And this, according to our friend the historian john meachem was the day the amg of Ronald Reagan officially ended. It was the day Supreme Court Justice Anthony kennedy announced his retirement. And before we go on here, just a few things about Anthony Kennedy. Hes been on the court for 30 years. He was reagans third choice after the first two failed. In the end, reagan went with a northern caliifornian, a conservative, to be sure, but with a libertarian streak. Classically trained at stanford, London School of economics and harvard law, kennedy employed an effortless intellect and a respect for liberty. He was never shocking. He was sometimes surprising, but he was mostly a highly reliable conservative. It should not be forgotten that during the Supreme Court term that just ended today, 14 cases were decided by a 54 vote. Kennedy voted with the conservatives every time. And now comes the fight over what will be Donald Trumps second justice on the court. The republicans in the name of Mitch Mcconnell jammed up and held up obamas court choice to wait eight months for the president ial election. Now the democrats, who are the minority in the senate, want to wait the four months until the Voters Decide the makeup of the new u. S. Senate. Well, tonight, President Trump spoke to supporters at a campaignstyle rally in fargo, north dakota, where he praised Justice Kennedy and spoke about the importance of this replacement. Justice Anthony Kennedy, a very special guy, also Just Announced a little while ago his retirement from the United States Supreme Court. And im very honored that he chose to do it during my term in office, because he felt confident in me to make the right choice and carry on his great legacy. Thats why he did it. And remember this, so we have a pick to come up. We have to pick a great one. We have to pick one thats going to be there for 40 years, 45 years. We need intellect. We need so many things to go you know, theres so many elements go into the making of a great justice of the Supreme Court. Youve got to hit every one of them. Following Justice Kennedys announcement today, President Trump spoke at the white house and said the process to find his replacement would begin immediately. He says his replacement will come from a list the white house has compiled of mostly conservative judges. Earlier today, Yale Law School professor akila mahr spoke to ali velshi about that list and a supposed swing vote position on the Supreme Court without Justice Kennedy. Im a democrat, but the list is a distinguished list and even if the person picked is to the right of Justice Kennedy on some issues, some of them are actually his former law clerks, that would only mean, frankly, from just a Political Science perspective that the middle of the court shifts to john roberts. It doesnt shift all the way to the furthest right person on the court. Thats the new swing justice. There will always be a swing justice, its just where that swing happens. And just to remind everyone, john roberts is a very good man. He h went on to point out chief Justice John Roberts sided with the lib rat Court Justices to preserve obamacare. Now all eyes turn to the u. S. Senate and the expected political confrontation over whomever the president chooses. Phil rucker reports tonight that both democrats and republicans will use the Supreme Court va candy as a rallying cry. Quote, the already ferocious nomination battle is likely to clarify the choices for voters in senate races across the country, strategists said. And impact other contests down the ballot. And even if republicans install a replacement for kennedy before the november election, the debate is still likely to thrust to the forefront, issues that have likely been overlooked on the campaign trail until now. Senate democrats are gearing up for a battle, but earlier today, the Senate Majority leader gave this Crystal Clear message on the senate floor. We will vote to confirm Justice Kennedys successor this fall. There you have it. Lets bring our leadoff panel for the aforementioned phil rucker, the White House Bureau chief for the washington post, barbara mcquaid, former u. S. Attorney for the Eastern District the state of michigan. And were thrilled to have Tom Goldstein with us, who has argued 41 cases before the Supreme Court. He is also publisher of scotus blog, which covers the court. Additionally, hes a lecturer for Harvard Law School in his spare time. How big was this to witness in real time . How big will this be . Give us 50 years as we look back at the scope of american jurisprudence. Well, its really impossible to overstate. What youre looking at here is the justice who really wasnt so much a swing justice, but he was a fifth vote for the left on some critical things, like abortion, affirmative action, gay rights. And that vote now will go a step to the right. And so the big barrier to making a big leap to the right in american consequence constitutional law and other issues is now going to be gone. And youre going to get somebody whos much more like a neil gorsuch who we got this term. So its a pivot point, and its one that we wont get to come back through again for at least another quarter century, given how long people stay on the court. Phil rucker, the president s response was closely watched tonight. Tell us about the donald trump you saw on display and that part we just aired about how kennedy did this now because of his confidence in donald trump to do the right thing. Well, brian, there was a lot of chest thumping from President