Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell September 15, 2016

Conference is probably never going to happen. But she did issue a tweet today. And it included a letter from her Immigration Lawyer. And tonight Melania Trumps Immigration Lawyer will join us. And also tonight, we finally have been waiting for this a long time, we finally have policy news to report from the trump campaign, a new policy. And of course when donald trump announced his new policy, he just couldnt do it without lying about Hillary Clintons policy. Why not share your medical records . Should i do it . I dont care. Should i do it . [ applause ] we cannot afford to treat this like a reality show. Within hours of each other, both candidates have released new details about their health. Her physician concluding she continues to remain healthy and fit to serve as president of the United States. I feel as good today as i did when i was 30. Dr. Oz said that it was, you know, legit. He seems very fit. Isnt fit in any way, shape or form to represent this country. Yesterday i rolled out a plan to help our mothers and our families get affordable, quality child care. There is no policy on Hillary Clintons website pertaining to any of these issues. On her website she is guaranteeing up to 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave to care for a new child or a seriously ill family member. My opponent has no child care plan. You want to debate who is more fit to be our president . This is the last word on campaign 2016. As you know, its health week in the president ial campaign. And im going to save you some time on this whole health story about donald trump and Hillary Clinton. Here is all you need to know. About donald trump and dr. Oz. Dr. Oz started asking him about his exercise regimen and what he does to stay fit, to which donald trump said he makes a lot of speeches and that his hand gesturing is the main source of his exercise. Okay. Do we still have to call dr. Oz dr. Oz . Can we just call him mr. Oz . Hand gesturing is exercise in only two places on earth. In trump world and in oz world. If you want to see the rest of what donald trump said today to dr. Oz, you will have to check your local listings and watch tomorrow. Here is one of the tantalizing bits that mr. Oz will show you tomorrow. Lets talk about stamina. You use that word a lot. You argue the president has to have a tremendous amount of stamina. If elected at age 70, youll be the oldest person to ever enter the oval office. Why do you think you have the stamina for the job . Just about the same age as ronald reagan. And hillary is a year behind me. I would say just based on my life. Ive had i actually, and i dont know if this makes sense, i feel as good today as i did when i was 30. Okay. Let me just take a second here on the health thing before we get to the pause thing. The only way a 70yearold man who has gained more than a pound a year since he was 30, a 70yearold man who is about 70 pounds heavier than he was when he was 30, the only way he can feel as good as when he was 30 is if he has suffered severe memory loss. Total memory loss of what anything felt like when he was 70 pounds lighter and 40 years younger. And i guess that can happen. Hillary clintons doctor released a letter today saying that mrs. Clinton has remained healthy and has not developed new medical conditions this year other than a sinus and ear infection and her recently diagnosed pneumonia. She is recovering well with antibiotics and rest. She continues to remain healthy and fit to serve as president of the United States. Dr. Lisa bardack added she is in excellent mental condition. Hillary clintons excellent mental condition has been on display in all of her public appearances, not just this year. But throughout her public life, including her public life in arkansas. And that is the only real condition that matters in a president. The job having been done very successfully in a wheelchair by the disabled Franklin Delano roosevelt while among other things on his way to death in the white house, won world war ii. It is unclear if donald trump on any day of his life has ever enjoyed excellent mental condition. And were not sure that were not sure what that condition is that makes him say things repeatedly in public that can instantly be proven to be lies. For many families in our country, child care is now the single largest expense. Who would think that . Even more so than housing. Yet very little meaningful policy work has been done in this area. And my opponent has no child care plan. She never will. Donald trump then urged the news media to go to his website to check his brandnew child care plan, not seeming to realize that in a free country where you can check website, the news media can also go straight to Hillary Clintons website and find the child care plan that has been there for a year and a half. With that peach last night, donald trump delivered to the news media something it pretends to want, policy to sink our teeth into, to evaluate and help voters evaluate which president ial candidate has the best policy for them on a given issue. And so on page one of the New York Times today, a Campaign Policy story was there above the fold for a change. A trump policy story. Donald trump unveils