Access Hollywood Video. Jessica leeds told the times she was assigned the seat next to donald trump in first class on an airplane 35 years ago when donald trump was still flying on commercial airplanes. She said he politely introduced himself. But then after the meal was served and the trays were taken away, donald trump started putting his hands all over her and grabbing her. Here is some of her Video Interview with the New York Times. If he had stuck with the upper part of the body, i might not have gotten i might not have gotten that upset. But its when he started putting his hand up my skirt, and that was it. That was it. I i was out of there. The other woman in tonights New York Times report is rachel crooks, who is 22 years old in 2005 when she was working as a receptionist in a company
located in trump tower. Here is how the times describes what happened the first time she saw donald trump in the building and introduced herself. They shook hands, but mr. Trump would not let go, she said. Instead he began kissing her cheeks. Then he kissed me directly on the mouth. Both women said that watching the president ial debate on sunday was infuriating, especially this moment. Just for the record, though, you saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago, that you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women without consent . I Great Respect for women. Nobody has more respect for women than i do. So for the record youre saying you never did that . Frankly, you hear these things said. And i was embarrassed by it. But i have tremendous respect for women. Have you ever done those things . And women have respect for me. And i will tell you, no, i have not. In a Telephone Interview with the New York Times, donald trump said none of this ever took place. Shouting at the times reporter who was questioning him. Mar el lago in florida where she was working as a photographers assistant. Ray charles was performing. Tasha dixon, a contestant in the 2001 miss teen, let me say that again, Miss Teen Usa Pageant said this today about donald trump. He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or something. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked. To have the owner come waltzing in when were naked or half naked in a very physically vulnerable position, and then to have the pressure of the people that work for him telling us to go fawn all over him. And tonight robert costa is reporting from Washington Post that donald trump intends to make good on his threat to the New York Times. He says that Donald Trumps lawyers are drafting a lawsuit against the New York Times that could be announced at any moment. And nancy giles, a lawsuit that
still sort of seems like a he saidshe said in a way. But these women did tell people contemporaneously what happened. We also have a pattern of behavior from trump that is pretty clear. The thing about these October Surprise series that theyre not surprising at all. Right. Donald trump issued a statement tonight in which he said the campaign anyway said to reach back decades this, by the way, please listen to every word of this. This is so ironic in light of what the Trump Campaign has been up to. To reach back decades in an attempt to smear mr. Trump trivialized Sexual Assault. And it sets a new low for where the media is willing to go in its efforts to determine this election. Maria teresa, thats the guy who reached back decades sunday night to invite women from decades ago in bill clintons life to the debate. Tonight the Trump Campaign says you must never, ever reach back decades. Well, and he did it purposely
to intimidate and humiliate his opponent in the most grossest of ways. Because she could not control what happened 30 years ago that had nothing to do with her but her husband. Thats what is absolutely obscene. But what donald trump has, his hardest part is actually taking ownership of when he does something wrong. The fact that we have types of him, decades long tapes of him going on howard stern, degrading women constantly, even making fun of how he actually can interact with his own daughter can make us feel uncomfortable. This is a pattern. This is who he is. If americans want to vote for him, lets be clear. This is the person who he there. Is no plan b and there is no other donald trump. This is the person that we are seeing every single day. And most recently, lawrence, i think you saw he was at a pennsylvania rally, and he said look, you know that im a snake. You voted me in. You nominated me. So he knows who he is. And now he realizes that its women who are going to get him to the white house. I said this before. Its going to be ironic that now
we have Muslim American military family that is going bring him down. We have a latina beauty queen that is going to bring him down and women are going to bring him down. I want to read another piece of the statement because it is just breathtaking. He says it is absurd to think that one of the most recognizable Business Leaders on the planet with a strong record of empowering women in his companies would do the things alleged in this story. And nancy giles, this is the campaign that firmly believes catherine willies story about bill clinton in the white house when he was rather recognizable as president of the United States. Oh, yeah. If youre going with the unrecognizable guy wont do this theory, how do you explain what theyre saying about bill clinton every day . You dont. Because it doesnt make sense and it doesnt follow any kind of logic. I guess roger ailes could say the same thing about his network where he employees a lot of women and he is also you know, it brings up a couple of things for me. And i want to echo something maria teresa said. And thats how gross it is he tries to conflate his action was bill clintons. I am in no way condoning anything bill clinton