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Those sites have been taken down while they try to figure out what to do next. It is embarrassing. Theres a significant difference between a large data breach and the hacking of a twitter account. You tube and twitter accounts for the u. S. Military Central Command are suspended this afternoon following a hack hours ago by isis sympathizers. While its unclear whether the hack went any further than social media shenanigans, it is a very public humiliation for the u. S. Government coming on the same day the u. S. President called for new legislation to bolster security. Criticism the u. S. Ambassador to france was the highest level american president at yesterdays unity rally in paris, one that featured dozens of World Leaders. Today the white house admitted it had made a mistake. I think its fair to say we should have sent someone with a higher profile to be there. That said there is no doubt that the American People and this administration stand four square behind our allies in france as they face down this threat. John kerry said hell travel to paris thursday and friday for a show of solidarity. According to Associated Press reports, French Police believe as many as six members of the french terror cell may still be at large. Joining me now is the associate editor for the Washington Post and director and president of the Woodrow Wilson center. How reliable do you think countries like turkey can be as the western world and specifically france intelligence tries to trace where these folks are . Lets start with what the claim is that there are six people. That could be true and there could be 60 people. We obviously need better intelligence than weve had, and the way to get that is Cooperation Among all the governments that are on the side of civilized nations against isil. Turkey can be more helpful because turkey is the border with syria, and thats where this woman crossed. Im guessing turkey didnt have full information that shes a person of interest and thats a glitch we have to close. David, let me ask you in terms of jane just referred to isil. We have heard mention of al qaeda and aqap. That is a question were going to return to a lot in the show today, but a lot of folks in the west seem to understand the divide between isis and aqap and have a hard time wrapping their heads around the notion that two of the fighters could have been one from isis and one from aqap and the divide between those two organizations is almost tangential. It is almost the banner of jihadism that united them. This divide that we see might not be substantive in this case. How do you read that situation . My analysis is that you need to think of this terrorism problem from the ground up in terms of the local gangs that are operating. In this case in the north of paris where the men who attacked the kosher deli seem to have or originate originated. You have groups of disaffected young people who may be a part of a mosque or may spin off into a subsidiary line with some kind of spiritual leader. You have facilitators who surround those people who could be drawn into broader jihadist activities. Once upon a time there was a sharper dividing line between a aqap and other jihadist groups. This is the best example weve had yet where where they were trained and facilitated by aqap. I think the french who were im sure embarrassed they didnt know more about this network, didnt track it more carefully, are working 24 7 to recruit, understand get inside it. You need to have better relationships with the people be they governments or groups in north african Arab Community across france. When we talk about recruit recruitment recruitment, one of the areas where isis has been successful is social media networks. Hacking of twitter accounts may not mean much for u. S. National security, but a recruitment tool showing isis can hack into a Public Portal for the United States military unified command. How meaningful do you think that is . It is very meaningful. People just crowing about how they got inside centcom. Let me add a couple things to that. These are public accounts. The tweets and youtube are not the classified networks that our military uses so this is embarrassing, but it is not a fundamental breach of national security. Theyve also been hacking into small newspapers around the country. It worries me that social media and certainly these magazines like inspire, which is a magazine al awlaki are recruiting tools for the bad guys. We have to get better at using social media, penetrateing their sites, and counter narratives. Let me say one other thing about aqap and isil and other groups. David is right about this. Think in terms of the chart. Not a top down command and control network. Thats not what we have in terrorsprks inc. It is loosely based groups attached horizontally. Turkey has had a very ambivalent policy about isil. Finally, its being more helpful in policing the border. What really worries about these affiliations to yemen is the bomb maker is still alive and well despite being on the u. S. Most wanted lists and other most wanted lists for a long time. Hes the guy who invented the underwear bomb for the underwear bomber. I worry terribly that something that could cause higher consequences could be transferred to some of these folks in the west and we have to worry about bombs. We have to worry about loose nukes from pakistan and theres a whole range of things that we now, on a joint basis, have to have our intelligence eyes and ears are looking