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What he released and didnt glen, bottom line, what does it release starting sunday night. Mean to you that there is a now as the future of aerodynamics. One. Legal expert, commentators and g third friday letter from the coming up, we dig deeper into the Mueller Report and what you attorney general going farther than he had . The public will be allowed to when its made real. So what it means to me, we see. I have some witnesses from our barrs approach including the can quibble with the attorney attorneys perts that attorneys memorable Mueller Panel back to when it comes to reducing the evsugar in your familys diet,m. Generals decision to use the talk about the end of the probe word summary in his first letter and what they think is in a report that their words and then in his second letter coke, dr pepper and pepsi hear you. Contributed to. Later obamas attorney general general. I think hes wrong. Saying id never tried to were working together to do just that. I think he is taking on to summarize anything, but lets set the semantics aside. Squaring off the Vice President bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar himself a role that has not of the United States responding what he did was he tried to set to holders interview on this or no sugar at all. Typically been used by people in very show. Smaller portion sizes, the position that bob barr has you might want to see that. Out some of bob muellers had. It has too much of the odor conclusions, but he went so far were going to show it to you. Clear calorie labels and reminders to think balance. If its friday, its just blaze beyond that because what he did is he put his thumb on the scale and amen in a fall back friday because we know mom wants whats best. Of political expediency to help and he said you know what . For the ages. Im excited about it. More beverage choices, smaller portions, less sugar. The man who appointed him, bob mueller cannot exonerate the president trump. All that, coming up. We dont need you interpreting for us. Youre watching the beat on balanceus. Org president. He cant clear him from having it was condescending, it was msnbc. Arrogant, and it wasnt the committed obstruction of right thing to do. Justice. So let me go ahead and do that barr is basically rebutting whenever were about to get on a stage for a huge audience, some of that directly writing in myself. Im going to say there wasnt the new letter that he says he enough evidence to charge i always give my dad, like, a facetime kinda moment. Obstruction. Let me ask you for your did not summarize the mueller you see the crowd, you see the emotion. Analysis. The first letter previewed a you know, he has that experience for the first time with me, report adding, quote, i do not believe it would in the publics interest for me to attempt to second letter. So we knew that part. And thats really important to me. I created a rockstar. both laughing summarize the full report or the third letter arrives out of arre mel re it. Release it in a piecemeal the blue today. Ar re mel st iphyou, its not required by the special fashion. Counsel rules. That is exactly that critics say so this new letter on the right and get iphone 10r on us for someone else. Barr did including those side of the screen for viewers and get apple music on us, too. Infamous partial quotes, aka a looks like giving ground to the only on verizon. Peace meal review or release which also appeared in part to democrats and in its own but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient language acknowledges public originally discovered. Benefit his boss president criticism. The best thing you can about in jellyfish. Trump. In the new letter we have to in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown that is hes being transparent tell you barr refers to his own to improve shortterm memory. Earlier letter as a, quote, about that motivation or those thats where i feel normal. Facts. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. Summary of muellers principle the worst thing you could say as we reported from sunday night on learn more at retire your risk dot org. Conclusions. Is that hes now coughed up so to translate this, so you come hok. , babe. Understand clearly what were information like the nearly 400 talking about, attorney general page length that could have been barr admits to summarizing available from the start. Nasty nightime heartburn . Yeah. And you know what . Tonight. He is just claiming or its going to be strong to be try alkaseltzer pm gummies. The only fast, powerful heartburn relief, emphasizing that he summarized transparent and hes trying to muellers conclusions. Answer the criticism. Not that he summarized the whole its also good i think my plus melatonin so you can fall asleep quickly. Favorite part of that letter is Mueller Report. Oh, what a relief it is he said bob mueller himself, the bottom line, Donald Trumps new special counsel, will continue attorney general is on defense to be involved in the [ aevery box has a mission tonight. Hes ending the week explaining redactions. His speedy process with his that gives me comfort, because to protect everything inside from everything outside. Ive got to tell you, i dont first letter out last friday that said mueller was done and think bob mueller will stand for when whats inside matters, his second letter on sunday night with those four partial ultimately an incomplete or count on boxes. [ doorbell rings ] quotes. Misleading version of this paper and packaging. How life unfolds. That made a lot of waves all report to come out. Week. Then you have tonights letter where he appears to give ground i think he will want to make sure the American People and the ito take care of anyct messy situations. On releasing a redacted version congress get it all. And put irritation in its place. Of the report and testifying and confirming for the first time eaisha . And if i can get comfortable ever in his own words that keeping this tookus safe and protected. Muellers report is nearly 400 you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. Pages long. That is information which if you bob mueller did spend many preparation h. Get comfortable with it. Watched our coverage you would note sunday night we emphasized uh uh, i deliver the news around here. Months of his life so i would think he would speak out if it was not being fully represented. Sources say Liberty Mutual customizes your that barr confusingly refused to i was hoping you lead with the share that. Then you have this. Car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Barr saying he does not have four page letter because all i plans to submit the report to keep seeing is im dropping this over to you, logo. Four ladies and gentlemen letter the white house for a privilege and closing it with a kiss. