trying to get the full details on what he told people and who knew what and when. Were getting more clarity we hope at the briefing today. We have a little bit of sound from former Vice President joe biden. I want to play that and then well talk about it. How do you explain his access to the president of the United States and the chief of staff, frankly, in the last 24 hours . I cant explain it. Its long past do you. Hes departed. If you just look at it from a perspective of one thing, the fbi didnt think he should get a security clearance. They had to know that . Sure they knew that, and they still do. The culture is changing, thank god, but not fast enough. The idea this would happen in the oval office. I dont know, i heard when the president found out about it, he said go. If thats the case that the president didnt know about it, good for the president. How could the president not know one of his closest advisers didnt have a top security clearance . What does that say about the president in this white house . Andrea, im having an enormous difficulty understanding how this white house functions. Joe biden and andrea. You covered both National Security and the white house. It is significant that there would be an aide with access to this kind of information who was operating without a security clearance. Or at this point we suspect that he also caused the interim, the temporary clearance which would give of him all access in most cases, but what happens is essentially when theyre conducting the background checks to process the paperwork for clearance, the fbi or any of the Intel Services might say this guy has a questionable background and so you need to issue a waiver. What does that waiver suggest . It basically says you take the liability away from us. You are the ones, its on your head if this person comes up with issues down the line. Its on you, its not on us. So a number of people within the administration would have had to be informed about it. Were still trying to determine exactly who, but essentially the fbi would have told them that moving forward. What do we mean by questionable background . In this case they would be concerned about someone whos vulnerable to blackmail, for example, domestic violence. A reason to give a Foreign Government information. This is definitely one of those cases where Something Like that would come up. Whether or not president knew, were still trying to determine. Seems determined the president was unaware of the fact he did not have the sort of allsweeping clearances that a number of people do. Normally the staff secretary would have all access. Because theyre so close to the president . Exactly. Phil whats your reporting of where kelly stands with the president and what kind of impact is this incident having . We have no indication that its having much of an impact at all on kellys relationship with the president. The president has at times over the last six months that kellys been chief of staff chafed at some of the restrictions kellys imposed, maybe complained occasional to friends about him, but he has adamantly defended his chief of staff publicly. He said hes doing a great job, nobody had reporting of late to suggest kellys on the brink of being fired. I think the question is more does kelly lose credibility inside the administration and outside of it and how the dominos fall internally if there are other aides what may take some of the fall for having protected porter. Is there a straw that broke the camels back . Theres a mounting Public Relations crisis. Its become a fire storm for this white house. Thank you all so much. Really appreciate it. Up next, can Congress Beat the clock and avert another Government Shutdown . The senate is set to vote on a plan any minute now. But does it stand a chance in the house . This spending bill is a debt junkies dream. Im not only a no. Im a hell no. Ill speak to mo brooks. Were going to ask him directly live up next. Or make a back seat that feels nothing like a back seat . Why give it every feature you could want, along with a few you didnt know you needed . Its simple. You can build a car, or you can build a cadillac. Come in now for this exceptional offer on the cadillac ct6. Get this lowmileage lease on this 2018 cadillac ct6 from around 549 per month. Visit your local cadillac dealer. Looking for a hotel that fits. From arounwhoooo. Per month. Your budget . Tripadvisor now searches over. 200 sites to find you the. Hotel you want at the lowest price. Grazi, gino find a price that fits. Tripadvisor. You or joints. Something for your heart. But do you take something for your brain. With an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brainhealth supplement in drug stores nationwide. Prevagen. The name to remember. Im the king of debt. Im great with did he tell you no one knows debt better than me. I made a fortune using debt. If things dont work out, i renegotiate the debt. Donald trump once called himself the king of debt and now his party appears to be following in his foot steps. The Current National debt stands at nearly 20. 5 trillion. The republican tax plan passed last year could add another 1. 