Secret service had previously said gonzalez was stopped in the main entry. Now it appears he wasnt stopped until he got deep inside. According to the post, heres whats happened. This is the layout of the state floor of the white house. Gonzalez made it through the entrance hall, then into the 80footlong east room, the same room where president obama announced the killing of osama bin laden, before he reached the doorway to the green room, where according to the post, he finally was tackled by a Counter Assault agent. Take a look at the ground he covered. The intruder didnt simply make it inside before he got tackled and the green room where he was stopped, overlooks the south lawn, where president obama and his family had been walking just minutes earlier, as they departed the white house. How in the world did this happen . How did someone carrying a knife get deep inside whats supposed to be the safest home in america . Is the secret service doing everything it can to keep the president and his family safe . Joining me now from the white house is nbc senior white house correspondent, chris jansing. Chris, what is your reaction to the white house and what is the reaction in the white house to this report . It is as you said, stunning. The white house wont comment on these latest reports. Neither will the secret service, but this really is, rev, a very different situation than we were led to believe. I was here that night. We just talked to congressman elijah cummings, the Ranking Member on the committee that will talk to the secret Service Director tomorrow. He said this should be a come to jesus moment. He said the secret service has not lived up to its reputation and heres why. After scaling the fence into what as you said is widely expected to be the most secure house in the country. He ran 70 yards across the lawn to the front door. Now we know he got well into the building, confronting at least two agents along the way. How could this happen . Well, we now believe the reason dogs didnt stop gonzalez when he sprinted across the lawn, was because there were a lot of officers there and there was concern the dogs might attack them instead. Originally, youll remember the secret service said it was because he appeared unarmed. And now we know he was carrying that serrated blade knife. What about the front door . The Washington Post reports theres an alarm box near the front entrance thats supposed to alert guards to intrusion, but apparently it had been going off a lot. So it was on mute because it was bothering staffers. All of this happened after the president and his daughters went for a weekend at camp david. So these new revelations will f following the weekend report. It took agents four days to realize it even happened and it was a housekeeper who found the evidence. Members of the House Oversight committee are expected to question Julia Pearson tomorrow. She wants the hearing to be closed. The president was briefed by her this past thursday. Weve seen a few changes, a double row of what looked like bicycle racks surrounding the existing fence. We saw agents on the lawn Testing Communications equipment. But no one at least that we know of has been relieved of duty. The briefing today, i asked the White House Press secretary should the American People have confidence that the president and his family are safe, and he says the president does, rev. Let me go back to the dogs. Theyre saying that the dogs they feared were going to attack agents. And thats why the dogs were not where they could have stopped, apprehended or at least brought down this intruder . Ive seen this before. When a previous intruder came over the fence, rev, and it was happening just right behind me, and there were agents actually with guns drawn, but when the man was brought down, the dog was within, i would say, inches of his face. They are trained to run, to knock down a full grown man with a single leap. And then, if they need to, they will bite, they will hold that will person down. So, originally the question was, why werent they released . And they said, he appeared unarmed. Same reason that apparently snipers chose not to take a shot. But now theyre telling a different story altogether. Elijah cummings said these are the kinds of questions they want to get to the bottom of. One more point that he said, one of the things that disturbs him so much about this, rev, is that part of what keeps the president safe is the reputation of the secret service, people have come to believe if you try something, theyll stop you. And hes concerned about the message that this sends. And theyre saying he appeared to be unarmed. Chris jansing at the white house, i thank you for your time this evening. Welcome. Let me bring in jack rice, a former cia agent who spent time as as a special agent in the office of security and jim cavanaugh, msnbc analyst and retired atf analyst. Thank you both for being here. Thanks, reverend. Jack, this man with a knife was deep inside the white house. Whats your reaction . Well, this is horrifying. If you contemplate what the potential could have been here. Yes, everything turned out already in a sense. I guess the positive is that you realize the procedures, the protocols that were