for. Youre talking about the changing nature of the enemy here. I wonder what you thought of eric holders refuelsal to say that the United States is at war with radical islam. Explain to me what you think the calculation is behind not acknowledgeing that. I think red hot rhetoric like a war on terrorism, or a new war on terrorism, is read as a war on muslims. Its not, but they read it that way. Theres a way in which this problem of young jihadist youth is like young gang oriented youth in los angeles, east los angeles, or in mexico or in colombia colombia. I know our Law Enforcement intelligence officials are looking carefully about what colombia did to turn a super violent narco problem around. I think the idea of turning this into a war using military rhetoric takes us down a road the United States went down after september 11th, 2001. As we have seen, thats a bumpy road with a lot of mistakes. I think the United States and attorney general eric holder is right to caution about that kind of rhetoric. You need to be smarter this time around and understand much of the work is not military. Its not even going to be done by governments. Its going to be done by people in these communities. The question is how do you facilitate them with out delegit delegitmiezing or stigmatizing them. Do you think that is part of a broader calculation to separate america from this in some way . I guess i wonder when you see netanyahu and hollande in linked arms what would the idea be . Obama, michelle obama, joe biden, bill clinton, george bush. There were a lot of options of high level people who have their head in this game and would have send a very strong message. That photo op was very meaningful. You were talking about social media. What messages are we sending . We need to send a message and the rhetoric was there last week. John kerry was very powerful in english and french that we stand shoulder to shoulder with our oldest ally. But it meant a lot to me to see the president of mali right in the front row with all the others. One other thing about muslim communities, we have done a pretty good job in the United States, a better job than france has, in Building Trust with muslim communities. The l. A. Pd has built bridges to the Muslim Community, which is fairly large in the los angeles area, and built trust by doing that. Community policing can work. That means that these communities, when they see something in their own families or in their neighbors families that looks weird, talks to Law Enforcement. Law a david is right. We have to keep the rhetoric down, but we also have to keep the messages to the Muslim Community positive. Were going to talk more about the prison in paris as a breeding ground for jihadists. When we come back, the video that might show frances most wanted woman on her way to syria syria. Well discuss the hunt for potential accomplices, plus the other terror attacks you havent heard about. Boca haram used a child as a suicide bomber. 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As 10,000 French Security forces are deployed at sensitive sites around the country, today two french Officials Say as many as six terror cell members could still be at large. It comes after french Prime Minister warned that Amedi Coulibaly had one or more accomplices. His common law wife hayat, boumeddiene, fled the country prior to attacks. While investigators probe ties to global terror networks, much of the radicalization appears to have occurred at home. Cherif, the younger of the two kouachi brothers, was radicalized. It could have been a personal bond that formed the basis of their collaboration. As evidence of that, kouachi said he was financed by the Arabian Peninsula while coulibaly pledged alliance to isis. This is a distinction without a difference. The super bosses may be wrapped up in these ideological fights but the followers are not. Lets first talk about the reports from the ap that there may be as many as six more members of this terror cell on the run. Is that surprising to you in any way . It is not so surprising. We dont know all the details yet, but we all saw the video of the two brothers. There was the other attack by coulibaly. There was a lot of question marks on whether they were connected or not. Intelligence is key. Following every single detail getting into the whole communication sphere. Who did they communicate with before . And i mean the paris terrorists. Likely even in the middle east that is all to be determined later. We have this video potentially of Hayat Boumeddiene heading into syria. Granted this has been a really fluid situation, but for French Intelligence Services which have had these guys on their radar for years, how do you grade the response thus far understanding that there are a lot of moving pieces . Is it surprise is it surprising that this video is only coming out now . Is this a reasonable timeline for this to be revealed . It is honestly a little bit confusing. She might have departed to syria before the operation took place. It might have been in the plot that she would depart to syria before these attacks. She could become this widow to try to take revenge in the future or a welcome in a jihadist war zone. Its been really convoluted and confusing. If turkey had a pretty close eye on her, they would know exactly where she was headed. This reflects there is not intelligence sharing going on between turkey and france or at least not coordinated the way one would hope it would be . Theres lots of pockets of information that are not clear. We really