Well, cher is going to join us tonight. She was part of the big protest in new york city. She will report what it was like to be there sometime tonight or tomorrow morning, something much more important than an inaugural speech will take place. It will be the Nuclear Moment the moment people in this country and around the world have been fearing. He trump era in washington has begun. We will see something so amazing. If 65 democrats boycott his inauguration hell get the idea hes not loved. We have by far the highest iiq of any cabinet ever assembled. After being briefed by so many in the department i am sorry for recommending the elimination. Billionaires and bankers that have conflicts of interest and ethical lapses as far as the eye can see. The good news is theres more of us than there are of them they think that you are going to lay down. We patriots will stand united for our rights and we are the majority. We are the majority. That is Michael Moore leading a resistance protest in new york city on the eve of the inauguration. Another poll shows donald trump has hit record low Approval Ratings. A cbs poll shows 32 of people have a favorable opinion of donald trump, less than onethird of the country has a favorable opinion of donald trump as he is about to take the oath of office. As we have said so often with donald trump, america has never seen anything like this. America has never greeted an incoming president with more disapproval. Far fewer people now approve of donald trump than voted for him. Thats the exact opposite of what you have seen with all other president ial polls on the eve of inaugurations. And this, this night and tomorrow, this is when president s usually get their highest approval numbers and this is when they need their highest approval numbers because something happens to them, or tomorrow morning, that is even more important. That is much me important than a president ial inaugural speech. Its the single most important reason the president s need the confidence of the american people. Former Republican White House chief of staff andy card described that moment today to hallie jackson. The Nuclear Moment. At what moment do you think donald trump might have that moment where he looks around and goes, oh, man, this is really happening . There will be two. One is very private. Thats when he gets the briefing on the codes to the military weapons that america has. Reporter when does that happen timing wise . Either tonight or tomorrow morning. And its a sobering experience to go through. You realize that people will carry out your command, and they will execute. They will do what they are asked to do. So the world will know tomorrow at noon when they see donald trump raise his right hand that in his pocket is the biscuit, thats the nickname for the card with verification codes for Nuclear Weapons. The president always has that in his pocket. By the time any other president has been inaugurated in the nuclear age, the country concluded that he has the temperament and judgment to be president. People who voted against barack obama didnt suddenly agree with him on policy but in his record high, 78 Approval Rating on inauguration day, was the selective judgment of the country that he can be entrusted with the awesome burdens of the presidency. The most awesome being that card in his pocket with the nuclear codes. Since we have never been here before in the history of president ial polling, we dont know how safe the country will feel tomorrow knowing whose pocket the biscuit is in. We have never been here before. A president who on his first day, in control of our Nuclear Weapons, enjoying the favorable opinion of less than onethird of the country. Luckily Donald Trumps choice for defense secretary disagrees with virtually everything donald trump has said about Nuclear Weapons during the campaign, and were also lucky that Donald Trumps choice for treasury secretary disagreed with him so sharply today. Its hard to pick the most irresponsible thing that donald trump has said as a candidate but its easy to pick the most irresponsible thing he said about fiscal policy and economics. He was the first president ial candidate in history, nominated by a major party, who said he doesnt think that the United States of America Needs to honor its debt. Do you believe we, in terms of the United States, need to pay 100 cents on the dollar or there are ways to renegotiate that debt . Look, ive borrowed knowing that you can pay back. We are in a different situation with a country but i would borrow knowing if the economy crashed you could make a deal. When you take out a car loan and you pay 200 a month, do you take it out thinking, whenever i feel like it, run in to trouble i can renegotiate the 300 a month. I can pay them less than i owe them. Thats the way that donald trump says he does business and that is what he thinks the president of the United States can do with the national debt. Just renegotiate the 19 trillion down to something else. U. S. Treasury bonds are always been considered the safest investment in the world because no one like donald trump has been near controlling them. And donald trump would be willing to destroy all of that credibility. He would be the first president in history to even consider destroying that. One of Alexander Hamiltons memory of this country is honoring the national debt. Donald trumps treasury secretary nominee understands the importance of that and so has anyone who has ever thought about it in a serious way. Heres what Donald Trumps treasuryecretary nominee said today about the deal of renegotiating our national debt. The flekts comments about potentially negotiating the debt were unprecedented. I want to affirm to this body on a Going Forward basis it will be your policy, as much as you can influence the president elect that we would never again question americas willingness to stand by its obligations. I agree with that 100 . Theres Steven Mnuchin agreeing with mark warner 100 . What will happen when Steve Mnuchin does that in the oval office, disagrees with donald trump 100 . Were joined by two people who might know the answer to that because they know donald trump so well. Tim obrien, executive editor of Bloomberg News and the author of trump nation, the art of being the donald. And pride winning author of the truth about trump. And joy reid, she hosts a. M. Joy on the weekends on msnbc. Michael, first to you, the moment in the oval office where someone stands there, as so many have done in confirmation hearings, disagrees with donald trump 100 . How does that go . I think he will cave. He is looking for other people to be confident. He wants to be this figure head that rolls his eye and tweets but i think in his businesses where he relied on lawyers and executives to take care of details he will reply on his cabinet and administration officials. Joy, you and i have never had a conversation about donald trump the way tim and i have. This is interesting. This has been