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MSNBCW NewsNation February 5, 2015

Lets talk about this nbc news that weve been able to confirm. Jordan has launched new air strikes today against targets in syria. Obviously we heard that they would seek revenge as a result of that death of the pilot and now were seeing more action. King abdullah who is a very close u. S. Ally has vowed to to take a relentless response against Islamic State after the murder horrific murder of the pilot and the day after the video was released we saw two being executed and the ramping up of the air strikes by the Jordanian Air force and hes following through on that vow. To your point, to the two executions already. Jordan is saying that it will perhaps execute another four individuals here but the targets within syria, do we know anymore about those targets . Very little detail on what exactly the targets were but the the strikes were very heavily covered in the jordanian press on state tv and kind of a notion about them. The king sunday a lot of pressure to respond. Theres been massive revulsion about the brutal murder of the pilot who has become somewhat of a National Hero so these strikes were kind of part of the king and the governments effort to show the nation that they were responding. Our own Andrea Mitchell reported last night that there were some Key Coalition members, particularly the United Arab Emirates works stopped flying combat missions back in december after this pilot was captured. They complained that the pentagon did not have a searchandrescue team nearby or special concern to the uae and many of its pilots especially because some of the Fighter Pilots were women. Do you know any more about Key Coalition members being unhappy with the pentagons response . Well we havent so far as far as we can tell the members of the arab nations who are in the coalition except for the United Arab Emirates have remained in the coalition, and today we saw jordan participating, but this is very very important to the pentagon to the white house indeed to have arab nations participating in these bombing runs so it doesnt just look like a u. S. Or a western operation, so they they very much need jordan in these countries as much it provides a substantial political cover as well as being a Strategic Asset of sorts. We just heard from president obama ast the National Prayer breakfast and he went on to see weve seen violence perpetrated by those who profess to stand up to the faith making the distinction here that this is not about religion that these are coldblooded individuals who want to carry out terror. Many believe that the death the brutal death of the pilot is a turning moment perhaps to challenge other arab nations to do more. What are you hearing from the region regarding that . I think theres no question that theres massive revulsion in the region at the very barbaric act, particularly among governments, but Islamic State has a varied audience. Its trying to send out a message to those governments that if you send your pilots on these missions and they get captured that this is the fate they will face and thats a rather frightening prospect for any country and its also trying to capitalize and double up on its image as more brutal than anyone else something they have gained a lot of recruits from and they got that message out, and they also i think want to show at a time when they have been losing ground on the battle field in iraq and syria that they are still a poe temp force and they put out a video and one an hour the president of the United States is reacting. From their standpoint however macabre, this may be a success. Thank you and certainly appreciate your reporting this morning, patrick. Thank you. My pleasure. Were waiting to hear from the ntsb for an update on the deadly train crash in new york on tuesday as federal investigators figure out what happened there. Theres still a lot of questions about why el enbrodie, a 49yearold mother of three drove her suv on the tracks right into the path of the on coming train. They will also have to determine why the crash yanked one of the rails out of ground and through the floor of one of the rail cars. The ntsb has downloaded data from a train recorder and a second was sent off for analysis. Investigators will use information from the train and the crossing signals to figure out what happened there. Now, according to the New York Times nationally, Railroad Crossing accidents have dropped 32 from 2004 to 2013 but that is not the case for the three major commuter trains in new york region. In 2004 there were 26 accidents. That increased to 28 in 2013. Nbcs tom costello has the latest on tuesdays accident from Westchester Medical Center where several victims are still hospitalized. Yeah, tamron good day from a very snowy Westchester County and the Medical Center behind me where they have been treating eight of the victims who remained overnight with lacerations, burns and open fractures. Meanwhile at crash site itself investigators have now removed the wreckage from the train tracks, but the ntsbs job now is try to dissect everything every peeves evidence and figure out why this accident happened in the first place. It took nearly 24 hours for crews to remove the suv that had been virtually impaled on the front end of a metro north commuter train. Witnesses say the drivers 49yearold ellen brodie may have been caught on the tracks in a traffic backup tuesday night. Right behind her in traffic rick hope who saw brodie get out of her car after the crossing arm came down on the suv. She looked at me. I gestured to come back. I backed up again further to even indicate that theres plenty of room to back up and she turned walks and gets back in the car. Instead of backing up she pulled forward right into the path of an on coming train. In a massive fireball the train carried the suv 1,000 feet down the tracks yanking the electrified third rail out of the ground and driving it like a spike right through the floor of the first train car and part of the second. Already ntsb investigators have recovered data recorders from the train and the crossing signal. Two big questions, why was the car on the train tracks and what caused this accident. Ellen brodie was married with three daughter and worked at a nearby jewelry store. She was the most warm person. She was kind. She was a great mom. Her husband alan posting on facebook thank you to those who share your condolences to the tragedy that took my beloved wife ellen whom so many of you now. Five passengers on the train were killed among them walter litky, a curator of american paintings at the u. S. Metropolitan of air and Eric Vandercar and eric dirks, a Research Scientist with a wife and two young children. We spoke to his father overnight. All a father could ever want and having had him in my life for 36 years, it was great, absolutely great joy. Reporter ntsb is hoping to interview the conductor and engineer as soon as possible. At this point there is no suggestion that the crew members on the train were in any way responsible for this crash, and as you probably know the metro north train line on the harlem line reopened today for full service, although operating with some delays. Larry mann joins us now, an attorney and leading author of the federal Railroad Safety act back in 1979. Thanks for joining us. Good morning. Im sure you heard the ntsb doesnt believe the crew did anything wrong but there were questions about the rails and why the rail was yanked out of ground. What do you think are the key questions . First of all, hopefully this will be a wakeup call to the whole country. Its disheartening that nothing has been done for many years when everyone in the country who is involved in rail safety knows that the