From wednesdays shooting spree in paris are still on the loose. They rare cherif and said kouachi. Police say the suspects are armed and dangerous. Cherif kouachi was convicted on a terrorism charge in 2008 and sentenced to over a year in prison. He was part of a cell enlisting french nationals to go fight americans in iraq. A third suspect surrendered Late Wednesday at a Police Station near the frenchbelgian border. He is reportedly cooperating with the authorities. The parents of the brothers were questioned on wednesday. A total of nine people have been detained over the course of the investigation. Two masked attackers with machine guns robbed a gas station northeast of paris today. Witnesses say the robbers matched the description of the two remaining terror suspects. They stole food and gasoline. New video today showed Antiterror Police marching into the town of le point near the gas station. It is roughly an hour and a half drive northeast of paris. Police are also reportedly searching a 51 squaremile forest near the town. Nbcs steve handleselsman has the latest on the reaction here in the United States. Reporter the terrorist soldierlike precision is alarming experts in the u. S. They theorize the cherif and the other were trained at home by isis or al qaeda. And so this is kind of the highend of the new genre of attacks im afraid that well see for some time now. Reporter maybe some lawmakers fear in america. We have a situation where citizens of the European Union can come more freely to the u. S. And unless thats tightened up, thats a danger back here at home. In philadelphia pulitzer prizewinning cartoonist sydney wilkinson said she will not stop drawing prophets. Dont do stupid things in the name of your prophet. Security was tighter at french government offices. As the eiffel tower lights went off and back on to honor the dead and defy the extremists. The Justice Department asked today that attorney general eric holder will travel to paris on sunday. Holder will attend an International Meeting where he will discuss terrorist threats, foreign fighters and countering extremism. This is a rapidly developing story in france. The search is still on for those perpetrators who will bring you any of the details and updates as we get them. For more let me bring in nbc news correspondent ron allen in paris tonight. Ron, good to have you with us. Whats the latest from french authorities . They have apprehended nine people in this investigation, what do you make of that . Theyre rounding up a lot of people. The parents of the two suspects have been questioned and that happened yesterday and theyre on a trail and as you pointed out in the lead there is a lot of territory to cover and potential places where these two alleged perpetrators could be. Since nightfall the last number of hours or so weve had much less information coming from the north of paris where this extensive man hunt has been going on now for some time. So were not really hearing a lot and of course thats for obvious reasons and theyre not trying to tip their hands about what they know and dont know of course. Its been a day of very fastmoving events and a lot of uncertainty, i think, is fair to say. A lot of anxiety, as well and a lot of concern about where this all is going. This morning the country woke up to word that a policewoman had been killed in another attack. So there are three suspects who are on the run who police are looking for and theyve also said that those two incidents, the attack at the magazine and the attack that killed the policewoman this morning apparently are not related. What the motivations of that person was are unclear at this hour. So not a lot that we know thats very hard about how close they are and things have gotten much more difficult for authorities after dark. So theyre going through these neighborhoods, house by house, heavily armed s. W. A. T. Units and these two men are believed to be armed and very dangerous. Theyre also very well known to french authorities and thats perhaps not a surprise because this country unlike the United States has a much more has a much more serious problem with young men going off to fight the wars in syria and iraq in reesence years than we have in the United States. So there is a community of these individuals. There are as many as a thousand or more here and theyve been trying to keep track of them. Theyve been trying to keep track of these brothers and one of them as far back as 2005 and they cant do it. It takes several officers to maintain 24 7 surveillance on the suspects and right now theyre, of course trying to do that, they said with several hundred individuals who are perhaps the most suspicious and the most likely to perhaps act out in a similar way, perhaps. So a lot of uncertainty here. Tomorrow security will be stepped up even further. Theyre talking about some 88,000 security personnel in and around paris, at sensitive sites and the military is involved in this and you mentioned eric holder is coming here over the weekend and the borders are sealed because, of course thats a concern. The 18yearold, the possible driver of the car, it is unclear whether he was or was not involved. Hes put forth an alibi that said he was in school and some people have apparently spoken up for him and that happened up near the border with belgium which is quite a distance from here. There