On for a while but was now still has a lot of popularity. I think its 60something percent, 67 of Americans Still treating him like something of a trust what he has to say about political opponent. A document was sent around to reporters from anonymous white this virus, and that is what has house officials laying out bothered the president and his comments that fauci made in the early days of the outbreak when top aides and advisers for little was known even by the months now, is the idea that experts, which those officials have tried to paint as inaccurate. Dr. Fauci is giving his opinion, not the white house line, which the a. P. Reports tonight, quote, faucis public contradictions of is unlike other spokespeople trump have been viewed by the they have out there like the head of health and human president as a personal affront services or the surgeon general, and have caused some in the west who for the most part are in lockstep messagingwise with the white house. Wing to sour on the doctor. Dr. Fauci has been out there on the effort is part of a white his own messagingwise. House effort to counterpunch on behalf of trump. And the president and his aides say, listen, the white house is fauci has not commented on these the one who is going to make the call here. Reports, but he did continue to warn about this virus in an the president is the one making interview today with Stanford University. The decisions, and they dont like the idea that fauci seems and here it is. To have more influence than the president of the United States. Its happened, you know. Well, theres a lot of reasons why were in that position. Your Worst Nightmare, the perfect storm. This is a really serious but this has certainly been problem. It is truly historic. Something going on for months. It goes to the very top level of the administration. We havent even begun to see the end of it yet. Until you get it completely the president s closest advisers under control, its still going to be a threat. Have been criticizing fauci. So when you ask where these talking points come from, i of course wording like Worst Nightmare and perfect storm cant reveal our reporting to happens to contradict trumps that extent, but i can say at messaging today and nearly every the very closest level, inner circle of the president is this day that, quote, we are doing a great job. Criticism and concern about fauci also talked about these latest outbreaks. Faucis ability to carry a we did not shut down message to the public that is not the message the white house entirely, and thats the reason wants out there. Why when we went up, we started. Hey, kim, education secretary devos made the mistake of running headlong into dana bash then as we started to reopen, were seeing the surges that this weekend on cnn, where she were seeing today. May have made history becoming the First Education secretary not to have students or their this morning the president of the United States retweeted a teachers and their safety as a Conspiracy Theory written by the top of mind, number one concern. Noted Infectious Disease after that somewhat disastrous specialist chuck woolery. Actually hes the former host of outing, where does the campaign the dating game and Love Connection and is a celebrity stand to reopen this nations spokesman for blue emu arthritis schools, especially after those cream. Two big markets in california today . Woolery wrote and the president later distributed to the free well, i think those two big world, quote, the most districts in california are a outrageous lies are the ones about covid19. Big indication of how local and everyone is lying. State leaders have lost faith that they will get any sort of the cdc, media, democrats, our guidance, any sort of instruction from the federal doctors, not all but most, that we are told to trust. Government besides open up or else. Its all about the election and keeping the economy from coming secretary devos has threatened back, which is about the election. Stripping funding from schools that do not have that do not this afternoon, both trump and the white house seemed to signal their support for dr. Fauci. Reopen when School Leaders are saying what they want is to reopen, but to do that, they need more funds. I have a very good they need more guidance. They need more support so that relationship with dr. Fauci. They can put in place safety ive had for a long time, right from the beginning. I find him to be a very nice measures, finding the right person. I dont always agree with him. Enough room to space children i closed the border, as you know, to china. Apart, ramping up testing for i closed i did the ban on china, heavily infected, and we saved tens of thousands of students and teachers and lives, and dr. Fauci will admit administrators, figuring exactly that it was a good decision. It was very early. That was in january, long before what to do if numbers spike or it was thought of as the right continue to grow once schools thing to do. I get along with him very well. Are reopening because closing i like him personally. Them down again would be theres no Opposition Research being dumped to reporters. We were asked a very specific from the federal government, you question by the washington are seeing districts like in los angeles and san diego saying, we post, and that question was cannot do this. President trump noted that dr. Fauci had made some mistakes, and we provided a you are seeing parents who want direct answer to what was a direct question. Dr. Fauci and the president have nothing more than to be able to always had a very good working send their kids to school so relationship. That they can learn and so that the parents can find a way to go the New York Times reports and nbc news has confirmed that back to work, saying that they fauci was back at the white dont want to send their children back to school even in some districts in the d. C. Area house today meeting with trumps and other places that are