Trump. Thats to be expected. This has been an extraordinarily positive couple of days for him. The travel ban was upheld yesterday, and then today he has this tremendous gift in the vacancy on the court that hes going to be able to fill. And he described it as an opportunity for him. But he also tried to use it as a rallying cry for Republican Voters in the midterm elections. He said that the vacancy of kennedy on the court makes the Supreme Court and the battle for control of the senate the most important issue of our time. He went on a tear about Heidi Heitkamp who at one point was his favorite democrat in the senate. He brought her on the road last time he was in north dakota. But today he went after her on issue after issue after issue and warned his base voters that if yes let democrats take control of the senate, and if they have a say in who replaces Justice Kennedy on the court, things could be very bad for them. Barbara, im curious to hear your take on whats at stake with this nomination the president gets to make. Well, i think one of the really key issues thats likely to confront the court in the coming years is the abortion question, roe versus wade. Is there a chance it could be overturned . I dont know. As tom said, we have Justice Roberts now at the center of the storm here. And he has always said that stare decisis, the idea that you respect the precedence that came before is important to him. And so you would think that hes unlikely to want to reverse roe versus wade, but as President Trump said in that clip you played, this justice he wants to name is likely to serve for 40 to 45 years. So even if it doesnt happen with the next makeup of the court, how about the one after that . I think that is something that is likely at stake. Tom, this seat was held by two southerners, hugo lafayette black and of course lewis powell of richmond virginia. It was call for years the powell seat on the court. As we look back, give us a little perspective. Will we refer to this as the Anthony Kennedy seat . We will probably refer to it as the apt ny kennedy seat and as a practical matter, Anthony Kennedy court. Justice powell would be the swing vote. He would be at the center of the course in dozens and dozens of cases. That wasnt as true for Justice Kennedy. Say you have 14 cases decided on the ideological 54 axis. And it always came down to him. Now this term, he was with the conservatives 14 times, but in other terms it might be more balanced. It might be 104, 86. But he was the one who was available. The big difference is that next term, when you get another big case like that, there may be no one available. It may be preordained which is, you know, what conservatives are hoping for. Tom, ive got ood one for you. There is a wild card at work here. Ive wracked my brain. I dont know that this has ever been the case. Two words Robert Mueller. There is a concurrent criminal investigation into this administration, and in a way, theyre both following the same calendar. The runup to a midterm election. Tell us how to think about the fact that this president making this nomination, by the way, is under investigation. Well, you can think about it politically and legally. Politically, you could say the administration is ecstatic to have something that will rally people behind the president who are his supporters and distract away from the mueller investigation. Theres going to be a huge amount of noise given the significance of the kennedy replacement. Legally whats going to happen is a conservative is naturally going to be more inclined to president ial eare powers, more suspicious of an independent investigating authority. And so this replacement is actually probably a good vote as far as those things go. But, you know, we just dont know what kinds of questions would get to the Supreme Court. For example, if the president defied a subpoena and wouldnt appear before a grand jury, its kind of a mystery where the Supreme Court would end up on that. Phil rucker, our colleague and mutual friend Chris Matthews was a particularly exercised when news of this came down. I want to play for you some of his remarks on the air. Well talk about them on the other side. It will not seem believable that they couldnt stop a senate from approving a president ial nominee for just 50 votes . It used to be 60. Now its just 50. There are ways to prevent a modest majority of 5049 getting its way. They will find that way or they will fail. If they fail, they will lose their leadership. The party will not accept failure on this front. They have not allowed someone to come into the Supreme Court for 30 years because they won by one vote. So phil rucker, what chris is talking about there is Senate Democratic leadership. Chuck schumer were talking about you and how the base of the party will not accept a loss on this. Yeah. The base may not accept a loss on this, but they may be forced to. The reality is and this is why this works so much in Mitch Mcconnells favor and President Trumps favor is that there are a number of red state democrats who are up for reelection in november who are going to feel intense pressure back home to support President Trumps nominee. One of them is from north dakota, Heidi Heitkamp. But youve also got the senators of montana, missouri, West Virginia, indiana. They are democrats, but they are going to feel the heat to get behind whoever trump nominates because theyre from states that trump won. And in the case of indiana, a state where theres a very Strong Social conservative leaning