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Review. We touched on that reference that wording could become critical later because plans can earlier this week. I had no idea why my mouth was constantly dry. It gave me bad breath. Change. So our minds are melted here. It was so embarrassing. Barr goes on in this brand new letter to go and say even bob m you know, great minds. Now i take new biotene dry mouth lozenges its always the great minds. Whenever im on the go, which is all the time. That wraps the beat for new biotene dry mouth lozenges. But yeah, its obvious that barr tonight. Was trying to tip the scales and freshen breath anytime, anywhere. I will be back monday 6 00easte really tell the American People what they should believe about this report and how they should launching a new series. Interpret it. New biotene dry mouth lozenges. The Big Drug Companies dont see they see us as profits. And that is inappropriate, you may know him for writing the unfair, and so i am thankful were paying the highest Prescription Drug prices that the democrats are holding rules of the special counsel or him to the fire to produce all in the world acting solicitor general under of it, because look, heres the so they can make billions . Obama orrer a lot of the other other piece of it. Things hes done. Americans shouldnt have to choose between he was a senior doj official as there are theres so many buying medication and buying food for our families. Kind of background pieces with well. Regards to the investigation we want to welcome his expertise that would give some insight as its time for someone to look out for us. To the scope and the nature of and specifically to the beat. What we are learning about where were going to ebe donald trump. Congress, stop the greed. Whether or not its directly cut drug prices now. Tackling issues in the weeks ahead. Related to russia isnt really the question moving forward. Im going to be hosting a panel so i think its important that we get access to that and that he drops it all. With the new yorkers jeffrey tuben and the views sonny howard, what a difference a hosten. Week makes. We are exactly a week out if it youre in or coming to new from it seems like a million years york, you can find out more ago. About it at the 92nd street y. Were literally a week and one hour out from the ending of the Mueller Probe and i want to put on the screen something very if youre in town, you can get basic thats very important. This isnt just this is moving day with the best inhome wifi experience more information at 92 y dot org. 73 words on the screen are all and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. And what else do you need know . We have from the Mueller Report. Tonight chris hayes has a very that hasnt changed in the week. And this is moving day with Reliable Service appointments important town hall with we have these 73 words out of in a two hour window so youre up and running in no time. Congresswoman alexandria what we now know to be nearly show me decorating shows. Ocasiocortez about the green 400 pages. New deal and much more. What do you think as a student this is staying connected with xfinity to make moving of washington and the keep it locked right here simple. Easy. Awesome. Including right now because interbranch relations about what stay connected with the best wifi experience and twohour hardball with Chris Matthews is up next. Barr is doing . Appointment windows. Click, call or visit a store today. Out with it. Since this is friday and were in the middle of march lets play hardball. Madness, let me use a basketball analogy. You know how one team thinks its ahead andoor and start tosl around to keep from getting fouled to top the c interpretat. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in because first of all, barr is washington. Saying that the president is not william barr says the report will be released two weeks from going to decide on any kind of now. Executive privilege claims. My plan, barr says, is to do in a letter to the house andsont that myself on his behalf. Judiciary committees barr writes okay. Thats number one. Number two, my interpretation of we are back. Were preparing the report for attorney general bill barr having mueller involved on a making news late today with this release, making the redactions required. Little different here. Letter addressing the release of adding the special counsel is muellers final report. Assisting us in this process. We are looking at, and i can muellers an institutionalist. Hes going to want to protect other prosecutions that are show it to you, a third letter going on. Im not sure hes necessarily thats giving more insight into how many pages muellers report going to be for totally putting will be, close to 400 as well as everything on the table. That remains to be seen. Barrs strategy. And im back timing this from two questions unanswered from the congressional hearings that sundays letter. What do you take from the are going to take place when barr and maybe mueller and other first the fagcts before we get people are going to be up there and members of congress are beyond that. We dont even know the number going to be questioning them of page. If barr told us mueller wrote about what happened here and why more of this report wasnt a report that was 50 pages or released. Okay . 200 or 500 that alone would be a and why so much was redacted great piece of context for these which is what i think is going to happen. Theyre going to blame each four. Are you suggesting the longer other. The report, the worse barr might barrs going to blame mueller. Mueller is going to blame barr. Look for having tried to pull trump is going to blame barr and this off by sunday night . Absolutely. Well get the answers first its going to be a stall toward the end of what the white house from his report in mid april and get the answers from barr thinks is the game here. Himself when he goes under oath go ahead, aisha. On may 1st. Im joined by daniel alonzo, a i was just going to add that i think its fair for the former federal prosecutor and American People to get whats appropriate to be moved around in the public, but i do believe District Attorney for manhattan where there is an open case against Paul Manafort. That we should make sure that thanks for being here. Congress has access to the full thanks for having me. Big question here. This letter, had it come out on file, because Congress Still has an investigation and a job to do friday or sunday, might have and i dont want to conflate and made bill barrs rushed two day confuse the two. Release of conclusions look there may be some information about an ongoing informativesti worse, not better, because everyone would have known that he reached those conclusions on that shouldnt be smacked all a 400 page report which no over the paper but that doesnt matter how talented a lawyer, Mean Congress shouldnt have access to it. You only read so fast . Lets take a look again at thats politics. What i summarized to use the i get it. I get why people want to word of the day from this letter. Barr says im aware of the media criticize him, but hes now sent a letter that says hes going to reports and statements which he says, quote, mischaracterize his do something which before today