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MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber August 5, 2019

Monday. People still had to go to work and talk to each other and share their grief and their thoughts and their mourning and discuss this tragic unacceptable seemingly new normal. Well, heres one small way to stop and reflect on how unacceptable this reality is for our nation, for each other, for our children, to acknowledge this level of violence occurs regularly itself is to know its wrong. In fact, thats the simple point presented succinctly on the front page of todays boston globe. This is what weve become. This is what weve become because this is reality. This is how we live now. To feel that reality and to know inside that its wrong is to maybe understand the beginning of how to change it. You dont need a newscast to also know theres no unity on solutions for all this in america right now. Top democrats are invoking these shootings to make a somewhat unusual call to demanding republican leader mcconnell interrupt the current summer recess to hold a vote on background checks. As a matter of political timing, that itself continues on a little bit of a shift because for years many conventional politicians in both parties actually would repeat this talking point, that the first reaction to these types of Mass Shootings should not be any call to particular action. That there must be time for fact finding and grieving. Well, now many politicians and Many Americans say, no, the general facts of the problem are well known. The grieving, the time for grieving has been somewhat constant and the time for real action long overdue. Take this crowd at a vigil in dayton last night. Shouting down the republican governor and telling him to just do something. Do something. Do something. Do something. Do something. These horrific mass murders, this masterer, these Mass Shootings, also knocked President Trump off the aggressive rhetoric and political battles he has been waging pretty much nonstop the past two weeks straight, we should note, part of that rhetoric included laughing off a different felony, attempted burglary at a home of a member of the u. S. Congress. So hes off that script right now, and he turned to a speech condemning White Supremacy with no mention of his own past rhetoric, or the calls for gun control. The shooter in el paso posted a manifesto online, consumed by racist hate. In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and White Supremacy. We must stop the gloria if i indication of violence in our society. This includes the gruesome and grisly video games that are now commonplace. Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun. You heard the rhetoric there. Newly shifted, a call to condemn White Supremacy. But that was within a speech that didnt fully condemn the White Supremacy thats been reported out from these very shootings. For example, minutes before this el paso shooting, authorities tell us now that the shooters writing appeared in a twisted and hatefilled post online. The New York Times analyzed it and their journalists reported that it matched Donald Trumps own words and language about immigrants. Today we also have coming into our newsroom a rare public detailed statement from president obama. As you probably know, there are a lot of things that he cares about that he worked on. He doesnt speak out every time there is an event, even a killing, even a horrific event. But he spoke out and let me tell you exactly what he said because many see it as partly a rebuke to donald trump. Quote, we should soundly reject language coming out of the mouths of any of our leaders that feeds a climate of fear and hatred or normalizes racist sentiments or suggests that other people, including immigrants, threaten our way of life or refer to other people as subhuman. The former president went on to say, it has no place in our politics and our public life and its time for the overwhelming majority of americans of good will of every race and faith and Political Party to say as much clearly and unequivocally. I turn now to our special guest tonight antonio villaraigosa, the mayor of los angeles, victoria de fran ka desoto, former university of texas. Mayor, what are you taking from what the president , former president just said . I think hes right. The role of the leader is to unite us. I was elected, the first for my community in 133 years. I understood what that role was. To open the door for the rest, and to create a common thread, a common unity, if you will, a call for unity. And i think thats what we need right now. And its unfortunate that the president of the United States hasnt been that person who makes the call that we ought to that were all americans no matter what country we come from. That whether we were born here or not, were human beings. And unfortunately, what we get from the white house is a lot of rhetoric, hateful rhetoric against immigrants. As we all knows, he started his campaign focusing on mexicans as rapists and criminals. Instead of people that come here like people have come from every corner of the earth, to make america what its always held itself out to be, a place where we welcome people. Victoria . So, when president obama was talking about the need to recognize the humanity because what happened a couple of years ago when donald j. Trump descended from the escalators and calling mexicans rapists and drug dealers is the drip, drip, drip of dehumanizing immigrants, mexicans, people who are not your typical white anglo saxon protestants started there and has continued. With that dee humanization, we have become desensitized. At the top of the show you said weve become this is normal. The headline says weve gotten used to this and its not right. So in the wake of this, what do we do . We need to resensitize ourselves. Media outlets such as msnbc and others have been telling the stories of the victims who were shot over the weekend. A father, parents, daughter, and we need to not let go of this. Keep bringing up the humanity because this is the only thing that is going to push up against the rhetoric that donald trump, others in his party, keep pushing forward that ultimately foment this. Yes, gun laws can be tweaked. Yes, Mental Health. But really, at this moment, i think we need to focus on the rhetoric and the need to right the ship in terms of who we are as a nation, e pluribus unim. You lay that out in terms of what everyone knows and being diplomatic and rise above certain moments is intention with acknowledging the way that donald trump has traumatized the country and the type of hate hes uncorked and what hes appealing to. We all know what it is. Congressman orourke is running for president , but served as a representative for el paso here and is tied to it, was quite strong. I think as strong as weve ever seen him in public on this. Take a look. Is there anything in your mind that the president can do now to make this any better . What do you think . You know [ bleep ] hes been saying. Hes been calling mexican immigrants rapists and criminals. I dont know members of the press, what the [ bleep ] hold on a second. You know, its these questions that you know the answers to. I mean, connect the dots about what hes been doing in this country. Hes not tolerating racism. Hes promoting racism. Victoria . Its that rawness, that emotion i would hope most of us feel, but i dont know if