Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Stephanie Ruhle 20180

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Stephanie Ruhle August 10, 2018 13:00:00

Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Carrying a recently deported mother and daughter turned around. This, as the government finally files a plan to reunite the 360 migrant kids still separated from their parents after missing last nights deadline. And galaxy quest. What started as a line at a rally could now be coming a reality. I said maybe we need a new force, well call it the space force. And i was not really serious. The administration now asking for 8 billion im going to say that again, 8 billion bucks over the next five years to launch the first new branch of the military since 1947. Whats the goal . It is not enough to merely have an american presence in space. We must have american dominance in space. Oh, my goodness. Players sat out the anthem during last nights game. While others, like Malcolm Jenkin of the super bowl champion eagles, he raised a fist. Kenny stills and Albert Wilson of the miami dolphins, they took a knee. We dont expect any of the nfl players to face any repercussions since the leagues Enforcement Of Anthem Policy was suspended. On thursday, the nfl reiterated its stance that it expects every player on the field to stand during the anthem. The protests on the field over systemic oppression pushed forward. White supremacists, did you hear what i said, White Supremacists and members of the alt right will descend on washington for Unite The Right sequel this weekend. Security will be very tight. And a State Of Emergency has been declared for virginia on the oneyear anniversary of the deadly charlottesville rally. Joining me now to discuss, mark thompson, the host of sirius xms progressive radio. Phil rucker, msnbc political analyst. Matt walsh, reason magazine. And tim obrien, msnbc contributor. Mark, i must go to you first. Last night, the man who started the protest, Colin Kaepernick, tweeted this, my brother continued his protest of systemic oppression tonight by taking a knee. Albert wilson joined him in protest. Stay strong, brothers. Walk us through this, mark. What message does this send . And we need to remind our viewers. This morning, we were going to be leading the top story was going to be about immigration, the abomination and the fallout of the disaster that was President Trumps Zero Tolerance policy. Probably number two story would have been space force. Which we cannot find anyone in the Republican Party or the military to back. Maybe number three would be Paul Manafort, roger stone, the Manhattan Madam. All of those stories, you know who doesnt like them, the president of the United States. And a white supremacist. Thats all there is to it. And he needs to understand. These players are not going to fear him more then the game they play. Players risk their lives and risk brain injury. He sounds like hes somebodys master. Telling players what they should and shouldnt be doing. And even saying they cant define what it is theyre talking about. These players know very well what theyre talking about. They know but for the grace of god, they could have been a Michael Brown or a Trayvon Martin or sandra bland or the Brother Mar Quis who was just killed visavis stand your ground, florida. Im proud of these players. Donald trump is trying to bring back an era in america that we thought we had gotten rid of. But obviously, he wants to keep alive. Just one more thing, if i could, stephanie. Please. You know, we were talking this weekend at the conference. You know these are labors many people here are from labor unions. They work alongside their white brethren. Dr. King talked about from the steps of montgomery state capitol, about the evolution or the origin, the genesis, of jim crow and how theres really not a lot of difference between Working Class whites and Working Class africanamericans and all other people of color. But people like donald trump, as they did in the 60s, he talked about how they would try to draw division between the two. Because less we all come together, what if all of us, Black And White and brown and red, of course were in arizona, what if we all came together and realized were all human beings, we all want to take care of our families, we all want to care for one another. What if we did that, the power that would have . Hes trying to keep the last our opposite. Whites should stand up for africanamerican. Citizens. Rich for poor. Straight for gay. Men for the rights of women. If we all did this, that would be a better america. Fight back against trump. These tweets hes sending out, everybody ought to do those things this very weekend. Care about someone. Learn about another culture. Learn about other people you didnt know about before. And learn to love them. Multiculturalism is america. What Heather Heyer stood for is what america is about. I want to show what President Trump has said in the past about those who refuse to stand for the anthem. Total disrespect of our heritage. A total disrespect of everything we stand for. Everything that we stand for. Matt, when Colin Kaepernick first started this, he actually went to a veteran who said a respectful way to show a sign of protest would be to take a knee. Whats you do when youre at the grave of a fallen soldier. So why is it that the president has successfully hijacked this peaceful demonstration