dangers exist. That were over 2,000 accidents at crottings last year. Over 200 deaths and close to 1,000 injuries. They are preventible. First of all, there has been congress has enacted legislation mandating positive train control. That would have prevented this accident had it been in place. Explain that to our audience. Its a gpstype system whereby if something is in the way of a train, whether it be a car, a boulder or some other train, the technology would have stopped the train before it reached that problem and also there are many ways that you could prevent cars from entering the crossings. Jersey wall is one example to prevent a car from going around crossings. The congress for example has barriers to prevent any car from entering into its area. You can prevent a car from entering into the area by putting up barriers well in advance of the crossing so there are many ways that this can be protected. I blame congress. I blame the department of transportation, and i blame the Railroad Industry. Congress has known for many many years about this problem. First of all, it could have funded protection at crossings. The federal railroad administration, the federal Highway Administration have jurisdiction over crossings. They could have mandated improvements at crossings, and the Railroad Industry could have done their job in preventing this accident. But let me pause you there. The New York Times is reporting though nationally Railroad Crossing accidents have dropped 32 from 2004 to 2013 that theres been a decrease. Not just the three major commuter lines in new york but overall a 32 decrease. Think about it 200 deaths in the Rail Industry from crossings last year. Thats almost four deaths a week. Is that tolerable . I suspect, i dont know but i suspect that there hasnt been that many deaths in the military this year. Its a tragedy that needs to be addressed, and hopefully this accident will force people to take action. Larry mann thank you so much for joining us the principal author of the federal Railroad Safety act of 1970. Well continue to follow the latest on the ntsb investigation out of new york on that deadly train crash there. Thank you very much for your insight and knowledge. We really appreciate it. Another massive cyber attack, this time on one of the nations Largest Health providers. The fbi is warning millions of anthem insurance customers to report any suspicious activity after whats being called a very sophisticated cyber attack. Nbcs justice correspondent Pete Williams joins us and anthem says it does not look like any medical or credit card information was compromised so what was taken . A lot of other personal information, anthem says which would include names and addresses, dates of bird Social Security numbers, phone numbers email addresses and even Employment Information including income. The Company Website has set up a special website called anthem anthemfacts. Com and the president and ceo of the company says his information was among the information compromised. Anthem says they are in the process of trying to figure out how many customers were actually affected. Its going to email them and send them a letter and in the meantime it says be aware that this may have happened. Keep an eye on the credit reports and do the things that you may have to do if your datara is compromised. Developing now, a new york judge is deciding whether to release see contract grand jury documents of eric garner after the officer involved was not indicted. Well speak with attorney general john burres and the latest controversy over vaccines. Two california lawmakers want to limit vaccine exemptions coming as the number of measles cases in that state increases. Plus the socalled benjamin button special for kids who misbehaved. A jordan barber is offering what they are calling an old man haircut to humiliate the kids. This is real thought it was a fake story, apparently its real, and its our newsnation gut check. Is humiliation a proper way to discipline . Join our conversation online. Can you find it newsnation and find me on Facebook Twitter and instagram. 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However, the District Attorney presided over the grand jury process Daniel Donovan is opposed to the release arguing that many of the witnesses same forward and testified with full assurances of secrecy. And joining me now is civil rights attorney john burres who handled several civil rights cases including the rodney king lawsuit. Thanks so much for joining us. Good morning. Lets start here with what they are arguing. The nyclu, among oh, saying this will restore Public Confidence in the criminal Justice System. What is your take here . Well i think its important for it to occur. I would agree with that position. I dont know that it restores confidence. Its just a window into the criminal Justice System that i think Everyone Needs to know. Im a Firm Believer that family members need to know what happened to their loved ones. The public needs to know whether or not you can at least have a fair hearing about this and whether we are Holding Police officers accountable so this is very important, particularly as nature of the grand jury. You dont know how they decide these cases. You dont know who so its important that the grand jury testimony is given out. Im not sure you need a grand jury in thesecations. Transparency is important and particularly in a case that received the National Attention that you have because what you have is a video camera where you can basically see and for a decision to be rendered as contrary to what we can all see really requires us to have an opportunity to hear what the testimony was so its very very important. John, new york state law on grand juries we have an excerpt from the grand jurors handbook saying proceedings are secret and no grand juror or any other person specified in this section or sections of the penal law may accept in the lawful discharge of his duties or upon written order of the court disclose the nature or substance of any grand jury testimony evident for any decision so this is really what the prosecutor is basing his response to this claim and that these people were provided assurances of secrecy so they would come in and testify. I would understand that the grand jury has always operated in a secrecy fashion and it doesnt then be an exception that a judge can make given the nature of a particular case. Its clear that you can in fact extract out or at least didact the names of the individual witnesses, but i think its important for the public to know what testimony in fact was solicited at this trial and how it was given so theres no question though that that might ultimately require some kind of legislative action because the grand jury secrecy is pretty well established throughout the country, both on the federal and on the state level exsfept theres a case. If theres a criminal case that ultimately those documents will be turned over. Now it seems to me if you can turn them over at a later point in a criminal case theres no reason why you couldnt turn it over at this point in time because grand jurors testimony will be turned over in a criminal case so why shouldnt it be able to be turned over so there are exceptions and i think its important in a case like that that has received such National Attention and particularly in fact when you have what we what we see and then a decision thats contrary to that that the public ought to know how could that happen. Right. And what kind of testimony. So thats how i think its important. Given your knowledge and expertise, do you believe the judge will eventually unseal this grand jury document here . I think the judge lunn seal in a limited way. He

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