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MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber July 16, 2020

That straight ahead. And a major move today in the investigation into Breonna Taylors police killing, but we begin tonight with coronavirus surging across the country yet again. New questions about Hospital Data and what trump is doing with it and the administration going against science. The president has said unmistakably that he wants schools to open, and i was just in the oval talking to him about that. When he says open, he means open in full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school. The science should not stand in the way of this. Yeah, you heard that correctly. Quote, science should not stand in the way of this. Were going to have a lot more straight on this ahead. Heres whats happening right now. 41 states with rising infection rates, more than 3. 5 million cases nationwide. In florida alone, 54 hospitals are out of icu beds, ten in miamidade county. C i coronavirus data has disappeared from the cdc website after trump shifted control to his administration. Also, new for the first time in a month and a half, trump and dr. Fauci finally speaking. It comes as trump aides smeared fauci with false information. Moments ago fauci saying this in an interview with facebooks mark zuckerberg. One of the important things that were emphasizing right now that really evolved from a situation that did change is our insistence now on wearing masks. I mean, masks are very important. They protect you from giving infection to someone else. Fauci very clear there, masks work, yet trump ally Georgia Governor Brian Kemp is actually overturning a mask mandate as cases surge in his state, but marylands republican governor is blasting trumps response as hopeless. Now, the virus response is clearly hurting trump in the polls. You might be seeing more of these devastating ads on the air. The president took unprecedented steps. Decisive action. Because of the unprecedented action that President Trump took. It is among the reasons why the threat to americans of coronavirus remains low. And i have to tell you, standing here today i couldnt be more proud to stand alongside this president. We believe we are slowing the spread. We slowed the spread. We flattened the curve. We saved lives. I think by memorial day weekend, we will largely have this coronavirus epidemic behind us. Joining me now is dr. Natalie azar, rheumatologist with nnyu l l langone. Great to have you with us. Let me start with you and get your reaction to that ad. It really plays here on a very important point, which is not just the republican establishment that has come to the defense or rallied behind President Trump from governors like brian kemp or greg abbott or ron desantis. Its actually using the Vice President against the rise that were seeing of coronavirus cases. Ive got to say as i was watching it, i both laughed and groaned at the same time, which i think means its a pretty effective ad. I dont think theres any question that the president s handling of this has hurt him very badly. His numbers have steadily gone down among the American People on this. The revival of the virus it never went away, but the new increases in the virus are a direct result of putting a political desire to have a big announced reopening and, yes, everything is back to normal, putting that over what scientists and a lot of just plain common sense was saying that we didnt have this beaten. The good news, i think, is that science is fighting back because the American People largely agree with the scientists. If you look at polling on mask wearing, twothirds of americans believe in it, really small numbers, 15, 20 say they hardly ever or never wear masks. Similarly on school openings, most parents really would rather have their kids be in classrooms, but there was an axios poll recently that showed that 71 of americans saw it as a large or moderate risk. I think the politicians, trump is going to have to adjust, and some republicans are adjusting. Theyre finally saying, yes, wae wear masks. Today was one of those days where i was like i wish i was sitting in that White House Press Briefing Room so i could ask the press secretary, if science is not driving this decision, what is . Because if its politics, you can talk about it. If its economics, the road still has to go through science. If its health, it still has to go through science. So for me its just a bizarre declaration that science is not driving this. Dr. Azar, your response to the White House Press secretary saying that science should not stand in the way of schools reopening, it makes you genuinely wonder what in the world are they calculating to open these schools . Yeah, ayman, you know, i dont necessarily want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but to me it just sounds like a true misspeak. I mean, no one in their right mind would ever think that was a logical thing to say. What ive heard, you know, some whisperings about is potentially she was referring to, you know, studies that suggest that children are not as likely as adults to, number one, get severely ill which we know, but also to not transmit as readily to others, although theres some caveats to even saying that. So i dont know if her messaging got a little bit muddled with just the wording that she used. Quite honestly, i really think she might have not meant to say that because it makes absolutely no sense. Im actually im not going to give her the benefit of the doubt on that. That is a pretty big statement to make from the press secretary standing there speaking to the entire country and certainly the country deserves better than just some kind of misspeak about science and our childrens