Political interests of at least one Ukrainian Government official. Today, House Democrats subpoenaed both men for documents, the two were expected today or tomorrow until they were arrested last night at dulles as they were trying to flee the country. And another goal to get hid of former Ukrainian Ambassador marie yovanovitch, she is expectexpect expected to testify tomorrow. Meanwhile, 16 conservatives have written a letter calling for the expeditious impeachment of president. Many who were in previous administration, led by George Conway. Husband of trump adviser Kellyanne Conway. Were going is is tsndy the ukraine an official who sought the dismissal of the u. S. Ambassador of ukraine. With respect to the last allegation, let me take you through some of the money flow. Parnas and fruman contributed 325,000 to committee one. This contribution was not made in their name. It was made in the name of a corporation that they set up, gep. In order to hide that the true individuals behind the donation were parnas and fruman. The 325,000 is one of the largest donations that committee one received. And in the indictment, we indicated, or allege that this was an illegal straw donor scheme. In addition, parnas and fruman made direct contributions to congressman one. And these contributions direct and promised totaled over 20,000. Moreover, committee one spent approximately 3 million to benefit congressman 1. Now, as a result, parnas and fruman had several meetings with congressman 1. And these meetings, parnas, on behalf of the Ukrainian Government official lobbied congressman 1 to advocate for the removal of the then u. S. Ambassador to ukraine. Protecting the integrity of our elections and protecting our elections from unlawful foreign influence is are Core Functions of our Campaign Finance laws. And as this office has made clear, we will not hesitate to investigate and prosecute those who engage in criminal conduct that draws into question the integrity of our political process. And i want to add that this investigation is continuing. Now, i want to acknowledge and thank our wonderful aides who worked on prosecuting and investigating this case and will continue to investigate this case. To my right is rebecca battlesky. Somebody ordinarily to her right, nick rolls who could not be here because hes in the Eastern District of virginia assisting with parnas and fruman. To her right, rosca pos capone edward conas. I as want to thank our partner in this case and so many important cases, the new york office of the fbi, represented here today. To my left, bill sweeney. My good friend the assistant director in charge of the new York Field Office to his left, mike driskell, the special agent of the Criminal Division and to his left, george kazami, the special agent in charge of corruption at the fbi. Now, id like to invite to the podium, my very good friend, bill sweeney, for any comments youd like to make. Thanks, jeff. Last night, at Washington Dulles International airport the fbi arrested lev parnas and igor fruman on campaignrelated charges as they attempted to leave the United States. Andre kukushkin was arrested shortly thereafter. David correia the fourth individual charged is not yet in our custody. Campaign finance laws exist for a reason. The American People expect and deserve an election process that has not been corrupted by the influence of foreign interests. And the public has a right to know the true source of campaign contributions. Lays make up the fabric of who we are as a nation. These allegations are not about some technicality, a civil violation or an error on a form. This investigation is about corrupt behavior. Deliberate law breaking. The fbi takes the obligation to tackle corruption seriously. There are no exceptions to this rule. We gather evidence. We collect facts and we will act on them when appropriate. As jeff mentioned, our investigation will continue. Many thanks always to jeff and your team, prosecutors here at the Southern District. Thank you, as well, to our fbi personnel and our offices in miami, San Francisco and washington, d. C. And, of course, thanks, mike and george, to your team and the team of agents and professionals who are Quiet Professionals and solid Public Servants here in the new york office. Thank you. Thank you. There you have it right there. William berman and the assistant zrebl director in charge of the sndy bill sweeney announcing the charges of the two men and among other men that the finance violations, theyre not a technicality, not a civil issue, this is corruption, and they take it very seriously. They also noted that two of the men as they said a moment ago, parnas and presufruman were tryo flee the country last night. They were arrested by the fbi at Dulles Airport in virginia. Joining me in virginia is nbc correspondent ken delanian. From capitol hill, Geoff Bennett, Reuters White House correspondent jeff mason and here former u. S. Assistant District Attorney for new york and msnbc analyst mimi rocah also joining us. One calling for an expeditious impeachment of donald trump, former senior counsel of president clinton, paul rosenswag. Ken delanian, walking us through what we got from the sndy . Reporter katy, i think the biggest news we just got was the investigation is continuing and thats really important because theres a lot thats important about this case thats not