plan to expand aid to parents. And right here on the front page, it said this. But in selling his case, mr. Trump stretched the truth, saying that his democratic rival Hillary Clinton has no such plan of her own and, quote, never will, end quote. Stretched the truth. What happens to the truth when you stretch it . Do you still have the truth and its just stretched . We know what the New York Times was trying to do there. Theyre trying to point out that donald trump was lying without saying the word lie or lying because the style manual of the New York Times doesnt like that word, especially when applied to a politician oin a campaign talking about policy. So the New York Times stretched the truth. And called a lie a stretching of the truth. No form of the word truth belongs in that sentence in the New York Times. They could have saved letters, stretched the truth takes 19 spaces. They could have said mr. Trump lied and used only four spaces. They could have saved ink. They could have told a very clear truth to their readers. Donald trump could not talk about his own brandnew policy without lying outright about Hillary Clintons policy. That is a hugely important point about a candidate. That in and of itself is something we have never seen in any previous president ial candidate. But every day, in every way that it can, the news media discounts and diminishes and normalizes the wild out of control impulsive reckless lies of donald trump. The day after day in this election, they keep doing it. And the day and the day after the election this year, we can only hope that these style monitors at the New York Times and other news organizations around the country are very, very proud of the new language that they created for covering the trump for president campaign. The new language this which they stretched the truth about what donald trump has done as a candidate, has said as a candidate. The new language in which a lie is not called a lie. They believe that their language is carefully chosen to avoid any hint of bias, any hint of unfairness. But unfairness to what . How can calling a liar a liar be unfairness to a liar . Phrases like stretched the truth in reporting like that in the New York Times are unfair to the truth. Here is how policy is made in the last days of the trump campaign. My daughter ivanka is going to be involved. She is the one [ cheering ] she is the one that has been pushing for it. So daddy, daddy, we have to do this. And its true. She is very smart, and she is right. But not smart enough to know that democrats in washington for decades have been working on this problem and have been blocked at every turn by republicans, including mike pence, who now presumably has completely reversed his position in order to support ivankas daddy. Joining us now to take a look at the truth of the trump child care plan versus the clinton child care plan, david cay johnston, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. He is the author of the new book the making of donald trump. And Donna Edwards of maryland. She is a Hillary Clinton supporter. Congresswoman edwards, you already have a bill introduced in congress on this subject. Democrats have been working in this arena for decades. And ivanka trump doesnt know that because in her comments last night she talked about how this is a completely ignored policy area. And trust that in your experience, ignored only by republicans in congress. Well, its true. Democrats, as democrats we have proposed expanding the child care tax credit, making sure that we can pay child care workers more for the care that they give to our children, making it more quality care available for children. And these proposals have been rejected one after the other by republicans in congress. And ill tell you another way that donald trump stretched the truth is in his speech he kept describing it as a tax credit when in fact on his website its a tax deduction, which really tremendously undercuts working people and middle income people who really do need some assistance with their child care. I just want the pause future a second, congresswoman, over the two terms. Tax credit, tax deduction. People confuse them all the time. Tax deductions are deduction off of income. Most people dont itemize tax deductions. So they dont benefit from that at all. And the people who do are certainly at the higher income levels. Tax credit is literally an amount of money that is going to be inserted into your return as a positive to you. Whether youre paying taxes or not. And thats where we get the earned income tax credit, for example. Poor workers who file tax returns get a credit, which is a check from the government. Its a totally different thing than what donald trump is talking about. It is. And donald trump is a businessman. He should know the difference between a tax credit and a tax deduction. I think he misrepresented that in his speech. It makes a real difference to low income and middle income families. Thats money youre getting right away. When youre paying child care, you pay it every week, every month. You cant wait until the end of a tax year on the off chance you might get something back. David, one of the reasons i wanted you on tonight is youre a tax expert. And so much of what donald trump is