and turned it into yet another point in this culture war hes created . Because he loves culture wars. His whole Political Coalition is based on a sense of grievance that theres a that there is a cultural elite that is sneering at real american values. And the nfl has, since the days of pete rosele back in the late 60s has traded on this hyper patriotism. They standed during the National Anthem very consciously then as a way of saying were not like the vietnam protesters. Theyve been cashing in on this a long time for themselves. Donald trump can say, hey, look, you speak are sneering down. Everybody knows old uncle joe at the bar who loves to shout at the tv, what those rich millionaire athletes are doing. Theres some ugly aspects to that kind of vibe. And donald trump is the classic old man at the bar shouting at the tv and has recognized there is a Political Coalition behind that. It is a shrinking Political Coalition in my view. But its very effective in the moment with his base. This is what he likes to do. Lets keep this in mind. When he does this, hes going to cause more protests. Because americans, thank god, Dont Like Being told what they can and cant do. Hes saying this thing that he supposedly doesnt like by talking about it, hes going to get more of it. He wants more of it. He doesnt want less of it. While it might be your crazy uncle joe at the bar, no, hes drinking a diet coke there. Because its a twoprong war. Hes created this cultural war, pointing the finger at these cattle r cultural elites. His policies are hooking up the elites. Theres no one benefits from his policies more than Corporate America and the wealthiest. When does one wake up to this strategy . I think its obviously that. In the 1970s, were discriminating against people of color. Trump, in 1989, took out a fullpage ad condemning the central five assailants, central park five assailants. He waded in the middle of a very contentious, racially charged event. Because in his own heart, trump has has embraced his racism himself. Hes not unable to condemn charlottesville because he doesnt know what to do. Hes not jumping into the nfl because he says only because hes playing into his base. Because trump himself is very problematic around race. Hes never disavowed david duke. Remember during the Trump University dispute, he went after the mexican heritage of judge curial at the drop of a hat. Donald trump is the embodiment of a long tradition of racial hatred in this country that hes actually legitimized. The danger of this moment right now is people are focusing on the narrow aspects of this, without really recognizing hes made it okay for people like i think Laura Ingraham to go on the air and spout racist theories. So you are in washington and this weekend the unite the right, that protest is taking place. Juxtapose that with what these nfl players are doing and give us a snapshot of where the country is right now. Because, to marks point earlier, the majority of people in america, regardless of the race or heritage, just want to live a good life. This is not what theyre focused on. There is going to be this white supremacist, White Nationalist rally here in washington, right by the white house behind me. Its important to point out President Trump, you know, the bully pulpit. Hes gone on and on about nfl players, trying to dictate how professional athletes should behave, and he said not a word about this White Supremacist Demonstration thats going taking place in his own backyard this weekend. Hes also said really nothing since charlottes individual. Nothing to mark the oneyear anniversary. Hes had no president ial leadership about that moment that divided the country. It was probably, culturally speaking, the low point of his presidency and hes trying to brush it under the rug and forget it ever happened. But this rally has the potential this weekend to be very ugly and very destructive and bring out sort of the worst in america and it will be really a test of president ial leadership to see how donald trump responds and how he handles the moment. Its a moment for the best of america to say no more of this. I do want to go back to lebron james for just a moment and share what he said to don lemon last week. Because remember, that interview took place after lebron james was announcing the school he is fully funding and then the president took to twitter this weekend to discuss how stupid lebron and don lemon were. Heres what he said. What i noticed over the last few months, that hes kind of used sport to kind of divide us, and thats something that i cant relate to because i know that sport was the first time i ever was around someone white. You know, and i got an opportunity to see them and learn about them and they got an opportunity to learn about me and we became very good friends. And i was like, oh, wow, this is all because of sports. Sports has never been something that divides people. Its always something that brings people together. Lebron james is right, sport is something that does bring us together. Mark. Well, again, i think its timing. Football season is coming to a start. And we are approaching were less than 90 days from the midterm. Plus, hes got a chip on his shoulder about the nfl. He wanted to be an nfl owner. The usfl was a failed league that he was involved in. So we know that chip is there. And thats his insecurity. His ego. Hes trying to be macho. Hes a very, very small man. I think