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0 are viewing this situation because as matt was talking about, the way that we were able to get away with not calling this a coup was because there was public support behind removing morsi when the military did decide to take control. they did have some popular support to start with. how are they viewing this current situation? do you have a sense of public sentiment on the street changing? the word that is being used to describe egypt these days is polarized. there s no doubt about it. many egyptians are torn on many different sentiments. on one hand, the overwhelming majority of egyptians do not support the muslim brotherhood. they were not happy or satisfied with the way president morsi was conducting the affairs of their country. that was what led to the popular revolt we saw back on june 30th and led to his removal. on the other hand, many people are supporting the strong tactics by the military and the police. some have gone so far as to say trying to get at was that the ruling regime of morsi did not always follow a constitutional democracy in its shorter pendency. in fact, he annuled constitutional amendments that were designed to limit his power and he had open fights with the military. matt, my question to you is perhaps there s a way to look at this that doesn t involve simply saying this was a coup or not. the binary question that obviously determines a lot of our funding and that s why we talk about it that way but looks at whether either of these regimes, morsi with some democratic legitimacy and the military with street legitimacy but nothing much more are now both seriously substandard by any modern notion of democracy and human rights? i think that s well put, ari. we re in this moment of pure mackey mackie a developian power plays. walks of life, minorities, women, all kinds of representatives both on the political spectrum and on the demographic spectrum. that s going to be very difficult. that s not something that egypt historically has been used to because really the bottom line is egyptians haven t been used to practicing politics. that in itself is ground breaking for egyptians. how to compete for power peacefully, how to share it, how to use it with a lot of responsibility. that s on one hand. worse case scenario, we can see the type of violence escalate with the extremist, more importantly ideological extremist try to use this as an opportunity to say, look, democracy doesn t work. they ll never let political islamists work. the only way to resort to our objectives is violence. if that happens, you can rest assured it will be extremely problematic for the region. egypt is the largest arab country. it is the epicenter in the arab world. what emanates here gets sent across the arab world. that could be a major new wave of ideological extremism that could undermine some of the countries. aynan mohyeldin, thanks for breaking this down for us and matt as well. we ll keep an eye on what s happening and keep you updated on any developments. up next, we ll dig into another aspect of american foreign policy, rome. much more cycle ahead. i m only in my 60 s. i ve got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn t pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. 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right. so i think the obama administration isn t going to tomorrow sit down and say, we need to rethink our yemen policy, this isn t working. people have been criticizing what it is that they re doing for some time, but i think the obama administration can make sort of three basic tweaks to that that would go a long way towards minimizing the damage that the u.s. does while maximizing the good. the first is sort of taking the signature strikes off the table, being much more judicious in the remaining drone strikes, but second is building up human intelligence on the ground. the cia has lost a dozen years in which the cia has moved much more towards being a paramilitary organization than collecting, sifting, analyzing intelligence. by doing both of those things, that then opens up a lot of space on the ground for yemeni tribes men and clerics to take the fight to al qaeda. it s only those individuals with the standing in the society who are in a position to disrupt, dismantle and tee feet al qaeda. now gregory, before we let you go, i want to get your thoughts on the question did an 8-year-old spy for the united states and the answer in the atlantic in the article is not directly. the article is murky i think because the situation is so murky. you talk in there about how some al qaeda sources are more truthful than the yemeni military. there s a propaganda element. give us the cliff notes before we let you go. this is a case where the u.s. was after an individual. the member happens to be a member of al qaeda and a yemeni member. they utilized a little boy. the little boy planted chips on this individual whom he had come to think of as his surrogate father. the day after president obama won re-election on november 7th, 2012, there was a drone strike that killed this individual that the boy was living with. al qaeda later found out about this information, kidnapped the boy and his biological father and executed his biological father. fascinatinfascinating. wow. . gregory johnson, thank you for your reporting. up next, we are going to turn back to news at home. a cross between a teddy bear and a hat. yes krystal agrees with newt gingrich on some aspects of the health care law. what? 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