need to get the intelligence apparatus in turkey to provide all the information they have for the french authorities to conduct a much thorough investigation into this larger plot. Clint watts from the Foreign Policy Research Institute writes that the manifestation of the al qaeda social movement is held together by three sources. The second is the unending call for jihad and the third is the wests failure to adapt to the wicked problem of nonstate threats. Syria is a very thorny Foreign Policy concern. The third piece about the wests failure to adapt to nonstate problems in a networked world i think theres a precedent in dealing with this. If we go back to the late 18th early 1900s, when dealing with the anarchist problem, there has been the lone wolf anarchists who conducted terrorist operations. Before he was killed he encouraged comrades to do the same. Over 100 years later, we see this problem with jihadist terrorism, if you will or by individuals who rely on radical interpretations of the koran to conduct their operations. I think the west has yet to catch up with the entire ideology and the mere fact that we dont see just a specific group of people joining, people from all classes, all nations, from the west and the middle east, it is a much bigger problem than the anarchist problem was back then and it is a problem that is seeping into all different societies. We have to have a holistic approach when dealing with this problem. We also need to create a counter narrative that would be carried out by the youngsters in the middle east and north africa that are being impacted by terrorism. That seems like a very complex and longterm solution but certainly one that would be effective, if it was in place. Its good to see you. Thank you iffor your time. The man who was acquitted for murdering Trayvon Martin is arrested for aggravated assault once again. That is just ahead. Major ok fitness class heres our new trainer ensure active heart health. Crowd yayyyy heart im going to focus on the heart. 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Preferred pricing on merrill edge online trades and more. Across your banking and investing get used to getting more. Thats the power of more rewarding connections thats preferred rewards from bank of america. We have some breaking news to report on the 2016 president ial field. Paul ryan has decided not to run for president in 2016. Mitt romneys 2012 running mate says republicans have a number of capable candidates who have every ability to become president. Sources on friday told casey hunt that the former governor and twotime republican loser may be complicating a third bid. Just ahead, the brothers who attacked Charlie Hebdo said they were from al qaedas branch in yemen. Why arent the leaders from that group claiming responsibility . N average adult lifetime thats 221,314 cubes of sugar. But you can help change that with a simple choice. Drink more water. Filtered by brita. And introducing our new advanced filter, now better than ever. Can this decadent, fruit topped pastry. With indulgent streusel crumble, be from. Fiber one. Fiber one streusel. Tell the media that this is al qaeda in yemen. That is what the kouachi brothers shouted to onlookers on wednesday. In the days following the attack in addition to being radicalized in france they had perhaps traveled to yemen. Before he was killed by French Security forces Cherif Kouachi said it was al awlaki who had financed his trip to yemen. Aqap directed the operation against Charlie Hebdo, but an audio recording praised the attack but stopped short of taking responsibility for it. Joining me now is the author of the book dirty wars the world is a battlefield. Its always good to see you. Good to see you. Lets talk about what your working thesis is on aqaps involvement in this. They have official channels they do that through. It is attributeed to the Central Command<\/a> are suspended this afternoon following a hack hours ago by isis sympathizers. While its unclear whether the hack went any further than social media shenanigans, it is a very public humiliation for the u. S. Government coming on the same day the u. S. President called for new legislation to bolster security. Criticism the u. S. Ambassador to france was the highest level american president at yesterdays unity rally in paris, one that featured dozens of World Leaders<\/a>. Today the white house admitted it had made a mistake. I think its fair to say we should have sent someone with a higher profile to be there. That said there is no doubt that the American People<\/a> and this administration stand four square behind our allies in france as they face down this threat. John kerry said hell travel to paris thursday and friday for a show of solidarity. According to Associated Press<\/a> reports, French Police<\/a> believe as many as six members of the french terror cell may still be at large. Joining me now is the associate editor for the Washington Post<\/a> and director and president of the Woodrow Wilson<\/a> center. How reliable do you think countries like turkey can be as the western world and specifically france intelligence tries to trace where these folks are . Lets start with what the claim is that there are six people. That could be true and there could be 60 people. We obviously need better intelligence than weve had, and the way to get that is Cooperation Among<\/a> all the governments that are on the side of civilized nations against isil. Turkey can be more helpful because turkey is the border with syria, and thats where