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The days biggest political and news stories, with interviews and reporting from around the nation. Disclosure statements, have hearings into the trump russia probe, strengthen the Mueller Probe as opposed to allowing trump to shut it down. Stephanie, if you want to party like its 1999 for a second, lets talk dvd evidence, not the usual format everyones familiar with. But Michael Avenatti made a lot of noise about this. They tried to get more details from him on the view. He did something that viewers will recognize, random flattery. Take a look at avenatti on the view. Do they have anything to do with the dvd . Do they have anything to do with the dvd . Thats a really good question. Youre a good questioner. As your attorney, you dont have to answer that. Yeah, im going to take a pass on that one. Going to take a pass on it. You are . Thank you for the assist there. Why is rudy so messy . He works for a really messy client. I think what Rudy Giuliani is trying to do is get in front of the American People with evidence he knows thats bad thats going to come out in ways. He executes in a very bad way and says things that are not true on national tv, ratchet that back, and his client undercuts him. He has the right idea. Are we all falling for his trap . Thats what hes doing, throwing sand. Hes throwing up as much confusion, were all talking about that rather than, you know, the important issues. Well, i mean, hes really framing the midterm, the key theme of this midterm is going to be its going to be trumps interests, legal and financial, versus americas, and Rudy Giuliani and donald trump are saying choose my interests and not americas. Congressman, i want to play a bit of a fact check weve put together that shows some of the people who have an oath to the constitution who serve our National Security in their own way, somewhat measured and not enough according to what you and others have called for, in their own way putting out a flag that donald trump is hiding what happened in the putin meeting, which is suspicious, that he is wrong about denying russian attacks and saying theyre an ongoing hoax given the intelligence and the midterms. I want your view of that and whats to be done about that since youre in a coequal branch of government. Take a look . In held sin key, i had a great meeting with putin. We got along really well. By the way, thats a good way. Not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened in helsinki. Now, were being hindered by the russian hoax. Its a hoax, okay. We acknowledge the threat. It is real, it is continuing, and were doing everything we can. Ill tell you what, russias very unhappy that trump won. That i can tell you. Did you want President Trump to win. Yes, i did. Yes, i did. Of course the final answer from putin. Those are a lot of facts that completely undercut the president s claims. I served on active duty, i never thought i would see the american Commander In Chief go onto foreign soil and throw america under the bus the way he did. Not only did you have americans react, you had his own Administration Officials react. And you had dan coats, that same day, issue a Press Release that he didnt clear with the white house basically saying, yeah, the russians hacked us in 2016 and theyre going to do this again. You see his own administration pushing back against the president. Thats good for what i believe is the america that i know, which is adhering to a law and making sure we stick with the facts. You put it starkly and mention your own service. To some degree is this a sort of Reverse Iraq War situation . Where you had a political white house putting pressure on the cia to say the threat from abroad may have been worse than it was to get what they want . Here as you just referred to, you have the people in intelligence saying theres a real threat, whether or not what we do about it, go to war or a cyberwar, but a very real threat thats been documented by all these Intelligence Agencies and the mueller indictments, and its oddly the president and the white house putting pressure on them to pretend there isnt a problem, isnt a threat. Thats a very good point. But i actually think really it is only donald trump that thinks there is no threat. Everybody else around him thinks that hes talking crazy talk. Which is why you have his own administrative officials to hold a Press Conference this week telling the American People, yes, theres a russian threat. Were trying to take care of it. Our framers were smart, they allowed us to have 50 states, republican or democratic secretary of state, you dont want your elections hacked. We have people working on this issue. You make an important point. Federalism, how elections are run in this country. Pros and cons to that. With regard to Election Security its not all run out of the white house. This is one of those days, going to the midterms, that is one silver lining. Congressman lieu, stephanie miller, chai komanduri, thanks to all of you. Coming up, an interview with the man at the heart of democratic presidencies and campaigns for two decades, john podesta is here, im asking him about the Supreme Court and the midterms. Signs of a new civil war inside the gop, donald trump against the richest donors around. Sam nunberg is back. And a Pulitzer Prize winning Journalist Talks to us. Eddie griffin joins us tonight as well. Hi how was your day . It was good. It was long. Lets fix it. 