Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle 2019

MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Velshi And Ruhle June 17, 2019

Today in the capitol, nine democratic president ial contenders are speaking. Joe biden is set to speak in about 30 minutes from now, well bring that you live. Well hear from voters and preparations for these first democratic debate of the 2020 election which is now just nine days away. Twonight event live from miami hosted right here on msnbc and nbc news and telemundo. Joining us now from todays forum. Our friend ali vitali. For those who are unfamiliar of this event, give us an idea of the purpose whos there and what contenders are in the room . Reporter the purpose of the campaign is an event as reverend b barber saying it is not for the poor people but with the poor people. We hear so many of these 2020 candidates talk about of the wealth gap. Nine of them are taking the stage today. This Group Released their policy ideals last year, today they are coming out with a moral budget. Their suggestion of how lawmakers could get tho theo th policies thatll help with america impoverish we were listening to some of the things that activists were mentioning of 15 minimum wage and spending less on defense spending and more on things like education. It did sound like a Bernie Sanders or elizabeth warrens rally. Talking to activists and voters, those are the people who they are looking to hear from. Ali, thank you so much. I look forward to hear what joe biden has to say. Poll numbers have rattled President Trump and the campaign is cutting ties with some of its own pollsters. Cutting ties because they are mad of the leak. Washington post were reporting maybe the leak were on purpose to get to the president. No one wants to give the president bad news. He did not seem to be accepting the news that the polls actually had. It was like he never heard it. The president is trailing former joe bid president joe biden. President trump is ahead of biden in one state, in texas. Here is what is the president said in an interview with abc news. Even your own poll shows you are behind right now. No, my poll shows that i have been winning everywhere. You are behind. We have all seen these reports, 15 out of 27 states those polls dont exist. I had a meeting with somebody thats a pollster and i am winning everywhere. How are they that close in the car . Some people think we sit too close. That was stephanopoulos and donald trump. Maybe the way the camera was. Even if you take the president at his words, those polls dont exist, they do exist. The new polling from fox news appears to backup those very same weak numbers. Joining us now steve cornacki who has information on nonleaked polls. These are published polls. These are polls that anybody can see. The new fox news polls. Thats the president s favorite network. If you are looking here, this is reputable public poll. This is what they found and it is consistent of what other pollsters are finding from other outlets who are checking in right now. You match the president s name up against the likely democratic poebt opponents he could face. A lead for biden. You see these candidates early on with an advantage fover trum. Thats been an Approval Rating. You see the average Approval Rating, if you look at every poll thats out there. His Approval Rating is probably going to be trailing for perspective opponents in polling like this. The question with trump as of 2016, can he ultimately if it is biden or sanders, can he make his democratic polling in 2020 as unpalettable to a lot of voters as trump himself did. Trump was able to do that and created the right set of circumstances for him to win. You look at these polls, looks loo i c like the same story in 2020. Walk us through how this could change quickly because when you put the entire thing into perspective, the entire gop, they looked at polls everyday. They gotten in lock steps with the president in fear of not standing with them will cost them the election. So much of this is, 2016. You remember 2016. We dont remember as well from the polling though. Think of where we were at this point. Well, yes. Early on, he moved up at the republican race. We had a poll came out around this time 2015 that put trump around 1 . He moved up very quickly. He got in the race, he got that first debate. He was leading that race by summer of 2015. Thats before the first debate. I tell ya, except for three days in november when he fell behind ben carson. He led wire to wire in that republican race. We say it is early and it cha s changes a lot. Trump was locked in. What are the milestones to you about when people start paying real attention . When the poll matters because people really heard the candidates and giver them consideration and it is not about name recognition. In terms of the primarieprim they are tuning in right now. We saw in 2015, that refers to republican debate. We are looking at 25 Million People tuned in. You will see a level of interest thats on par with that. This one in terms of the general election. To me the question is, trump seems like somebody, the verdict on trump and peoples views on trump, i am not sure how much have changed since 2016. The variable is whats the view of his democratic opponents could be. Hillary clintons 2016 polling, 43 . That was just low enough to give donald trump an opening. After a campaign with donald trump, what is biden . What is sanders and what is warrens . Are they support north of 43 in trump got to change. Has anything changed at all . You are so good at this. I can listen to steve cornacki talk about polls kind of forever. I dont know, it is going to be interesting. Are people going to be enthused . Where will the trumpers be this time . Steve cornacki. We dont want more. Mike pompeo told fox news over the weekend, the United States has undisclosed intelligence provering iran was the responsible of the attack in the gu gulf of ohman last week. The pompeo was pressed on how far the Trump Administration may go in response to this and other attack, including a rocket attack on an american drone. Here is the second interview. The United States is considering full range. Well keep the president updated. We are confident that we can take a set of accs that can return to terms. You say a full range of options. Does that include a military response . Of course, the president will consider everything we need to do to make sure. Joining us now, ali arussi. Trump has said hes opened to direct talks with iran. There was an opportunity for that when the iran deal was in place. The iran deal, the president of the United States pulled out of. So is that a possibility, is that something these two countries are talking about because we are seeing this low level escalation play out on the side, that can get dangerous. Thats right, there was an opening between the two sides. It is always complicated between iran and america. Look, if the u. S. Would standby the jcp. After all the point of the nuclear deal. Give up your pursuit of a nuclear bomb and enjoy economic prosperity. If we were in that situation, then it would have undoubtedly be easier today for the u. S. To talk to iran. There would have been challenge of communications opening. Foreign investment pouring into the country which we were close to happening. Firms from all over the globe lining out and getting into what they saw of the last frontier of the market, inflation was down and jobs number was up here. It would have been very difficult for powers to be in iran to forfeit an economy for ideology. With that said, it would have never been easy whether everybody was in the deal or not to convince iran to give up its Missile Program or regional influence. If the u. S. Was sealing a deal, they may have reach some sort of compromise together. Dialogue and add vaversary is essential. We are not in that situation today now, it is uncertain. Several of our western allies remain in that deal and they want protected. There is news this morning may make it difficult and potential for what they call an unlimited rise. What does it mean . Why will it affect us and how could it affect the Iran Nuclear Deal . Thats a direct reaction to irans reaction to europe. Not being able to protect iran from u. S. Sanctions. They are now taking small but very provacative steps that could have much wider implications in the near future. The countrys spokesperson announced this morning that the iran will break the nuclear limit and set the deal when ten days. And so theyll carry on increasing as and how they need to until they get to that 20 threshold which will then make it easy to get the 90 purity of what you need to know to build a bomb. Ali arouzi for us joining us from iran. We got breaking news from cairo, Muhammad Morsi has died. He fainted in a Court Session and died soon after. Morsi you will remember was a leader in the Muslim Brotherhood Political Party. A spokesperson some what obscure to the world who then ended up becoming egypts president in 2012 in the midst of arab. He was ousted. A major decision from the Supreme Court on your vote and gerrymandering. Why it matters going into the 2020 elections. Well hear from joe biden speaking at an event in washington, you will see it here live as soon as it begins. You are watching velshi ruhle on msnbc. Hi ruhle on msnbc. Oh my, this heinz mayonnaise is so creamy, one day youll tell your grandkids about it. And theyll say, grandpa just tell us about humpty dumpty. And youll say, he broke his pelvis or whatever, now back to my creamy heinz mayonnaise. Heinz mayonnaise, unforgettably creamy. A potential win for democrats today, a Supreme Court ruling taking on gerrymandering. The high court lets stand a 2018 ruling that 11 Virginia House districts violated the rights of black voters. To explain how that happens, you have to explain what gerrymandering is and why it matters to your vote. Every ten years, Congressional District drawing. Based on the census by the way. Thats why it is so important. The legislature draws the district meaning the Majority Party has power over redistricting. Gerrymandering happens when districts are designed to benefit the Political Party thats drawn in the maps. Like these historic gerrymandering district. How do you draw something of a district of that shape or that shape. The reason some districts looked really weird because they are drawn without reasons. There is a reason, it is a concentrated votes. Gin a quick note on the name, stephanie ruhle, i know you loo i c like this one. Massachusetts governor gary, he approved, declaring the s itself district looks like a salamander. They coined the term gary mander. Either way the name and the concept stuck. Joining us now, pete williams. Republican legislatures were accused of racial gerrymander to disadvantage black voters. Explain what happened today. Well, they lost in a threejudge panel. The last census district lines for the state house and state senate were unconstitutional because they took race into account of the disadvantage of minority voters. The court redo its own