is a lot theyre trying to cover and keep track of. At this point it is unclear if theyre making progress or not. Ron allen reporting from paris. Thanks so much for that report. Appreciate it. Let me bring in Michael Ohanlon senior policy fellow for the Brookings Institute and heather holbrooke, project director for a new america. Based on that report folks, what we have just heard, 88,000 security people are going to be displaced across the country of france. Michael, are they expecting another attack and the fact that theyve got nine people who have been detained in the investigation and that certainly suggests there is some kind of network out there working with these suspects. What about that . First of all, they have to assume there might be another attack. No one knows. No one knows what is in the psychologies of these numbers and if we think back to our own boston bombers, they were intending to go to new york and wreak more havoc there after the tragic attack two years ago and there is no reason to rule it out. I would have to rule it out that there is a better part of caution that there would be another attack and france is doing what its doing. It has to. As to the size of the network, it does appear that various kinds of linkages to syria and iraq and cells that have been affiliated with syria and iraq are part of what is motivating and part of what is informing the actions of these brothers and i have no idea how many are involved. Sometimes theyre relatively small and sometimes theyre bigger but the number nine you just mentioned and not surprising in terms of what might be the network here and its probably as your correspondent just said one element in a broader population of jihadists in france thats in the many hundreds if not the thousands, but French Police cannot watch them all of the time. This is a new genre for terrorism and what precautions and what procedures might change for us . I think the first thing to think about, ed is whats going on right now and the reason you have the 88,000 Security Force in france is not even so much that there may be another attack plan side that these guys are still on the loose and seem very willing to kill anyone they come up against. So for americans to imagine a little bit of what people in france are going through, there are guards stationed at every entrance and exit around the paris beltway in case they try assuming these are the right two people and they try to come back into paris. As a resident of washington ive been imagining what if the whole beltway was shut down and in some way, as michael said no this isnt a new genre of attack and it is much more professionally done which is worrisome. As we saw in boston it is a small number of people supported or not and i have no idea by a portion of the country, supported or not by some field. They claimed they yelled something about being connected to al qaeda in yemen, but we have as yet no way of identifying that. One of the brothers has in the past been linked to fighters against u. S. Forces and French Forces in iraq but very early days on that too. The lethality is new and the connection s connections the apparent level of professionalization is new and thats a worry, but france in particular as your correspondent said has faced this kind of problem for years and the challenge that we have as americans would be okay there are several things that are importantly different about the u. S. That have made these kinds of attacks, harder less likely and less lethal when they happen but that doesnt mean that groups like isis and al qaeda and prop gandists affiliated with them arent eager to make those attacks happen and make us frightened into thinking they will happen. Michael, how much more can we tighten the grip on society to prevent things like this . There is a great deal of pervasiveness going on right now that a lot of people object to but now when some will like this comes up when you Start Talking about the militarization of police you start to view it in a different light. Your thoughts. As i was listening to heathers very wise comments i was thinking yes, these attacks are professional and they reminded me of many of the massacres weve had in the United States in the last few years that have typically had about the same number of fatalities and sometimes more. Virginia tech had more. Newtown had more. These are sort of like the colorado tragedies that weve seen in term of the number of fatalities. When you have an ak47 in your hands it doesnt take a whole lot of planning and expertise to kill a whole lot of people and that has a sobering message which seems that the abundance with this weaponry including our own theres a potential for a deranged and brutal individual to do this on their own or with very limited preparation and support as heather was underscoring. I dont think, however that were likely to see, we have enough tragedy in the United States and we have enough of our own homegrown Mass Shootings and its hard for jihadists who have been in syria or iraq or wherever to get into the United States. Its not impossible, but its hard and so i still think that americans. We have enough problem as it is and i dont think people should view this as an order of magnitude more severe than what the gun violence we have in the United States. Its probably less. I would venture to say americans are