in this indictment. But ill tell what you is in it, is they describe a scheme to funnel foreign money to candidates for federal and state office and to make straw donations, to disguise a donation as part of an effort for these gentlemen to cultivate political interests for their businesses. One thing thats interesting, katy, it shows a scheme for federal and state office but it only explicitly describes foreign money going to state candidates in nevada. It doesnt suggest, for example that the 325,000 contribution made to the trump Political Action committee, the trumplinked committee, that came from a foreign source. Thats not in this indictment, but theres an implication that somehow foreign money went to foreign candidates. These two associates of Rudy Giuliani, he says he represents them as a lawyer were helping him broker with ukraine, in meetings to investigate the bidens and do other investigations that donald trump wanted. And at the same time, these men, parnas and fruman were pursuing private business deals involving liquefied gas. They were wear two hats. Thats what congressional investigators want to ask them about which is who were they talking to in ukraine, what was Rudy Giulianis involvement. What were the private business dealings and whether Rudy Giuliani had any knowledge in an attempt to get a gas deal. Paul, just laying it out, two associates of Rudy Giuliani helping him dig up dirt on joe biden in ukraine, according to the indictment, according to news reports as well. While the president himself, paul, is talking on scam camera saying hes the one trying to root out corruption, his personaly giuliani have now been indicted on corruption themselves. I know you were a part of a letter calling for the expedited impeachment of the president. Talk to me about what this means to you. Well, this is just another straw. I mean, if the ukrainian telephone call was the straw that broke the camels back, this is the straw that breaks the back of the next six camels along the line. Its especially another incident of the president s projection. He calls other people corrupt when he and his associates are corrupt. He calls other people impeachable when hes impeachable. I think it is time and beyond time for members of Republican Party to understand that this president has so reduced the values of american democracy, that they need to step up and reassert the authority of congress to investigate. And reassert the values that under gird the fidelity of our american elections. If we get a returned Republican Party ill vote for it gladly because those mire conservative values but trump is no conservety. Mimi, you worked at the sndy, talk to me what it means to you to see them so forcefully underscore. This is not a technicality. This is not frivolous. This is a big deal. This is corruption. And our elections are the most Important Foundation to our democracy. Katy look, this is very heartening. A lot of us Jeffrey Berman is a trump appointee. Hes a trump appointee. Were concerned base of the integrity of bill barr. A lot of people are wondering if the Southern District is still as independent as it used to be. I dont know, but this picture tells me theyre still willing and able to do cases that do threaten not just the lawyer, friend, close associate of the president. For jack sekulow to get on and say is this has nothing to do with trump this morning is laughable, yeah, maybe the words in the dieindictment dont, but obviously this is where the roads were leading. This is the first step, this indictment. Not the last step. Not because they said theyre going to keep on investigating. Because any prosecutor who is following the facts and evidence its going to take them closer and closer to giuliani and this bigger pri eger picture of urik corruption. Jeff mason, how is this going to affect it when others have gotten too hotdidnt have a lon with them. They were barely working for my campaign. Is there a point that the president s relationship with Rudy Giuliani might be at risk . Thats a great question. Youre right to mention that, he has certainly cut ties close to them before, Stephen Bannon comes to mind. Paul manafort. Paul manafort, exactly. And got in controversy and he cut ties. Its hard to imagine he would do that cleanly with Rudy Giuliani, particularly at this time when ukraine is such a big part of the story here in washington. Such a big part of the impeachment, the main part of the impeachment inquiry that democrats are running on capitol hill. And he has been a spokesman for the president in a personal capacity and a legal capacity on this issue and many others. Yes, this might irritate the president , it might lead him to ask himself some questions. I just think its hard to imagine at least right now that it would lead to any quick cutting of ties between the two men. What were democrats in the house trying to get out of these two associates . Well, these two men would connect a lot of dots. As ken delanian pointed, these two men helped to facilitate the entire fund that Rudy Giuliani was trying to run. And he know he leaned on at least one member of congress, former member, Jeff Sessions to help oust marie yovanovitch, who raised concerned over apparently what President Trump had asked giuliani to do, run outside of normal diplomatic channels. I think what House Democrats right now are doing, theyre