in place, that should have been in place, were simply dismissed, ignored, or whatever reason, not there. But chriss point is a really good one. One of the biggest concerns that we need to have now besides all that is this lack of credibility. The perception that the secret service is failing to do their job. Because potentially what that does is encourage others to simply test just how good, or how bad, the secret service actually is. Now, jim, the post reports that an alarm box was turned off. Quote, an alarm box near the front entrance of the white house designed to alert guards to an intruder had been muted at what officers believed was the request of the ushers office. Said a secret Service Official who spoke on the condition on anonymity. How could Something Like this happen . Does this appear to be a breach of protocol . I think so, reverend al. Ive been on a lot of secret service details. The one thing you hear a lot of carping about people, its intrusive, it bothers them. Theres all kinds of reasons. If this is true, and the ushers office said that, i think thats a failure as well to interfere at all with the security. But the atmosphere of the secret service, down to any agent and Uniformed Division officer has to be that youre not going to compromise the security no matter who requests it, and the chain of command is going to back you up. So they have to change the atmosphere. They have to listen to their people. They had the female agent on the balcony in 2011, she said there were shots fired and she was fearful to bring it up again. So the climate is not right. The atmosphere has to change. And director pearson has to be the one to change it, and she has to take responsibility tomorrow in front of the congress for this lapse. This is outrageous. I agree with jack, its outrageous that a person could penetrate to the green room. Outrageous is almost an understatement. Let me go back to you, jack. The post also reports that at least one secret Service Agent appeared to have been caught off guard. Quote, the female officer posted inside the front door appeared to be delayed in learning that the intruder, omar gonzalez, was about to burst through. Officers are trained that upon learning of an intruder on the ground, often through the alarm boxes posted around the property. They Must Immediately lock the front door. Does this suggest a widespread breakdown . Shouldnt that agent have been alerted . Without question. Thats again, one of the problems here. There are procedures that should be in place. By the way, how is it the ushers office gets to determine security . Good question. At the end of the day, you need to have a director who clarifies what happens and the campaign chain of command up to the potus himself, has to say, were going to back you up. Its not the ushers office. Its the secret service. They make the call to apply all of the things they have to ap y apply. They didnt in this case, and thats clear. The president said after this story surfaced, a few days after the breakin, listen to what the president said. Im grateful for the sacrifices they make on my behalf, and my familys behalf. What needs to change in the secret service . What needs to be done, jim . The atmosphere. The atmosphere needs to change from the top down. You need to listen to all the people. The people that know the most about the security of the president are the 6,000 men and women of the secret service. They have to be listened to and trusted. They have to know that their commander trusts them. Thats how you change the atmosphere. What were facing is the worldwide terrorism issue. All the vulnerabilities are exposed. When the terrorists want to launch an attack, its not one guy with mental issues. Its three or four attackers with submachineguns like killed sadat, or hand grenade and submachine attack like killed bhutto. These are the types of attacks that are used by terror cells, watching this minute by minute. This story is in the manila times today. So they have to tighten it up. The president says he has confidence in them, but how angry do you think he must really be . His family is there. This guy got right to the entrance, the bottom of the steps where you go up to the living quarters of the residence at the white house. Right, reverend l. Al. Hes a leader, hes backing his people. He knows what the secret service has been through. Theyve had their people shot protecting president reagan. Theyve been hurt. Killed in front of the blair house with harry truman, the white house uniform division. So theyre very brave. Hes backing them up. He needs to do that. But the mistakes need to stop. The director needs to take a hit on the hill tomorrow, take responsibility, it was on her watch with the fence jumper, and lets institute plans to get this fixed. This is not just a little mistakes, for example, jack, the Washington Post is also reporting on a 2011 incident that jan referred to, which it says the secret service fumbled. Seven gun shots struck the white house. Seven gun shots. But it took four days for the secret service to realize what had happened. The post says the secret Service Response infuriated the president and the first lady. Well, rev, again, thats one of our problems. What