more on edge now than they were last week that if yoi have a former Bush Administration official who worked in security and intelligence say that this is a new genre of a terror attack, people are going to start wondering, well what the heck does that mean for us . Is this what well start seeing . Are these networks happening . Lets go back to the fact that there was a robbery outside of france and if it was done by the suspects, doesnt that lend us some type of indication that if theyre stealing gas and food that they might not be as organized and supported as we might think . That is somewhat of a move of desperation. Health heather, your thoughts . On the morning of the actual attack they didnt know what building they were going to and although they seemed to know that Charlie Hebdo was having a staff meeting and who would be there they went to the wrong building first and had to take someone at gunpoint to take them to the right place. So, yeah its important as michael said not to kind of overstate how prepared these guys are, how terrifying they are and, you know ed back to your point of what we can do here its worth remembering that france has a somewhat more policed society than the u. S. Does already. So if france is deploying some tactics that americans arent used to having used on our citizens and they knew about these guys and they were arent able to keep track of them and that should give americans a certain level of skepticism that more police or more security powers are going to be the answer, and i do think whether its mike hayden and whoever else, youre hearing people Push Solutions that they were pushing last week before this happened. Michael ohanlon and heather holbrooke, i appreciate your time and for your insight and expertise. Coming up, well have more on the world reaction to the attacks in paris. Plus republicans are wasting an absurd amount of time on nonsense their first week in action. 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Stark reminder that for the most part the legislators and journalists and institutions that we jab and ridicule are not in any way the enemy. In this country we just take it for granted that its our right to poke fun at the untouchable or the sacred. Thats a right some people are inexplicably forced to die for. World leaders are unifying to address terrorist threatsen countering violent extremism in the wake of these attacks and thats what Security Forces are doing, but in journalism what is the response . Also with us tonight, michael didoro who is also the policy director at the center for inquiry. Gentlemen, we seem to have a conversation that has broken out across the globe. What is decent . Whats free speech . How far can we go . Dean, if i can ask you first, what are the boundaries . Are new boundaries going to be drawn here . I have some thoughts on this i want yours. I hope not. I hope people will push the envelope with their writing and ive written articles mocking isis and people will feel a sense of risk and its normal and understandable. By giving in youve allowed these terrorists to win on some level and its much too important to ever allow that to happen. Those who want censorship and those who are of the opinion that while these guy his a reason and they were motivated by cartoons and that stuff. I just feel like why are we giving murderers, crazy people and thats exactly what they are with the deranged value system. Its almost like some in this world are giving them an alibi for doing what they did. No one condones any kind of horrific attacks and murder and execution and what it is. So why would we even go down the road of even saying well gosh we have to watch what we put out there. In a free society we should be able to say and do whatever we want and the free market will take care of it as far as commerce and also decency. Judgment by the people. What about that . I couldnt agree with you more and im a muslim. Just so its clear, there is nothing in the koran that says you cannot depict the prophet mohammed and there are some things about not depicting any prophet including jesus christ who is a prophet to muslims and there are no penalties in there. These men clearly had a political agenda and had mental issues and well find out. Its probably a political agenda and they used the cover of islam to a are effectuate their plan and get support for al qaeda and isis and well find out in time. Michael, could there be more of an aggressive attitude by journalists around the World Opinion this could not maybe hinter anybodys ability or heart and desire to do whatever the heck they want to do. What about that . Sure thing. Thanks for having me ed i do think there could be a more aggressive response and i think it was troubling to see the Associated Press start to censor their images and i was troubled to see the New York Times write an article saying the answer to this, the answer to what you were talking about is the hecklers veto is to do more of this to publish more of these kinds of cartoons and to criticize religion and other ideas to be under cover and the more we do it the more it is an accepted norm not just in america, but around the world. Your Organizations Free inquiry was the first in the United States to public the gainish cartoons of mohammed back in 2005. What is your reaction to the news outlets not showing the Charlie Hebdo