there had been no definitive original letter as a, quote, statement. Sure, it would have been great to have it earlier, but i think summary. We can put this up on the screen. Its good he sent this today. Then he says it was not and did not purport to be an exhaustive i think you have a fair point that the pledge he makes is a recounting, but a summary of its giant step forward for principle conclusions. Transparency, but is it not our jobs to try to understand when to the normal person in the and why hes releasing world waiting on a nearly 400 information . It would seem that he withheld page report, what are we to read the length of the report to make his review look more valid in those two days. Into barrs fixation, concern, i mean, at a certain point, 300 obsession with how hes been quoted or covered this week . I mean, that is kind of funny if pages 400, hundreds more with evidence. At a certain point, no human nothing else. Its such a minor point and being could reasonably reach it seems to suggest that maybe attorney general barr has had many conclusions in that 46 hour some thin skin. Time window. Let me pushback. You and i talked last week about how i thought the report would but this sort of semantic debate be very long. You were right. Thats not shocking. Over what the meaning of summary this is what lawyers do. Is, it just doesnt matter. We digest long reports and we the other thing if i can say boil them down. When barr put his thumb on the now, do i think that the scale and said you know what, attorney general was keeping his im going to short circuit this options open about maybe not releasing the report ultimately . And say that the evidence doesnt support an obstruction possibly. He certainly didnt make the charge, the way i see, that i pledge a week ago that he made see that as an opening today. Certainly today is very statement. Its not evidence. Significant. A week ago could well have been its just somebodys opinion. Keeping his options open. You know what we tell juries when were trying cases . We are where we are. Understood and appreciate the Opening Statements pushback. As a prosecutor, what do you think of when we put up on the disregard the opening statement. Screen so everyone understands a not to disregard, but theyre week later everyone is still not evidence. You know what is evidence . Working off just these 73 words the evidence. Thats why we need to see the from the Mueller Report . Mueller report. We need to reach our own what does that context tell us conclusions about the evidence, about what we dont know . Not attorney general barrs it certainly tells us we want opening statement. So that goes to my final to know a lot more. Im dying to see whats in the question t howard here moving actual report. Beyond the law and into the those 73 words are significant te debate as the attorney general says as a summary of the principle conclusions of the special counsel, but theyre going to be within his of course ethical and irrelevant in mid april. Legal obligations. Do you view this as a one way to have waged this situation where the pressure on debate would have been to say on barr has worked or has been friday mueller finished without irrelevant . I think probably it worked. Charging a conspiracy. And we kind of knew that was going to happen. Theres no chargeable this report was going to see the conspiracy. That is the biggest most light of day in some way, in some fashion given that important demolishment of the expectation that there may have regulation puts it on his been a chargeable conspiracy and shoulder to decide whats in the Everything Else in the report public interest. Former federal prosecutor with some context. Thanks for being here. Will wait on and fairly deal thanks for having me. Now were about to turn to with, communicate with congress, hear directly from two mueller go through a valid congress and witnesses on this news today and a whole lot more when were back turn it over. In just 30 seconds. He didnt do that. He felt the need or decided to go farther and say im going to give you my opinion on obstruction and if youve been following the news i dont think a president can easily obstruct justice and a whole bunch of other stuff. Why not in your view just focus on no chargeable conspiracy . Because i think bob barr is part of the team. I think thats clear. You showed the high stakes battles over the Mueller Report<\/a> and what you attorney general going farther than he had . The public will be allowed to when its made real. So what it means to me, we see. I have some witnesses from our barrs approach including the can quibble with the attorney attorneys perts that attorneys memorable Mueller Panel<\/a> back to when it comes to reducing the evsugar in your familys diet,m. Generals decision to use the talk about the end of the probe word summary in his first letter and what they think is in a report that their words and then in his second letter coke, dr pepper and pepsi hear you. Contributed to. Later obamas attorney general general. I think hes wrong. Saying id never tried to were working together to do just that. I think he is taking on to summarize anything, but lets set the semantics aside. Squaring off the Vice President<\/a> bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar himself a role that has not of the United States<\/a> responding what he did was he tried to set to holders interview on this or no sugar at all. Typically been used by people in very show. Smaller portion sizes, the position that bob barr has you might want to see that. Out some of bob muellers had. It has too much of the odor conclusions, but he went so far were going to show it to you. Clear calorie labels and reminders to think balance. If its friday, its just blaze beyond that because what he did is he put his thumb on the scale and amen in a fall back friday because we know mom wants whats best. Of political expediency to help and he said you know what . For the ages. Im excited about it. More beverage choices, smaller portions, less sugar. The man who appointed him, bob mueller cannot exonerate the president trump. All that, coming up. We dont need you interpreting for us. Youre watching the beat on balanceus. Org president. He cant clear him from having it was condescending, it was msnbc. Arrogant, and it wasnt the committed obstruction of right thing to do. Justice. So let me go ahead and do that barr is basically rebutting whenever were about to get on a stage for a huge audience, some of that directly writing in myself. Im going to say there wasnt the new letter that he says he enough evidence to charge i always give my dad, like, a facetime kinda moment. Obstruction. Let me ask you for your did not summarize the mueller you see the crowd, you see the emotion. Analysis. The first letter previewed a you know, he has that experience for the first time with me, report adding, quote, i do not believe it would in the publics interest for me to attempt to second letter. So we knew that part. And thats really important to me. I created a rockstar. both laughing summarize the full report or the third letter arrives out of arre mel re it. Release it in a piecemeal the blue today. Ar re mel st iphyou, its not required by the special fashion. Counsel rules. That is exactly that critics say so this new letter on the right and get iphone 10r on us for someone else. Barr did including those side of the screen for viewers and get apple music on us, too. Infamous partial quotes, aka a looks like giving ground to the only on verizon. Peace meal review or release which also appeared in part to democrats and in its own but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient language acknowledges public originally discovered. Benefit his boss president criticism. The best thing you can about in jellyfish. Trump. In the new letter we have to in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown that is hes being transparent tell you barr refers to his own to improve shortterm memory. Earlier letter as a, quote, about that motivation or those thats where i feel normal. Facts. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. Summary of muellers principle the worst thing you could say as we reported from sunday night on learn more at retire your risk dot org. Conclusions. Is that hes now coughed up so to translate this, so you come hok. , babe. Understand clearly what were information like the nearly 400 talking about, attorney general page length that could have been barr admits to summarizing available from the start. Nasty nightime heartburn . Yeah. And you know what . Tonight. He is just claiming or its going to be strong to be try alkaseltzer pm gummies. The only fast, powerful heartburn relief, emphasizing that he summarized transparent and hes trying to muellers conclusions. Answer the criticism. Not that he summarized the whole its also good i think my plus melatonin so you can fall asleep quickly. Favorite part of that letter is Mueller Report<\/a>. Oh, what a relief it is he said bob mueller himself, the bottom line, Donald Trumps<\/a> new special counsel, will continue attorney general is on defense to be involved in the [ aevery box has a mission tonight. Hes ending the week explaining redactions. His speedy process with his that gives me comfort, because to protect everything inside from everything outside. Ive got to tell you, i dont first letter out last friday that said mueller was done and think bob mueller will stand for when whats inside matters, his second letter on sunday night with those four partial ultimately an incomplete or count on boxes. [ doorbell rings ] quotes. Misleading version of this paper and packaging. How life unfolds. That made a lot of waves all report to come out. Week. Then you have tonights letter where he appears to give ground i think he will want to make sure the American People<\/a> and the ito take care of anyct messy situations. On releasing a redacted version congress get it all. And put irritation in its place. Of the report and testifying and confirming for the first time eaisha . And if i can get comfortable ever in his own words that keeping this tookus safe and protected. Muellers report is nearly 400 you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. Pages long. That is information which if you bob mueller did spend many preparation h. Get comfortable with it. Watched our coverage you would note sunday night we emphasized uh uh, i deliver the news around here. Months of his life so i would think he would speak out if it was not being fully represented. Sources say Liberty Mutual<\/a> customizes your that barr confusingly refused to i was hoping you lead with the share that. Then you have this. Car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Barr saying he does not have four page letter because all i plans to submit the report to keep seeing is im dropping this over to you, logo. Four ladies and gentlemen letter the white house for a privilege and closing it with a kiss. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Review. We touched on that reference that wording could become critical later because plans can earlier this week. I had no idea why my mouth was constantly dry. It gave me bad breath. Change. So our minds are melted here. It was so embarrassing. Barr goes on in this brand new letter to go and say even bob m you know, great minds. Now i take new biotene dry mouth lozenges its always the great minds. Whenever im on the go, which is all the time. That wraps the beat for new biotene dry mouth lozenges. But yeah, its obvious that barr tonight. Was trying to tip the scales and freshen breath anytime, anywhere. I will be back monday 6 00easte really tell the American People<\/a> what they should believe about this report and how they should launching a new series. Interpret it. New biotene dry mouth lozenges. The Big Drug Companies<\/a> dont see they see us as profits. And that is inappropriate, you may know him for writing the unfair, and so i am thankful were paying the highest Prescription Drug<\/a> prices that the democrats are holding rules of the special counsel or him to the fire to produce all in the world acting solicitor general under of it, because look, heres the so they can make billions . Obama orrer a lot of the other other piece of it. Things hes done. Americans shouldnt have to choose between he was a senior doj official as there are theres so many buying medication and buying food for our families. Kind of background pieces with well. Regards to the investigation we want to welcome his expertise that would give some insight as its time for someone to look out for us. To the scope and the nature of and specifically to the beat. What we are learning about where were going to ebe donald trump. Congress, stop the greed. Whether or not its directly cut drug prices now. Tackling issues in the weeks ahead. Related to russia isnt really the question moving forward. Im going to be hosting a panel so i think its important that we get access to that and that he drops it all. With the new yorkers jeffrey tuben and the views sonny howard, what a difference a hosten. Week makes. We are exactly a week out if it youre in or coming to new from it seems like a million years york, you can find out more ago. About it at the 92nd street y. Were literally a week and one hour out from the ending of the Mueller Probe<\/a> and i want to put on the screen something very if youre in town, you can get basic thats very important. This isnt just this is moving day with the best inhome wifi experience more information at 92 y dot org. 73 words on the screen are all and millions of wifi hotspots to help you stay connected. And what else do you need know . We have from the Mueller Report<\/a>. Tonight chris hayes has a very that hasnt changed in the week. And this is moving day with Reliable Service<\/a> appointments important town hall with we have these 73 words out of in a two hour window so youre up and running in no time. Congresswoman alexandria what we now know to be nearly show me decorating shows. Ocasiocortez about the green 400 pages. New deal and much more. What do you think as a student this is staying connected with xfinity to make moving of washington and the keep it locked right here simple. Easy. Awesome. Including right now because interbranch relations about what stay connected with the best wifi experience and twohour hardball with Chris Matthews<\/a> is up next. Barr is doing . Appointment windows. Click, call or visit a store today. Out with it. Since this is friday and were in the middle of march lets play hardball. Madness, let me use a basketball analogy. You know how one team thinks its ahead andoor and start tosl around to keep from getting fouled to top the c interpretat. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews<\/a> in because first of all, barr is washington. Saying that the president is not william barr says the report will be released two weeks from going to decide on any kind of now. Executive privilege claims. My plan, barr says, is to do in a letter to the house andsont that myself on his behalf. Judiciary committees barr writes okay. Thats number one. Number two, my interpretation of we are back. Were preparing the report for attorney general bill barr having mueller involved on a making news late today with this release, making the redactions required. Little different here. Letter addressing the release of adding the special counsel is muellers final report. Assisting us in this process. We are looking at, and i can muellers an institutionalist. Hes going to want to protect other prosecutions that are show it to you, a third letter going on. Im not sure hes necessarily thats giving more insight into how many pages muellers report going to be for totally putting will be, close to 400 as well as everything on the table. That remains to be seen. Barrs strategy. And im back timing this from two questions unanswered from the congressional hearings that sundays letter. What do you take from the are going to take place when barr and maybe mueller and other first the fagcts before we get people are going to be up there and members of congress are beyond that. We dont even know the number going to be questioning them of page. If barr told us mueller wrote about what happened here and why more of this report wasnt a report that was 50 pages or released. Okay . 200 or 500 that alone would be a and why so much was redacted great piece of context for these which is what i think is going to happen. Theyre going to blame each four. Are you suggesting the longer other. The report, the worse barr might barrs going to blame mueller. Mueller is going to blame barr. Look for having tried to pull trump is going to blame barr and this off by sunday night . Absolutely. Well get the answers first its going to be a stall toward the end of what the white house from his report in mid april and get the answers from barr thinks is the game here. Himself when he goes under oath go ahead, aisha. On may 1st. Im joined by daniel alonzo, a i was just going to add that i think its fair for the former federal prosecutor and American People<\/a> to get whats appropriate to be moved around in the public, but i do believe District Attorney<\/a> for manhattan where there is an open case against Paul Manafort<\/a>. That we should make sure that thanks for being here. Congress has access to the full thanks for having me. Big question here. This letter, had it come out on file, because Congress Still<\/a> has an investigation and a job to do friday or sunday, might have and i dont want to conflate and made bill barrs rushed two day confuse the two. Release of conclusions look there may be some information about an ongoing informativesti worse, not better, because everyone would have known that he reached those conclusions on that shouldnt be smacked all a 400 page report which no over the paper but that doesnt matter how talented a lawyer, Mean Congress<\/a> shouldnt have access to it. You only read so fast . Lets take a look again at thats politics. What i summarized to use the i get it. I get why people want to word of the day from this letter. Barr says im aware of the media criticize him, but hes now sent a letter that says hes going to reports and statements which he says, quote, mischaracterize his do something which before today there had been no definitive original letter as a, quote, statement. Sure, it would have been great to have it earlier, but i think summary. We can put this up on the screen. Its good he sent this today. Then he says it was not and did not purport to be an exhaustive i think you have a fair point that the pledge he makes is a recounting, but a summary of its giant step forward for principle conclusions. Transparency, but is it not our jobs to try to understand when to the normal person in the and why hes releasing world waiting on a nearly 400 information . It would seem that he withheld page report, what are we to read the length of the report to make his review look more valid in those two days. Into barrs fixation, concern, i mean, at a certain point, 300 obsession with how hes been quoted or covered this week . I mean, that is kind of funny if pages 400, hundreds more with evidence. At a certain point, no human nothing else. Its such a minor point and being could reasonably reach it seems to suggest that maybe attorney general barr has had many conclusions in that 46 hour some thin skin. Time window. Let me pushback. You and i talked last week about how i thought the report would but this sort of semantic debate be very long. You were right. Thats not shocking. Over what the meaning of summary this is what lawyers do. Is, it just doesnt matter. We digest long reports and we the other thing if i can say boil them down. When barr put his thumb on the now, do i think that the scale and said you know what, attorney general was keeping his im going to short circuit this options open about maybe not releasing the report ultimately . And say that the evidence doesnt support an obstruction possibly. He certainly didnt make the charge, the way i see, that i pledge a week ago that he made see that as an opening today. Certainly today is very statement. Its not evidence. Significant. A week ago could well have been its just somebodys opinion. Keeping his options open. You know what we tell juries when were trying cases . We are where we are. Understood and appreciate the Opening Statements<\/a> pushback. As a prosecutor, what do you think of when we put up on the disregard the opening statement. Screen so everyone understands a not to disregard, but theyre week later everyone is still not evidence. You know what is evidence . Working off just these 73 words the evidence. Thats why we need to see the from the Mueller Report<\/a> . Mueller report. We need to reach our own what does that context tell us conclusions about the evidence, about what we dont know . Not attorney general barrs it certainly tells us we want opening statement. So that goes to my final to know a lot more. Im dying to see whats in the question t howard here moving actual report. Beyond the law and into the those 73 words are significant te debate as the attorney general says as a summary of