were not seeing is transparency here, at least within the organization itself. Theyre not responding. Theyre not being responsive in the way that they need to be. If they see a failure, they need to address it. But four days but four days, jack, and you dont know seven shots hit the white house . It takes someone in the white house staff to notice some glass before you realize that shots actually went into the white house . Well, apparently its the ushers office and the cleaning crew who is securing the white house now. What does that say . Thats my question, to not only you, but i hope its raised in a vos ifrous manner tomorrow at the hearing. Me too, rev. I agree with that. Words cant express how unbelievably outrageous this is. It is. When the shots hit in 2011, rev, they should have sent a dozen special agents who were off duty down in to sort it out. Come in from the suburbs and come in from home, its an urgent thing. Youve got to respond now. Thats why youre the secret service. Not only the people on duty, but you bring in more people, commanders, you got to be there, you got to be on the scene, you got to sort it through, search, listen to your people, trust them. They need to change the way theyre thinking. Theyre changed over the years. Been around them. Have a lot of friends, have a Great Respect for the agency, but they stumbled, failed, now they got to pick it up and the director has a chance to do that. Let me go back to cummings point. We talk about this sense of alert around the world with terrorism. What does this do to the reputation of the secret service, that might encourage all kinds of reaction, if people feel youve got not one, but two incidents that both got through to the white house . Seven bullets, seven shots, and then a man with a knife actually getting on the grounds, running through the main floor. What does this say to the world . Thats the scary part. Its not just about competency. Its about the perception of incompetency in this case. If you cant establish that if you step on white house grounds and youre not supposed to be there, youre going down in some fashion or another. If you can get into the white house, get across the main floor, get into the building, get very close to the family. Whats not to encourage somebody else to try again. Except for somebody who actually has competency. Somebody who can run a real operation. And thats what were afraid of. Frankly, thats what the secret service is afraid. Thats what potus is afraid of. 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I think our head of the intense community, jim clapper, has acknowledged that i think they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. He didnt say that just say that we underestimated isil. He said we overestimated the ability and the will of our allies, the iraqi army, to fight. Thats true. Thats absolutely true. The u. S. Is now depending on those iraqi troops to stand and fight. This time backed by american air power. But the president is standing by his promise, that he wont let us be dragged into another ground war in the middle east. Joining me now is brian cat you knowis, senior fellow at the center for american progress. Thanks for being here, brian. Great to be with you. Some are criticizing president obamas comments, but frankly did anyone expect isis fighters to do so much so quickly . Or the iraqi army to have so many problems . Well, i think the key is the iraqi army shocked everyone when they literally stripped off their uniforms and handed over their weapons in mosul and in other places. Thats something nobody anticipated. The key point here, our human intelligence, our ability to understand what iraqis or others can do is quite different than what we can collect from sat slights and phone calls. Having that human intelligence, sometimes people do the craziest things and the iraqis just did not fight for their country. Thats what shocked everyone. Senator john mccain will use just about any excuse to go to war, but he really likes pushing war. But today he went after president obama for not launching attacks on syrian president assad. Listen to this. Are we going to ask young men to train and equip, and we send them back to be slaughtered by Bashar Assads air power . Whats the solution . We need a nofly zone. What if he breaches it . We take out his air force. The president can act, under the war powers act against assad . Absolutely, he can act against assad. Why shouldnt he . Why shouldnt we attack assad . I mean, isnt he being extremely casual about something that could lead to some very dangerous results . I think he is, but we need to understand that even these syrian rebels, the forces that oppose isis and assad, theyre complaining as well. So its not only senator mccain. He has some points here in saying that, look, at a certain point in syria, assad himself is part of the problem. He allowed the rise of isis. Im not saying strike them as senator mccain is, but we should think about how this policy fits together. We have necessary action against isis, we dont have a clear picture of how this all ends. A new cnn poll finds the American People, 73 support air strikes, while 60 oppose u. S. Ground troops. So the American People