this woman crossed. Im guessing turkey didnt have full information that shes a person of interest and thats a glitch we have to close. David, let me ask you in terms of jane just referred to isil. We have heard mention of al qaeda and aqap. That is a question were going to return to a lot in the show today, but a lot of folks in the west seem to understand the divide between isis and aqap and have a hard time wrapping their heads around the notion that two of the fighters could have been one from isis and one from aqap and the divide between those two organizations is almost tangential. It is almost the banner of jihadism that united them. This divide that we see might not be substantive in this case. How do you read that situation . My analysis is that you need to think of this terrorism problem from the ground up in terms of the local gangs that are operating. In this case in the north of paris where the men who attacked the kosher deli seem to have or originate originated. You have groups of disaffected young people who may be a part of a mosque or may spin off into a subsidiary line with some kind of spiritual leader. You have facilitators who surround those people who could be drawn into broader jihadist activities. Once upon a time there was a sharper dividing line between a aqap and other jihadist groups. This is the best example weve had yet where where they were trained and facilitated by aqap. I think the french who were im sure embarrassed they didnt know more about this network, didnt track it more carefully, are working 24 7 to recruit, understand get inside it. You need to have better relationships with the people be they governments or groups in north african Arab Community<\/a> across france. When we talk about recruit recruitment recruitment, one of the areas where isis has been successful is social media networks. Hacking of twitter accounts may not mean much for u. S. National security, but a recruitment tool showing isis can hack into a Public Portal<\/a> for the United States<\/a> military unified command. How meaningful do you think that is . It is very meaningful. People just crowing about how they got inside centcom. Let me add a couple things to that. These are public accounts. The tweets and youtube are not the classified networks that our military uses so this is embarrassing, but it is not a fundamental breach of national security. Theyve also been hacking into small newspapers around the country. It worries me that social media and certainly these magazines like inspire, which is a magazine al awlaki are recruiting tools for the bad guys. We have to get better at using social media, penetrateing their sites, and counter narratives. Let me say one other thing about aqap and isil and other groups. David is right about this. Think in terms of the chart. Not a top down command and control network. Thats not what we have in terrorsprks inc. It is loosely based groups attached horizontally. Turkey has had a very ambivalent policy about isil. Finally, its being more helpful in policing the border. What really worries about these affiliations to yemen is the bomb maker is still alive and well despite being on the u. S. Most wanted lists and other most wanted lists for a long time. Hes the guy who invented the underwear bomb for the underwear bomber. I worry terribly that something that could cause higher consequences could be transferred to some of these folks in the west and we have to worry about bombs. We have to worry about loose nukes from pakistan and theres a whole range of things that we now, on a joint basis, have to have our intelligence eyes and ears are looking for. Youre talking about the changing nature of the enemy here. I wonder what you thought of eric holders refuelsal to say that the United States<\/a> is at war with radical islam. Explain to me what you think the calculation is behind not acknowledgeing that. I think red hot rhetoric like a war on terrorism, or a new war on terrorism, is read as a war on muslims. Its not, but they read it that way. Theres a way in which this problem of young jihadist youth is like young gang oriented youth in los angeles, east los angeles, or in mexico or in colombia colombia. I know our Law Enforcement<\/a> intelligence officials are looking carefully about what colombia did to turn a super violent narco problem around. I think the idea of turning this into a war using military rhetoric takes us down a road the United States<\/a> went down after september 11th, 2001. As we have seen, thats a bumpy road with a lot of mistakes. I think the United States<\/a> and attorney general eric holder is right to caution about that kind of rhetoric. You need to be smarter this time around and understand much of the work is not military. Its not even going to be done by governments. Its going to be done by people in these communities. The question is how do you facilitate them with out delegit delegitmiezing or stigmatizing them. Do you think that is part of a broader calculation to separate america from this in some way . I guess i wonder when you see netanyahu and hollande in linked arms what would the idea be . Obama, michelle obama, joe biden, bill clinton, george bush. There were a lot of options of high level people who have their head in this game and would have send a very strong message. That photo op was very meaningful. You were talking about social media. What messages are we sending . We need to send a message and the rhetoric was there last week. John kerry was very powerful in english and french that we stand