health. E. J. , how do you explain the fact that weve gotten as a country to a point where masks have been made political, where the governor of georgia is literally telling people he will not mandate wearing a mask and prohibiting city officials and counties who do want to mandate wearing a mask from doing so. I think this is one of the terrible, terrible things thats happened during crisis where symbols are totems have become central to politics rather than an honest discussion. You can have an honest disagreement over contactually h exactly how and when you reopen the country, but the science has just gotten so clear on mask wearing. Theres just no doubt that this substantially helps retard the virus. So its pure symbolism. I would point out that weve been through this before in america, back during the great flu pandemic of 1918. There was actually an organization in San Francisco called the antimask league, and these were people resisting mask wearing, people who didnt wear them were called mask slackers, and so weve been here before, but my god, we are in an era where we have an awful lot of good scientific information, and turning this into a partisan symbol is just finally really stupid and dangerous. Dr. Azar, youve probably seen dr. Fauci appearing on a lot of digital shows over the last couple of days. That is because he has been b n banned from appearing on tv per se, at least as we understand it. How important is it for the public to be able to hear from this official . And im not trying to in any way belittle digital audiences who are watching this, because they probably are watching in large numbers, but it doesnt necessarily carry the same weight as Major Television appearances, which he used to do before he was sidelined by the white house. Yeah, no, ayman, its incredibly important, and i think, you know, for a Health Care Professional like myself to the general public to have a consistent message and frankly transparency from our government has been one of the biggest deficiencies, if not the greatest deficiency. And a point to id like to make a followup point to what e. J. Was saying about the masks. We actually have in addition to all of the experimental and lab data, we have some real world examples of just how much of an impact mask wearing has in terms of inhibiting viral transmission. One was a study done at mass general with Health Care Workers that showed almost more than half of a decrease in the rates of positivity and Health Care Workers who wore masks and then im not sure if you saw this data out of the hair salon where two hair stylists who actually were exposed and mildly symptomatic, nobody got infected, so if anybody needs any more support or encouragement or evidence to support mask wearing, weve got it, but i would also like to add that its not just that. We still need to do the social distancing and the hand washing. One single loan is not going to make the difference. All three things do and can. We did not know all of this a couple of months ago. Shame on us for not implementing this at least now. Shame on anyone who denied the science so to speak. Dr. Natalie azar thank you both for joining us. Now to a stunning report, russia is trying to steal Covid Vaccine research. The u. S. , uk, and canadian intelligence agencies allege that russia is using malware to hack the no word from the white house several hours after that statement was released. Joining me now is democratic senator from maryland, chris van hollen. Its great to have you with us this evening. What do you think about this plot, so to speak . What have you been able to gather so far . Well, ayman, its good to be with you, and based on everything im hearing, these are credible reports. Its not surprising that the russians would try to hack into our systems to try to steal our technology. What is surprising is that they think they can do this with impunity, and ive been pushing this administration from the beginning to have a policy that we say to the russians or any other country or company that wants to try to interfere in our systems, whether theyre elections or stealing technology, that there will be a price to pay. That we will say upfront that there will be sanctions imposed on your banks or on certain individuals. Unfortunately, at least in the case of russia, theyve gotten the message that this administration will let them get away with just about anything. What do you want to hear from President Trump . Because as i just noted, its been several hours since this came out. The president cant use the line that this is a hoax because this was officially announced by the intelligence agencies and security apparatuses in the uk, canada, and here in the United States, so we cant dismiss it as a report, and yet, we havent heard anything from the white house on this, not even a tweet. Well, thats right. We saw the president s reaction to the earlier credible reports that the russians had offered bounties to kill american soldiers in afghanistan. The president tried to dismiss it because he hadnt done anything about it. His silence is very telling. Hes always cozied up to putin. You remember that scene just a few years ago at helsinki when he was essentially siding with putin when, you know, putin said, no, we did not interfere in your elections. So its not surprising, unfortunately, that the president hasnt said anything. Lets see what he says at this point in time, but it just underscores the importance of putting in place a policy that tells russia in advance if you interview in our elections or if you try to steal our technology. There will be a price to pay. We have proposed Bipartisan Legislation to do it, but the administration has not supported that. Let me hone in on that for a moment. You and senator