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MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber December 12, 2017

Hes not just sauntering. He is kind of well, he was kind of galoping. Theres sassy. Weve been waiting for it. The cowboy closing imagery. Vintage roy moore. Distracting and totally beside the point. In fact his chief point and chief critic doug jones did not close with an image. He closed with two connecting themes. The shame of moores alleged history and the shame he says of alabama if tonight it cosigns that record and hands moore a promotion to the u. S. Senate. In alabama, we have come so far with too many things. Theres this saying. Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Alabama wont happen again. This is the choice tonight. Youre looking at i. In any typical year the republican would be expected to win an Alabama Senate race handily. But the allegations did show the race tightening. Voting is still underway. The exit polls does show a majority of alabama voters saying that should be, could be good news for roy moore. The majority did not view the allegations against him as a major factor in their vote. Thats the latest on the ground. In the air, if you can call it. Trumps twitter accounts with an air war. He was back taking a very controversial shot at senator gillibrand which she responded to and called a sexist smear. So is all of that enough fireworks in this unusual night in american politics . Apparently not. I can also report that senator warren jump in the to get ji gillibra gillibrands back. And journalists in alabama, including coming out against roy moore plus experts across the south and washington. Republicans are wondering if they might be losing a key vote for tax reform. I begin with a former candidate and current candidate of the peoples house project which recruits candidates. She is author have reversing the apocalypse. She is my colleague and friend. Ill joined by attorney michelle bernard. Author of we wiomens progress. We dont know anything yet. The polls close soon but they have not closed what do you think is on the line . What are you watching for . Well, right now im waiting to find out whetherqfp ill b drinking in celebration or despair. Thats whats at stake for me personally. You know, i think one thing we can say difinitively right now from a Democratic Party perspective, from my perspective, is that it pays to compete everywhere. If you had said months before that alabama would be competitive, people would have told you thats insane. What we see is when we really field quality candidates, no matter where they are, we get in the race. We force the other side to spend money and we get in a position to take advantage of unusual circumstances. Tonight, and this moment in history, is full of all kinds of unusual circumstances. Very unusual. And you make such an important point. People think it is boring, what is the registration deadline and how important is it to have candidates in the field. Michelle, take a listen to the wife of roy moore making something of a closing arguments about the identities of people they say are their friends last night. Fake news would have you think that my husband doesnt support the black community. We had many friends that are black. Fake news would tell you that we dont care for jews. One of our attorneys is a jew. Michelle bernard. Comment as you see fit. I have a term for you that a psychologist friend of mine that i increasingly turn on for help in figuring out what on earth is going on in the country. Gave me8ys abf material today basically french. It means, shared madness. What she described to me is that the whole country, particularly the state of alabama, is living in the shared madness of donald trump and what has become Donald Trumps america. You look at roy moores wife. She appears to have absolutely no clue whatsoever that she just demonstrated blatant racism by explaining to us that theyve got a jew who works in the ju qds that he happen to be black. It is just, it is absolutely so absurd. Particularly when you look at his wife and all of the things on the table. Lets face it. One of the most important things, from my perspective, that is on trial tonight is does the state of alabama, does the president of the United States, does the United States Congress Care about the lives of girls and women and children . It is the most important issue of the night from my perspective. The entire country is on trial what does our democracy mean . Remember, roy moore is the man who once said that the United States constitution should have af amendment. Youre a lawyer. You know what that means. Weapons rights came after the, womens rights came after the tenth amendment. The abolition of slavery came after the tenth amendment. He thinks the country should have stopped then. You put it so well and you combine that with his record of flouting the law, being removed as a judge because of his refusal to follow orders. Twice. Not a quality you look for in a judge. What were seeing in exit polls is how tight some of the issues are. Were not reporting on anything regarding the outcome. The polls are open. Shame is a potent cultural force in this moment. Unless youre dealing with a man lying trump. And an alabama delegate who has come out against roy moore. Yz you. If youre against moore mf5v yo are a former trump delicate, who did you vote for . I hate to say im against moore. I am really for a writein republican. I support the