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MSNBCW Ronan Farrow Daily July 29, 2014

Intensify. Heres everything you need to right now. European leaders adopt tough, new sanctions on russia. This response to the downing of malaysia air flight 17. And as if u. S. Russian relations werent tense enough, the white house accuses russia of violating a Historic Arms control treaty that helped end the cold war. The New York Times which broke the story says the u. S. Will cite russia violating that treaty as far back as 2008. Heres press secretary josh earnest just minutes ago. There have been reports that the president informed president putin via letter of our determination and as an indication that this is a matter that merits the serious attention of the lead earls of both the United States and russia. Signed by Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev in 87. The treaty bans tests of groundlaunched Cruise Missiles. Perhaps no surprise, putin already called gorbachevs decision to sign the treaty, quote, debatable. Capitol hill, the house could vote thursday on a bill to address the crisis at the border. It would allocate 359 million to respond to the surge of minors. The president had asked for more. A lot more. Nearly 4 billion. Heres House Speaker john boehner this morning. I think theres sufficient support in the house to move this bill. We got a little more work to do, though. Even if the bill passes the house, it is unlikely to pass the democratled senate. In New Hampshire today, the suspect in the kidnapping of a teenager appearing in court this very hour. Kibby arrested yesterday accused in the kidnapping of abigail hernandez. She vanished from the school and resurfaced last week. Authorities havent said how she was found and quoted sources saying she was locked in a container on the trailer park lot for nine long months. A stranded whale watching boat is finally back in boston after a long, cold night out in the water. To see the relieved faces there, i think we have got footage of them. Yes. 163 passengers. And crew. Stuck on the boat from yesterday afternoon. Until this morning. Its propeller tangled in a lobber trap. Stranding the boat 13 miles from score. The coast guard brought food, water and blankets and passengers will get a refund. 500 in cash and 100 gift card for another trip. Because, why not . And overseas, a glimmer of hope in the middle east . Today palestinian officials proposed a multistaged ceasefire. This after israel launched more than 76 strikes overnight hitting the home of a senior hamas leader, the hamas tv station and according to some accusations destroying gazas only power plant. That caused a blackout in much of gaza city. Before that strike, gaza residents say theyre getting three hours of electricity a day. 1,156 palestinians have been killed so far. 53 Israeli Soldiers and 3 civilians in israel are also dead. Lets turn to Martin Fletcher for the latest in tel aviv live with us. Martin, netanyahu accused hamas of violating the five last ceasefires. What could be different about this one . Reporter well, if they didnt violate it, and if israel didnt continue rocketing, you know, to be honest with you, thats so Much Movement now towards ceasefire and so much talk of an imminent ceasefire, i have to say, i dont really know whats going on right now. The israeli the palestinians suggested proposed a ceasefire. They said all the palestinian parties had agreed to it. Then hamas came out and said we dont agree to it. Certain point, israels saying we agree to a ceasefire under certain conditions and then there was later reports of different sources that the israelis do not agree and particular moment back and forwards and seems to me if theres a ceasefire will have dragged to it kicking and screaming, each side seems not yet ready for a ceasefire and responding to outside pressure to move towards each other and laying conditions for it. Israel says it agrees to a conditional ceasefire as long as the palestinianless stop firing rockets and the palestinians say theyll agree if israel stops firing rockets from the air. So neither side has stopped firing. No ceasefire, ronan. Martin, there were reports this morning that two u. N. Staff members were killed in one of israels strikes in gaza. Do you have any updates on that . Reporter im afraid not much. We have been in touch with the united nations. They confirmed the two workers were killed, they were brothers. Not clear yet how they were killed, an israeli rocket, driving in a car. The u. N. Just hasnt said yet how they were killed but it does bring the number of u. N. Workers in gaza killed now to six in the last three weeks, ronan. Thank you for that update, Martin Fletcher. Appreciate it. This is a job that nobody wants. Trying to find peace in this chaos. John kerry right now illustrates the pitfalls. Diplomat in chief defending himself against accusations of causing a growing rift with israel. Take a listen to him this morning. Look. I have taken hits before in politics. Im not worried about that. This is not about me. This is about israel and israels right to defend itself and our strong support for israels right to defend itself. Hes responding to barrage of criticism today. Washington post, kerrys big blunder. Hes expended much of the energy in the region and made 12 trips over a last year. Only to come up empty handed. This is one of the handful of this administrations Foreign Policy priorities that seem to be in freefall right now. Joining me is richard haas. A pleasure to have you back, sir. First of all on the israel question, does kerry have any influence with any of the players . Well, the United States and israel are to use a cliche on anything but the same page. Secretary kerry wants a ceasefire. Israel doesnt want a ceasefire unless it first takes care of the tunnels issue. Gaza and the people in hamas dont seem to want a ceasefire unless israel first agrees to the loosening of economic constraints so theres a wide gap between the substance of the various sides plus the United States and israel on opposite sides of how to go about it. The fact that secretary kerry reached out to the quote unquote friends of hamas, the government of qatar, turkey, rather than through the more traditional route of egypt and the palestinian authority. Again, led many israelis to think were going at this in very different ways. This is not a new problem or problem specific to john kerry. What needs to change for an american secretary of state to have success on this issue . Ronan, it is good youre young because it may be a long time before we see success on this issue. Not every issue out there is ripe for resolution and, quite honestly, if the definition of success is a peace between israelis and palestinians, the prereck sit simply arent in place. Theyre not in place for something much less than that, which is a ceasefire. So, you know, in order to make peace you need party that is are both willing and able