of the electorate. And so this is going to be difficult for schumer to keep all of his democrats in lock step in opposition to this nominee. On the righthand side of your screen, live pictures. The president has flown from fargo to milwaukee where air force one has just landed. Lets speak a Little English here. Is it fair to say the white house contracted out this list of potential justices to the federal society in washington . That that basically is the vetting arm, at least the first wave of vetting for these names . Yeah. It does seem that most of those names do have that in common, that they are judges who have been sort of groomed by the federalist society, which, of course, is the organization that is a very conservative group that has part of its mission to groom future judges and get them on the court. So i think thats right. I think they have, i think that President Trump reached out to that group. It is a group thats widely supported by conservatives and they work very hard to develop that network. Tom goldstein, i want you and i to sit down and go through every name on it in a lightning round. Is that a fair characterization of how that came together . Thats right and thats why it went well. They say this is a group of people who are committed to the issues. It will prove to them im their guy. Cant thank you enough after what i know has been a long day for all of you. As we head to our first break coming up, no Summer Vacation for so many in washington. This coming epic fight now over the direction of the Supreme Court means a big change in plans. And later, the one thing President Trump has been asking for since march may finally happen next month. The 11th hour just getting under way on this wednesday night. So, i have this recurring dream. Im 85 years old in a job where i have to wear a giant hot dog suit. What . Wheres that coming from . I dont know. I started my 401k early, i diversified. Im not a big spender. Sounds like youre doing a lot. But i still feel like im not gonna have enough for retirement. Like theres Something Else i should be doing. With the right conversation, you might find youre doing okay. So, no hot dog suit . Not unless you want to. No. Schedule a complimentary goal Planning Session today with td ameritrade®. Justice kennedys retirement makes the issue of Senate Control one of the vital issues of our time. You can say that again. Republican are moving to carry out a swift confirmation of whomever the president puts up to replace Anthony Kennedy, edespite their very slim majority. I think that we got plenty of precedent when to have appointments. Its important when not to. At this particular time its the senates obligation to move ahead and do what they should do on these matters. Now, democrats say any point should take place after the midterm elections, especially given that mcconnell said they couldnt possibly consider a new Supreme Court justice in the runup to the last election. Our republicans colleagues in the senate should follow the rule they set in 2016. Not to consider a Supreme Court justice in an election year. Were four months away from an election. 1 3 of the United States senate practically is up for election. The decision that we make is going to have generational impact. And the American People should be able to weigh in. As for what is it stake for the Democratic Party, heres some of what we heard earlier on this network. Its not acceptable to accept this as a fate accompli. For the next decades were going to be run by a 54 court. Just accept that. If you lay down and accept this as history that cant be stopped, youre going to a see a Political Party in serious implosion. You watch. With us for more tonight, jeremy peters, political reporter for the new york times, and sunyin kim, welcome to you both. Jeremy, in talking about this before the broadcast, court picks are a safe haven where republicans and donald trump come together. And republicans, even some never trumpers voted for trump because of the court. So this is an area where it seems to me its going to be hard to peel off republicans if you go with Chris Matthews argument. Thats exactly right. And everybody says every time theres a 5050 split issue in the senate, maybe you can peel away Lisa Murkowski on Susan Collins pits going to be extraordinarily difficult. You know what else is going to be extraordinarily difficult is democrats in red states who are going to be under pressure to support the president s nominee. Could you imagine somebody like Heidi Heitkamp or joe manchin who is waffling. Trump will land his plane in West Virginia in north dakota and harass them, saying they are blocking my nominee. They are nullifying your vote. This is what you voted for. And a lot of them realize this is exactly what they voted for. Youre right. President trump took the unprecedented step of giving them a list of names of people he would appoint to the court so they knew they could trust him. This is a solemn pledge between him and his base and he will not break it. I know youre not the parliamentarian of the senate, but you and jeremy are really smart, so you get this question. When the democrats talk about blocking tactics. When people like chris on the air today talked about parliamentary tactics, what can the Minority Party do . Minority not by much, what can the Minority Party do to slow this down . Throw something in the spokes . Frankly, theres not a lot that democrats can do at this point. Youre right that in the senate, democrats are in the minority. Democrats do