the principle conclusions of the special counsel, but theyre going to be within his of course ethical and irrelevant in mid april. Legal obligations. Do you view this as a one way to have waged this situation where the pressure on debate would have been to say on barr has worked or has been friday mueller finished without irrelevant . I think probably it worked. Charging a conspiracy. And we kind of knew that was going to happen. Theres no chargeable this report was going to see the conspiracy. That is the biggest most light of day in some way, in some fashion given that important demolishment of the expectation that there may have regulation puts it on his been a chargeable conspiracy and shoulder to decide whats in the Everything Else<\/a> in the report public interest. Former federal prosecutor with some context. Thanks for being here. Will wait on and fairly deal thanks for having me. Now were about to turn to with, communicate with congress, hear directly from two mueller go through a valid congress and witnesses on this news today and a whole lot more when were back turn it over. In just 30 seconds. He didnt do that. He felt the need or decided to go farther and say im going to give you my opinion on obstruction and if youve been following the news i dont think a president can easily obstruct justice and a whole bunch of other stuff. Why not in your view just focus on no chargeable conspiracy . Because i think bob barr is part of the team. I think thats clear. You showed the high stakes battles over the Mueller Report<\/a> continuing tonight. Attorney general bar pledging this redacted version by mid april. Dems demanding an unredacted version sooner. This is all a part of a process where washington is trans fixed on a report that most people havent seen, including the president and the congressional leaders. The only people who have much of an idea about whats in this nearly 400 page report are like mueller and his supervisors, rosenstein and barr. Second, the people in trumps orbit like the mueller witnesses who we talked toto provide information about key parts of the probe. Weve been gathering their views and testimony directly for that very reason. They were in muellers office. They provided information that will inform the report. So keep in mind that long before trump won the election or bob mueller was ever appointed, there was this fact that the probe began with the fbi scrutinizing four people linked to trump. Michael flynn, Paul Manafort<\/a>, carter page, and george papadopoulos. And now we have more information. The probe is over. What are the results . When you look at those people who were involved here in this probe into trump aides, Paul Manafort<\/a> convicted on a range of charges. Mike flynn convicted for liying to the fbi not charged let alone convicted on anything through the conclusion of this probe. So it is with great interest that we welcome back to the beat carter page, one of the first four as well as michael caputo, a former trump adviser who has given us his views and insights throughout. I really appreciate both of you coming back on the beat. Carter, how do you feel as the one out of the four who ended without charges . I feel bad for everything thats happened over the last several years, but what we saw on monday sorry, on sunday was basically stating the reality that ive been trying to say, you know, going back to my many conversations with chris hayes and, you know, countless discussions in the media. It was almost a no brainer. And i think what we see now is a turning point where there are much bigger investigations which are now on the horizon. I think we saw some discussion about that in the House Intel Committee<\/a> yesterday. Is your message to everyone that there were crimes but none by you . I think go back to the initial letter on sunday, right . Those there really was nothing, you know, conspiracy related. No chargeable election conspiracy. Absolutely. Yeah. And thats the whole point of it. But actually, you and i, we had the first conversation, the first time i ever talked about it on tv about my may, series of emails i sent to mr. Mueller and mr. Rosenstein. Everything that mr. Mueller was doing i think was on the up and up but as per the new investigations, i think theres some Big Questions<\/a> on mr. Rosenstein and the fisa warrants. You thought mueller was fair in what he found about you. Absolutely. Let me turn to you, michael. Weve had these discussions. You told us it was clear from the questions they were looking hard at collusion or believed in it. Lets take a look at in may of 2018 they believe that there was still they still believed in russian collusion. It was very obvious to me a lot of the questions they asked me showed it very clearly. What is your response to them finding no chargeable collusion . Does that mean in your view they honestly found the facts . I believe they dug deeper than anyone even expected they would. Say you what will about these fellows. I dont like a lot of what they did. I dont like what they did to roger stone and Paul Manafort<\/a>, but theyre a strong team. Theyre very thorough. Probably the strongest investigatory team we put together our federal government has in decades. And if they found no collusion, no evidence of anyone conspiring. No chargeable collusion. Right. But at the same time, i believe that they were never going to find it. But and i think its important to note that they were still interviewing people two weeks ago with questions about potential russian collusion. What does that tell you . It tells me they were crossing crossing all the ts and dotting all the is which turns out to be a pretty substantial report. We expect our inference being somewhat of you provided will be in the report. Some of that goes to why they didnt find an election conspiracy. These are legal developments that people have to take in factually. They also found, they say, obstruction, not by either of you, but they say they found it. When i sat with four of the witnesses, two of them including you, there was a discussion about who was questioned the most about whom. And stones name kept coming up. You and mr. Dunberg had an exchange about that. As we watch this back, lets recall that two days later the feds came to stones home to arrest him on the indictment. Take a look. Roger on not donald trump. Hes not going too get away with witness tampering. He should shut up. When he goes around and lies and says i was the only person that he told as a joke that met with julian assange, give me a break. That was wrong. Mr. Nunberg was right about where it was headed. Days later stone crimes. Why did stone do what he did providing evidence of obstruction if there was no chargeable conspiracy . You know, im not the expert on that, but i can tell you a lot of what hes been charged with, the idea for example on your show, ranee saying he gave no evidence, roger has all the Text Messages<\/a> and emails to prove that and hell prove that in court. Pushing off saying it was all corsi, patently false and roger will be able to prove