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Thats why Xfinity Mobile can be included with xfinity internet. Which could save you hunreds of dollars a year. Plus get 150 when you bring in your own phone. Its a new kind of network designed to save you money. Click, call or visit a store today. Im thrilled to be joined by a very special guest making his debut on the beat tonight, john podesta is one of the most experienced people in democratic administrations, ran a white house as Chief Of Staff, advised president obama and of course chaired the Hillary Clinton campaign. In fact, that harsh 2016 campaign made Household Names of both nominees chairs, trumps former chair on trial. While podesta remains a victim in the related investigation into the russian hacking. That new association, though, only comes after many years where podesta was widely known in politics for being say center of every major battle. I am honored to name him today as the next white house Chief Of Staff. Working here means a great deal to me. To deal with the possible Impeachment Hearings in congress, the white house has put together a new Crisis Team Led by deputy Chief Of Staff john podesta. Ive also asked my counselor, john podesta, to lead a comprehensive review of big data and privacy. My friend john podesta ran my transition. John podesta has just walked in the room. Were still counting votes, and every vote should count. Today, podesta is part of a democratic vote counting operation for trumps Supreme Court pick, insisting his records from the white house are a potential pandoras box. The hearing could come in september. Democrats say its past time to go on offense. First, let me welcome you, john, and say, you know, you look at the old footage, youre one of those people that looked older when you were young, and now you look a little young that youre older. I dont know how you did it. Its a fountain of youth, ari, and its good to be with you. By the way, given that introduction, i have to say, id rather be in this seat than Paul Manaforts seat right now. Thats true for most people. Its a testament to what everyone knows was an unusually harsh foreign attacked wild 2016 campaign. And you and him are in very different situations. I want to get to so many things including your view of the Mueller Probe where you figure into it. I want to begin with something youve been leading on and what democrats say is so important to the future of the nation and gets wiped away by trump drama. You say we dont know enough about Brett Kavanaugh. Walk us through why that matters and what democrats should do about it. Look, ari, he served in the white house as Staff Secretary, the first position i served in for president clinton. Todd stern, who succeeded me in that job, and i wrote an oped piece in the Washington Post this week, noting that the republicans are really trying to cover up his record there. They dont want to go to the archives, look what advice he gave President Bush, calling him a traffic cop, a paper pusher, saying he didnt create his own documents. Thats nonsense. The role of Staff Secretary is not wellknown, but its a very important policymaking job. He was promoted from Senior Associate white House Counsel into that job. He carried the very top title, Assistant To The President in the white house. He was clearly a key policy adviser, at a time that President Bush was making important decisions around restricting abortion rights, trying to push for constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage. He was there, being the last stop, really, on a series of Signing Statements that were very controversial, including on a bill that banned torture. He said that he was not involved in the legal advice that the administration had, the socalled bybee memo, but we cant know that unless we see those documents. As carl rove noted, everything that had to do with policy passed through his hands. It was very common to write cover memos to express your own views. And its time, i think, that the democrats demand to see those records as republicans demanded to see kagans records when she served in the Clinton White house. That was appropriate then and its appropriate now. Yeah. And you mention at least three important issues there. Ill tick them off, torture, abortion and gay marriage. Starting with torture and the bybee memo and the legal shi cannery that went on, your view that he could have been a part of supporting that, and if he would support torture, what else would he support under trump . Well, it is clear that trump signed legislation that banned torture. That was bipartisan legislation, but said in the Signing Statement that if he believed that