The days biggest political and news stories, with interviews and reporting from around the nation. Unless they comply with equally bizarre set of convictions. I feel torn, playing around the margins of how ludicrous this is and part of me want to probe the implications of the investigation. Sean hannity is a person who shared a lawyer with the president , michael cohen, that he hid from the public who is now under Serious Investigation and strain who just last night the if hes finished dealing with the privileged aspects of all of the materials they raided on him including seized Tape Recordings of the president. Whats it say about not only sean hannity who can do whatever he does in the media who says hes not a journalist and Doesnt Follow rules thats freed freedom, whats it say about the president and the two lawyers taking the place of sean hannity substituting for him while continuing their public advocacy on behalf of their client, the president. What it says very seriously
is they are making a mockery of the judicial system, of the rule of law, of our justice system, and ironically, its a former United States attorney, Rudy Guiliani who was in charge of a major office in the Department Of Justice who is the one doing it. It also says that there are these legally insidious connections between hannity and cohen and lawyers that i think will at the end of the day do none of them any good. Hal reign we often draw on your wisdconsin wisdom and expe former person in charge of the New York Times and all of the battles in government and legal matters, youve seen a lot. Have you seen anything like that . And in a period of declining norms and expectations is it still a night to address the kind of standards that seem to
be failing at the white house . Ive never seen anything like this. Weve never had a moment like this in our country. And you put your finger on something very important that this temptation to enjoy the comedy. But the country is trembling on the brink of tragedy. As the senator pointed out its this assault on the, not just on the opponents in this legal case but this assault on the judiciary and the Entire Constitutional Under Pinnings of our legal system from someone like Rudy Guiliani, you know, i must say, the sound byte you showed, ari, i had a hard time distinguishing whether the Hannity Caller or the two lawyers of the president were the kookier party. We were caution about using the word unprecedented. Theres no precedent for this kind of assault on the judiciary, the legal system, directed from the white house. One wants not to get too extreme in language but right now we saw the show poll today in the times. 35 of the lesser educated people in this country are in charge and their agent and his mouth pieces are conducting a war on our legal system. I think coming to us from your harvard expertise, education is often aligned in american politics, not evan has financial means or where with all to be highly educated but a specific education about how things should work and three branches, the president , thats something we try to get from our
government leaders not thinking of them as demeaning it. With that if mind listen to Rudy Guiliani arguing that effectively the president shouldnt have to tell his side of the story under oath because of the Conspiracy Theory that everyone will automatically believe james comey not him. Take a listen leah . So, i think, you know, theres the line between trying to be a good lawyer for your client and trying to defend your client and being a flat out propagandaist, i think this is one of the things thats so dangerous about the moment were in. Were seeing the transformation of norms, of rules, of ethics,
of morals but also of fact. You know, its one thing again to defend your client, its another thing to go on Sean Hannitys radio show and host it and essentially give into Conspiracy Theories for three hours, including indicting a former sitting president. You know, i think one of the things that we have to talk about really here is the power too of media and propaganda. So right now what trumps lawyers are essentially do is running a counter pr or counter Propaganda Campaign and using all of these Media Networks in order to advance their position. Theyve been very successful in the past both in terms of exposure but also in terms of reaching, right, people, voters, people from across the country. This is something we really have to watch out for and be concerned about. Senator, i think thats the only place where you dont want to see them being misleading and