thats what its all about. Again, i would encourage all of us. This is no time to be on the fence. Its no time to be fooled. Dr. King said when those who have wrinkled stomachs and didnt have enough money to fill those stomachs, they ate jim crow. A psychological bird that told them at least they were better off than the black man, those who were white. Donald trump is exploiting that same principle. Hes exploiting a resentment in america that actually comes to your point, stephanie, that actually comes from him rewarding the Corporate America and rewarding the rich. Africanamericans are not the enemy. It is the people like donald trump who line their own pockets. Give themselves their own tax cuts and tax care of themselves. They are the enemy. He is the enemy. Not people of color. Not immigrants. Not africanamericans. Not women. None of that. This is Donald Trumps own doing. Hes perpetuating that. We need to isolate that and not tear around each other. President trump likes to see these athletes have the privilege of making millions. We need to remind our audience, its a free market system. Those athletes are paid what the team owners choose to pay them. They get paid exactly what the market bears. Thats how it works. And we want to bring up Laura Ingraham again. Remember, she was the one who famously told lebron james to shut up and dribble. Im sure the kids of akron, ohio, who have the opportunity to go to his school, receive his college scholarships, are blessed and grateful he doesnt shut up and dribble. What started two nights ago is when Laura Ingraham was speaking on her show and she was talking about where the country is headed. She said, in some parts of the country, it does not seem like the america we know and love. Doesnt exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American People and they are changes that none of us ever voted for. Most of us dont like. From virginia to california, we see stark examples of how radically in some ways the country has changed. Now, much of this is related to both illegal and, in some cases, Legal Immigration that of course progressives love. 24 hours passed. Laura ingraham has plenty of time to clarify that. On live tv, we make mistakes. But she waited a full 24 hours. She said what she was talking about was defending law and order. It was about open borders. I urge you to watch what she said again because she said Legal Immigration. If its about Legal Immigration, thats about being a White Nationalist. A racive ivracist. Its not about law and order. What is going on here . That is a long standing conservative point, talking about the changes according thats not Ronald Reagan of course its not. Thats not george bush. Go back and watch Ronald Reagan against george h. W. Bush against the televised primary they had, talking about ilLegal Immigration. One said this is not a criminality issue. This is a grow thing thats been happening in the Conservative Movement for a long time. 1965 immigration act changed the calculus of whos coming into the country. Disproportionately bringing people from asia and latin america. Those people dont have the exact same values we have and are change things. This has been talked about more and more and more in conservativism. Laura ingraham, other people too. Steven miller is in the white house, based hes been marinating in that and creating policies based on that insight hold on, then the party of lincoln, full rucker, those who are in washington, d. C. , career republicans, gop leadership, is fine and dandy with the voices of their party now being steven miller, anne coulter and laura ingraham . Well, this is Donald Trumps Republican Party. So that is the voice of this party. Thats exactly what President Trump campaigned on. Thats what a lot of people read into make America Great again. A lot of the elected officials here are pretty uncomfortable with that grievance, with the views, with the rhetoric. Theyre suppressing their feelings in service to the trump agenda. They feel like getting a tax cut is more important than speaking their conscience and their mind and values. Thats why you see so many republicans in congress, starting with House Speaker paul ryan and majority leader mitch mcconnell, you know, quiet themselves, not speak out when they feel like something the president s done has crossed the line. When they tell us or when a ceo says focus on the policy, dont focus on the tweets. Words matter. The economy might be good but before you can thrive, you have to feel respected and you have to respect others. I firmly believe that is what our nation is built on. I certainly hope more of our leaders will stand up and talk about that and do something about it. Thank you all so much. We have a lot more to cover. Up next, the prosecution in the Paul Manafort trial. Thats something trump doesnt want us to talk about. This is 24 hour news, we got time. A day after the judge apologized to them over his actions. Were going to go live to the courthouse for the latest. First, you got to see this clip. You just finished talking about President Trump and race relations. One of his most ardent africanamerican supporters kanye west was on last night. Kimmel drew a comparison to another president. You so famously and so powerfully said george bush doesnt care about black people. Makes me wonder what makes you think that donald trump does or any people at all. 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