Transcripts For MSNBCW The Cross Connection With Tiffany Cro

Transcripts For MSNBCW The Cross Connection With Tiffany Cross 20210116

Rounding up far right extremists we the dozens and following up on allegationses there may have been help by inside Law Enforcement. This year the pomp and circumstance will most definitely be overshadow fwid widespread measures currently being put in place. Plans for sunday had to be postponed due to safety concerns. More than 20,000 National Guard troops have been called into d. C. This week thats roughly four times as many troops currently in iraq and afghanistan. Additionally, the National Mall has been closed, 13 subway stations have been shuttered, and even airbnb has canceled all reservations in the beltway as this city hunkers down. But more threats of violence are not contained to washington, d. C. According to the fbi, all over the country state capitols face threats of their own amid Donald Trumps twomonth campaign to defraud the American People of their Fair Election results. In michigan, a state narrowly won in 2015 and nearly won in 2020. Sevenfoot fencing was involved around the Michigan State capitol and lansing city hall, and rumored demonstrations by the same dangerous far right hate groups responsible for so many other riots including the proud boys. Joining me live now from lansing michigan is dasha burns, a digital reporter for msnbc. Look, dasha. The state house isnt even in session. What do you expect to see today . Reporter yeah, tiffany. Since weve been here weve seen those security measures ramping up, that fence around the capitol. Weve seen a visible presence from the Michigan State police and theyll be joined by the National Guard. Theres been a statement issued. If you not do have a specific reason to be in the downtown area this weekend, please, stay away from this area. Officials tell me because of this history, theyre no strangers to these kinds of demonstrations. They feel confident theyll be able to handle anything that comes their way. But at the same time, tiffany, there does seem to be this sort of shift in mood, shift in climate since what we witnessed at the nations capitol on january 6th. I spoke to the chief of police here in lansing about that and his concerns. Take a listen. I am very concerned about the safety of our officers. What we saw on television reference the u. S. Capitol was just horrific, and i speak to you as a Law Enforcement official and also a member of the military, the navy reserves, and so for me it was difficult to watch. And our officers, i actually had a long communication with our officers, very concerning what we saw, particularly from that group that has really embraced this whole notion of Blue Lives Matter. Reporter and michigan, of course, is an open carry state and officials are expecting armed militia groups as well as other militia groups tomorrow, but earlier this week the michigan capitols commission banned open carry inside of the capitol, but some lawmakers say that did not go far enough because concealed carry is still allowed. Tiffany . That is quite scary, dash ya. Please stay safe and stay warm. I see the snow out there. We look forward to hearing more from you. Well check back if something pops off in michigan. Lansing, michigan, isnt the only capitol under siege by trump supporter who continues his baseless claims of leecz fraud. In minnesota, protesters are gearing up for a protest by last weeks insurrectionist rally at the capitol in st. Paul. According to newsweek, the emcee of last weeks rally said at the end of the event, quote, were going to fight, were going to go down, theres going to be casualties. That doesnt sound like a rally to me. And in nye, theres a letter claiming President Trump will still be president for the next four years. Spoiler alert. He wont. And the next 12 days will be something to tell the grandchildren. Its 1776 all over again, he says. Theyre calling for an fbi investigation as a result. Joining me now, the attorneys general for those two states. Keith ellison of minnesota and aron mcford of nevada, and msnbc security analyst clint watts. Aron, i want to start with you. First of all, the fact that theres an elected gop official sending out this kind of delusional rhetoric is kind of scary. I want to ask you. Have you seen anything that gives you cause to raise your temperature, raise the alarm on whats happening on the ground . First off, tiffany, congratulations on your show. Thank you, aron. Absolutely. To answer your question, what has given us pause is some of the contentioning coming out of nye county. We are prepared to address some of these issues as they arise. Let me ask you. Im curious about this. As attorney general of the state, whats your role in prosecuting people . Lets say if someone from your state was involved in this, do you have a role in bringing about justice . Well, it depends. Theres the division of labor. To the extent the long arm of the law in nevada, we will absolutely be pursuing those. But we are working with, again, our local Law Enforcement agencies and the local prosecutors like the d. A. S, but were also working with the federal government to ensure that whoever is engaging in this nonprotected speech, nonprotected activity will be held accountable. So keith ellison, i want to turn to you on this one. The fbi out of your state actually issued this alert and sounded the alarm, and they talked a lot about these Boogaloo Boys. I want to ask you, before this violent insurrection happened at the capitol, were the Boogaloo Boys on anybodys radar in minnesota . Yes. In fact, some of them were prosecuting criminally for violence that they did during the george floyd protest. So, again, many of the protesters were very violent, very