shoulder to shoulder with our oldest ally. But it meant a lot to me to see the president of mali right in the front row with all the others. One other thing about muslim communities, we have done a pretty good job in the United States<\/a>, a better job than france has, in Building Trust<\/a> with muslim communities. The l. A. Pd has built bridges to the Muslim Community<\/a>, which is fairly large in the los angeles area, and built trust by doing that. Community policing can work. That means that these communities, when they see something in their own families or in their neighbors families that looks weird, talks to Law Enforcement<\/a>. Law a david is right. We have to keep the rhetoric down, but we also have to keep the messages to the Muslim Community<\/a> positive. Were going to talk more about the prison in paris as a breeding ground for jihadists. When we come back, the video that might show frances most wanted woman on her way to syria syria. Well discuss the hunt for potential accomplices, plus the other terror attacks you havent heard about. Boca haram used a child as a suicide bomber. House republicans are looking to roll back years of reform on immigration. Callahans . Ehh, i mean get away. Like away away. Road trip . Double wings, extra ranch. It feels good to mix it up. The allnew, fuelefficient Volkswagen Golf<\/a> tdi clean diesel. Up to 594 miles of adventure in every tank. Introducing the allnew Volkswagen Golf<\/a> family. 2015 motor trend car of the year. [ hoof beats ] i wish. Please, please, please, please, please. [ male announcer ] the wish we wish above all. Is health. So we quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. Expanded minuteclinic for walkin medical care. And created programs that encourage people to take their medications regularly. Introducing cvs health. A new purpose. A new promise. To help all those wishes come true. Cvs health. Because health is everything. Stamps. Com is the best. As 10,000 French Security<\/a> forces are deployed at sensitive sites around the country, today two french Officials Say<\/a> as many as six terror cell members could still be at large. It comes after french Prime Minister<\/a> warned that Amedi Coulibaly<\/a> had one or more accomplices. His common law wife hayat, boumeddiene, fled the country prior to attacks. While investigators probe ties to global terror networks, much of the radicalization appears to have occurred at home. Cherif, the younger of the two kouachi brothers, was radicalized. It could have been a personal bond that formed the basis of their collaboration. As evidence of that, kouachi said he was financed by the Arabian Peninsula<\/a> while coulibaly pledged alliance to isis. This is a distinction without a difference. The super bosses may be wrapped up in these ideological fights but the followers are not. Lets first talk about the reports from the ap that there may be as many as six more members of this terror cell on the run. Is that surprising to you in any way . It is not so surprising. We dont know all the details yet, but we all saw the video of the two brothers. There was the other attack by coulibaly. There was a lot of question marks on whether they were connected or not. Intelligence is key. Following every single detail getting into the whole communication sphere. Who did they communicate with before . And i mean the paris terrorists. Likely even in the middle east that is all to be determined later. We have this video potentially of Hayat Boumeddiene<\/a> heading into syria. Granted this has been a really fluid situation, but for French Intelligence Services<\/a> which have had these guys on their radar for years, how do you grade the response thus far understanding that there are a lot of moving pieces . Is it surprise is it surprising that this video is only coming out now . Is this a reasonable timeline for this to be revealed . It is honestly a little bit confusing. She might have departed to syria before the operation took place. It might have been in the plot that she would depart to syria before these attacks. She could become this widow to try to take revenge in the future or a welcome in a jihadist war zone. Its been really convoluted and confusing. If turkey had a pretty close eye on her, they would know exactly where she was headed. This reflects there is not intelligence sharing going on between turkey and france or at least not coordinated the way one would hope it would be . Theres lots of pockets of information that are not clear. We really need to get the intelligence apparatus in turkey to provide all the information they have for the french authorities to conduct a much thorough investigation into this larger plot. Clint watts from the Foreign Policy<\/a> Research Institute<\/a> writes that the manifestation of the al qaeda social movement is held together by three sources. The second is the unending call for jihad and the third is the wests failure to adapt to the wicked problem of nonstate threats. Syria is a very thorny Foreign Policy<\/a> concern. The third piece about the wests failure to adapt to nonstate problems in a networked world i think theres a precedent in dealing with this. If we go back to the late 18th early 1900s, when dealing with the anarchist problem, there has been the lone wolf anarchists who conducted terrorist operations. Before he was killed he encouraged comrades to do the same. Over 100 years later, we see this problem with jihadist terrorism, if you will or by individuals who rely on radical interpretations of the koran to conduct