chief of staff mark meadows. Planning on moving ahead with at prescheduled meeting were told. Least a partial reopening. So its a big mess. One topic that may have been under discussion, however, the secretary is certainly out californias major rollback of of step with the people who are its reopening efforts just on the ground, and the democrats today, including ordering all are using that as a campaign bars in the state closed. Message for one more reason why californias been averaging over they say donald trump must be 8,000 new cases a day as of voted out of office. Sunday. Florida reported over 12,000 new dr. Minor, i saw an interview cases today. On television tonight with an internist from the washington, yesterday, as you may know, d. C. Metro area, reports hes florida set a National Pandemic got a patient who has had this twice. Record with more than 15,000 seeing more mentions of this in cases, the highest oneday total of any state. Literature and contemporaneous news reporting. That goes to florida. What can you add to this . Today the Florida Governor was greeted with open anger as he started his daily briefing. Were still learning about immunity following infection with covid19 and also were we came to jackson in, i learning about how to lessen the think, early march when this pandemic was really starting to effects, lower the severity of pick up steam. An infection with covid19. At that point i dont even know if miamidade had a case, a whether or not there is or how positive test. Many cases of patients who maybe a couple, but it was recover from covid19 who can obviously much different than then become reinfected, thats what were finding here. A matter of intense investigation. So i think the we do know that many people we have recordbreaking cases following an infection do mount every day, and you are doing nothing. An immune response, and that you are falsifying information, immune response does seem to be and you are misleading the protective for at least a period public. Of time in many people. Over 4,000 people have died, and but the true instance of the you are blaming the protesters. Protection, the length, those you guys have no plans, and youre doing nothing. Shame on you are all things that are being investigated today, and its important because as we bring ron desantis, an ardent trump new therapies online, therapies supporter, went on to say things that should be beneficial before had stabilized in florida, a vaccine is available, its stressed the need for faster important that those new covid test results. Therapies either reduce the the Washington Post is viral load because they prevent reporting on nationwide delays the virus from replicating or with some test sites struggling to provide results in five to actually block, as monoclonal seven days as they promised. Antibodies do, the attachment of the virus to its receptor. So those are things that are in an oped for cnbc, former being actively investigated today. Trump chief of staff mick its certainly going to be big news to survivors walking mulvaney complained, quote, i around with what they believe to be antibodies. Know it isnt popular to talk about in some republican shannon pettypiece, the circles, but we still have a testing problem in this country. President ial campaign is now, of my son was tested recently. Course, so thoroughly we had to wait five to seven intertwined with this. Days for results. My daughter wanted to get tested the politics of the pandemic, the mechanics of health and the before visiting her grandparents pandemic, is it being adlibbed, but was told she didnt qualify. This is simply inexcusable at do you think, on a daily basis . This point in the pandemic. Well, ive been told that the at this point it is fair to president is intentionally quickly note mulvaney once called the coronavirus a hoax. Staying away from talking about now its suddenly very real for him and his family. Coronavirus, that that strategy yet both the president and his having him be the daily voice of the response, going out there doing the press conferences press secretary are still insisting the nation is far obviously did him no favors. Ahead on testing. So as we see this second wave or continuation of the first wave, trump also repeated the false however you want to characterize theory that testing is driving it, we are not hearing from the up the number of cases while president talk about this. Seeming to try to blame his predecessor. It is the Vice President who is out there doing the traveling, youve said many times that and that by his advisers is intentional and they feel like the number of coronavirus cases its best for him politically to stay away from this. Is going up because testing is increasing. From a campaign perspective, the thats right. Do you acknowledge that its number one issue in the country, the thing that is on every going up for other reasons too . Americans mind, the president for example, that its actually spreading . Is not touching. You know, biden and obama stopped their testing. So he is running a risk here of they just stopped it. They stopped testing right in looking alienated from where the the middle. Rest of the country is or out of touch. They just went, no more testing. And on the campaign front, when we test more than anybody by it comes to these rallies, weve far, and when you test, you create cases. Now seen two events, an alabama so weve created cases. Rally and this New Hampshire as weve always said that there would be embers. Rally canceled really as a there would be fires. Result of concerns about the coronavirus. So when youre testing more than any country in the world, youre going to identify more cases. The campaign was so built around a tiny fact check here. These rallies, you know, they werent just part of the the coronavirus did not exist strategy. They were the strategy. During the obama administration. There was no test for it. That was the campaign, the rallies. So now you