The president now . No. I dont, no i dont have nothing to say to him. Lets remember, general john kelly deployed his considerable stature to back trump and frame this as fight between a serious president and loud, lying member of congress. Then the tape surfaced showing it was kelly who had his facts wrong and today miss johnsons remarks it show you you can take congresswoman out of the picture and still have word of grieving mother contradicting the word of president. A president who has broken records for his misleading and false statements in office. General kelly, it is not too late for you. You can correct this record so we can all move on. But asking people to move on without correcting the record isnt moving on at all. In fact it is contrary to the
accountability required. No person is above checks and balances. Joining me, joint call from cbc urging General Kelly to apologize for blatant lies about congresswoman johnson. First niger. Former terror Intelligence Officer and longtime journalist, author of fantasyland, relevant to part of this debate. Malcolm, what do you make of where this goes now, military trying to do relatively serious but nonpartisan briefings with the undertow of a president who continues to want to submerge everyone in what appear to be falsehoods . Right now Department Of Defense and special Operations Command and Africa Command will
be doing deep dive after action reports to get to the bottom of how this ambush formed, how the personnel on the ground managed the fight on the ground. And theres one thing missing from the story, Sergeant Johnson got separated at some point but managed to move a mile away from the contact point. That shows he was fighting on the move, fighting and evading as single man unit. And Defense Department is going to investigate that and going to want to know how he got separated, what kind of Combat Support was brought in and whether it could be done faster. But there are two stories here, political story and story of the four heroes on the ground and Special Forces Oda and how they managed to overcome overwhelming odds. All these stories will come out. Heres what he said about the
information owed to the families. With regard to being transparent, i think we owe the families and American People transparence in incidents like this. How should that work malcolm, given something you understand better than most of us, aspects of this that are sensitive even as they say they want to rule out what happened so people know . To a certain extent weve had problems with this issue before. Transparence of the administration when a loved one, member of the armed forces died. Remember the issue with pat tillman in afghanistan, former nfl player who became a ranger, went into combat and initial report he was killed in combat by enemy force, turned out to be friendly fire. These issues should have been worked out in advance. These families deserve to know as much as humanly possible about the loss of their loved
deference of Military Officer and played that up making a false political attack. The congresswoman stood up in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, sto stood up there in all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building. Even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned. That attack stays on the record. Videos been played. Msnbc went to the trouble of playing entire video to see it in context and make up their minds. Series of lies. Only an issue when donald trump made it one in impromptu press conference by lying about is having written to almost every person whos died and lying about predecessors never calling survivors of dead soldiers and
marines. Those two lies existed. General kelly gets out there, perfectly fine moving beginning of this thing, then pivots to this lie about what the congresswoman had done at dedication of the fbi building he attended a few years ago. Its extraordinary. This doesnt need to exist. The niger event is an event of a kind that happens. Could have been put away. Donald trump could have answered that initial Press Conference Question with my heart is with the survivors and brave men who died. He wasnt asked a pressing question, just why havent you said anything about this mr. President. Right. And john mccain, military service, not a prerequisite but interesting to hear him go there. We drafted lowest income level of america and highest income level found a doctor that
what have we learned . What is your view where we go from here . And what is it incumbent on Chief Of Staff john kelly to do now that the video has been exposed . General kelly can take the responsibility for admitting that he was wrong, that he had lied on the congresswoman. I think its important for us all to work to get this behind us. First of all, make it absolutely clear our heart goes out to the families of all of the soldiers who were killed in niger. And we should let them know that not only do they have our condolences but we stand with them and appreciate the sacrifice they all are making. Having said that, this president , President Trump did it again. He has the most distorted leadership of any president ive ever known or heard about. Here he had the opportunity to make the condolence call, do it properly, recognize this family and their grieving and also to know the name of the soldier who had been killed. He did not remember the name, he didnt handle it well. And even if he had been counseled to talk about, perhaps, young people going into war, into service like this understand the risks involved. But he didnt do it correctly and he needs to admit that. First, he needs to apologize. He lied on other president s that had gone on before him, saying they didnt do it as well as he did. That he called everyone. And in typical trump fashion gets off the phone, is challenged and backtracks, tries to call all those families, gets
his personnel to identify all the families who have lost members in service to this country and then he tries to make up by sending some kind of a letter or note to them. It is so unconsonable in the way he handles leadership. And General Kelly has had a great career and have his career basically unmined by the president of the United States because hes trying to protect and stand up for the president when the president did not deserve to be stood up for, hes damaged himself. His credibility is at question. He needs to call the congresswoman and apologize. He lied on the congresswoman. He said he was there, he said he heard her, and then, when the video clip was played that basically demonstrated exactly what she said and how she said