everyone necessarily feels. And its you know, it is this emotion that we hope will push leaders to do something, but ultimately it comes down to us, ari, it comes down to voters, to individuals. So were in the midst of ramping up to a president ial election and elections have consequence. So is the American Public at resensitized enough . Are we shocked enough to do something to make a difference at the ballot box . Or has this become the new normal . And, ari, i wish i could tell you one way or the other definitively, but i dont know. I dont know if weve become too desensitized and donald j. Trump could continue what hes doing. I hope its not, but it is a possibility. Both of you stay with me. I want to advance our conversation here and bring in a former Police Commissioner for both new york and los angeles. Commissioner bill brad, an analyst for us at nbc. Thank you for joining us. Great to be with you and mayor villaraigosa. Your boss. Handling issues like this he was a great boss. Where do we go from here, commissioner . Well, the good news, as we focus on the bad news, is that from each of these incidents we learn a lot. Fbi has recently formed a special unit to really focus on this particular problem and its growth and what to do about it in terms of better capabilities to detect it as its growing, and improve their ability to detect early on to prevent it from happening. So out of the negative comes the positive. Im reminded of the early 1990s in our country during the midst of the worst crime years in the history of our country, 1990, 91. There were so many who felt that nothing could be done and a lot ended up being done in the 90s so that new york city today, 80 less crime than it had back in that era, nobody would have believed that. Similar to these issues, as i look at it and basically try to deal with the grief around the tragedy, i deal with the grief by focusing on what might be done about it going forward. And i look back to the successes in the 90s. And as we go forward dealing with this issue, the White Supremacists, a president who is insensitive to these issues, a total donothing congress, i love the nickname today, massacre mitch, going along with moscow mitch of last week. The sentiment is building up against this donothing congress who doesnt want to hear anything, see anything, and say anything. Well, the fact that that governor in texas last night was shouted down by his constituents is going to send the message, we need more shouting down of politicians who just come into these things and issue their pla platitudes and do nothing. Im optimistic out of these tragedies will come a foundation to move forward. Mayor villaraigosa, take a listen to what we know rings so hollow in the president s calls today, which is how he sounds normally. Take a listen. I think theres blame on both sides. And you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Democrats want to invite caravan after caravan of illegal aliens to pour into our country. Thats an invasion. I dont care what they say. I think thats probably why beto got so upset. Is he a racist . Come on, if you walk like a duck and talk like a duck hes been talking like this for years now, from way back, from the central park five. So i think whats important is chief bratten just spoke to. The fbi apparently has now created a task force thats going to focus on domestic terrorism particularly White Nationalist domestic terrorists. Weve seen a connection between the White Nationalist manifesto in gilroy, the similar attribution in el paso. I think we need to focus on whats going on here with respect to this group. You mentioned that it used to be that people didnt raise the issue of what do we do in the beginning. You remember that. Right. And i always acknowledged that. But this, as was mentioned, so many of these events have happened that i think its appropriate for us to say, particularly when the president mentioned it this morning, what are we going to do about universal background checks . More than 80 of nra members believe that we ought to have stronger universal background checks. Straw purchasers, buy them on behalf of others legally, but illegally for others. I was the author of the assault weapons ban in the 1990s and some of the toughest legislation in california when i was speaker of the assembly. We need a national one because what happens in california, you may have a ban in california, but you can go to nevada or arizona to pick up those same weapons. So we need to do something about this and i think the chief is right. Were just out of time, but while i have you, mr. Bratton, what about folks watching at home who are afraid, afraid for their families, afraid of when the next shooting would be, what is the practical advice you give folks . Practical advice would be to not be afraid, to be aware. I spent a lot of time today moving around the city, bryant park, down in harold square, by Madison Square garden. I was out on the streets. People here in new york are going about their lives. They need to be aware. They need to be angry about this and the fact that nothing is being done, once again, by the leadership of this country. But in the sense of fear, you cannot live in fear because then fear wins. No, be aware. Good news also is that Law Enforcement is Getting Better at dealing with these incidents in terms of when they happen, but also Getting Better at trying to detect them. The focus always has to be on the prevention rather than satisfaction that we made, we stopped it. The good news is the efforts by the fbi, for example, the efforts certainly that im familiar with in los angeles and new york, the focus of the police on precision policing to prevent and take successes with the prevention rather than our response. You have to have both, but for the public, your Public People watching tonight, the millions here in new york city, go about your lives. Enjoy your lives. But get angry about these incidents that take so many lives to make sure that effectively they dont take the lives of your family going forward. Former commissioner bratton, former mayor villaraigosa, victoria, thank you to you. We have the details on what is getting to Mitch Mcconnell. Senator and president ial candidate Kirsten Gillibrand is here on the beat. Later well look deeply at the White Nationalist rhetoric where the el paso gunman found his, quoteunquote, inspiration. Meanwhile calls for strategy to prevent domestic attacks, something barack obama cited. Were going to speak to the every town gun reform here. Im ari melber. Youre watching the beat on msnbc. Msnbc. Ally these days. dad i think its here. mom vo especially at this age. big sister where are we going . mom vo its a big, beautiful world out there. little sister woah. big sister wow. See that . mom vo sometimes you just need a little help seeing it. avo the threerow subaru ascent. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. Get zero percent during the subaru a lot to love event. Dprevagen is the number onemild memopharmacistrecommendedng . Memory support brand. You can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. Prevagen. 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Hes given license for this toxic brew of White Supremacy to fester more and more in this country. The president has embraced White Nationalists. When White Nationalists embrace him and call

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