5 trillion that that number. The new bipartisan budget deal calls for more domestic and defense spending that would tack on another 300 billion. We are watching to see if we get a vote in the senate anytime now. It is expected to pass despite some fiscal hocks expressing concern. They cant say effect of this budget deal on the deficit . Its not good. And im i feel like i have to choose between love and honor on this thing. I feel like im between the hammer and the anvil. Its a bad deal. It just spends too much money, 300 billion over the next year and funding will be out of control. Its too much. So far flake, bob corker of tennessee, and steve daines of montana are the republican senators who said they are voting against this bill. And now were hearing that senator rand paul is holding all this up. How is that for a turn of events . I i want to go to garrett haake. Quickly before we talk to congressman mo brooks, we have been watching the floor and we hear frank thorpz who talked to john cornyn about this. Whats going on . It wouldnt be a critical budget vote without a rand paul moment. The senate needs all 100 senators to go to a unanimous consent to say were ready to deal with this now and not take the required time that would force them to miss the deadline to keep the government open. Rand paul is holding that up. He wants on amendment to say were not going to do this. Were not going to go through the budget caps and keep this spending number lower and leadership doesnt necessarily want to do that, they dont want to open up this process. They have a deal. And they dont want somebody to hold this negotiation hostage. So Senate Republican leaders are trying to work out a compromise that can satisfy rand pauls complaints about this process and about how much this bill is going to cost that still allows them to get this done before the deadline and kick it over to the house where it becomes your next guest problem. Ill leave it there so you can talk moe brooks about it. Moe brooks is a member of the freedom caucus. I appreciate you being here today. My pleasure. Good to hear rand paul is doing what he often does. He does not go unnoticed. We have seen this movie before. Congressman, we played a sound bite at the top where donald trump called himself the king of debt. You have said that you are a hell no on this bill because of what it adds to the debt. But the president says this is a deal that he supports. Do you think the president is portraying the Republican Party in their stand on fiscal responsibility . I think the president wants money for National Security and i agree with the additional amounts for National Security. In fact, i voted that way just tuesday, two days ago. It would have increased it by 60 billion in levelfunded the parks of the federal government. Normally when you send something across to the senate from the house, the compromise is if we want 50, and i dont like it, how about 20, or 30, or 40 . Thats the compromise. What the senate did in this instance was absolutely blow everything up. They fulfilled every debt junkies dream and decided to spend 230 billion that we dont have. We cant afford to pay it back and in time its going to result in a trillion dollars deficit for this year alone not counting future years. National defense or military may have to be dissolved because we dont have the money to pay for them. Thats what happens when youre in a bankruptcy situation. Do you think the House Speaker has let the party down . He was a party to this, led the agreement and says its a good deal. I dont want to focus on individual people. Im happy to discuss public policy. And i will reiterate that this is a terrible bill substantively and symbolically for the United States of america. It rushes us in the direction of bankruptcy on a string of trillion dollars a year deficit that goes down until we become insolvent. Symbolically its telling the American People that not only can you counted on democrats to spend on money we dont have, but by golly, you have republicans who want to outbid them on ow how badly we can perform. I think thats a horrible symbolic message to send to the world, particularly to those creditors who may decide they may no longer want to loan us money. If your critto all of a sudder todays circumstances, if this bill passes, we have a trillion dollars hole in our spending. Roughlily 4 trillion being spent, and i dont know where its going to come from. Would you rather see the Government Shutdown than see this budget deal pass . I dont want either one. I want us to pass a reasonable bill. At this point its one or the other . Its not one or the other. At any moment we can pass a different kind of legislation that resolves this issue without a Government Shutdown on the one hand and without being financially irresponsible on the other. Thats what i think we should be doing. I thought thats what we did on tuesday when it is house passed legislation that avoided Government Shutdown. And then something happened over the United States senate between Mitch Mcconnell and chuck schumer. I dont know what theyre drinking over there, but theyre certainly not paying attention to americas future and they should not be putting us at greater risk of bankruptcy that will have a debilltating effect on american lives. If this is as you say it is, what do you say to American Voters who may be surprised that its republicans, its a republicanheld