well contained, very peaceful protesters, but there were some individuals who did very horrific violent acts, lighting Police Departments on fire. Theyre criminally prosecuted for that right now, some of them as far away as texas. Really they werent people who were part of raising the issue of george floyd. They were interveners, interlopers who were working to try to undermine the credibility of those particular protests. So, yeah, weve seen them, and weve seen others as well. Three percenters. There are a range of these groups that have been active. This is so bizarre. Were going to be talking later in the hour about online radicalization of some of these folks. This is quite scary. Clint, i want to turn to you on this. Some of the alerts were seeing from Law Enforcement, its like be careful from now until inauguration day. But the truth of the matter is its not over on inauguration day. Its pretty much a suicide mission. What do we do a week from now . A month from now . Six months from now . Thats exactly right. I honestly believe at this point what we saw happen at the capitol was just a harbinger of a series of events or series of events that well see over the next many months and even throughout the year. If you can think about what weve witnessed in these different groups, so, Boogaloo Boys who are trying to foe meant a second war, theyre going to embrace it. Theyre not going away. About these big moments. Youre showing pictures of a highly emblematic of that thought. There are militia groups. They should stand down because they see theres a large military and Law Enforcement presence in the capitol, but theyre not going to either. Theyre saying we need to take time, we need to wait. I think its going to be a massive challenge for the Biden Administration to try to unify people particularly if elected leaders try to foe meant this sort of chaos, if they continue to point. Weve been lucky in one sense during the pandemic that there have not been mass demonstrations. When we think about terrorism, id like to remind people and jump them back to the 1990s when we were talking about eric rudolph, timothy mcveigh, the atlanta and Oklahoma City bombings. Thats my big fear running through 2021. Let me just stick with you for a second. Its not like we didnt know White Supremacy was a problem. A lot of these folks subscribe to the White Supremacy ideology. Its not like the government hasnt issued warnings about this where they were intent on attacking congress. So what would you say to current Law Enforcement agencies, particularly at the federal level about taking these threats seriously and how do they take on these threats when it could be individuals or the masses . I would say ive watched the fbi over the last couple of years. There was a white supremacist shooting at a walmart in el paso. Absolutely. They have picked this up. Theyve arrested many connected to the Boogaloo Boys heading into the election. How many arrests have they done . Ive never seen a terrorism or extremism scenario where they had to do this many cases before then. Two weeks ago we were talking about the nashville bombing, which we still dont know why it occurred. And now theyre having to deal with the inauguration. Its a capacity issue because its just growing out there in the public. Growing like weeds across the country. I want to turn back to my attorneys general. Aaron, ill kick it to you first. I dont want to lose my amen corner, but let me ask you, how do attorneys general of these states who are prosecuting people who incite violence but also protect the legitimate rights of people just protesting. We should be clear about the clear line here. Youve got florida man, ron desantis, whos trying to Institute Laws that will proportion natalie impact black lives matter protests. How do we walk this fine line, and, aaron, what do you say . Tiffany, its a great question. Im glad you answered. The truth is not as dead as the death sea scrolls but it doesnt take a dead sea scholar to know the difference. You mentioned Boogaloo Boys a little earlier. Some bombs come in and try to infiltrate and coop it. Boogaloo boys came in with molotov cocktails, and they got caught. Others were coopted by violent protesters or rioters. As i have said at the very beginning, whether it was people addressed in militia attire on our states capitol, that they have the right to peacefully do that, whether it was a black lives matter protest, protesting in favor of blake lives, or whether it was people protesting on the capitol against an election they didnt like. If you violate the law, we will prosecute you. Thats good to know. Keith ellison, i school you the same question. How do you walk that fine line . I think its important to send a message to people who attend a protest that if you see someone with a weapon, if you see someone with an incendiary device, if you see someone waving a violent white supremacist flag or sending out a violent message, walk away from that. Be clear. These people are trying to use you to push forth violence. You who are there for a peaceful protest no matter what your cause is back away and say, i didnt show up for this. I would imagine theres a fair number of people who showed up at the capitol on january 6th who were told by the president that the election was stolen, but were only there to raise their voices. They got exploited, and the entire enterprise looked really bad when the violent folks used them. Yeah, absolutely. I want to punctuate again. Theres a difference between people protesting to protect their lives and people protesting because they didnt get their way. That one was a riot. Thank you, keith ellison, and aaron ford, and clint watts. Youll be back on the show, all three of you. Michigan is delivering some accountability. This week nine former government officials including exgovernor rick snider were charged in connection with the flint water crisis that killed 12 people and sickened 80 more with legionnaires disease. Snyder has pleaded not guilty. Up next, will donald trump be called to testify in his own impeachment trial . We get that critical question answered, so dont go anywhere. Answered, so dont go anywhere heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue or lightheadedness, dont wait to contact your doctor. Because these symptoms could be signs of a serious condition like atrial fibrillation. Which could make you about five times more likely to have a stroke. Your symptoms could mean something serious, so this is no time to wait. Talk to a doctor, by phone, online, or inperson. 