Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle 2018

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle August 30, 2018

And add vierviser how the white is ill prepared for a takeover by democrats. The white house will be under siege. The barrage of investigations into ethical misconduct in the administration, into the president s businesses and most dangerously into possible impeachment proceedings. I dont think impeachment will happen to the president. Are they going to try to cripple his administration, they will. I hope there wont be violence. The last thing we need to do is monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda. I think desantis has decided to pull a page from the Trump Campaign play book. People are tired of this race baiting division. It has zero to do with race. It had everything to do with whether we want florida to continue to go in a good direction or do we want to turn to left wing socialist policies. Ron desantis is extraordinary. Ha harvard, yale, brilliant. I know ron and i dont know him to be a racist. That was just a stupid comment to make. He should apologize. Im not going to apologize because i didnt say anything about race. Okay. All thats happened on day two of the florida gubernatorial campaign. The president is worried. Here is why he should be worried. Theres multiple investigations into his campaign and businesses. They are growing and starting to bear fruit. So far theres been one out right conviction of his former Campaign Chairman for bank and tax fraud. Even though these charges rul da all date to before the campaign. The first conviction and prospect of another could cause Serious Problems for the president. In new york theres two immunity deals in place. One for david pecker, the keeper of the president s secret and his money back at the Trump Organization. Both are expected to be questioned about the president s involvement in his form personal attorneys criminal activity. They have secured six guilty pleas in the federal investigation into the campaign and business dealings. One of the pleas was the one that implicated the president. The most staggering numbers,eni indicted on more than 100 charges including conspiracy against the United States and this investigation is barely more than a year in spelling trouble for anyone else trying to hide their involvement. That trouble could get worse after the midterm elections if democrats take the house of representatives when any talk of impeachment could become a real threat and subpoenas could begin flooding into the west wing. The Washington Post details the drain of Legal Resources from the trump white house. Now barely two dozen lawyers. Down from 35 and concerns over a dwindle and preoccupied communication staff. Contrasting it to the Clinton White house during impeachment proceedings with 40 to 60 including a robust media team. President trump thinks maybe he doesnt need a robust media team. Its all him. Jeff, winter is coming. Thats a telling headline on the Washington Post piece and this mass exodus from the white house legal team. The president loves to go after what he calls the bias media attacking him, attacking him. Were talking about mass exodus from the president s own white house legal team. What does that mean . Publicly white house Officials Say this kind of turnover is to be expected. These jobs are grueling. The hours are long. Its a high stress job but prooit prooif privately, our reporting mirrors that of the Washington Post. There are people who fear he lacks the necessary legal fire power to deal with the potential onslaught of inquiries, investigations and subpoenas, if, we have to underscore if, democrats take the house come november. Hes talked about the possibility of impeachment. To take this out of the realm to give you a real life example. Say democrats win come november. They take over the house and leadership of the oversight committees. If they subpoena tack records, white house emails having to do with the family separation policy, the white house will need a fully staff and experienced team, not just in the counsels office but in the comms shop to deal with it. Right now they are understaffed on both fronts. Joyce, this interview, this story in the Washington Post was based on 26 separate source who is said the white house advisors, people close to the president , his aides, are really concerned. If the house flips in november, theres this laundry list we have been showing, a memo that republicans sent out that all the things democrats might do. Theres some real issues at the top of that. Subpoena and impeachment proceedings and the white house isnt prepared for this. It was great that the republicans went ahead and documented the full extent of the swamp so that democrats wont have to do that on their own if they retake the house. Theres some Major Concerns that are evidenced in that list. The problem is that each of these Legal Inquiries is not something thats as simple as responding to a subpoena. It requires a team of lawyers inside of the White House Counsels Office to evaluate whether it asks for material that the white house should turn over in the interest of tra transparency or be protected by executive privilege. They have to