Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell August 29, 2014

Mitch mcconnell. The clash in kentucky. Looking to unseat mitch mcdonnell. If Mitch Mcconnell were a tv show, we would be mad men. The same tactics that led to the shutdown. Trying to gin up their base. Thanks to you, d. C. Stands for doesnt care. What are grimes real chances . She has a very good chance. Alison grimes wants to make it about Mitch Mcconnell. We want a huge crowd for senator mcconnells retirement party. Thought that he would be ahead by this point in time. Its going to be an interesting ten weeks. Politics is the art of the possible. But my first guest tonight is trying to do something that is virtually impossible in american politics. Alison Lundergan Grimes is running for the United States senate and she is running against the minority leader of the senate, Mitch Mcconnell. In the entire history of the United States senate, only one minority leader has ever been defeated in a reelection campaign. The polls show Alison Grimes running in a virtual tie with Mitch Mcconnell in kentucky. Republicans are in a strong position to win back control of the United States senate and the vote in kentucky could make Mitch Mcconnell the next majority leader of the senate or it could make Alison Grimes the second person in history to defeat a Senate Minority leader in a reelection campaign. Joining me now for her First National Television Interview is the democratic candidate for senate from kentucky, alison Lundergan Grimes. Thank you very much for doing this tonight. I wanted to get right to the news thats on the front pages in kentucky today, and that is the release of audiotape yesterday that we played on this program last night where senator mcconnell is saying some things that hes never said in kentucky before, including if he becomes majority leader, a refusal to ever allow a minimum wage increase to come to a vote. What is your reaction to that . Well, its a pleasure to join you, and i think what we have seen over the course of the past year is just how out of touch Mitch Mcconnell is with the people of kentucky and nationally. Whether its Mitch Mcconnell saying its not his job to bring jobs here to this state. Whether its him claiming that the barriers for women have all been lowered but not all students deserve to go to yale or promising further gridlock if reelected. What this demonstrates is further promises by Mitch Mcconnell he will fight for the millionaires and billionaires in washington if reelected at the expense of hurting hardworking kentuckians. The decision couldnt be more clear. Mitch mcconnell wants to work for the Koch Brothers and billionaires. I want to work for the people of kentucky. It was at the Koch Brothers sponsored event in Southern California and a very pleasant, Palatial Hotel where they were having this conference on fathers day in june where he said these things. I wanted to play the tape where hes talking about, you know, no more of these votes on extending unemployment benefits, that sort of thing. Lets listen to that. [ indiscernible ] [ indiscernible ] alison Lundergan Grimes, what has senator mcconnell been saying about the minimum wage in kentucky . Well, these audio recordings, they go farther than any stump speech Mitch Mcconnell has ever offered. We know that hes voted against increasing the minimum wage 17 times, that hes been against extending Unemployment Insurance benefits and hes turned his backs on College Students across the nation. But what these tapes reveal is that if reelected, he wont even consider a vote to increase the minimum wage. He wont even consider a vote to extend Unemployment Insurance benefits. He wont even consider making College Affordable for students. Indeed, Mitch Mcconnell wants to raise money for the Koch Brothers, millionaires and billionaires. I want to give hardworking americans a fighting chance by raising the minimum wage. He wants to shut the government down, continued effort in that regard. I want to give the unemployed individuals an ability to climb back into the middle class. He wants to support wall street. I want to have the backs of our students. 360,000 students in the commonwealth who are struggling with the crushing burden of student loan debt. Lets listen to another part of the tape where he talked about how he would run the senate when it comes to budget bills. Lets listen to this. [ unintelligible ] [ indiscernible ] i have to tell you, what hes saying is very strange, having worked in the senate myself. Hes saying that hes going to do all these things in budget bills, that the president would obviously veto. And the only way to get concession out of the president would be to shut down the government, but then he says he will not shut down the government. So what he seems to be saying is a big pile of nothing, that im going to try to be obstructionist, but in the end, i will make a deal with president obama on budgets and i wont shut down the government. How do you interpret it . Well, after 30 years of Mitch Mcconnell being in washington, d. C. , kentuckians can no longer trust him. This is the same guy he wouldnt allow the farm bill to last on his watch and it did. He said he wouldnt allow the government to shut down and he did. Each and every one of us know kentuckians, those across this nation, we need a senator that can reach across the aisle and work with democrats, republicans and independents, to bring people together, to grow the middle class and put hardworking americans back to work. You dont do that, when you look a mother in the face, who rises at 6 00 in the morning to put food on the table for a 6monthold, working three jobs, telling her that you wont even consider an increase in the minimum wage. By looking a veteran in the face saying you wont consider a vote on the extension of unemployment benefits. You dont do that by looking at the 360,000 students here in kentucky and millions across the nation in the eyes and tell them you wont even consider a vote on college affordability. Listen, i dont think im in the minority. I believe the majority of kentuckians believe in these Common Sense Solutions how we grow the middle class and to get washington working, not just for kentucky but for the nation again. 