their operations. I think the west has yet to catch up with the entire ideology and the mere fact that we dont see just a specific group of people joining, people from all classes, all nations, from the west and the middle east, it is a much bigger problem than the anarchist problem was back then and it is a problem that is seeping into all different societies. We have to have a holistic approach when dealing with this problem. We also need to create a counter narrative that would be carried out by the youngsters in the middle east and north africa that are being impacted by terrorism. That seems like a very complex and longterm solution but certainly one that would be effective, if it was in place. Its good to see you. Thank you iffor your time. The man who was acquitted for murdering Trayvon Martin<\/a> is arrested for aggravated assault once again. That is just ahead. Major ok fitness class heres our new trainer ensure active heart health. Crowd yayyyy heart im going to focus on the heart. I minimize my sodium and fat. Gotta keep it lean and mean. Pear uhoh. Heart i maximize good stuff like my potassium. And phytosterols, which may help lower cholesterol. Major im feeling energized already. New delicious ensure active heart Health Supports<\/a> your heart and body, so you stay active and strong. Ensure. Take life in. I dont know my credit score. Thats really important. I mean i dont know my credit score. Dont you want to buy a house. Like, ever . You should probably check out credit karma, its free. Credit . Karma . Free . Credit karma. Really free credit scores. Thanks. [ male announcer ] fedex\u00ae has solutions to enable Global Commerce<\/a> that can help your company grow steadily and quickly. Great job. mandarin cut it out. See you tomorrow. Ameriprise asked people a simple question can you keep your lifestyle in retirement . I dont want to think about the alternative. I dont even know how to answer that. I mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. I try not to worry but you worry. What happens when your paychecks stop . Because everyone has retirement questions. Ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. To get the real answers you need. Start building your confident retirement today. Is your highperformance laptop your office bff . Then you might be gearcentric. Right now, all pcs are on sale, like this hp 15 laptop now only 249. 99. Office depot officemax. Gear up for great. The question i get get the most is probably, do you feel fear . Whats the closest you have ever come to death . Theyre boring. I have a website because i need a way to put myself forward in my own way. This is my story and and this is how i want to share it with people. Im alex honnold and this is my squarespace. Introducing preferred rewards from bank of america the new banking rewards program that rewards our customers, every day. Youll get things like rewards bonuses on credit cards. Extra interest on a savings account. Preferred pricing on merrill edge online trades and more. Across your banking and investing get used to getting more. Thats the power of more rewarding connections thats preferred rewards from bank of america. We have some breaking news to report on the 2016 president ial field. Paul ryan has decided not to run for president in 2016. Mitt romneys 2012 running mate says republicans have a number of capable candidates who have every ability to become president. Sources on friday told casey hunt that the former governor and twotime republican loser may be complicating a third bid. Just ahead, the brothers who attacked Charlie Hebdo<\/a> said they were from al qaedas branch in yemen. Why arent the leaders from that group claiming responsibility . N average adult lifetime thats 221,314 cubes of sugar. But you can help change that with a simple choice. Drink more water. Filtered by brita. And introducing our new advanced filter, now better than ever. Can this decadent, fruit topped pastry. With indulgent streusel crumble, be from. Fiber one. Fiber one streusel. Tell the media that this is al qaeda in yemen. That is what the kouachi brothers shouted to onlookers on wednesday. In the days following the attack in addition to being radicalized in france they had perhaps traveled to yemen. Before he was killed by French Security<\/a> forces Cherif Kouachi<\/a> said it was al awlaki who had financed his trip to yemen. Aqap directed the operation against Charlie Hebdo<\/a>, but an audio recording praised the attack but stopped short of taking responsibility for it. Joining me now is the author of the book dirty wars the world is a battlefield. Its always good to see you. Good to see you. Lets talk about what your working thesis is on aqaps involvement in this. They have official channels they do that through. It is attributeed to the Senior Leadership<\/a> of the organization. It is either accompanyied by a video or they make a statement. He goes on that plane and there was all sorts of aqap saying we did this we did this. It wasnt until four months later that aqap released an official we did this statement. Over the past year aqap has shifted the way that they take responsibility for attacks from traditional al qaeda media organizations and discussions groups of jihadists to twitter. What i received was a communication from an aqap official saying we directed this and we take responsibility for it. Moments after we did that aqap began to tweet out paragraph by paragraph the statement they had given me earlier in the day in arabic. Even if they do say we did this questions