talking about in this proposal goes through the tax code. When it was first proposed, it was definitely a tax deduction. But now ive heard them use the word tax credit. With trump world, do we know what it is . Have they decided is this a deduction or a credit . Or is it a deduction for some people and a credit for others . Lawrence, this is the latest proof of what i keep saying. Donald trump doesnt know anything. Yeah. And who knows . Because there is no plan here. But there are some real policy problems to this proposal. If you give a credit to mothers, you end up distorting the labor market and encouraging discrimination against women in their careers. You to offer it to both parents. The amount of money he is proposing is bupkis. It is immaterial to the scope of the problem. And the idea that youre going to finance it through fraud in unemployment, im trying not to burst out laughing. That is absurd. Remember his first proposal was an unlimited deduction for child care. So if youre a wealthy young woman like ivanka trump and you have multiple nannies and you fly them around with your Children First class, you can deduct everything. Yet parents who dont pay income taxes because theyre so poor or dont itemize would get nothing. This is just not a serious approximately. And its the kind of seat of the pants nonsense that we can expect if donald trump becomes president. One last thing. Whatever people think of Hillary Clinton, she has spent her entire life from the moment she got her law license signed working to benefit poor children with health care, the chip program, with better schools, with getting disabled children a Public Education there is a lot of things you can say about Hillary Clinton. But nobody can reasonably attack her for not focusing on the welfare of children and most especially working class and poor children. Lets listen to something that ivanka trump said last night, which i took to be a deplorable insult to all the people who ive seen working on this issue in washington for decades. She is pretending that she and her father are the first ones to get there. She talks about the intellectual energy that hasnt been applied to this. Lets listen to this. Hardly any intellectual energy has been devoted to addressing the needs of families with children from birth to 4 years old. In particular, little focus has been put on determining how best to alleviate the enormous Financial Burdens child care places on low income and middle income families. Congresswoman edwards, did you take that an insult to you and your colleagues who have worked so hard in this arena . Well, absolutely. And frankly, the number of proposals that weve had for child care, for Early Childhood education, for investing in those who care for our children and for caregivers, its a shame. Republicans could actually put a bill on the floor tomorrow if they were really interested in dealing with this issue. And this is a serious issue. And there are people who have been thinking about this, not the least of which is Hillary Clinton. If you look at her website, in fact what you find is not only is she offering details about child care, but Early Childhood education, k to 12 education to make sure that young people are prepared in a nurturing environment when they do go to school. And so there is a depth to those proposals thats represented by her breadth of work over the decades on these issues. And, you know, good donald trump and ivanka trump. Welcome to our world, those of us who have had to spend 35 of our income on our children so that we can go to work. Welcome to our world. But youre new to the game. And there is a lot to learn. And frankly, i think that the depth of Hillary Clintons proposals really demonstrate to me that she is the one who is prepared to go and enact the proposals as president of the United States. And david, just a quick last word before we go, again, to taxes. Hillary clinton pays for her plan with real taxes on real income, raising the top income tax bracket. The Payment Scheme for Donald Trumps idea is incomprehensible. No, it is totally incomprehensible. We need to be concerned that the child care credit can morph into a subsidy for employers and help them hold down wages. One little thing we have here in rochester, lawrence, what may be the best child care in america. The cost of quality child care is this much more than the huge cost of the care itself. And if the trumps knew anything, they would know about this and how its been studied and established, how we got high quality child care in rochester new york for just a smidgen more money. Youre going to tell us that story on another night. David cay johnston, thank you very much for joining us. And congresswoman edwards, its an honor to have you on the program. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up, Melania Trump promised she would have a press conference to explain her immigration records. Instead she issued a tweet today from her Immigration Lawyer. That lawyer will join us next as our guest. Dont let dust and allergens get between you and lifes beautiful moments. Flonase gives you more complete allergy relief. Most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance. Flonase controls 6. 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