think about this administration, this tenure in office. They need to be staffed up with lawyers. They lost three of the white house deputies. A fourth one will lever tomorrow. Its a difficult situation. Aver tomorrow. Its a difficult situation. Ver tomorrow. Its a difficult situation. Ever tomorrow. Its a difficult situation. Er tomorrow. Its a difficult situation. R tomorrow. Its a difficult situation. Tomorrow. Its a difficult situation. If you have a president with continuous outburst. If youre a white house attorney and you want to live beyond this administration, you want to get a job, you want to keep your representation, isnt it wise to say, does this work for me . This president is operating on his own agenda. If you look at his career history, many, many Business People around him have blown up. Figuratively. I think thats the problem. Many people have left this counsels office and now that there are many open slots, people are unwilling to take the job. The president still has the deputy in the counsels office who deals with National Security issues but all the others are missing. The challenge will be to find people who are willing to come in. If you come into the White House Counsels Office at this point, you have to engage in a really pragmatic calculus of whether you might not end up a subject of i venvest vags. It becomes a less appealing job for the caliber of folks that the president needs to attract now. Allies tell the Washington Post that the president is wondering why he doesnt have lawyers like the one representing Jared Kushner or don mcgahn. If youre a lawyer that works for this white house you could face real problems later in life. Some of these people might get themselves implicated into wrong doing. No lawyer wants to end up getting a subpoena and testify on the hill or in front of the special counsel. You run that risk. Not because youre a bad person or a bad lawyer but because you have proximity to events that might come into the terrain that prosecutors are looking at. This is news that the president has expressed he is interested in hiring abbey lowell who works vigorously on behalf of his clients with Great Success but he already represents Jared Kushner. It seems like representing the president in addition would be something of a conflict of interest. The president will have to find and reach out and attract a high caliber of talent willing to serve in this white house. Thats a challenge. Take us inside the white house. All of this is happening, the president is saying this is the media going after me. The white house is being run like a smoothly run machine. All three of us know from our contacts inside the white house thats not true. Oddly enough dent waont wan return my call because they dont want to talk about this tweet. Are your contacts responding to this with a straight face . The only smooth running machine is tesla right now. You like that, right . Reporter good one. People in the know say that top flight, white shoe attorneys are not beating down the door of this white house, flooding the west wing with resumes trying to represent the white house or the president for the reasons that joyce vance points out. They know the president has a reputation of not listening to his lawyers. Add to that what the president said today on twitter about don mcgahn suggesting he was ousted and the tweet regarding my decision on mr. Mcgahn. A white house official says what the president was referring to was accepting the terms of mcgahns departure which was an open secret for weeks, if not months. We have it confirmed again that mcgahn was not ousted and is living on his own volition. Thanks very much. Thank you to both of you. Don mcgahn is from new jers y jersey. Everybody wants to return to the garden state. Is President Trump feeling the pressure of whats going on around him . Hes been on a tweet storm over the last 24 hours. Chocked full of easily disprovable theories. Otherwise known as lies. Up next, well get a look inside the president s mind from a former Trump Organization executive. You know what youre watching. Vels velshi and ruhle. Velshi and ruhle anncr thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory. Dads got all the answers. 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In many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40s. Welcome back. There are clear signs that the pressure of i venvestigations aa lot of unflattering stories might be getting to President Trump. Theres been the struggle to hire and retain lawyers to his dealings with Michael Cohens to secrets held by the owner of the national enquirer, david pecker. This is all leading to the president lashing out on twitter. Take a look at this. Hes slamming the news media. Thats normal. Hes pushing conspiracy theories about things like the fbi to Search Engines that arent giving him the pr that kneels he deserves. Now we want to bring in barbara res. We know that President Trump loves attention. Trump has told associates, a few years ago they werent getting New York Times covers. Hes on the front page day in and day out. You worked with this man for over 20 years. When you look at his behavior, his conduct right now, on a day like this, we look and think what