are still going to be out there. And the isis connection Amedi Coulibaly<\/a> had this video. It is very hazy in zissue. Do you think thats a tangential discussion . Isis and aqap have long been a feud over supremacy of the Islamic Jihadist Movement<\/a> globally. You can raise funds off of it because if youre the big dog on the block, people will back you. But the other is to sort of say, we are the Supreme Group<\/a> in the world and everyone should flock to us if you want to join an International Uprising<\/a> or cause. Its pretty unthinkable that these two groups at any high level would decide to coordinate. You were talking earlier in the program about the sort of domestic politics that may have influenced these guys to do this action. My thesis right now is that one or both of the brothers the kouachi brothers had some training or support inside of yemen from aqap. They may have helped them devise the plot ultimately. This was years ago that these guys were there and that combined with their own experience of being muslims in france the islamaphobia in that society. What about Anwar Al Awlaki<\/a> . Has he more power in death than in life . I would say even though he is dead, he still is probably the most significant English Speaking<\/a> radical figure in the global sort of jihadist world. Part of the reason he was so popular is not because he was saying things that arent said every day. But its because he also spoke a language of the streets. He made a lot of analogies to pop culture. He was radicalized by u. S. Wars. The pentagon met with al awlaki right after 9 11 he was invited to speak at the pentagon at a time when he was being investigated over the fact that some of 9 11 hijackers visited his mosque. Amedi coulibaly may have been met with nicholas sar ko si. To talk about yemen, we talk about drone strikes in yemen. We dont have a firm number of confirmed strikes or casualties. Have we done by in accounts this is a failed state. I wonder if you think we are doing anything right over there, because some officials will argue that al awlaki is more potent to this day. Is any path were pursuing at this point the right one . I think were doing almost everything we could do wrong in yemen. The day that the paris shootings happened, aqap conducted an attack on a Police Academy<\/a> and killed 30 people at that Police Academy<\/a>. It barely registered a blip on the radar. What were doing through our drone strikes is giving aqap legitimatecy legitimacy. Were not above killing someones 16yearold son, al awlakis son. Our policy has been counterproductive, but were on the side of a lot of human rights abusing forces throughout the muslim world. You had all of these World Leaders<\/a> who are ennymysemyies of a free press leading this march. There were a lot of great cartoons pointing out the hypocrisy. Hey, were here to defend a free press. In terms of syria, which seems to be yemen is very much a locus of all this as is syria. In yemen we have the shite militia militia. Removing Saddam Hussein<\/a> from power and another nationalist were keeping in check these forces who are now vying for control. The u. S. Has long been on the wrong side of history in that region as far as many ordinary people are concerned and the societies have been decimated economically. A lot of these places people went into a free fall. Who catches people in a free fall . Why do people shoot up schools here . Something happens in their life and they are captured by an idea. That combined with some Mental Illness<\/a> can produce the shootings that we see. Same is true with these young people in muslim societies. They are captured by the idea if they do these acts they are committing an act that is going to make them historically famous. The fact that people are getting radicalized to that extent in the western world is perhaps the most disturbing part of all this. You guys are breaking some big stories over there. Thank you for your time. Coming up from big oil to deportations it is open season for republicans on capitol hill. Thats just ahead. With the incredible fuel efficiency of 38 milespergallon highway you can feel like royalty in the nissan altima. Now, get great offers on the 38 mpg highway nissan altima. Nissan innovation that excites. We have some breaking news to report out of south dakota where a federal judge declared the states ban on samesex marriage unconstitutional. The effect of the decision is on hold in order to give the state a chance to appeal the ruling. 36 states and the District Of Columbia<\/a> currently allow same sex couple ls to marry. 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Joining me now is democratic representative from illinoiss Fourth District<\/a> congressman louis gutierriez. What are House Republicans<\/a> doing here . First, lets be happy it will they ever become law. It wont get to the senate. They wont even bring it to a vote. The president are going to veto it. Lets put that aside. But, look its clear, alex. What immigration, any kind of positive action on immigration, does not unite the republican party. So what have they done . What unites us . Being against obama. So theyre going to reach back as you suggest, back to his first term. This is a party that on a national scene, right, for everyone to see is going to commit political suicide. But thats exactly the point, congressman, which i dont understand. Presumably all of this is to placate their base. None of it is going to go through. None of it have been enforced. At the same time republicans will