congress, and a republican white house, leading you down this road . If you want to avoid a National Insolvency and bankruptcy that will do great damage, then please pay more attention to the people you send to washington, d. C. , and vote acordingly. By definition, congress is a reflection of the American People because the American People sent us all here. If the American People keep sending people to washington, d. C. , who feel their first duty is spending money we dont have, then were going to continue to do it and make your debt situation worse until the creditors decide theyre not going to loan us anymore money and boom like there a were in bankruptcy. Our creditors control it. Keep in mind some of those creditors are adversaries, and they have a motivation to try to undermine the ability of the United States to participate in Global Affairs and one of the quickest ways they can do it is cut off that flow of money. Thats bad. Alabama congressman mo brooks, appreciate it. Garrett haake on capitol hill and joining me here in our newsroom, Bloomberg National political reporter is a heel capoor. Walk us through what you expect to see over the course of today. Were expecting the senate vote to go relatively smoothly. What are the dynamics in the house . The senate vote is likely to go smoothly once we have it. Random pauline seems to be holding up the timing of a have to. If he doesnt object drop his objections then it could go past midnight which means there would be a shutdown over an absurd thing. Schumer and mcconnell and a lot of democrats and a lot of republicans seem to be on board with this. The democrats have extracted a promise from senator mcconnell to move forward with an open fair process on daca. They can tell their base they received that. In the house, things are more tenuous. Leadership today actively whipped against this. They sent a notice to members urging a no vote because speaker ryan is refusing to make the same commitment at Mitch Mcconnell did to allow a bipartisan process. Ryan said he wants to resolve this issue. He is committed to putting something on the floor as long as the president supports it, but theres not that commitment and its difficult for pelosi and leaders to justify supporting this bill. On immigration, of course. Garrett haake, lets walk through rand paul for a second. Were joking a little bit about how this happens frequently. Hes often taken these stands and the procedure in the senate is pretty complicated. He could drag this out past midnight if he decided all by himself. Thats right. One man or woman in the senate can have enormous power if not to get something done to prevent something from being done. In this case, the senate rules require certain amounts of time between votes and how things are being considered. Those rules can almost always be waived, but it requires everybody to get on the same page and vote for it unanimously. So in this case rand paul doesnt have to actually get what he wants to get his point across if that makes any sense. He doesnt have to win the vote. He just has to say im not willing to move up the clock and all of a sudden were staring in the face of a shutdown. His concerns will have to be addressed to some degree, but Republican Leaders dont want to set a standard for this. They dont want to encourage anyone who has any issue on any time to milk the clock to their advantage. Thats why were so hung up on rand paul. I want to go back to something moe brooks said because it struck me how much he dislikes this bill. Democrats that ive talked to in the house, by and large, they really like this bill, even nancy pelosi said i like this bill, i just wish it come with these circumstances attached. This bill is missing only the daca piece from being something democrats would actually like a great deal but now theyre in this bind, the base demands they do something on daca and theyre sort of stuck to vote against something they would otherwise like because of this one piece thats missing. To garretts point, i spoke to some democrats who basically feel as though theyve gotten into a position where theyre being blamed for nothing happening on daca, that they havent been aggressive enough when instead they feel as though the president ended this program and they should take the blame. This is challenge of being in the house minority. The politics and backlash are stronger than the politics of being in power. Democrats are genuinely caught in a position where about 45 , nearly half of all daca beneficiaries are in california or texas. There are a lot of democrats in the midwest and the south and the Congressional Black Caucus and the northeast who dont have the same level of pressure from their constituents. Leader pelosi send a colleague note to her members saying there are hundreds of billions of dollars in investments, good things in this bill. Democrats like a lot of it. But shes pointed to this daca piece accusing speaker ryan of insulting the American People or words similar to that by refusing to allow a daca vote. Leadership is caught in a bind. This bill includes bullies for disaster relief, there are quite a few hardhit places in america and the Virgin Islands and puerto rico among those places that should see benefits from this bill. We are, again, waiting for the senate to start that vote. We know rand paul is the one holding that up. Garrett haake and is a heel capoor in the newsroom. Thank you very much. Up next, an nbc news exclusive revealing just how far russia went and how many states that hackers reached. Jim hines of the Intelligence Committee joins me after a quick break. [ click, keyboard clacking ] [ click, keyboard clacking ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ click, keyboard clacking ] good questions lead to good answers. Our advisors can help you find both. Talk to one today and see why were bullish on the future. Yours. 