republican agenda. I wont say im against moore. He is a human being like everybody else and i feel like the rhetoric has been pretty harsh with him. And i understand peoples views when they their things have come out of campaign or from his mouth. But its different here. You made a decision as a longstanding republican not to vote for him. I dont mean, in politics, we use so many words. I dont mean to overword the a word, meaning youre against his presence on earth. But i understand theres a reason not to vote for him today. Yes. And i did not vote for him. And i want to support the republican agenda but i did not feel like, i felt like some of the women were credible. Especially the 14yearold, they havent been discredited. I mean, i think that her word is all we can go on. And we dont who know is guilty or innocent of what. But from looking at the information that ive seen, and reading the Washington Post article. I thought they vetted it very well. I just, i cant help but just think that there may be something there. As senator shelby said, where theres smoke, there may be fire. So thats the way i look at i too. Plus his years on the supreme court, he didnt uphold the law. And maybe it was for moral, religious reasons. And i understand that. But when youre elected to an office, it is the peoples office and i feel like that he should have done more with his job and used it appropriately to make a difference versus take stand and be suspended, twice. Michelle and then leroy. Your views on what were seeing . Well, look, laura is the kind of vote per the Moore Campaign was trying to reach with their efforts to discredit the women. They didnt try to argue that this was okay. They would just flat out, these women cant be believed. This is all a plot by the Washington National need. Steve bannon is down there saying people will try the come in and tell you how to vote. Dont you fall for that. What they were trying to do is make people, turn this into a contest between alabama values and the rest of the country. They didnt want this to be about roy moore thefrlt wanted it to be about cultural pride. For voters like laura, it was down the, what does your conscience tell but these allegations. Obviously, the entire election will hinge on, to some degree, which way these people decided to go. Leah and then crystal . Well, so win or lose, the Republican Party is the party of donald trump and roy moore. This is who they want representing them. This is who they have stumped for. This is who they have come out in support of. Thats incredibly damaging. Particularly as the Republican Party tries to reinvent itself as it does every couple of decades or so. I think one. Things to watch here is how are black voters responding to this election. In particular, to roy moore. And they are not having it. They are not happy. Wide gulf between the Republican Voters and the party. This has done lasting damage. I would think what are the implications beyond that and this election. And if could i just lay one other piece on the table here, roy moore is what you get when you buy into a sort of apocalyptic vision of politics which is exactly what steve bannon promotes. This us versus them idea. You would rather have anybody in there than a democrat. Our values are at stake. Clashes, civilizations. If you buy into that view that the world will end if your party doesnt win, then can lead a person to supporting all sorts of abhorrent behavior, what has been alleged against roy moore. So i think roy moore is the logical outcome of exactly the steveorrxr bannon and donald tr view of the world and our country. Can i add sure. I know your piece was about that. Im going back. I think we have to keep taking it back to women and im looking at the state of alabama. Theyve had two we will in the senate in the history of the state. Both women were appointed. Both were in office five months sxonl both have sort of checkerchecker ed pasts. So im looking back. Dixie bibb graves. She was appointed by her husband who was the governor and also her first cousins. She was a womens rights advocate. When she had an opportunity to vote against antilynching legislation, she spoke impassioned about it. As it was reported. But she still voted against passing antilynching legislation in the state of alabama because of the fear of the states losing rights and losing sovereignty. I am hoping that tonight the state of alabama has put that checkered flag behind them. That we will see women step forward. Say that they believe in their girls, in their women. And that they donal put roy moore in the United States senate. It is not about that. It is not about believing the women with a lot ofmh they dont believe the allegations. The majority of the voters do not believe the allegations. Im in the minority. Especially withly3d gloria all represents one of them and she documented some information under the signature and didnt come out with it 100 like she should have. That discredits her story. And it is unfortunate but it does. This election is not just about roy moore. It is about the Republican Party wanting to support their agenda, to support donald trump in the white house. It is much larger than roy moore. Whoever wins, its not just about roy moore. The National Press and media want to playing it where it is about roy moore. In alabama, it is not just about roy moore. Hes what weve got. These will a gagss came out after he won. And a lot of thesegdftn voters voting republican because