30 years of Mitch Mcconnell is long enough. If you want a vote on increasing the minimum wage, if you think we deserve to have a vote on extending Unemployment Insurance benefits and making college more affordable, working with senators across the aisle, i invite everyone to be part of this effort. The nation needs to rise up with us. Join us on our website at alisonforkentucky. Com. And together well make november 4 Mitch Mcconnells worst day yet. Watching Mitch Mcconnell in the senate for decades, its been a different senator each decade. He, for example, used to vote for increases in the debt ceiling, no problem, under republican presidencies. Also during the clinton presidency, he voted to confirm ruth bader ginsburg. Now he moves to block virtually every judicial nomination by president obama. So if youre a kentuckian and you voted for Mitch Mcconnell in the 90s, its not the same senator who is working there now. 30 years of Mitch Mcconnell, and kentucky ranks at the bottom of every National Indicator out there. Indeed, washington isnt working for kentucky, for this nation. And the common denominator, its not who is in the white house, whether its a democrat or republican, or whoever he or she might be in the future. Its Mitch Mcconnell. After 30 years, hes the one thats out of touch. Hes the one that has literally gone washington. Hes the one thats so out of step with the values we have here in the commonwealth of kentucky. Hes willing to choose millionaires and billionaires over the hardworking people here in this state. I want to work for kentucky. Mitch mcconnell just wants to work for the millionaires and billionaires. It seems Mitch Mcconnells strategy is to link you to president obama as much as he can in kentucky. Is that hurting you in kentucky and what are your main disagreements, if any, with president obama . Well, Mitch Mcconnell wants to run this race against anyone but me. Hes tried to link me to every National Figure out there that disagrees with the interest of kentucky. But what he wont tell the people of kentucky and this nation is the gridlock, the mess hes created in washington. Its why the president is wrong lit ruling by executive order. The people of kentucky know that im a strong, independent kentucky woman who will do whats right for the people of this state. You seek to have the best interest of this state at heart and ill work with you. You will find no stronger opponent. Mitch mcconnell, again, he has no record to run on. He wants to make this race about anything but his 30 years in washington. His fail ee eed leadership, his backing of the millionaires and billionai billionaires. Alison grimes, thank you very much for joining us. I appreciate it. Thank you. Coming up, an Important Development in the investigation of the killing of Michael Brown. And later, what the New York Times is calling one of the strangest labor disputes in american history. It was in the boston area. A strike unlike any you have ever heard of was resolved today. Also tonight, well be joined by a man who lives decide that shooting range where a machine gun in the hands oh of a 9yearold girl killed a firearms instructor. That neighbor of that shooting range always knew that Something Like this was going to happen there. Can you pick me up at 6 30 . 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They released satellite images showing what they say are russian selfpropelled artillery units moving in a convoy through the ukrainian countryside. Vladamir putin continues to deny russian involvement in eastern ukraine, one of the main rebel leaders said that 3,000 russian volunteers were serving with the rebels. In an emergency meeting of the u. N. Security council today, u. N. Ambassador to the u. S. Accused russia of lying. At every step, russia has come before this council to say everything except the truth. It has manipulated, its a outright lied. Russia has to stop lying and has to stop fuel thing conflict. The mask is coming off. In the face of this threat, the cost of inaction is unacceptable. President obama also announced today that he would be sending secretary of state john kerry to the middle east to help organize a Regional Response to the threat of the islamic state. Though the United States will continue targeted air strikes in iraq against the islamic state, president obama said there is no Clear Strategy for dealing with that groups presence in syria. We dont have a strategy yet. Folks are getting a little further ahead of where were at than we currently are. I think thats not just my assessment but the assessment of our military, as well. We need to make sure that we have clear plans, that we are developing them. At that point, i will consult with congress, and make sure that their voices are heard. Joining me now is david corn, Washington Bureau chief, and msnbc political analyst, and michael mcfall, an msnbc contributor. Ambassador mcfall, to hear the u. S. Ambassador to the United Nations saying that russia is lying, actually using that lie in an open discussion at the u. N. Is absolutely extraordinary. It is. But i think it shows you the level of frustration that the Obama Administration officials have in trying to have a serious factbased conversation with the russian government. Her counterpart at the United Nations today finally did admit, oh, yes, there are soldiers there. Theyre just on holiday. This is not a serious way to talk about what i think is a major crisis and a major threat to european security. But ambassador, please explain this to us, how the russian officials like that, in forums like that, with real adults present, can say these absolutely childish things. Well, i experienced it myself serving in the u. S. Government. Its not always that way. Thats why i find it so amazing theyre doing it. Go ahead, sir. Because they can think they can get away from it, and they dont care fundamentally what we think anymore. I think thats the crucial issue. Before this crisis, vladamir putin, president putin and other senior russian government officials cared about what the west said about what different leaders thought about them. Right now i dont think they care. David corn, why doesnt vladamir putin just own what hes doing in the ukraine . I think right now hes trying to play it off a little bit on the fact that the United States may be taking a hard line with some of the european allies who are closer to russia and more integrated economically than russia. If he just came out and said ukraine is mine, there would be less room for some of the europeans to dodge the ramifications of whats going on. And also, i agree that he probably doesnt give too many figgs about western Public Opinion now, but he probably cares a little bit, which is why theres a fig leaf hes trying to maintain, even though its like a saturday night live character saying, im not wearing a tie right now. Hell say almost anything. His representatives will say almost anything to avoid really agreeing with reality. Ambassador mcfall, tell us what its like in an administration when there are two very hot crises running at the same time, one in ukraine, one in iraq and syria with the islamic state, and how the admi

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