legislation was unconstitutional, he wouldnt follow it. And mr. Kavanaugh had the last stop on that Signing Statement, what his constitutional views were, that ought to be there. In that role youre saying your concern is he was the last legal line and he cracked the door open to more potential torture in the way he worked in the white house . Is that what youre saying . Unless you see those documents, you dont know the answer to that question. Got it. Thats why its so important to be able to access those documents. We do know, though, ari, that hes a he is a very strong proponent of strong executive power, and hes written and spoken extensively about both his experiences investigating a sitting president , that was president clinton, and then subs subsequently his Change Of Heart about that and the notion that no sitting president should be forced to answer subpoenas. Hes gone so far as to suggest that even the unanimous decision, u. S. V. Nixon was wrongly decided. And so we know that after pursuing president clinton during the starr investigation. He had a Change Of Heart once he went to work for President Bush and subsequently. So i think those are let me ask you, is that the core, then, of where democrats are going with this, not that he is a traditional republican appointee that may do things that shock many people, most Women In America would be against overturning roe, but not so much only that, you and the democrats are basically saying this person was picked by trump to protect trump, that he is part of a softer type of obstruction . Are you prepared to go that far . I think we have to you know, i think we have to examine his record and look at the context. President trump and mr. Giuliani have said hes going to decide whether to force a subpoena for mr. Mueller or whether hes going to voluntarily testify. Thats a decision that could easily go to the Supreme Court. Mr. Kavanaugh expressed his views already on that Subject Matter and saying that the president shouldnt be forced to answer subpoenas. And so, you know, you never know whats in Donald Trumps mind. But you have to know that he knew that kavanaugh was someone who wanted to protect the president in a context he finds himself in. And think of the constitutional crisis wed be in if he was the deciding vote in a constitutional crisis where mr. Mueller actually issued a subpoena and the white house and donald trump refused to comply with it. I think it is a context for this nomination. Im not casting aspersions on the integrity of mr. Kavanaugh. He has well expressed views here. The democrats need to examine what he intends to do if, you know, faced with that choice. Right. I understand how precisely measured youre being while raising the fact that this is not a drill, were dealing with a president who seems to delight in breaking things. And the question of Whether Mueller can put him in the Grand Jury Box if he wont do the interview, unlike the clinton example where it was negotiated out, may go all the way to the Supreme Court. Youre saying something that our viewers know is a very real possibility in the near term. Speaking of the Mueller Probe, i want to get to that, play for you donald trump who did promise to come out with all of this dirt on your side, and as with all things in politics, rough and dirty is fine. Illegal or foreign is not. Look at that moment. And then well ask you about it. Okay. I am going to give a major speech on probably monday of next week. And were going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the clintons. I think youre going to find it very informative, and very, very interesting. That was hours after donald trump jr. Confirmed the trump tower meeting. The president s former lawyer Michael Cohen now says donald trump knew about it. Can you shed any light on that based on what you experienced then being on the other side of it and what youve learned pursuant to the probe . Because witnesses and victims are free to talk in public. Do you think there is reason to credibly believe that donald trump was in on that from the beginning . And if so, is that an election conspiracy . Well, mr. Trump says he wasnt, but he has no credibility because he lies all the time. Mr. Cohen says he knew about this meeting. Clearly the meeting was set up with the promise of delivering dirt from the russians on Secretary Clinton. Thats they encouraged it. They suggested the timing of it. Mr. Trump now says he didnt know about it. I dont you know, i think he has very limited credibility. The one thing we do know that as a result of the most recent mueller indictments of the russian actors who hacked the dnc, hacked my personal email account, hack other individuals in the clinton campaign, was they got very active after mr. Trump stood on the stage and said, please, you know, after they were accused and really known to be hacking the dnc, mr. Trump stood on the stage and said please hack Secretary Clintons emails. People were aghast by that and suggested that that was, in fact, treasonous at the time. Now we know that the russians were listening to