have those. Meanwhile today came a so you dont have the rallies, significant setback to trumps and you have the president who push to reopen our schools. Is not addressing the number one issue in the country. The l. A. Unified and san diego so that puts him in a very Public School districts difficult spot, and it is announced the school year will certainly a transition point in the campaign. It has been a reboot after start remote only in august. The president , of course, is blaming politics. Reboot after reboot for the past few weeks. And, you know, there is going to we have to open the schools. Have to be some strategy going we have to get them open, and i forward. Think theres a lot of politics but right now, my reporting going along. I think they think theyll do indicates they have not found what that strategy is going to be at this moment. Better if they can keep the schools closed in the election. Hey, kim, two things are i dont think its going to help true. Them frankly, but i think they number one, the toughest ads of feel that by keeping schools closed, thats a bad thing for the country, and therefore republicans, some of them thats a good thing for them. Disaffected republicans. Number two, joe biden is saving this afternoon, i asked the secretary of education under a fortune in Television Ads and things like jet fuel by president obama about the wisdom campaigning from delaware. What do you hear from the biden of reopening schools in a pandemic. Campaign these days . There is no body count high yeah, they are feeling enough for the president to actually Pay Attention to science. Confident that right now its we could lose another 10,000. Not a bad strategy to let President Trump beat himself, we could lose another 50,000. We could lose another 100,000. Which if you believe recent polling, he is doing. Nothing would compel him to although shannons absolutely listen to dr. Fauci and others. Right, hes trying to stay away were actually fighting to save from the coronavirus, based on lives, and schools are not going recent polls, voters are holding to put teachers, principals, him responsible for the fact their children, or their childrens families in a that the coronavirus is not under control. Position of risk thats far too high. And the former Vice President is do not Pay Attention to trump. Benefiting from that, and so dont be scared of his bluffs. He does not care whether you that campaign is really live or die. Hunkering down, focusing on the Pay Attention to local people swing states, and letting the who live in your community. Lincoln project ads and other ads do the work elsewhere, please listen to them. Including here in d. C. Where here for our leadoff discussion on a monday night, those ads play a lot because the shannon pettypiece, veteran intended target is the president. Journalist, senior White House Reporter for us at nbc news but at the same time, theyre digital. Facing some concerns from kimberly atkins, senior washington correspondent for democrats outside of their wbur, bostons npr news station. Circle who want to see joe biden she has been named to the Editorial Board of the boston go big, to campaign and try to globe. Get voters in places like texas and dr. Lloyd minor, dean of and arizona, thinking that a Stanford University school of medicine. Resounding victory would not dr. Minor has expertise in only prevent President Trump predictive medicine, diagnostic research. From claiming fraud or some he is also by training a head and neck surgeon, a member of other kind of shenanigans with the National Academy of the Election Results but also help downballot candidates medicine, and he interviewed across the country if biden dr. Anthony fauci today about this coronavirus pandemic. Campaigns in a broader way. Doctor, that interview earned you our starting part tonight. They believe that the winds are at his back. Im going to play for you so hes facing that, but right this is tony fauci from february. Now theyre playing it cool with this is important because its some time left before the election. One of the quotes the white doc minor, shannon pettypiece, thanks as well. House, in attacking him, circulated this weekend, but kim atkins, we hope youll still they just used the first talk to us little folk when you portion. Get to the Editorial Board of the boston globe. Congratulations. As youll see, dr. Fauci goes on. Thats great news. Well talk about it on the other side. Coming up for us, a few weeks ago one Great American at this moment, there is no need to change anything that youre doing on a daybyday basis. City could count coronavirus cases on one hand. Not anymore. Right now the risk is still low, but this could change. Well talk about what happened. Well talk about whether or not ive said that many times even on this program. Its a warning light to the rest of the country. The mayor will join us next. Youve got to watch out because although the risk is low now, you dont need to change also he wrote the book on anything youre doing. Trump, at least one of them. When you start to see community when he says the president is in spread, this could change and force you to become much more survivor mode, were going to get him to tell us what that means for all the rest of us. Attentive to doing things that would protect you from spread. The 11th hour just getting so you see, doctor, all the under way as we start a new week here on a monday night. Warnings and caveats came after that first sentence saying theres no need for people to change their behavior. February 29th was decades ago in terms of this pandemic. At a basic level, doctor, can you believe there is a hit job out from inside the white house on the premier Infectious Disease specialist our country has in the middle of a pandemic with 136,000 americans dead . Well, thank you, brian. First we know that this is a very serious virus. Its a very serious infection, and as you have pointed out, its caused a lot of illness and