did. But hillary is the candidate. And there is something kind of sexist about him kind of bypassing her and going to bill as if there is anything going there that can balance his reckless actions. Anybody that watches law order knows that if youre a defense attorney, youre going to defend even people that have done horrible things. So what is he trying to say about hillary . Hes got nothing to say about her, and any kind of actions she might have done that are equating to what he did. Everyone should be reading this New York Times piece tonight or tomorrow. But i want to read one passage of it. Because it takes you into the life of someone who has this kind of thing happen to them. This is rachel crooks. And its her boyfriend at the time who is describing what he came home to that night. He said i asked how was your day, mr. Hackenberg recalled. She paused for a second and then
started hysterically crying. After ms. Crooks described her experience with mr. Trump, she and mr. Hackenberg discussed what to do. I think that what was more upsetting than him kissing her is she felt she couldnt do anything to him because of his position, he said. She was 22. She was a secretary. It was her first job out of college. I remember her saying i cant do anything to this guy because hes donald trump. And anna marie, that is one of the looks inside one of these horrible stories. I mean, i dont know where to begin. You brought me back, quite honestly. I mean, i have to say, i am very concerned for a lot of women out there. Because i was brought back by that statement by something that happened to me when i was a young woman. I would be so shocked if the other two women youre speaking to havent had something similar happen to them. Something like that happened to me when i was young and i couldnt do anything about it. That is what happens to women. That is why this is so
preposterous that if donald trump wants to go to war on this, this is such a different animal than what happened with bill clinton. For one thing, as we are saying, bill clinton is not running for office. For the other thing, donald trump is a predator. He is a predator who thinks that his socalled celebrity can allow him to do anything. There are women that want to show thats not possible there are women that want to say, no it doesnt allow you to do anything, and im going to show you by voting against you. What i just want to follow up one thing with anna marie, and then ill come to you. I want to hear you all on this particular point that im about to ask. I want to go, anna marie, to this perception that mr. Hackenberg, that her boyfriend had at the time. It was his perception in the passage i just read that he felt that she was more upset, more upset by the feeling of powerlessness after the fact than the actual moment in his company. I think that describes
perfectly what happens for woman when this happens. In the moment, you actually have some physical agency unless its somebody a lot bigger than you, which does happen. But you can kind of turn away run away. Its afterwards when you realize you cant do anything about it and if it happens again you also cant do anything about it. This is toxic. This is completely toxic for trumps campaign. He will not recover from this. Maria teresa, please go ahead. This is the Silver Lining. People across the country are having these conversations with their husbands, with their spourks with their sons. These are the limitation. This is when you have to have consent. This is the only thing i think will actually bring to the top how pervasive this is in our culture, and the fact that no one is going to be getting away with it is i think fantastic. I have to applaud the athletes. The athletes have come out and said this is not wanter in the locker room. This is not acceptable. You actually see men coming forward and saying we have to stop this and making sure that women feel safe in their own
agency. I have appreciated that so much, hearing the athletes saying what we talk about in the locker rooms are stocks and bonds. Right. What the traffic was like on the way to work. And i also have to say how much i really hate that part of what is being said by his campaign is these arent matters that interest women. This isnt what is important. Women want jobs. Yeah, they want jobs, but they want to feel safe in the workplace. They want equal pay, and they dont want to feel like someone in authority can bully them or Sexual Assault or harass them. So this is one of the most important things i think, one of the most important issues facing this country and facing the world, frankly. So im glad that its getting out there and getting some steam. We have a lot of video to get to tonight, and a lot of ground to cover. So were going to have to go to a break in a moment. I just want to nancy has made the point that on howard stern, donald trump, and we dont have the time to play this right now. Were going to play it later in the show. Donald trump bragged about the fact that he owns the Beauty Pageants and the teenage girl Beauty Pageants allows him to
walk into the Dressing Room whenever he wants, to and he picks the time to walk in there that is most exploitive. And ana marie, we have that on video. Thats another donald trump confession on video that he is joking about with howard stern, that he never thought was going to come back to him in his life. But there is the confession already on video for what he is accused of tonight. Yeah, there it is. This is a pattern for him not just in the way he talks about women, but the way he talks about almost everyone. I know you have been very observant about this. Probably the other women on this panel have been observant. He exploits whoever he can when he can. He thinks less of people who are not as powerful as him. That means women, minorities, people who are disabled. He manipulates and controls whoever he can. And he thinks he can get away with it. I think the stern stuff is just another sign of him thinking he get away with it. He was so open with stern because he thought it didnt matter. He thought his power and his celebrity and his money would