have some rights, but in the case of judicial nominations, they dont have much recourse at this point. Remember, weve seen the filibuster for nominations erode bit by bit over the last several years. Democrats went nuclear on most nominations. And Senate Republicans last year finishing the job by getting rid of the filibuster for Supreme Court nominations. So that is why Mitch Mcconnell and Senate Republicans can easily pass whomever they want, whomever trump picks, as long as their ranks stick together. So in terms of strategy, theres not a lot for Chuck Schumer and his ranks to do here. With anything in the senate, you can slow down the process by some days, but at the end of the day, its inevitable, as long as all republicans Stay Together that whomever trump nominates in the coming weeks will get confirmed. Its a good point about the math, if the gop holds together. As i asked Tom Goldstein, isnt it true, we have this wild card. Oh, by the way, a massive investigation into the administration and the presidency of the man who is now going to put up his second name for the court. Its going to be an incredible calendar to watch. It really is. And then our summer just got a whole lot crazier. Thank for pointing that out. Crazy enough. No Vacation Time for you, brian. But the reason why i think this is going to be such a seminal moment in his presidency, the Supreme Court fights for republicans are such a part of their political culture. It is engrained in the right in a way that it is not in the left. Its a part of their dna. They understand the importance of a court seat much more than liberals do. Liberals have a much less cohesive ideology. The right, on the other hand, they still feel the sting of bourque, of suter, of they use suter as a verb. They do. And clarence thomas, by the way, too. These Supreme Court fights were such climactic moments in their political identity. And, of course, it all stops at abortion. The culture wars. They have been losing in the Supreme Court in the culture wars for a generation. This is now a time where they hope they can reverse that. And i really do think that this could be a galvanizing moment for them going into the midterm elections, when theyve just come off a victory with nominating, confirming a Supreme Court justice that theyre very happy with. And that could give them some momentum going into november. And sunmin, another aspect of this is coordination between the white house and republicans on the hill. It hasnt always been smooth as glass. We have seen the white house cut off any number of attempts by mcconnell, by speaker ryan at legislation. They havent always been coordinated. They havent always agreed. But this appears to be one area where the legislative Affairs Office and the white house and the folks who do legislation on the hill are likely to be coordinated. Exactly. I mean, this is the one issue. I mean, you have these policy fights over trade and clashes over style and the president s style of governing, but when it comes to judicial nominations, and not just Supreme Court nominee, but all these lower Court Nominees and Lower Court Judges that dont get a lot of attention, but is important to that conservative base, that is where Mitch Mcconnell and his ranks have been working hand and glove with the white house in coordinating nominees, messaging, how to move these candidates quickly through the chamber. Mitch mcconnell, its a badge of honor for him, not only getting gorsuch installed last year, but also the fact that one out of every eight Appeals Court judges right now have been nominated by donald trump. That is a staggering number. And that is an accomplishment that mcconnell has had to coordinate with the white house to get that through. And from right away with the vacancy today, youre going to see the administration and Senate Republicans work together. I mean, there are obviously renegade republicans at times we see folks like jeff flake and bob corker. But you saw in their statements tonight that they are, you know they see Justice Kennedys retirement as an opportunity to, again, reshape the court in a conservative direction for a generation to come. Two terrific bilines in political journalism. Thank you very much for coming on. And coming up for us, what if anything does last nights surprise victory by a 28yearold democratic socialist mean for democrats everywhere come november . When the 11th hour continues. One of my biggest critics, a slovenly man named joe crowley got his ass kicked. By a young woman who had a lot of energy. She had a lot of energy. I guess he didnt see it. They couldnt find him. A slovenly man. Well, today a political giant killer began making the media rounds. It is a whole new world for alexandria ocaciocortez appeared in this very studio on morning joe. Our campaign was focused on just a laserfocused message of economic, social and racial dignity for working class americans, especially those in queens and the bronx. Now, supporters of the more liberal faction of the Democratic Party see this young woman as the future. She ran as a democratic socialist, as an ultraliberal. Her positions included medicare for all, federal jobs guarantee and abolishing i. C. Emt, immigration and customs enforcement. Today, House Minority leader nancy pelosi, who will now lose her deputy in charge of messaging for the democrats, congressman crowley pushed back when she was asked about divisions within her party. The Democratic Party is increasingly younger, more female, more progressive. Should the Democratic