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Now in an exclusive interview with nbc news, gentleman net mantra from a, is reveal just how far that meddling went. We saw targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of that 21 were actually successfully penetrated. Where it was coming from was not just russians, but the russian government. Correct no doubt . No doubt. Joining me is ken delainian. Ken, thanks for joining me today. What in this would you underscore as being new . The Intelligence Committees have been looking at it and weve been aware there were these efforts but seems as though any actual do we know if its they got into these rolls or was there actually manipulation. Whats new in this exclusive reporting is that the department of Homeland Security is finally acknowledging some of these attempts were successful. They have long said 21 sates were targeted as you may know. Some states disagree with that and they dont believe they were targeted but how dhs is saying some handful of actually breached. But there still is no evidence any votes for changed or rolls were manipulated, kasie. Do we know if dhs told the states that were successfully hacked . You mentioned there were some who said this isnt what happened, but do they have the information they needed from the u. S. Government . Its not clear. They have been a lot of back and forth on that. Because some of this information is classified. In the cases where some states disagree, it can be a matter of semantics. We saw them breach state systems with the intent. The bottom line is 1 states were targeted according to the federal government. Thank you very much for helping us explain in august of. For more, i want to bring in Democratic Congressman jim hines of connecticut, a member of the house Intelligence Committee. Congressman, thank you very much for your time today. Hi, kasie. Can you start by just explaining how much of this was new to you that there was success on the part of the russian government in breaching these voter rolls, voter systems in these certain states, and do you feel like dhs has done what they need to do in warning these states about what actions they need to take . Yeah, its a great question, kasie. As a member of the Intelligence Committee i probably had a better sense for the breadth of the attacks on our election infrastructure. Ken delainian is right. Theres still no evidence that votes for changed, but the point is even for medicine who serves on the committee, each month brings new evidence of the depth of these attacksment getting a look at the twitter adds the russians ran, the facebook videos the russians ran, how many people were exposed to those russianpurchased videos, thats something that happened over time. And so we are still learning. And the answer to your question is that i think its fair to say that in registrars offices people are very seriously addressing this. Whether thats happening fast enough or not, i do worry about. If you are a state thats potentially dealing with this, what are measures you can take to fight against it . First and most importantly, im sort of interested this hasnt come up yet in this conversation. Recall that prior to the election there were all sorts of public concerns about this. And a number of states actually aggressively resisted having dhs and other elements of the federal government and then i give them advice and it got very partisan. One of the things we need to do is take a deep breath, make sure we understand were in partnership, federal government, local, and state entities, against a common enemy. That would be a very good start. Apart from that, theres technical fixes and theres still states that dont have written records of individual votes. If you dont have that, you have no way to audit and confirm that your results havent been tinkered with. Your investigation has been playground by partisanship. No one will argue with that. But in some ways its obscured what was the original mission you were investigating, which is this broad meddling. Do you feel as though the lack of bipartisanship on the house Intelligence Committee is hurting the broader effort to make sure this doesnt happen in 2018 or 2020. Its the lack of bipartisan. The reality is mike conaway is still doing a terrific job. Hes not doing everything the democrats want him to do but the russia investigation itself continues. We keep moving forward. The Intelligence Committee has been badly damaged by the chairmans individual obsession lately with the fbi and the doj and proving despite constant evidence that they were somehow biased against donald trump. Of course, this goes back to almost nine months. Its not a question