map and the state basically said okay, we give up. We are not going to appeal that. Today the Supreme Court says sorry. A single house for the Virginia Legislature cant carry this fight on in the states name. So there is not a lot of new ground broken here. For one thing the Supreme Court has years for at least 30 or 40 years, struck down state house and senate and Congressional Districts as unconstitutional racial gerrymandering. That was the issue in this case before it got to the Supreme Court. All the Supreme Court ruling stands for who gets to appeal in a case like that. There is no immediate practice in virginia because they had an election on tuesday using the old map. The state will draw entirely new ones. This is a racial gerrymandering. This is not a partisan gerrymandering. Thats a big one. Is this a surprise . I dont think so, the Supreme Court is asked to put a hold on that court drawn map. It allowed the current map go into effect and that was an Early Warning of the republicans in virginia that theyre not going to prevail. Pete williams for us on the issue of racial gerrymandering. Well discuss it another day. Coming up next, President Trump is trailing joe biden in several polls. 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We needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. avo subaru outback. Ninety eight percent are still on the road after 10 years. Come on mom, lets go welcome back to velshi ruhle. A live look at washington, d. C. Any moment now 2020 contender, joe biden will speak at the forum hosted by the Poor Peoples Campaign. Well bring you joe bidens speech as soon as it begins. Eight other president ial candidates are also speaking at the event today. We are nine days away from the first 2020 democratic debate. Voters are speaking out. President obama if recall won pennsylvania in 2008 and 2012. President trump took the state in 2016, now it is one of the handful states where trump is trailing joe biden. The real clear politics average puts trump ten points behind biden in pennsylvania. It is a long time away. Will joe biden be the contender . Exactly. Our news road warriors are talking to voters across the country. Joining us our friend, host of nbc, savannah, you are in a red district in a swing state. Support for donald trump there, what is it looking like . Reporter last night we came out to talk to voters at the blue festival to see what they thought. People were very, very split. He regrets not having left the party during the 2016 primary in order to vote for senator sanders. Generally people are very split. Take a listen. People were angry. Trump is doing a great job. In district, do you think that most people have been pretty happy or are ready for a change . I have spoke to people thats disappointed and have one set of values in mind and they seen those set of values not come to be. I think because of that, i think theyre disappointed that their vote did not turn out. Reporter so that gentleman at the end there, he says hes ready for a change and for him that change is biden. Right next to him was a friend of his who was a republican and says hes very happy with trump and that value they were discussing at the end. They had the issue on twitter. That gentleman was a dispatcher at a garbage company. He says his truck driver is happy with the situation right now. People are okay in a very calm and respectful manner disagreeing with each other. People that known each other for years, it was a cool event to go out and to talk to voters. Deceacross the board does itm like one issue rising for voters . If it is Something Like the economy, some may say it works for them and others say it does not. Right, we know we heard people, there was a ton of different issues that they cared about. Nothing at the top. You heard there. Other discussed Climate Change and for them thats about hope for the next generation. He said hes guns on the Second Amendment are important to him. I asked him, would you be okay of a moderate plan to restrict some automatic weapons and he says yes. He would be. They run the gamete of issue to them here. Savannah thank you for being out there for us. Stay tuned on snap chat. I am trying to i am not so great on snap chat. Snap chat and facebook. You are Getting Better on instagram. He instagramed things that ended right there. I am Getting Better. I am quite good at instagram. As President Trump getting ready to launch his campaign tomorrow night in florida. House democrats are speeding up their efforts to tackle election security. Nancy pelosi says her members has a package of bills theyll be voting on in the coming weeks. Sumter county, florida reportedly hacked by the russians ahead of the 2016 elections. Ke Kerry Sanders spoke with the democrats and republicans in the ruby red county. Here he is from the big Retirement Community in the country. The villages. They call it the disney land for adults. Disney land for adults. Reporter smacked down in the middle of florida in between orlando and tampa is Sumter County, one of the oldest populations and most republican places in the country. In a county of a high voter turn out. There was some evidence that it could have been hacked during the 2016 elections. According to the miami herald. Sumter giving careful answers about potential acts. Leaving the devine along party lines. Chris stanley runs the Democratic Club at the villages. When it came out. I said there is no way. Why Sumter County . It makes no sense. Now there seems to

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