of the republican agenda. Not necessarily the man. Thats why4copc youre here. Im using full names because i have multiple michelles. We see it with alabama voters. Definitely or probably true is about half. And then you have probably false and definitely false. A real split which is alsoe on partisan lines. Is that, given all the reporting a and, is that problemproblematic. Absolutely. The Moore Campaign has tried very hard to not make this about what moore may or may not have done. Theyve just tried to discredit the entire reality that these women have presented. And it is a similar play book page to what donald trump has done, in many cases. You have a reality that you dont like. c very. When you say that about people, theres an argument youre trying to disappear people themselves. Which is a big problem but a big part of the debate. I want to fit in a break. We have special election coverage. Please stay with me. I have more to ask you about. Coming up, there is a lot of explosive energy here including donald trump accused of tryingq to, quote, slut shame the senator. Theyre calling for a special counsel to investigate the doj itself and number two, ty cobb making some news with a big claim. Ill tell you later in the show. Also, another big issue that could play a big role thats not getting enough attention. It has to do with childrens health. This is a special edition of the beat. Do you want clean, stain free dentures . Try polident. The four in one cleaning system kills 99. 99 of odor causing bacteria, cleans where brushing may miss. 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But donald trump has viciously attacked a leading senator and thus wedged his way into the news. Senator gillibrand saying the attack is a sexist smear. Saying that shen1 n would come his office begging for money. Saying she would do anything for failed attempt on silence her. It was a sexist smear taxing to silence my voice and i will not be silenced on this issue. Neither will the women who stood up to the president yesterday and neither are the millions of women who have stood up against policies they do not agree with. Saying that he was trying to slut shame the senator. Putting the people in the white house on blast, saying it is time to draw a line. For the people who work for you, you need to act. Sarah huckabee sanders, good luck today in the briefing. But everybody else, working around the president , if your day is not consumed by getting him to take godown that tweet, please leave. Youre worth nothing. You dont care about women and you will support a man who does Something Like that. Lets just say it. He is suggest go that she would have sex with him to get Campaign Contributions . The president actually tweeted that this morning. Joining me,g what the president is doing with this type of politics and the response were seeing from democrats. Yeah. I mean just when you think he cant stoop any lower, he manages to. And picking on senator gillibrand, he has a fighter on his hands. This is a timeless technique used by men when women step out of line of where they think they should be. It is called slut shaming. S y every woman in america who has ever tried to do anything that was uncomfortable for a man around them has likely found themselves victims of this. So i think mikka is right to call out, not just the women around the president but every person around the president who lets this go is absolutely complicit. What donald trump did today is sexual harassment. Full stop. If my boss said, insinuated that do i sexual favors for money, i would have a very strong case for sexual harassment. It is interesting. We have a tape of donald trump bragging about get go away with sexual assault. We dont need a tape of him getting away with sexual harassment. He does it all the time in broad daylight. He did it this morning with this tweet. He has done it to mikka bring n bringsinsky. The horrifying facelift comment. He did it to Hillary Clinton in the last debate where he followed her on stage and physically intimidated her. This is what he does. He doesnt think theres anything wrong with that. Give us the larger [q i want to play the white house response. There are many ways a government response might address the comment made. But instead, Sarah Huckabee sanders appeared to try to blame thendzzn critics. The gillibrand owed an apology . Many think that it is about sexual innuendo. Only if your mind is in the gutter would you take that it way. It was about the broken system that hes talked about repeatedly. 181 attack . Thats just what the Trump Administration has done every day since theyve been in power. Project on to others what they do themselves. What is so interesting, on the eve of the election, tonight in alabama, if donald trump isnt a predator, why does he constantly predators . Why does he align himself with an alleged child molester . Alabama is this why did he go with roger ailes . He also defended mike tyson when he was accused and convicted of rape. So if donald trump80ndz again h nothing that he is hiding, he is not a predator, all these women are lying against him. Why are doesnt he want to prove it . Why dont they let an ethics investigation happen for that cloud to be lifted . Right. And this is on the night of the special election, digging in. Thank you both. President trumps lawyer now calling for a newoqg counsel to investigate who . The Justice Department. 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