House leadership look that way . Well, im female, im progressive. And the rest. So whats your problem . Two out of three aint bad. They made a choice in one district. Now please join us in welcoming cornell belcher, who drew the short straw tonight. He worked on both the president obama campaigns, and with a number of house and senate democrats, cornell, im going to make your job even tougher before i even get to the first question. We just heard from nancy pelosi. Her name came up tonight in fargo, north dakota. Listen to this. I want to keep nancy pelosi right where she is with Maxine Waters. I want to keep nancy pelosi. Please, i want to make a plea to my democrat friends, please, please, please dont remove nancy pelosi. She should be where she is. And please keep Maxine Waters on the air, as your face and your mouthpiece for the democrat party. So the always understanding cornell belcher. Heres the question. Nancy pelosi is the greatest single fundraising tool the Republican Party has. Last nights victorious 28yearold candidate here in new york is, and forgive ageism, generationalism, 50 years younger than nancy pelosi, 51 years younger than pelosis deputy in the house. So the question to you is when do you start thinking about new management in the house of representatives for the democrats . You know, brian, im going to try to walk and chew gum here at the same time. The Supreme Court fight, you know, i think theyre sort of related in this way. Its ultimately for me, im going to do a different calculation. Its ultimately not about the Republican Base or the Republican Base. The Republican Base is going to turn out. The Democratic Base is energized. Theyre going to turn out. The problem about the Supreme Court is what suburban women are going to do, right . These College Educated suburban women. And the problem is this if those College Educated suburban women who have been breaking away from republican parties in special election after special election and look no further than Northern Virginia where they took the democratic governor over the top in a really big way, if they think for one moment that their reproductive rights are really at risk, i think its really problematic for republicans. So i dont think its necessarily a base versus a base sort of conversation. I think the calculation is a little by different. And they will hand over the house and perhaps even the senate to democrats if, in fact, they think their reproductive rights are at issue. How it relates to i think what happened last night in new york is this those middle of the road women arent sitting around talking about and thinking about nancy pelosi. Theyre thinking about their Health Care Premiums rising. How their kids are saddled with college debt. Nancy pelosi or speaker ryan, they are good fodder for the base audiences on either side of the party. But regular everyday americans, theyre not theyre more concerned with Health Care Premiums and how theyre going to put their kids through college. So its an insiders game for the base to a certain, tent. However, i will say this. We did do polling of democratic voters across battleground states about a month ago. And you have over 60 of activists very dissatisfied with the direction of the country and 80 somewhat, you know, somewhat or very dissatisfied with the current direction of the country. Thats a lot of volatility, brian. So every incumbent should, in fact, be on edge because with that sort of volatility, they are looking for change. And if you have the smell of establishment and status quo, you have to look over your shoulder because theres a chance that you might, in fact, lose this thing. Or you could be challenged. Although were not seeing that were not seeing as many House Democrats taken out by the left in primaries as, quite frankly, were seeing on the right with republicans. Final lightning round question, cornell. Do you think that just the mention of pelosi has more of a galvanizing get to the polls effect on the Republican Base than, say, ryan on the other side . I think it probably does. Theres a lot more energy, sort of antifeminist, quite frankly, energy on the right than there is on the left. But look, in the end, i think youre going to get in the end, republicans base going to turn out. The question is, is the Democratic Base going to turn out in the midterms the way they turn out in president ial election years. Cornell belcher who studies this stuff for a living in the shadow of the u. S. Capitol. Thank you very much for coming on. Coming up for us, trump may be just weeks away from a meeting with Vladimir Putin. But what does russia stand to gain from a meeting with donald trump . That and more next. Will you meet with president putin sir . And where . Most likely. Jonathan bolton is there right now. Getting along with them is good for us, the world, everybody. Well probably be meeting sometime around my trip to europe. President trump saying today hes likely to meet with putin when he travels to europe next month, even as muellers investigation into Russian Election interference continues. He spoke about the summit after his National Security adviser, as you heard, john bolton met with several russian officials, including putin himself. With us tonight to talk about all of this, michael mcfall, author of the new book from cold war to hot peace an American Ambassador in putins russia. And the assistant director for counterintelligence who in the past has worked for Robert Mueller among others. Ambassador im going to mush together