that as well. I think hes shown those emails publicly. I pressed mr. Critico last night. What did that mean that there was this discussion about wikileaks, it wasnt chargeable . Why did roger appear to mislead . I dont think he did. His recollection. You remember some of the things hes been krcriticized for as t how he was conversing, they asked him did you do emails and texts and he said i think i did texts and emails and somehow it was a lie he was actually doing emails. Why would roger stone do that . If hes metexting and emailing why would he lie . Mueller says he repeatedly tried to prevent randy critico from testifying. The president has tried to do that very obvious but hes the president. The question on the show was whether stone would get away with it. I dont think he was preventing people from testifying and the idea in the Mueller Probe<\/a> that somehow taking away his dog was a threat of some kind, roger stone has been threatening to take away his dog for years. Roger stone has a house full of one legged dogs. He doesnt h dog. Is this just the bizarre defense . Heres the interesting thing, ari. After two years of this, of driving, you know, countless people out of their jobs, causing all kinds of havoc in peoples homes, mere witnesses, the mueller team finds themself at the end of the hallway, at the end of this entire game and theyre staring at jerry corsi who believes the most wild conspiracies in the world, roger stone, and randy who wears womens underwear. I dont know why youre getting into that. Because dozens of years of Yale Law School<\/a> education and they end at the freak show tent. Well, look, we try to treat people with respect here. Youre calling various people freaks. I want to keep it on point. Lets look at the mueller indictment of stone on the substance of what you say which is that stone, according to mueller, directed corsi to contact the head of wikileaks. Again, and carter this goes to a lot of other folks, you do understand why people are looking at all this and saying if this is all it was, what mr. Caputo just outlined and nothing more, why were there so many lies . The president did lie and did dictate a misleading statement and did call people rats and did try to get mueller fired according to his own counsel and own legal spokesman. Do you have a few having been so inside this of why . Listen, i think you want to talk about lies, lets talk about the obstruction of justice in the fisa court. I know youre hot on the fisa, but ill give you a deal. You answer me my question and then you can add on about fisa. How about that . Listen, im focused on sort of the macro picture of collusion with the russians and the whole fisa premise court. Most of those people that youre alluding to ive never had any relationship with. Its hard for me to opine. I think its a real shame in general. I think theres a lot that needs to be done from a policy perspective for our country and its too bad we get focussed on these things so long. What does it tell you that corsi was very assertively warned about a potential indictment and then the probe ended without him getting indicted . I think he could be the luckiest man in the world. I think he should buy a Lottery Ticket<\/a> or ten. Im surprised. I also believe that it indicates that corsi gave them information they were looking for probably on roger stone. Well probably see him brought in as a witness. So you would expect this Mueller Report<\/a>, which you guys have provided information, youve been deemed cooperative, is going to have more of the clues or explanation to what corsi and maybe credico and others gave up about stones attempts to according to Michael Cohen<\/a> brief donald trump about getting advance warning on wikileaks. No doubt. Im not sure how much will be revealed because we have a trial coming up with roger in november, and that might present issues. Back to your question about why did people lie, ive been wrestling with that myself. I think a lot of things have been labeled lies were not lies. But in addition when we look back at how this all started, how Hillary Clinton<\/a> campaign tried to create the russian to collusion narrative in order to discredit the president s election, the president often times would, you know, talk about the russian interference and russian collusion and wouldnt make the distinction. I believe there are a lot of people, including myself if donald trump hadnt fired james comey and talked about russia, none of you might have been in this. As you know, at that time donald trump thought he was doing the bidding of the democrats. In fact on Stephen Colbert<\/a> that might when they announced comey was fired, everybody stood up and cheered. Do you think that was the worst advice he ever got . I think it was among the worst advice he ever got. I think what chairman graham has been asking for with this Second Special<\/a> counsel looking into all these questions as to what exactly mr. Comey was doing throughout the 2016 election and the months of the new administration, i think well have a much better sense. And lightning round yes or no, you expect there to be pardons . Yes. No idea. No real relationship with the white house. And you expect the Mueller Report<\/a> to add to good news on obstruction or subtract from it for trump . I think it will be a mixed bag. There will be some bad things in there too. I think generally good. I really appreciate weve been able to draw on your primary experience both throughout this process which informed our understanding and now afterward and youre both in a position to tell your stories and you are one out of four. The other three are charged. Carter page, on the beat. 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Exactly when did you think america was great in it certainly wasnt when people were enslaved. It certainly wasnt when women didnt have the right to vote. It certainly wasnt when the Lgbt Community<\/a> was denied the rights to which it was entitled. Holder critiquing the idea that you have to go back in time to recapture american greatness. He said america has done great things, but that progress comes by looking ahead. It takes us back to i think an american past that never, in fact, really existed. This notion of greatness. America has done superb things, has done great things and has been a leader in a whole range of things, but were always a work in progress. Looking back to make America Great<\/a> again is inconsistent with americans that are our best. Thats what holder told us. Many headlines about this interview rushed to a binary take down where pence seized on that. Images in heart from George Washington<\/a> to world war ii, a strong man argument that maybe eric hold ser against those things. He posted a reply saying america is great. Make America Great<\/a> again means you think america is not great and he, quote, said backward looking. America is at its best when we look forward. Holder seeking to have a broader conversation about greatness, more than a forward slogan might encapsulate. We think this is a nuance discussion worth