him. They acted that night. They increased their activity that very night. And so on that point, is sir, when you were inside that campaign, did you think that as rhetoric, or think hes asking other people to commit crimes against us, what do we do about it . It was the latter. We kept trying to call out, and Secretary Clinton very early in the process during the really during the primaries suggested that mr. Trump had definitely unusual views about the u. S. russian bilateral relationship and had adopted policies that were more in keeping with president putins view than the bipartisan view here. But as time went on we kept calling attention to the press. I think the press covered it to some extent, but didnt take it very seriously. We now know this was a serious incursion filled with criminal activity against our democracy. And on that, im over time. But you make one more you saw mr. Trump last night still call it a hoax. One more point, brief piece on this, we dont want to exempt ourselves from the issues, the way that the press covered it then doesnt look good in the benefit of hindsight. Was that largely because people didnt get the magnitude of what russia was doing or because there was a false sense that trump was going to lose anyway and a kind of antipathy towards clinton and that biased it . Quite frankly, little bit of both, its a complicated story, a harder story to tell, but it was a story that, in my view, was as important as the watergate burglary. This was an incursion, it was a criminal as i said, criminal activities. I was the victim of one of those crimes and the press sort of thought it was an interesting political story. But didnt take it with the seriousness that certainly postelection, and now that we know what we know from the Intelligence Community sources, was, you know, a much more serious attack on our democracy. And, you know, look, thats thats spilt milk. Right now whats important is to get all the facts out, to protect the mueller investigation, to make sure that, you know, i dont know what hes going to do ultimately with mr. Trump or some of his associates. But hes clearly gotten guilty pleas from his National Security adviser, from his Deputy Campaign manager, from senior officials in his campaign. We know that they had more than 80 meetings with russian sources that excuse me, they had more than 80 contacts with russian sources, more than 20 meetings with russian actors. So i leave it up to mr. Mueller. But i think that hes conducted this professionally, quietly, and well see where it lands. John podesta, you seem to know a lot because youve done a lot. I appreciate you coming on the beat. I hope youll come back. Thanks, ari. Be happy to. Up ahead, sam nunberg is here live to talk about a Big New Fight Over Money and politics and trump. And thats when were back in just 30 seconds. On earth uhp. I didnt believe it. Again. Ooh, baby, do you know what thats worth . I want to believe it. [ claps hands ] ooh im not hearing the confidence. Okay, hold the name your price tool. Power of options based on your budget and well make heaven a place on earth yeah oh, my angels ooh, heaven is a place on earth [ sobs quietly ] the other top story tonight is one you may not have heard as much about, but boy does it matter. An unusual battle within conservative politics. The Koch Brothers have spent half A Billion Dollars since 2012, one of their aides clapping back at trumps divisiveness and lack of leadership, its not just talk, the kochs breaking to boost with heidi camp in north dakota. A new video. Were seeing a rise in protectionism. Theyre doing whatever they can to close themselves off from the new. This is a natural tendency, but its a destructive one. Everything is personal with trump so he took this critique, which is basically about policy and his actual governance as some kind of breach of friendship and now hes calling them a joke. This feud started back during the campaign. I was surprised because i thought i was friends with the Koch Brothers, i thought i was their friend. The reason they want to not have me get elected is that i know the game better than any of them know it. Is it possible another clinton could be better than another republican next time around . Its possible, its possible. Its possible. Not something trump ever wanted to hear. On the left, democrats have long talked about the Corosive Influence of money in politics. The kochs have been the astro turf for their own economic goals. The tea party was essentially funded by the billionaire Koch Brothers family. What you see is the slow erosion of american democracy. These people are doing things, the Koch Brothers, they dont believe in democracy. Theyre a danger to america. Im joined by the man you just heard, former vermont governor and dnc chair howard dean and sam nunberg, a Senior Adviser to steve bannon, critical of the kochs. Howard, youve been on this for a while. How do you view whats happening now, including that rare sliver where you and the kochs might overlap, because you also have supporting democrat senator hydecamps