it, it was obvious that he had lied. So he needs to apologize. If the president will apologize to mrs. Johnson and if General Kelly will apologize to congresswoman, i think we can put this behind us. But until that is done, it is not going to go away. Youre absolutely correct. All of the women of the Congressional Black Caucus have come together and were demanding an apology. Were sick and tired of women being undermined, dismissed, and Black Women In Particular Being called named. She was called wacky, Fredericka Wilson an honorable member of the House Of Representatives that we all respect. I followed the cbc, does a lot of work on policy, is it your view she was treated differently because of her race and gender . I think it goes along with
it. He seems to have this tendency to talk down to people of color, to treat them with disrespect. And i think this adds to it. I think the fact that first of all, he called her wacky, secondly, that he didnt back down, that he simply talked about her in a way that was not respectful. I think that yes, i think is adds to the suspicion of him and the way that he thinks about minorities and black people in particular. Congresswoman waters, thanks for coming on the beat. Youre welcome. Thank you. Coming up, interview with top putin critic found himself put on the most wanted list, kremlin silencing critics using global policing. And bill oreillys handling of Sexual Harassment lawsuits. Talk about that and Womens Rights in the trump era. Planned parenthood president. And talk about the Opioid Crisis and his heartfelt words for people struggling with addiction. Im ari melber, youre watching the beat on the msnbc. I take pictures of sunrises, but with my back pain I Couldnt Sleep and get up in time. Then i found aleve pm. Aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. Im back. Aleve pm for a better am. Discover card. I justis this for real . Match, yep. We match all the cash back
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proceeding. Podesta news shows that interviews confirmed with Reince Priebus and Sean Spicer Show that. What else are you seeing . Is it relevant if the president will testify . Its relevant to ask if the president could be in on this. In the past, waco debacle, had a Phone Conversation to interview then president bill clinton. Theres precedent for moouler to speak with trump. Cant predict it. Over the last week and likely for next two weeks, current and former white house staff are sitting down for interviews with mueller and his team and thats a legally risky situation. Likely to be fbi agents present for the interviews. If any of the white house staff answering questions deliberately lie could face legal liability. Some folks close to the white
house want to suggest this podesta news means mueller changed focus, reality is its complex, bigger than most reports can explain in clear bay and not likely to be over soon. And theres reports that congressional side theres more partisan drama. Bipartisan accounting appears to be dwindling. Republicans looking to wrap it up. Shift from the beginning where it looked bipartisan. They have elections coming up. Want to wrap things up. Not pretty topic for republicans regardless of where they stand. Has to do with russias interference in the election. Significant news about mueller investigating podesta. This transcends politics. Mueller is not a political hack. Evidence that Something Big is going on here. Also work going on before President Trump announced candidacy. Whether or not it benefits trump remains to be seen. Not a rabbit hole though. First glances looks like might be rabbit hole and unrelated to probe and going down political channels but its not. Its all connected to Paul Manafort, President Trumps campaign chair. Noose is tightening on manafort. Speaking to experts on the Foreign Agents Registration Act is fun to do. Not many of them. They said fact that Rachel Maddow is doing reports on fara is amazing to them. Thats the law that could hit
the Podesta Group. Look at motivation, Bob Mueller Will Go where he goes. Argument is could be good news for donald trump if theres no findings of collusion, anybody else hit on the playing field, can get rid of staff. Hes done that. Mueller is going to follow where it leads but Rod Rosenstein, number two at Justice Department will have to make big decisions. Regulation for Special Counsel Dictates if mueller or anybody else finds evidence of a crime outside the scope of his or her mandate, may have to go to attorney general, Rod Rosenstein in this case to decide what to do with that evidence. Rosenstein could be in the position of deciding what to do with what mueller and team find here. Another piece thats important,
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shocking information. That is part of oreillys side as well as his denials which weve reported. Another side, former fox news host who came out today speaking on megyn kelly today. Im terrified, i dont know why im about to cry. It is just difficult, many women go into the Settlement Agreement because they just dont want to face what potentially could be coming at them. Again, dealing with a corporation, filled with people who are going to do everything they possibly can to make sure that they win and you dont. And im joined by cecile richards. What is your accounting of all these allegations stacking up and coming out. Horrifying, beginning with Harvey Weinstein stories and continuing on. As youre seeing across the country, not a woman in america
who isnt now reliving some experience. I just really want to thank the women who have been brave enough and had the courage to come forward. Its establishing how prevalent this is. And frightening thing, how prevalent it may be even with the policies of the u. S. Government. Right. And when women know its prevalent and epidemic or seen as something that you sadly must get through, and must deal with and get on with in work environment, what does it take to make men aware of how prevalent this is . Seems to be a group of people doing pred dags, thats bad and group of people silently enabling it or in denial how prevalent it is. We see this at Planned Parenthood every day, treat women who h