false. Theres consequences for that in court. When it comes to down to whether the senate is ever actively going to adjudicate any of this it will be ultimately a battle for public opinion. Youre an answer to your constituents so in that respect if may be theyre shortterm pessimistic about what the Robert Mueller probe will uncover and long term optimistic to get a lot of the country on their side, or confused or defining collusion down. And Rudy Guiliani is clearly going in that direction, not just on the radio hes freelancing he wrote this on the internet today now, some of that is false. We have to note theres not been anything about wire taps being found illegal. You can debate whether fbi investigations are baseless or not. But when Rudy Guiliani is the president s lawyer and actively calls on Jeff Sessions to be involved in something hes recused himself on because of the d. O. J. He seems to be in conflict between what hes allowed to do convincing the public of something and what youre not allowed to do go against the d. O. J. Concessions because sessions was too close to the campaign. The recusal was correct, the Attorney General of the United States had no choice but to recuse himself. So youre absolutely right Rudy Guiliani is asking Jeff Sessions to do something clearly improper and doing more which is to seek to discredit the entire investigation. Thats where ive been so appalled and astonished by many of my colleagues in the United States congress who have joined in this effort to demean and disrespect, not only the rule of law in general but also Robert Mueller and this investigation. I will tell you at the end of this era when the history is
written, i think the heroes are going to he about the independent judiciary and our free press. Hal reign is a great example of that kind of conscious in our media over many, many years. Because they have in effect exposed this effort to discredit a lawful investigation. Thank you, senator. And i must say i was sharing earlier, i think the New York Times and the Washington Post and the responsible Capital Networks have done a really remarkable job of adjusting to kind of unimaginable daily chaos. You spoke of norms earlier, i think we, Theenti Entities We W talking about, are the guardians of the norms now. Its Heart Breaking to me that the Republican Party who founding to destroy slavery was a land mark in the history of freedom is solid as this man is waging war on our legal system. And i just, my heart almost broke reading the times profile of paul ryan this week where he seems oblvious to the realities of what is going on around him. Let me go to leah on that maybe to tie it together. Because the Political Science is the problem. We have so many people in one party looking at selfpreservation over if looking over any of the standard norms. Its polarization. Its partisanship and its a fact one party has completely thrown out the window any serks
mblance Point Line In The Sand to find Breaking Point of a president once hated. We also know many of them have been implicated in many things that came out and also too use this president as a vehicle in the same way hes using them as a vehicle. So a lot of this is about power. Opposed to party. Opposed to concern for the country. One of the things that Tony Morrison said that racism, inequality, all these things serve as a distraction. Thats what it is, a distraction, because the president refuses to take accountability for the kinds of things hes been doing. Were not focussing on the things we should be focussing on. I appreciate that, something to meditate on, an important point. Thank you. Hal will stick around, you know how to works here. We have a lot more coming up. Roger stone first associate by mueller camp to be in contempt in Court Today Of And Trump attacks nfl players. Will have all that and plus yes we will still get to fall back bravo star is here. Will hang out. Youre watching The Beat With Ari Melber on msnbc. Dent no g deal, right . Wrong. Your Insurance Company is gonna raise your rate after the other car got a scratch so small you coulda fixed it with a pen. Maybe you should take that pen and use it to sign up with a different Insurance Company. For drivers with Accident ForgivenessLiberty Mutual wont raise their rates because of their first accident. Liberty mutual insurance. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty back pain cant win. Now introducing aleve back and muscle pain. Only aleve targets tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. Aleve back muscle. All day strong. All day long. But prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Before you can achieve a higher standard of craftsmanship, you need a higher standard of craftsman. See for yourself at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your Allergy Pills . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. At ally, we offer lowcost trades and highyield savings. But if thats not enough, we offer innovative investing tools to prepare you for the future. Looks like you hooked it. And if thats not enough, well help your kid prepare for the future. Dont hook it kid. And if thats still not enough, well help your kids kid prepare for the future. Looks like he hooked it. Well do anything. Takes after his grandad. Seriously anything, to help you invest for the future. Ally. Do it right. Today marks the end of the second week of Paul Manafort trial new signs of Robert Mueller investigation that is sirgling Trump Advisor Roger stone. We can report a witness he wants to talk with is held in contempt. Thats roger stone. Doesnt mean mueller did anything wrong yet. His attorney want to escalate this legal fight on purpose to get a wider hearing on the probes legitimacy. That is a fair game strategy. Well be watching if it gets to the course. Meanwhile another associate of