reelection. I dont pay a lot of attention to the kochs. I really truly believe they do not care about democracy, nor do i believe the five Supreme Court justices who undermined Citizens United care about democracy. Our politics are corrupted by big money. I dont Pay Attention to what theyre doing other than watch out because they do a lot of things that are not too honest. Im certainly not going to take sides. I think Heidi Hydecamp has been a fantastic senator. I have no idea why the kochs are supporting her. Well, sir, youve paid enough attention to them to call them out. Theyre spending hundreds of millions. I take your point theyre in the background. Isnt part of the critique this is a problem in the background, and now its interesting that theyre trying to claim theres some third way or third lane in Trump Conservatism . Theres nothing conservative about the kochs. What they do is whats good for the kochs, period, end of discussion. Theres not much i can do to fight somebody who spends 80 ga zillion dollars on politics, except to publicly say they should be discredited, should not be taken seriously, have no fundamental interest in the future of our country swept as it applies to their wallets. Sam . Well, i agree with everything governor dean said, basically. If you look at this, the kochs are coming out against this president because they dont like his trade policies. That is the sole reason. And to go with exactly what governor dean said, saying that the kochs only care about their bottom line and their pocket, can you ask i cant wonder what else they could have gotten from this president. They got a tax cut, which i can assure you, raised my taxes. Theyve gotten all these regulations cut. And because some of the profits go, because the president is trying to reset the trade balance, whether or not they agree with it or not which is why he was elected, they decide to come out and say we do not support this president , were not going to support republicans in this midterm and visavis this midterm will control whether or not this president will be impeached. Its Subpoena Power. No one knows what the demes will do with Subpoena Power. Its going to control the house and control Subpoena Power and oversight. This white house will be greatly affected. The kochs will certainly not have the type of white house that would be able to function properly if they carried about libertarian values. With that said, this really shows what people like steve bannon and others and trump was arguing. I can tell you this is what we talked about with trump, how the Koch Brothers won, were going to go against him, and number two, the base of the Democrat Party on the other side does not like this big money. The kochs are whining because they dont like the president s trade policies. Let me go to you, sam, and then howard, there does seem to be overlap of agreement, and a lot of people would not expect that from both of you. What youre both getting at this idea, we showed the videos, and theyre welcome to come on the beat at any time, their argument is that they are ideological on the right and thats why they do things. Viewers have heard governor dean and now you, sam, say thats not true. They are just a corporate entity that is just doing whats good for their bottom line. But that Doesnt Sound Good in politics. So theyve built a foe or fake conservatism around that. A veritable candy shell when the real action is in the in the Caramel Center where all the money is being made. I know, sam, that thats the kind of analogy you and i can relate to because i know you like that green room candy i do. Is that right . Speak to that. When you showed their ad, their ad was concerned with one issue, the issue was protectionism. So when the president is in a trade war right now, and he is in a trade war, particularly with china, if you look at the koch supply line on energy, they can get hit on both sides, visavis the tariffs that china puts on and the tariffs the president is putting on chinese imports. It goes to big money and politics. What i would say is what have the kochs not gotten policywise from this president they could argue about . Theyre going to pretend as if this is ideological. Theyre basically acting like gluttonous pigs. Howard . You know, i think trump is wrong about protectionism. Its a mistake. Its going to catch up with us, its going to eventually undo a great economic expansion weve had since 2009. So, you know, the merits of the argument may be with the kochs. The problem is, the kochs have no respect among people who think about the future of america at all. Theyve tried to buy their way in to respectability by know nating huge amounts of money to various causes, some of which are good. I happen to like the Metropolitan Museum Of Art in new york. They get a ton of money from the Koch Brothers. Best thing, ignore the Koch Brothers, dont Pay Attention to what their motives are, do Pay Attention to the damage theyre doing to the United States of america. We truly need one of the reasons i think Brett Kavanaugh is a terrible idea