going to wait and watch this criminal proceeding. Theyre going to wait and see if any pertinent information emerges from it. And theyre also hopeful that the criminal proceeding combined with the new congressional subpoenas because in the last couple of hours, House Democrats have now summed these two men for documents. I think theyre hoping that the compound eck of that will pressure them to tell what they know about the entire ukrainian portion. Paul, i want to read this, we believe the acts revealed publicly over the past several weeks are fundamentally incompatible with the president s oath of office, his duties and these acts based on what has been revealed to date are a legitimate basis for an impeachment investigation. Vote in the house of representatives and a potential trial in the senate. You told the washington post, paul, that your goal is to get intellectual cover to stand up with other conservatives to say the emperor has no clothes and to do the right thing. How are you convinced, or why do you believe that this cover will be taken by any republican lawmakers that currently have the authority to vote . Well, im not sure it will. But its all that i can provide. I and the other 16 who signed this letter, and literally thousands of other lawyers and republican political people around the country have stood up and said, this emperor has no clothes. Youve thrown your lot in with somebody who is essentially asserting an authoritarian kingly prerogative to ignore congress which fundamentally isnt what america is about. We had a revolution against it. And by demonstrating publicly that there are some of us who are willing to stand up and talk about it publicly and others who will put their money where their mouth is and make contributions. Im not rich enough to do that. You know, hopefully, we can tell people, especially some of the grand old men in the party who are retiring like Lamar Alexander and johnny isakson, that now is the time to put country over party and to do whats right. Paul, you investigated bill clinton in the 90s. Cow mat could you imagine that you would be sitting here today talking about a republican president who you think should be at least the impeachment inquiry should go on. You can compare the two investigations . On a kale scale of 1 to 10, giv clinton a number and then donald trump. I thought bill clinton was right to impeach and i would have voted because i think lying under oath is an impeachable offense. On the galactic scale, thats a 5, because in the end, he was not reducing the public interest. He was hiding a personal malfeasance, a personal pi picadil picadillo. Donald trump is literally holding up american aid to a foreign nation for his own personal benefit, putting at risk foreign nations and our allies with his actions if they wont play ball with him. That in itself, plus his essential disruption of congressional Inquiry Authority is breaking the bounds of what makes a president a president in the first place. So if clintons a 5, trumps an 8. One other question. If you were if you were to talk to people, paul, who say that, hey, listen, all politicians are the same. Theyre all corrupt. Theyre all doing things to their benefit. Theyre all a bunch of liars. You can put trump in context here . You c can you explain to them how is this not the same . All politicians are selfinterested, Everybody Knows that but the entire theory of our democracy is that their selfinterests eventually comes together to create a better public interest. And if theyre going in the direction thats good for them, it also winds up being good for the country. Trump is different because trump is going in a direction that is exclusively good for him, whether its his towers in istanbul or dirt on his political opponents. Or covering up his own criminality and his own Sexual Activity with now 43 different women. Whatever it is, hes all about himself. And thats what makes him different. Is giuliani next . I think giuliani is im sorry, thats for mimi. Sorry. Is at the sndy. Look, he should be very very worried right now. Weve all been talking how frustrated we are by congress not having any real leverage even when it subpoenas. The sndy has real leverage with these men which it appears they were involved in other schemes with giuliani, theyre going to have a great incentive to talk to the sndy with that. Does the sndy share information with congress . It can, its not typically the way its done. Even though congress has asked them to appear . This is an unusual circumstance relative to an impeachment investigation as opposed to regular congressional oversig oversight. Mimi, thank you. Paul, thank you, Geoff Bennett and ken delanian as well. And it appears that the Trump Campaign does not pay debts. And a rare interview with George Conway, husband of Kellyanne Conway. He talks about the president s extreme narcissism. And the turkey attacking on syria, why u. S. Special forces say they feel ashamed. And ease into quitting so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. Stop chantix and get help right away if you have changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions, seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking, or lifethreatening allergic and skin reactions. Decrease alcohol use. Use caution driving or operating machinery. 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