on earth would he be lashing out like this. What does it tell you . Is this the man you know . It is very much the man i know but amplified. Hes sort of has no selfcontrol. There was never any external control to speak of. Way back he used to listen to people but after that, once he became very famous and full of himself there was no external control. He did have bit of selfcontrol. Right now he looks like hes out of control. When he took advice, he did listen to people. Thats one of the things in some of these stories. People who give him advice he doesnt like seem to disappear. They either leave or theyre fired. Then he surrounds himself with people that says only what he wants to hear. He had people that were good people. Im talking about the trump tower days. He did listen to them. He liked to be flattered. One of the ways i got things done and other people got things accomplished was through flat r flattery. We would have to convince him that our do was his and it was a good one. That how i pair with my 5yearold. That could be. I think a lot of big people are very into themselves. Im not going to say it was only donald. Later, he seemed to hire more people that were basically going to tell him what he wanted to hear and do exactly what he wanted to do. It seem its gotten worse. This media question that he keeps going back to this Dishonest Media stuff. He tweeted. He didnt always hate the media. Oh, no. Hes always, an anonymous source. Absolutely. I dont think he hates the media right now. I think he loves the fact he gets so much coverage. Hes tyaking advantage of his ability to sway his base against the media by coming out and saying the things he does. He loves being in the news. Even back when we werent in the news that much, he liked it. No news is bad news he says. The fact he tells lies day in and day out that can be disproved. He said they didnt cover his state of the Union Address when he didnt give one. Why does the president tell lies on a regular basis that are easily fact busted . It depends on who he is talking to. If its somebody that wont check the facts. Hes already said what he wanted to say. I guess that is interesting. He tweeted about the edited lester holt interview. I posted it on my twitter account. Its been there for everybody to see. All one would have to do is look for it. He said its edited. Thanks for joining us. Its just weird to me. Do people just not look things up. I dont know. They dont. Some people say hes the president of the United States. They believe what he says. Heres thing. Facts are facts. Doesnt matter how we feel. He can easily fact bust him when hes lying. For some reason he lies. How often . Recent months its been about four times a day if you average it over his presidency. Imagine what that must feel like inside your head to be lying that much. This Andrew Gillum story in florida. He was four out of four candidates. Hes now going to be floridas democratic governor candidate. Republicans are planning to hit him with full force. They are spending so Million Dollar on tv ads for next month. Youre watching velshi ruhle live on msnbc. I ruhle live on msnbc. From the very beginning. It was always our singular focus, a distinct determination. To do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. To fight cancer. And never lose sight of the patients were fighting for. Our Cancer Treatment specialists share the same vision. Experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. Specialists focused on treating cancer. Using advanced technologies. And more precise treatments than before. Working as hard as we can doing all that we can for everyone who walks through our doors. 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They have gone to the bull horn with these kinds of tactics. Theyre not going to work. We tried this one time. Donald trump, this is a page from his play book. Tried to divide this country and my state. I want them to know that florida voters are smarter than that. When asked about it this morning, desantis rejected claims that his comments were racist. Im not going to apologize because i didnt say anything about race. It had nothing to do with race. It had to do with his far left socialist fl isist platform. Im not going to be cowed by this drive by media and some of these elites into trying to admit something i didnt do. I have no idea what any of that has to do with elitism. During a round table at the white house yesterday, President Trump stood by his man. Have you heard the statements about desantis . I didnt hear it. He said that its not trying to monkey around with the economy down in florida. I didnt hear it. I didnt hear that, jim. Im working on the deal with canada. I know ron desantis. Hes extraordinary. Harvard, yale, brilliant. Hes an extreme talent. He will make a fantastic governor of florida. I think ron is hes extraordinary in so many different ways. So confused. Harvard, yale. I thought you didnt like those elites. I go back to parenting fiveyearolds. Even if you didnt mean anything by it, you know what solves a lot of problems, saying youre sorry. Lets put the controversy aside and look at Andrew Gillum. Who is this guy . He was one o

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