for justice is we have got to undo Citizens United. The only way to do that is the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh will vote in the wrong way on that issue. Ari im almost out of time. I wanted to get your reaction to your former mentor roger stone speaking out tonight. And one of his associates going into the mueller Grand Jury Box. Do you think that rogers playing this right . Do you think he faces any vulnerability as a potential target here . Well, look, as ive said, roger is a critical piece for muellers narrative. This is my view to set up, lets say, the watergate narrative where you have all these associates making it look as if this breakin was involved or connected to the president. Theyre going into Rogers Personal finances. So when i think when roger is indicted, unfortunately i dont support it, youll have some you expect him to be indicted. Yes, i do, and youre going to have some broad charge that he was part of a conspiracy to defraud america, then backed up with a bunch of financial charges. And this would not have happened but for this special counsel. I lets see what happens. With that said, i hope that Andrew Miller continues to fight the decision he got all the way up to the Supreme Court because its a very important decision about whether or not the special counsels office violates the appointments clause. I believe it does. Sam nunberg and howard dean, a rare point of agreement. Up ahead, a couple things, one, the u. N. Condemning Donald Trumps approach to the free press. Comedy legend Eddie Griffin is here with fallback friday along with joe mande. And whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of My Favorite Things so i used crest. Crest 3d white removes. 95 of Surface Stains in just 3 days. For a whiter smile. That will win them over. Crest. Healthy, beautiful smiles for life. They wont hike your ratest foover one mistake. See, Liberty Mutual doesnt hold grudges. For drivers with Accident Forgiveness Liberty Mutual wont raise their rates because of their first accident. 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Let me ask you this oh, they came off. Who in your view needs to fall back this week, sir . In my view, i think we need to have ea sports and john maddens game fall back. I dont know how you try to erase one of the best Football Quarterbacks of the 90s and 2000s from history. How you going to take his name out of a rap song thats for a video game because you dont like his protest . So this is basically the game had him in there for a big sean lyric, everyone knows what kaepernick has said and done and people can debate it, but these folks making the game just want to disappear him. If they dont like you, americas had a history of erasing you from history. If youre not down with the program theyre trying to program into the Cerebellum Cortex of the public, here comes the eraser with the number 2 pence ill, and you never existed. Its a good one, joe, i dont know if youre going to have as good an idea. Who needs to fall back . I think we need to have q anonfall back. Go on. Its a conspiracy cult that is gaining steam within trump maga world. I guess what it is, theyre convinced that there is a Top Secret Agent with Security Clearance thats leaving these what they call crumbs on racist message boards. And exposing the truth about whos Keeping Trump from implementing policies they want. Do you think and i hate to ask this, but it comes up so much. Are they in on it in trolling everyone . Theres all those weird reddit groups that want to make jokes out of everything, or is it a true bona fide conspiracy . To believe it, you have to believe in deep state. But q is a member of the deep state within the deep state. Republican inception. Youre in charge, youre in control. Yeah. Well, i mean, i dont want to break news on your show, but ill do it right now. Do it. I am q. Youre q . I am q. And q anon is my rap name. The posts, the crumbs were us testing out lyrics, and people ran with it in a completely different way. Its gotten out of hand. Im stopping it right now. I think q is actually sunny delite, better known as our president. The orange man who likes to tweet is q, and sending out his own little crumbs. Theres a couple qs. So sunny d, i think imitation orange juice. Thats the name i gave him, he no longer is in the white house. He was saying russell crow should play him in a movie if russell crow lost weight. Everything about that is not okay. How dare he . How dare he . I have a fallback real quick, there was a zoo that couldnt afford zebras. Well put this up on the screen so they started Painting Donkeys to look like zebras. While i understand how you could come up with that idea, im telling that zoo to fall back and im awarding them the first donkey of the day the beat. We wanted to start with conspiracy theories, eddie and joe, thank you for a unique segment on television. Joes upcoming tour, we live in hell. We live in hell, but that works too. Up ahead, the u. N. Has a word for trump when were back. 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