allow him to say whatever he wanted. Go ahead, maria. He also and its not just women and minorities and people of color. Its also small businessmen. Right. Anybody he feels that he can trample with and basically get away with it. There was a piece where a man who sold him 100,000 worth of pianos and came back and said sorry, im just going to give you 70,000. The idea that he is above the law. He understands tax code enough to write these things off is really its not only unappealing. Wait a second, you have learned how to play the system so well that you feel you dont have to be accountable to anybody. I think that this 18month cathartic exercise weve been doing with donald trump is actually very good. Because we actually now can have conversations on when people talk about white male privilege, he is the epitome of that. Nobody else would be able to get away with what he is doing. Hillary clinton is taking the stage in las vegas. We will go to her as she gets into that speech. But i just want the make the
point, nancy, that donald trump has always thought this is funny. Thats what you see on the tape with billy bush. Its funny. He thought it was funny with howard stern. And its not funny. To echo what ana marie just said, not only it is not funny, but its rude. Its disgusting. And he has gotten away with it. Thats the thing. He continues to get away with it. So i think it encourages him to exhibit the same behavior as he gets way with it again and again and again. And it is not locker room talk. As if even if it was just talk, it wasnt a painful, horrible thing to lobby at someone. But locker rooms across the country have said nahah, we dont talk about that. I was in a lot of sports. I have never heard anybody, and i know a bunch of crude guys. And i have never heard anybody brag about Sexual Assault, ever, nothing like what that guy was talking about on that bus. And the Rush Limbaugh today discovered that the problem and he really did discover this today. He said the problem is consent. Ana marie, he said the only thing liberals care about in terms of Sexual Behavior is consent, that liberals are okay with Everything Else, as long as its consenting adults. And Rush Limbaugh didnt realize that yes, that is correct that is precisely the position. As rush is thinking there are all these other things that should be condemned like homosexuality and all these other things, the only things they seem to care about is sent. And he was offended. I. I think and there is a Silver Lining here. I remember i actually heard rush
limbaugh say that live. I happened to be somewhere where he was on. He did say this in this astonished voice. Another person could read that same statement much as you did and its a statement. Whereas he was shocked by it. Its really stunning. Nancy giles, Maria Teresa Kumar and ana marie cox, thank you all for joining us. I appreciate it. Thank you, lawrence. Were going to continue monitor Hillary Clinton at that speech in las vegas, and continue with more of our guests joining us. I think he is a very dangerous man for the next three or four weeks. Those interest words of the reporter who has been covering donald trump longer than anyone else. Wayne barrett was the first reporter to take on the myth of donald trump in the Village Voice way back in the 1970s. Donald trump tried to stop Wayne Barrett every way he could think of, including trying to bribe him and threaten him. But Wayne Barrett stayed on the trump beat and paved the way for so much of the Investigative Journalism that has been done on
donald trump since then. Were joined now exclusively by Wayne Barrett, the author of trump the greatest show on earth, the deals, the down fall, the reinvention. Also joining us david corn and msnbc political analyst. Wayne, ive been wanting to talk to you about this for a long time. And just the simple question. As donald trump said or done anything in the last year of this campaign that has surprised you . Grabbing the pussy surprised me. Even those words come out of his mouth. And i was a little stunned by that, lawrence. Its great to be here with you. Certainly the stories of today do not surprise me. This ability to roam the earth looking for someone to grab is not surprising at all, but saying i grabbed them by the pussy, that surprised me. And wayne, you knew him and were covering him before his big rise to fame, and certainly before he had his own tv show. Do you sense that giving donald trump his own tv show, that was a kind of heroin for him, that it took all of his worst traits and amplified them . Yes. I think his worst trait obviously he objectifies women. But what he really has done is objectify himself. Thats why he talks about himself like trump. Trump did this, trump did that. The process of objectifying yourself is totally connected to the camera. Because thats his thats his lifeline. And i really think that one of the reasons he tweets at 3 00 a. M. Is because there is no camera around to talk to. So the camera has become the camera has become his lifeline. And he has turned himself into an object, which is basically the great story of his life. D its its as if he is so disconnected from Human Emotion other than anger, he is so disconnected from human any form, including the children. I mean Art Of The Deal he mentions them once in his first memoir. Tony schwartz who wrote it said they were never around and he never talked about them and never interacted with them. Of course they didnt live with them. Ivanka was 8 when they moved out. And yet he gets great credit for raising these kids. But t