to compromise. And you similarly dont have that in the divided palestinian leadership. One side may be willing but not able. Hamas is clearly not willing. Israelis themselves are divided. You simply do not have the stuff of peacemaking. I dont care john kerry making 25 trips to the middle east. Hes not likely to have a lot to show for it. Not a lot of hope. You can see why kerry went through the less traditional actors, qatar, people to get hamas leadership. I want to while we are you here, ask about the priorities going so awry right now. Devastating news out of libya, dramatic scenes and intensified fighting of militias forced the evacuation of u. S. Embassy workers. Is libya a failed state at this point . Just about. It raises fundamental questions of american Foreign Policy. If you pursue regime change and i dont believe is warranted in libya but if you are going to do it, you cant then leave the day after you oust the king. You have also got to get there on the ground in order to help bring about a new stable Political Security economic order. So for the United States to have essentially participated in the ousting of Moammar Gadhafi but to have done precious little in the aftermath, thats a recipe for the sort of failed state we are seeing emerge in libya. Seems like anywhere but on the leaderships radar since that ousting. Another big priority we seem to have left by the wayside, even eager to get out of afghanistan and seen things worse. A lot of gains made by the al qaeda. Taliban with a big report on this. 14 people were killed friday when the taliban shot up two mini buses. Are we seeing afghanistan slip into the condition it was in before we came there . I sure hope not but you have got a lame duck government in afghanistan. The two would be successors to say the least at odds over whos legitimate. Meanwhile, the taliban continues to act out of parts of pakistan and the United States has said its going to leave no matter what in two and a half years rather than say well stay depending upon conditions. So, for sure, youre right to worry right now pakistan is afghanistan, rather, is on a slippery slope. It is not too late to arrest that drift. But the events of the last few weeks are a real stark reminder that we havent yet put into place the foundations of a stable country or even a normal country. Do you think the president should reconsider plans for withdrawal . Absolutely. What i think he should do is once theres a new leadership in afghanistan, he should figure out a way that where the United States would be prepared to stay if afghanistan itself were willing to meet u. S. Conditions, but yes. I think we ought to be willing to stay. Like we have in other countries around the world for years, decades. The criteria ought not to be the calendar. It ought to be the conditions and whether it serves u. S. Interests. A tough suggestion. Appreciate it, richard haass. Thank you for coming. Up next, wayward Cruise Missiles. Mother russia, this is not the way to make friends and influence people. Well get firsthand evidence of just that from the Ranking Member of the House Foreign Relations Committee with us up next. 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Democratic new York Congress eliot rangel joins me now. Thank you so much for being here. How solid is the evidence behind the accusation . Seems to be solid and unfortunately in line with mr. Putins aggressiveness and just trying to bully everyone that he comes in touch with. This is a very serious provocation, no doubt. The eu the toughening sanctions on russia. Whats next if the eu sanctions soent work . Will the u. S. Step in and take action on top of existing sanctions . Let me first of all reiterate that we are talking about sanctions. No ones talking about war. No ones talking about boots on the ground. We are talking about sanctions. The u. S. Is obviously currently negotiating with iran and the reason why irans at the negotiating table is we imposed sanctions on them which has hurt their economy tremendously. The russian economy is equally fragile. And could be hurt with sanctions in the Banking Sector and military sector and i think putin has to understand that if he does things like this, ukraine, now the flaunting of getting rid of or not caring about a treaty, that theyll be a price to pay. I think the United States is leading and europe is following the way and important to have united front. And what do you think should come next . Should there be stronger sectorwide sanctions . I think we have to watch mr. Putins behavior. Certainly, what hes doing in ukraine, hes overrun crimea. Hes annexed it to russia. Now its very clear that the separatists in Eastern Ukraine are being trained by russians, are being given all the military equipment by russians. The missile that took down that plane and destroyed so many innocent lives was russian and was given to the separatists and the training so i just think that we cannot sit idly by and i think putin has to understand that sanctions will come. Therell be strong, crushing and if anything backs him down, those will. Congressman, some of the colleagues on the hill, chuck schumer, peter king, have been aiming for a boycott or a call at least to move the 2018 world cup away from russia. Do you back that proposal . Well, i think its better to do sanctions that hit him in his economy. You know, we sort of play tit for tat in the 1980s and boycotted olympics in moscow and i think 1980 and 1984 having the los angeles olympics they boycotted our olympics. Im not sure thats the way to go. Im not opposed to it if that indeed helps change the equation but i think sanctions in the banking economy, military industry, and other industries are the way to go first. Right. There are more powerful tools perhaps. Yes. I did want to ask you about the proisrael rally attended yesterday in front of the United States. Ted cruz, christin gillibrand, this is how they describe it. Denouncing the use of civilians as human shields by hamas and other terrorist organizations in violation of International Humanitarian law. Whats the significance of the resolutions . Do they actually accomplish anything . Well, i think its important, you know, to show that theres a strong support for israel in the United States congress. Its bipartisan support. Its strong and should be at a time quh israel in my opinion cannot get a fair shake from the united nations, from the rest of the world. Its important for them to know that the United States stands by them, will continue to support them and help them with iron dome. And other things that they need and i think thats why the rallies are so important. I think the moral equivalency between the terrorist group hamas and israel that so many countries seem to have is just appalling and shocking, and israel needs to know the United States stands with them in their time of need. Congressman, appreciate it. Thank you. 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