roger stone testified in the same grand jury. She was involved in a scandal that took down a new york governor. Davis provided escorts to celebs to highpowered patriots the most infamous disgraced former new york governor Elliott Spitzer client number nine, who signed off after Spending Thousands a Night On Davis girls. We dont know what mueller wants to learn from davis but appears people around roger stone are going around the grand jury box. In the Paul Manafort trial the judge stopped the trial for hours without explanation, thats unusual and warning jurors to keep an open mind and not to discuss this case while its open with anyone. Joined now by reporter who is all over this story and former federal prosecutor. Anna, lets start with what we know and dont know, which is voluminous. What do we know about the madame and the type of people headed into the grand jury. Well, she is a very, very close friend of roger stone. Theyve worked together since 2010 but hes also godfather to her son. He could have told her any number of things and it does look like this probe is wideranging. Sam on earlier today said when he went in and spoke to prosecutors they were asking him every Single Person roger stone ever worked with. So that is very broad. And Kristen Davis was in there for hours today. She did handle his schedule and set up meetings and did secretarial work, usually when she needed money roger stone would have her as an assistant
but she said Andrew Miller handled stones schedule several months before the election, the crucial time when wicky leeks was releasing the dnc emails. The possible inference is mueller wants to put in front of the grand jury people who can say where roger was and when he was telling the truth about where he was. Exactly right. And she met with a prosecutor last week and seemed to be a real rush to get her in front of the grand jury, get her on the record just a week later many theyre moving in. Seth what does it imply. It implies mr. Stone should get ready for an orange jumpsuit. You have multiple people being pulled in the one that concerns
me the most his driver. If the feds start pulling in your driver or plumber, you got to be really, really concerned about where you sit. The other piece it to this is timing. Was mentioning it seemed like an urgent thing to get this material in front of the grand jury. Could be for reasons unrelated. Anythings possible. Or could be a desire to put material on record for potential indictment. Add that to the fact andy described how federal agents were sent to new york to talk to him and we broke the story Last Night Advancing that he was getting a subpoena. That seems to fit in because hes linked to stone. Take a look at on the beat this week. Set up a conversation with somebody from the mueller team and they asked my lawyer if i would like to go down an dodd a voluntary interview and he said
no. Theres couple reasons he came to me and i kept this under my hat for at least six weeks, i didnt want to instigate ate to to special prosecutor. But we can confirm hes now subpoenaed with date in september. Weve fact checked that. Does that tell you anything about stone going to grand jury or not necessarily. I think they want all of these witnessed Into Grand Jury so they have entire orb of evidence and bring whatever action they will against mr. Stone who could be the bag man for this campaign. If it is true they did in fact want that dirt during that Trump Tower Meeting and they claim nothing came out of that, but remember, three days after that meeting it went public that
emails related to clinton would be released. If mr. Stone facilitated that would be a coconspirator, aider and bettor and just as responsible as the principles. We are a long way from conviction, is it possible theyre being diligent prosecutors if they find thee entire story checks ot they dont have anything on stone. Its looking unlikely but it is possible given the public statements that he made at the time he was in touch with wikileaks. The atlantic published twitter conversation between roger stone and wikileaks twitter feeds in october. It was clear they had conversations in the past. Theres a lot there for them to look at. Our viewers know you to be a fair reporter and the fact faced
with the on the other hand question, youre answer is well that hand is getting smaller and smaller, so to speak, its interesting. To bring in five former employees, thats a lot of people. Its telling. Yeah its interesting legally. Thank you both. Up next we will turn to an important discussion on race in america. As the White Nationalist anniversary in charlottesville comes up. Thats in just 30 seconds. People who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams theyre handing us more than mail theyre handing us their business and while we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. That your business is our business the United States postal service. Priority you
another important top story tonight, White Nationalist who marched on charlottesville, their alleys say theyre coming back to the white house this sunday to mark the year since that rally, which of course resulted in the killing of a protester. Today donald trump was back attacking nfl players for protesting Police Brutality during the National Anthem and one under five for controversial comments about what she views as quote demographic changes. Because in some parts of the country it does seem like the america we know and love doesnt exist any more. Massive demographic changes have been hoisted on the american people,