of bipartisanship. Its a question of the leader of that committee deciding hes going to do everything he can, including putting things out there that are rapidly retfuted i forget to let you go, but weve seen reports there are physical walls being built between staffers from the democrats and republicans in the Intelligence Committee. Whats your understanding . Ive heard that. But sadly over time, yeah, it used to be that we got one memo from the postal staff. Now the republicans get one and the democrats get another. The American People need to understand were the only people really providing oversight over a very important but potentially frightening operation. And we need to get back to a point where theres just no room for either partisanship. Thank you very much for your time today. Appreciate it. As we wait for the White House Press briefing to get under way, we do want to take you some breaking news. The dow dipping below 500 points. Msnbc ali velshi joins me from the new york newsroom. No one better to explain whats going on now. This is turning the tables. I normally come to you in the afternoon saying whats going on . This dow youre looking at is down 2. 3 . I tend to Pay Attention to the markets. Whats going on, this is more normal in the history of looking at a market where you see markets go down, pull back, go up 80s, people ant to get out of the market, sell and buyers come in. Im not yet alarmed by this. I like to look at the s p 500 because its a little broader than doubt. For the year, meaning the beginning of the year, this market is down 1. 3 . So this is by no means a catastrophe. The oneyear return on the dow or the s p 500 is over 15 . We went for a long time without seeing the market pulling back a little bit and doing its normal stuff. Thats what were doing. When you look at the analysis, a lot of people are saying its interest rate, fears, thats the underlying issue. Interest rates are going up because the economy is doing better. We have lower unemployment, wages are going up. When Interest Rates go up and wages go up, it ruins, not ruins, but it pulls corporate profitability down, and thats what the stock market is, corporate postbilitrofitability its the normal course of events. Im definitely attuned to when things you should start worrying about it. Im not there yet. Ill send you a copy of the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy that says dont panic. Ali velshi, thank you very much. Well see you in 15 minutes. Up next, former Vice President joe biden opens up about 2020, whether hes helping or hurting the future stars of the Democratic Party by staying in the ring. Before the break, heres what he told Andrea Mitchell about donald trump and the takeback here is what he would not say. I find him just not incredible on things he says. Do you mean that hes a liar . Look, im not going to sit and call the president of the United States a liar. I can say he does not tell the truth. 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Im still going for my best. And for eliquis ask your doctor about eliquis. [seen it. Covered it. N. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum debilita. I think its a little bit of an understatement to say a number of democrats are thinking about challenge President Trump in 2020. Potential candidates included former Vice President joe biden. Andrea mitchell sit down with him and asked about his potential plans. There are so many younger democrats. Youve got Kamala Harris and cory booker and amy klobuchar. A lot of qualified absolutely. Is your presence on the stage and your decision making, youre obviously considering it, is that going to overshadow and prevent some of these younger democrats no, no, no. Look, i give you my word, im focused on one thing, electing a Democratic Congress to stop this erosion of the core of who we are. Ill look at that a year from now. Could you have beaten donald trump . Oh, i dont know. I read everybody saying how good biden can be. Youve got to be in the ring, man. You have to be in the ring. I have no idea if i would have beaten donald trump. I had plenty of time to consider to run. We have really qualified people out there. Joining me here in our washington newsroom is nbc news digital reporter and Hillary Clintons 2016 campaign wire. I want to talk to you about what he said to say about Hillary Clinton. Lets touch on joe biden and his potential run. He is out there on the speaking circuit. Alex, you covered for for a long time. Seems as though its almost feeling inevitable. No question hes considering it. And why not . Hes onerun for president before. Looked at running in 2016. Many candidates feel hes at the top of that and could stand out. But, you know, he swerved in the past and im not convinced that hes really going to stick through it. A lot of people around him arent convinced either. Seems like some of his donors are on the fence about it because theyre not100 sure. Right. They want somebody that theyre going to commit now when they have so many good options out there. They want to be with a horse thats going to take them all the way to the white house. I wonder if there isnt an emerging problem on the democratic side like we saw for republicans in 2016 with too many. Adrian, i want to ask you about what