having. Im joined by rich benjamin, an a author where you spent a lot of time in, quote, the whitest communities in america trying to have these conversations. Yeah, ari, and while i was there youd hear the phrase lets take our country back. I want to take my country back. The question arose take it back from what . And i think thats what trumps make America Great<\/a> again was signalizing as though he could take it back in terms of race, in terms of gender, in terms of dirty Energy Economy<\/a> and all of it. What does it mean to you that Vice President<\/a> pence who is presumably busy wanted to jump on this conversation . Whether he saw the interview live on the beat or saw the discussion, the headlines i showed . He wanted to lean into this, but not necessarily to reckon with the Voting Rights<\/a> point that holder was making, that a democracy defined by everyone having the right to vote makes this a young democracy indeed. He just wants to double down on the symbolism of it. It reminded me when trump went to a conference, hugged the flag and said i will protect you. I think its trolling the Vice President<\/a> is doing without any policy substance of addressing what eric holder said. I want to play president obama who obviously was holders boss and threaded some of these needles in a way that seemed to build bridges, something we desperately might be lacking right now. Take a look. What greater form of patriotism is there than the belief that america is not yet finished . Their endeavors gave the entire south the chance to rise again. Not by reasserting the past but by transcending the past. Thats what america is. Not stock photos or air brushed history. We respect the past but we dont pine for the past. We dont fear the future. We grab for it. Its interesting that theres a reference to air brushed photos there, because thats a little bit of what exactly was happening in the twitter troll. Its a lot of what was happening in the twitter troll. By a little mean, i mean a lot a bit. A lot a bit. I wish obama had given that speech sooner than later, but in fairness to him, the context was the 50th anniversary of selma, but it really came so late and it was really present and we couldnt have foresaw trumps election when he gave that speech. Is it unhidden im sorry, hidden or unsee rule of american politics that you have to constantly speak about reform as an appeal to greatness rather than just acknowledging some of these things might not work well . We need to fix them . Yeah, i think it is. Two things. One is you appeal to the past and you appeal to how youve come up. I was born in a log cabin and i will make things great and i identify with you. Thats very nostalgic and backward looking versus i see the future, americas economy is not a zero sum game where were fighting each other like game of thrones, but we can make this better for all of us. Interesting. Youve given a lot of thought to these issues including how to break through on them and not just have the trolling. Rich benjamin, thanks for being on the beat. Who needs to fall back in we have a producer behind Kendrick Lamar<\/a> and jay z. s hits. When we come back. Metastatic Breast Cancer<\/a> is relentless, but im relentless too. Mbc doesnt take a day off, and neither will i. And i treat my mbc with everyday verzenio the only one of its kind that can be taken every day. 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Living with diseases like cancer, epilepsy, Mental Health<\/a> conditions and hiv. Maybe youre one of them. But new medicare rules could deny access to the latest, most effective therapies. Therapies that keep them healthy. Are medicare cuts that save less than one percent worth the risk to millions of patients . Call and tell congress, stop cuts to part d drug coverage medicare patients depend on. Its friday on the beat after quite a week. You know its time to fall back. I am joined by hip hop producer and dee jay just blaze who has produced top hits for art of thes like kanye west, m m, seven grammy nominations. Also a character in a video game, nba street volume 2. Goals. Were also joined by ms nbas own amen who was on the ground covering the revolution in egypt as one of the First Western<\/a> journalists to cover the trial of saddam hussein. He anchors the first look. You guys are busy people. Yes. Just blaze, who needs to fall back . Oh, man. You know what . Big game sport hunters. Im not a fan of hunting in general, but there was an incident, an executive from the video just surfaced. I think its cowardly. If youre hunting to eat, thats one thing. If youre hunting just to hang a head on the wall, i dont respect that. And to hunt a sleeping beast. And the way i look that, go fight the lion with your bear hands, knuckles, teeth and then come back and talk to me. Huntings no fun when your pray doesnt move. True. Indeed. Who needs fallback . Journalist is an unspoken rule. But this week in toledo o, ohio, a group off news anchors were trying to be cool, be millennial and they were trying to speak to their viewers in what some thought was a condescending way. When trying to be cool goes wrong in the news. Lets take a look. Good morning, it is testing week and its time to slay all day. Stay woke beyond fleek and get that gucci breakfast. Say bye felicia to that testing. Weather is going to be lit during testing week. Youve got this kids. Steve, how about that traffic . Are we looking were talking full. How did i miss that . Oh, my god. I know we talked about this earlier but i didnt expect to be that cringe worthy. And im procringe. That might have been too much even for us at the beat. I watched that and its too painful to watch. You dont know whether to laugh, cry. Can you help us, just blaze. Whats tlr secret to not ending up like that . Just stay in your lane. Ultimately my contemporaries, im not like most of them in the sense that my interests are different, my hobbies are different. You work with kanye but youre not living kanyes life. But theres no love lost in that. And what makes our collaborative efforts work. That i dont know what to call that. People, when theyre trying to identify with millennials or another generation period, it you dont want it to feel forced. I play my role, they play their role. We are who we are and the respect is mutual. And thats true when youre with beyonce. You dont try to be beyonce no. She says i have something to do or i go to her and say you have a record to sing im not up there doing the bootylicious dance on stage. Thats not my role. I think theres a way to speak to your audience without being condescending. Theres a way to get the message across but not be pate ruinizing and condescending. Theres always a meeting that happens before these things happen. So somebody ran through the script and co signed it. Right. Thats how it works. We talked about why you shouldnt hunt animals that are asleep and probably shouldnt do that, whatever that was. Thanks for being on the beat. You can always catch ayman on the break down. 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