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Now, a warning that some of the images youre about to see are very graphic, but just like the foreign terrorism that attacked this country on september 11th, lets never forget the domestic terrorism, the violence wreaked upon the nation last week when a real tv star rode the system of White Supremacy all the way to the white house and encouraged a mad maga riot at the u. S. Capitol. Five people died. Quite a few more were hurt. We found Trump Supporters assault a Police Officer with an american flag. You can see it right on your screen. In another ridiculous incident, one d. C. Police officer recounted being beaten with a Blue Lives Matter flag. This is where we are in our country. Those guardrails of our democracy are being contested. The business continues. That business including impeaching the 45th president of these United States, and also the first to ever be convicted in the senate if 17 public senators join democrats to vote yes. Thats a big if. Well see. When the second impeachment trial begins, the survivors of this trump survival snuks will be the jury. Joining us to talk about it is house impeachment manager joaquin castro. Congressman, im so happy to have you on the show. Thank you for joining us on a saturday. This impeachment trial is historymaking and youre making history by being the impeachment manager to present this trial to your upper chamber, your colleagues and the senate. Theyre going to need 17 republican senators to buy into this. Have you had any indication that any one of the republicans in tupper chamber, the senate, might be open to voting to remove donald trump . Ive been encouraged by some of the republican senators of the comments that have been made, but were trying to convince every one of them that donald trump is responsible for inciting a deadly insurrection against the United States government which was essentially a failed coup. We hope everybody puts country above another person, against donald trump. I said removed. Convicted. Hell be out of office by the time this impeachment trial begins. Let me ask you. What are you considering concerning your witness list . Might we hear from don junior . We all saw that video of don junior behind the stage laughing at the video camera with his girlfriend guilfoyle, all of these folks. Or could donald trump even himself be called . What do you say . I know a lot of folks are asking whos going to be part of the trial and how will it be conducted . All of those things will become more clear in a few weeks. Were still in the preparation stage, so i cant give you a witness list. Most of all, everything we do wants to be aimed at getting message across to the senators that donald trump has to be held for inciting this deadly insurrection. What it is, we want to make sure we make the strongest case possible so they vote to convict. Have you had any indication on who is going to be defending donald trump . Theres some reporting that it will be john eastman who spoke at the rally. He was recently fired from the university. He defended donald trump in multiple ridiculous voter fraud cases across the country. Have you been able to hear anything if hell be part of the defense team, or do you have any idea who it would be. I have no idea who the president is going to be able to hire or get to defend him in this case. Let me ask you. Some of the reporting has insinuated that well hear from, like i said, make Donald Trumps family. I know you guys are still considering that. During the last impeachment trial, i watched congressman Hakeem Jeffries and adam schiff respond in realtime. They responded with a rhetoric. I said it was like watching the practice, a david e. Kelly tv series. I know you guys are still in the process. Its nine of you. Have you figured out whos going to present the case and whos going to respond to some of the allegations that may come from the defense . As you can imagine, were in those discussions now. Weve been gathering, talking a lot, preparing. The house just voted to impeach just a few days ago, and so were getting ready. But this is a great group of folks from the congress, myself, and eight other people, and we will be ready to go when the trial starts. So this time around compared to the last impeachment trial, democrats will be in control, if the two new senators from georgia are seated, which i think will happen on january 22nd, though Vice President elect Kamala Harris will be over the senate along with chuck schumer. How will it be different compared to last time when republicans controlled the upper chamber. Most of the time what you seek any time you present in a trial is fairness in ruling. Thats what we hope for. Look. This is different obviously from the last impeachment in terms of the substantive issue. Its one article of impeachment and its very clear. It has to do with the fact that the presiden

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