the former Vice President said about Hillary Clintons bid for president. Lets take a look. I think what happened is something weve never seen in american politics. The vast majority of people in and out of public life and the press thought he had disqualified himself 15 times by the things he said, his groping women i realized z, the shorn stein school at Harvard University did a study. Only 4 of all the chatter and all the news about Hillary Clinton had to do with issues. So, adrian, you were behind the scenes of this campaign. There was a constant frustration with what you perceived to be a fail eun to cover policy at the expense of what donald trump was saying. Im wondering, first of all, what do you make of what joe biden had to say. Also pushing forward, we have a sense of how this president is going to run a Reelection Campaign and that issue is going to present itself again. Is there anyone in the democratic field you think is capable of standing up to that . Absolutely. I think first of all, there was a Campaign Like no other. Weve never seen anything like this. Donald trump, assuming hes on the ballot in 2020, well see this whole es capade again. Already called Elizabeth Warren pocahontas. Right. All the standard rules have been thrown out the door. We had a very challenging time for a lot of reasons. In part, every time secretary clinton would want to unveil a policy proposal, donald trump was tweet something crazy and everybody would be thrown off their game. You covered this, too, alex. You remember this. Moving forward, i think youll see a lot of democrats running in 2020. If joe biden runs and bernie sanders, the two together will take up a lot of oxygen which is not a terrible thing. I also think we dont know right now what kind of candidate we need to take on donald trump in 2020. As far as im concerned, everyone should run, kerstin gillibrand, Kamala Harris, terry mcauliffe, steve bullock. If joe biden wants to throw his hat in the ring, i think that would be fantastic. The republicans said at the beginning, weve got the greatest deepest bench that there ever was. A lot of them unhappy that they ended up with donald trump. Before we get to 2020, we actually have a midterm elect n election. Your new reporting about democrats expanding the mat. Can i dont explain that . We know democrats are looking at a very good november. Today i believe right now as we are speaking, ben ray lieu hand is the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is saying theyre expanding to 101 districts. These are the targets, the races theyll try to sit, sitting republicans theyll try to unseat. It means theyll potentially invest money, looking at candidates. It shows they feel uncon fi dent. Throws a lot of surf boards in the water to try to catch a wave. We dont know what the polls will look like in november. We know you cant win unless you compete. They want to compete in as many places as possible. Play the odds and hope to win big. Competing means spending money, focus, adds, media recruiting candidates. There were dikts that Hillary Clinton won youve got to remember she won by 3 million votes. Theres a lot of districts where she will perform very well. I think the answer is yes. Adrien el rod, alex seitzwald, appreciate it. Spoiler alert, shes back. 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I was haunted by tweets every single day, like what is he going to tweet next. Does anybody say to him, what are you doing . I tried to be that person and all of the people around him attacked me. It was like keep her away, dont give her access, dont let her talk to him. Who has that power to say whats going on . I dont know. Im not there. Its not my circus, not my monkeys. I like to say not my problem, but i cant say that because its bad. And with that, we will wrap things up for this hour. As a reminder, you can catch me every sunday night 7 00 to 9 00 p. M. On casey dc. Ali velshi picks things up. Good afternoon. Were watching three big stories unfolding. First, were awaiting the White House Press briefing for new reaction to this escalating controversy surrounding staff secretary rob porter, former staff secretary rob porter after accusations of physical abuse by his two exwives. Were just nine hours away from another Government Shutdown and Congress Still hasnt voted on the budget deal that leaders announced yesterday. Weve got to get votes through by tonight. Whats holding it up . Third, the story that wont go away, stock markets continue to drop. Markets are tanking again today, about a 2. 5 loss, moderated in the last few minutes. We are getting much more of this in the day. I want to talk to you first about the markets. In the last few days, the last hour has been the most serious. Look at this chart up here. Thats the chart of the day. It has all been in the red. Its been negative all day. The issue, however and im going to push over here a little bit nks it has gone down and up and down and up and down and up. These little krags are what you want to see in a market. Thats a functioning market. People are selling stock to get out of this. They think the rally has gone on for too long. People buy and it goes up. Then people sell. Thats the normal functioning of the market
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