one of my theories about that scene. Donald tmp knows full well that he will be the most important person in the room. Defense policy, treasury, anything. When that person disagrees with something that donald trump has said in the room or in the campaign trail, donald trump will go along with that person who knows more than he does. Is that the naive hopeful view of that scene . That might be the naive hopeful view. Im sorry to tell you that. I think that the reality is even if he is more ignorant than others around him. He will never fully own up to that. So the real trick will be, can people who are better managers or have more subject knowledge on any range of issues, whether it is health care policy, National Security, the debt, tax, et cetera, will they be able to maneuver around him . I think the answer to that question is it will depend on Jarrod Kushner and Ivanka Donald trump or as i like to call them javanka. They will be Donald Trumps first and last sounding board in the white house. He will defer to Jarrod Kushner a little bit and thats the relationship along with steve bannon that will be pivotal. If you are mitch mcconnell, just call jarrod. Why fight with the middleman. We have seen that donald trump has a habit of bringing ivanka or Jarrod Kushner to meetings in the sense they provide assistance to him and understanding in what is going on in interviewing the late Wayne Barrett or Tony Schwartz who worked closely with him. He has no Attention Span and doesnt like to read or study. He likes to have somebody around that he can interpret what he heard and make a decision and then he decides if it is sound and looks good. Thats frightening in a president. He doesnt seem to have a formed set of ideas abo anything. He just has his daughter and soninlaw and he figures they know how to make it look good. Lets listen to what Wayne Barrett said about what we are just talking about, the kids and their relationship to all all of this. Hes so disconnected from human emotion, other than anger, hes so disconnected from human any form, including the children. I mean, you know, the art of the deal. He mentioned them once in his first memoir. Tony schwartz wrote it and said they were never around and he never talked about them. He never interacted with them. This ivanka was 8 and he gets credit for raising these kids but they havent been close until they could make money in his company. Ivanka important people in the white house. They may interpret him for everyone else. People may go to these meetings an call them up later and say what do i do . Do i listen to this . He said two different things. They maybe the one to control them. That is not unusual. You could leave meetings with previous president s, we dont have to say wait a minute. An then you have to call back to the white house chief of staff or somebody else and say does that mean frequently, it doesnt mean what you thought it meant. Im pretty sure when lbj told you something you knew what he wanted. With donald trump we are not dealing with somebody that has to be kind about it, issue, knowledge, depth. He is more about being president for the level of respect he thinks he is getting from people over time. This is about him looking like the smartest guy in the world and being able to brag as president. The big, grave concern is this reliance on Jarrod Kushner and ivanka trump comes as they are connected to his business empire. I have talked to International Journalists who say their interpretation is somebody who makes is decisions based on what could make him and his businesses money. Thats the way that third World Leaders have dealt with politics not the typical way an american president operates. Imagine sh this is a rekouring phenomenon in the oval office. Imagine the thereforery of bad news to donald trump. How does he process bad news, an unemployment number goes where up where he said it would go down. Something happens in a foreign country. How does that work . It gets flushed in to that disposal, that emotional and mental disposal he carries around the whole time that lets him counterthe productivity. That is one of the keys to him being the survivor and also why he cant respond creatively or in a sophisticated strategic way. At the end of the day it is Performance Art for the president elect. Its very much about his attention not execution. Thank you for bringing us to this brink of what will the Trump Presidency be like. The guess work is over and we can now watch. Enjoy. Stick around. We will need you later. Coming up, Michael Flynn had one job to get the National Security council ready. Its not ready. Guess whos going to be the secretary of state tomorrow, guess 0 who that will be. Secretary of state thomas shannon. Never heard of him . Youll lrn why in a minute. This is the silverado special edition. This is one gorgeous truck. Oh, did i say theres only one special edition . Because, actually theres 5. Aaaahh ooohh uh holy mackerel. 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So far, the seemingly endless stream of disagreements donald trump cabinet nominees have with donald trump doesnt seem to have gained enthusiasm for his choices. We have a lot of smart people. We have, by far, the highest iq of any cabinet ever assembled. Another flawless example of words meaning nothing to donald trump. One thing we have learned. If those words had any meaning, than what he just said is we are in possession of all of the iq data of every cabinet going back to washington and the results are in and my team has the highest iqs. His choice rick perry, he graduated from texas a m and the only reason i mention that is because where you went to College Tells us how smart you are. Went to this school of finance right here, in this great state, right, the best school. Best school, number one. Okay. Maybe the hardest school to get in to in the country. Best Business School in the world. Im like a smart person. For the record donald trump didnt go to Business School. He didnt go to the Warton School for finance. He went to the university of pennsylvania where he took courses offered by the wharton school. He has a College Degree and nothing more. No mba. Since donald trump in pure elitist fashion believes where you got your degree tells you how smart you are it is worth noting if rick perry is confirmed as Energy Secretary, he got his phd in theoretical physics from stanford and the first obama secretary steven tsu won the nobel prize in physics so none of us, not even donald trump should care where he went to college because the nobel prize tells the story. And he has never said im a smart guy the way that donald trump does all the time. One person, who would never claim to be smarter than Barack ObamasEnergy Secretary is rick perry himself who had to confess that up until now he didnt really know what the Energy Secretary does. My past statements made over five years ago about abolishing the department of energy do not reflect my current thinking. In