alienate themselves. What is the upside as you see it, for them . Here it is. They are going to the extreme elements of their party to placate them. Extreme elements of their party, if they were on this program, they would say were delirious. Were so happy. This is the best we have ever done in terms of the party actually responding to what we demand because it is not enough to roll back the president s executive order. We want to make sure members of the military who have fought or are fighting have the same priority for deportation as a criminal who is selling drugs on our street. They dont see any difference. They just dont see any difference. In word, i can see how they would be delirious. None of this would actually congress can basically do nothing to unwind any of these executive actions, upcoming or past. From these conservative elements in the house, do they not realize this is unenforceable . They dont believe any kind of immigration. Lets remember. To show you how sad this is one year ago, if you were interviewing you, we would be talking about headlines in the press as they go off, right, and talk about positive things theyre going to do around immigration. Remember all their new priorities for immigration and how they were going to have all these new priorities for immigration and they were going to go into their retreat . It was in all the headlines one year ago. One year late the extremist segment, i dont like any immigrants, i dont want any immigration policy, thats the really sad case. Deport them all. When they asked me, you can, in one word, deportation. That is the key, the fantasy, that somehow you can resolve this kriscrippling immigration system by deporting everybody. Look, it may win them the next election in their corner of the world, but this will be re repugnant to the people. With me now is jeremy peters. Jeremy after all this hue and cry, is the theme thats going to pass come february 2017 just a clean funding bill . Yes. I dont think the house is going to attach and get through the senate at all, especially the ones that would do things like make it possible for the government to start deporting people who came to the country illegally as children. Jeremy, how do you read boehners shepherding of this . He doesnt care about the right flank of his party. This proposal would seem to show that he very much does care about the right flank of his party, even though the right flank is not going to get exactly what they want. I think hes doing exactly what he has to do. These conservatives have been clamoring for a vote since december. Remember they didnt get what they wanted. One that ended up passing, i think, they felt was toothless. Its going to be a largely empty symbolic vote. Were saying that now, right . Weeks ahead, this going to be an empty symbolic vote. Does the conservative caucus just not care . Why are they writing letters to santa claus . They want to be able to go back to their constituents and say, look i voted on it. There are also people who believe they can use this to keep pushing other republicans and pushing president obama and democrats to do something. Now, of course, thats not going to happen. This is not going to pass the senate. The president would veto it anyway. Ted cruz he would argue put it up to as many votes as you can in the senate. Make democrats take a vote on this and put them on the record. While democrats may see that as a waste of time they do want to get democrats on record here. Let me ask you speaking about democrats, the Keystone Pipeline<\/a> vote what is the latest on that in terms of democrats crossing the aisle to support the republican push for the Keystone Pipeline<\/a> . There will be about ten or so democrats who cross the aisle and vote on this. I think the latest i heard is theyre expecting about 63 yes votes tonight. That is enough to break a filibuster, but its not enough to sustain a president ial veto. Thank you for joining the show jeremy. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. Coming up remember those nigerian schoolgirls . Remember them. They are still missing, and the group that abducted them and may have sold them into sexual slave slavery slavery, that group has gotten even worse. Ah, push it. Push it. P. Push it real good ow oooh baby baby. Baby baby. If youre saltnpepa, you tell people to push it. Push it real good. Its what you do. Ah. Push it. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance<\/a> you switch to geico. Its what you do. Ah. Push it. Im pushing. Im pushing it real good why do i cook . Because i make the best chicken noodle soup. Because i make the best chicken noodle soup. Because i make the best chicken noodle soup. 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Lets get to work. If were going to be connected, then we need to be protected. The centcom twitter page has been hack. It is responsible for the Operational Command<\/a> directing the strategy of operations of some significant campaigns around the world. Any classified information they have would be absolutely critical and devastating in released. Were still examining and investigating the extent of this incident. The official Centcom Youtube<\/a> site began playing isis videos. Watch your back, isis. We wont stop. We know everything about you, your wives, and your children. We shouldnt have to forfeit our basic privacy when we go online to do our business. Good to have you with us tonight, folks. Thanks for watching. I find it very disturbing. 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