three questions. I always like to ask you how far have we strayed from normal . Did you ever think we would use bolton and beau tin in a sentence . And what is the u. S. Possibly expecting to gain from this summit . Well, lets take number two first. No. And his incredible pivot, first meeting with kim jongun and now president putin is truly remarkable to me. You know, i served in the government for five years. Ive got two decades of publications and commentary. I was never compelled to reverse my previous positions. I thank president obama for that. Thats pretty striking. But lets talk about the summit. You know, i am not against summits, brian. I planned several of them, including going to moscow, like the shots you just saw of mr. Bolton meeting with president putin. But they have to be for a reason. They have to be for an outcome. And so far we have no evidence whatsoever that the Trump Administration is preparing for an outcome that advances american National Security interests. And instead what i fear is youre going to have a photoop. Youre going to have the president saying very nice things about Vladimir Putin. Hes already done. And that therefore achieves putins objectives without getting anything in return. That is a bad deal. I dont know in business if thats a good deal, but thats a bad deal when it comes to diplomacy. Frank, diplomatic speed dating. If i appointed you 6 0second briefer of this president and said to you, your job is to kind of normal up Donald Trumps view of russia and putin, what would you say to the president . So i would remind him that Vladimir Putin poisons people, he orders people murdered who dont agree with him. And that heart at the russian goals and objectives is the goal of sewing complete disarray and undermining the american way of life. Any sitdown with putin has to start with that understanding. And so im concerned about a dangerous naivete in the president where he feels somehow that his force of individual personality, force of nature, an art of the deal approach is going to change the goals and the objectives of the russian government. Thats not going to that. So we need to have the president understand that all discussions starts from the understanding that youre dealing with an adversary, and you need to go in with your eyes open. Ambassador, because you have been in the room where it happened, in normal times, how much of a brief, how much prep work in terms of hours, say, would go in to a president sitting down with Vladimir Putin . A lot. Certainly, president obama prepared for his meetings. Ive been with Vice President biden when he met with president putin. We spent a lot of time preparing because youre there to achieve concrete jut comes. Now its unpleasant sometimes in diplomacy that you have to talk to people like Vladimir Putin, and you should never forget the past, only part of which that frank just talked about. You just cant say, well, now in the interest of getting along, lets forget about poisoning, lets forget about syria and propping up a brutal dictatorship, lets forget about annexation, something we thought was over, and lets forget about violating american sovereignty. You cant do that. But you have to then say okay, were not going to forgot about that, but were going to talk about some concrete things that we think are important for american National Security interests. And if you dont do that, then youve achieved nothing. Kind words for Vladimir Putin is exactly what he wants. That will signal that President Trump has forgotten about all of that very difficult history that weve had with russia recently. Frank, because you are so often our goto guy on all things mueller, i have to veer the car into one question on mueller. Rueters news agency had line confirmed by nbc news tonight, manafort had 10 million loan from russian oligarch, according to a court filing. How big a deal will this be. Is it just another log on the mueller fire. And im asking especially because were four weeks until the manafort trial. Youve got to agree were within the flip window. This is news because its come from an unsealed affidavit in the search warrant last year on manaforts storage facility. Mueller has known this for a long time. And those of us following closely with an intelligence back ground, we are not surprised. This indicates manafort may have been patient zero in the russian infection into the campaign. Hes likely owned and operated to the russian government. Hes indebted to them. The big question mueller has to answer is whether or not the president has fallen into that trap and whether or not the president has been compromised as well. It is always a pleasure to have you two gentlemen, especially together. Michael mcfall, frank fagluicci, thank you for coming and being a part of our conversation. Coming up, why our next guest calls the president of the United States a spys dream. Heres a hint hes a veteran spy. When the 11th hour continues. Ahh. Summer is coming. And its time to get outside. Pack in even more adventure with audible. With the Largest Selection of audiobooks. Audible lets you follow plot twists off the beaten track. Or discover magic when you hit the open road. With the free audible app, your stories go wherever you do. And for just 14. 95 a month you get a credit, good for any audiobook. If you dont like it exchange it any time. No questions asked. You can also roll your credits to the next month if you dont use them. 