sasse have legislation to protect American Intellectual property, i believe thats what youre referring to there as Bipartisan Legislation. It would require a report to Congress Every six months about american ip thefts or attempts, require sanctions on firms and individuals engaged in it. Ban travel to the u. S. For those involved in it. What has the reaction been from the white house on that legislati legislation. Were still hoping theyll come on board. They have not endorsed it. They actively opposed and continue to oppose another piece of legislation that i introduced with senator rubio called the deter act, which is to set up a similar sort of sanctions regime if we catch the russians interfering in our elections. That seems to be common sense. It has brought bipartisan support. The administration took the position, they dont want to penalize russia if they get involved in our elections. Im hoping in this case when it comes to theft of technology, the president will be supportive. The track record so far has been abysmal. Senator chris van hollen, thank you so much for joining us this evening. I appreciate your time as always. Good to be with you. A stunning new accusation from President Trumps niece, mary trump telling msnbcs ra l Rachel Maddow shes heard President Trump use antisemitic slurs and the n word, well talk about it with the reverend al sharpton. Im ayman mohyeldin, youre watching the beat on msnbc. Watching the beat on msnbc chicago ok, so, magnificent mile for me i thought i was managing. My moderate to severe Crohns Disease. Yes until i realized something was missing. Me. You ok, sis . My symptoms kept me from being there for my sisters. Flight boarding for flight 2007 to chicago. So i talked to my doctor and learned. Humira is for people who still have symptoms of Crohns Disease after trying other medications. And the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief. And many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections. 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You cant say you ever heard it from him, or did you hear it from him too . Oh, yeah, of course i did. And i dont think that should surprise anybody given how virulental virulentally racist he is today. Have you heard the president use the n word . Yeah. And antisemitic slurs specifically . Yes. Msnbc reached out to the white house for comment, and they said this is a book of falsehoods plain and simple. The president doesnt use those words. I want to bring in reverend al sharpton, host of msnbcs politics nation and president of the National Action network. Rev, great to have you with us. First, let me get you your reaction to this stunning revelation really that you just heard from mary trump, the president s niece saying she heard the president use the n word and use antismsemitic slu. Well, i would agree with the statement she made that it is stunning, yes, but surprising. If you look at the fact that they were sued and had to settle for discrimination in their real estate business and then this president went on with the central park five where he called for the execution of five innocent young black and brown young men that we many in the community, including myself, stood and said they were innocent even after it was found later with dna that they were innocent, he still said they were guilty and that they should not have been given a settlement. But lets fast forward, this is the president that said there were fine men and women on both sides in charlottesville where you had neonazis, selfdescribed some of them, neonazis that marched against jews, and they were there saying jews will not replace us, and he said there were fine people on both sides, there were blacks and jews on the other side there to protest a confederate statue. If you want to say people have used words that they regret in life, you can only match to the actions to see if that is against their actions. His actions would give clear legitima legitimacy. The president was asked about the george floyd and the killing of black men in this country at the hands of police. He fired back dismissing the question saying white people are killed more than black people and also im old enough to remember the president making those comments that were widely considered as playing on antisemitic tropes when he was speaking to a group of republican donors, republican jewish donors and suggesting that they liked a good deal, along those lines. This is a president , rev, who has a track record also while hes in office and running for office of using very racist and antisemitic tropes. And backing them up with his actions in terms of housing discrimination, in terms of criminal justice situations, and in terms of how he characterizes neonazis. So lets not just act like these were just words isolated from his actual actions including now. Blacks are killed 3. 5 times more by police in this country. Numerically are more killed by police, thats not the point. The point is the percentage. For him to dismiss that in this era where we are talking about george floyd and any number of cases and him to not even show any kind of concern about that and just flip it and talk about, well, whites do too shows a complete disregard for the lives of black people and a criminal Justice System thats systemically racist. Rev, stay with me for a moment. I want to bring into the conversation, david from, a former speech writer for george w. Bush. Good to have you with us as well. As we just heard, theres some stunning revelations. As the reverend al sharpton said, perhaps not surprising given what weve seen from the president since he first ran for office and now since he has been president. What is your

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