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Veterans Counter Terrorism here with us tonight the second balk on this topic of russian influence within the u. S. Good evening and welcome and tell me why he would be an easy mark in your line of work . He has all of the hallmarks of the type of person who canning influenced to lets not used word betray, but influenced to carry out actions that would not be the best interest of his nation but in the best interest of himself. National leaders dont have to recruit. Thats the way you get them through door. Using psychological welfare technique. They can build a bubble around spu craft your decisions, technically but you in a decisionmaking matrix that benefits them and them only. If you are a unwitting asset. You can make decisions that will cross him. And he is a whiting asset. Russia, if you are releasing, release the 33,000 emails. He knew things were being activated and going for his personal benefit. If you are in this matrix they have constructed and you are witting, you belong to them. Everything benefits them. Let me ask you a question as a veteran and a patriot. How would our nation feel if it is normal times and our election hacked and mobilized to fight an inevitable second hacking. They should feel alarmed and we should of had a moon shot National Cyber Security Initiative which would have protected our fundamental value. Free and fair elections. We are a constitution republic, a democracy that protects the minority. We have done nothing. I suspect we wont have the open blatant hacking of changing the numbers on the ballots but will have an enormous amount of compromisable blackmailing information. Releasing stuff into the news and hoping they become the dagger that kills democracy. In 45 seconds or less, do you share reel concerns that trump goes to the nato summit and says catch you guys later and seen hanging out with Vladimir Putin . Yes. The best way to put this is and this by the way one of my contributors on twitter said. When reagan met with him he went to mark the beginning of the end of the soviet union. When he goes to this trip whenever it is held, he may be going there to mash the end of american democracy. Releasing stuff into the news and hoping they become the dagger that kills democracy. In 45 seconds or less, do you share reel concerns that trump goes to the nato summit and says catch you guys later and seen hanging out with Vladimir Putin . Yes. The best way to put this is and this by the way one of my contributors on twitter said. When reagan met with him he went to mark the beginning of the end of the soviet union. When he goes to this trip whenever it is held, he may be going there to mash the end of american democracy. Friend, you get our attention. It is hard to believe it is all fact and portions read otherwise. Thank you very much. Coming up, what north korea has been up to since the summit and why this may run counter to the president s narrative when we continue. Better, faster by daft punk is heard throughout. sound of typing sound of exhaling sound of drilling jimmy shouting james brand vo the Worlds Largest workforce works for themselves. We work for them. Quickbooks. Backing you. Yits hard to believe,ranteed. But ive been talking about the Colonial Penn Life Insurance company for almost 25 years. So call now. Call now. Make the call now. I must have said call now hundreds of times. Millions of people have already called. But what about those who havent . announcer isnt it time for you to call about the number one most popular whole Life Insurance plan available from Colonial Penn . Recently, a friend of mine died, and although his funeral was a modest one, it cost more than the national average, announcer the average cost of a funeral today is over 8,500. 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The world is going to be safer and north korea going to be be a better place and agreed to denuclearization and no more testing. We signed an agreement. Saying we will begin the immediate denuclearization of north korea. The big thing is the denuclearization and it says in the first paragraph, we will denuclearize north korea. We are well on our way to get denuclearization and the agreement says there be be total denuclearization. It commits them to work towards complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. Thats a problem. And this is why it is back in the news. New satellite imagery, a private Analyst Group in washington shows that improvements to the infrastructure at north Koreas Nuclear Scientific Research center are continuing at a rapid pace. The the details and imagery shows modification for a cooling system for a reactor and several instances of new construction. The wall street journal was blunt saying the new imagery showed no immediate effort to begin denuclearization. The photos captured nine days after the summit and tonight at the rally the president mentioned north korea and not as specific about what was agreed to at that summit. That for us is our broadcast on a busy wednesday night. Thank you so very much for being here with us. Good night from msnbc headquarters here in new york. Listen, if youre on a low carb die yet youre in luck because aint no way to sugar coat this. Today arptny kennedy announced hes retiring from the Supreme Court. I never thought id say this, but youre only 81. This morning, reaction pouring into the news that Supreme Court Justice Anthony kendy kennedy is retiring. And president feeds the crowd with red meat including unrestrained attacks on congressional
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