Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell February 28, 2017

About to say we got a problem and she said the name of the movie she saw but it wasnt my favorite part of it was she was going to be teasing him for going so slow. Right. Right. So the daily news has cracked the case and the guilty party is going to be on the cover of the New York Daily News tomorrow morning. Heres a look. Heres a peek at the guy who got it wrong. Oh. He apparently was in charge of the envel lopes. Well take it down. s too feipainful. Look, its his one moment on television on the cover of a newspaper in his life and the short of that moment is the better for him because he was the guy. He was the guy with the althoug right . Forever known for his one thing. Thank you, lawrence. It wasnt warrens fault. Lets let history show. An sol becomeabsolved. Thank you. Donald trump discovered today Health Care Policy is complicated. During the campaign he said repealing and replacing obamacare could be simple and easy and done very quickly. Thats because the only Health Care Expert donald trump knew this was this guy, his personal physician who put in writing the lie that donald trump would be the healthiest president in history. That doctor just made up that lie and signed his name to it. Thats the kind of Health Care Expert donald trump was accustom to dealing with before becoming president of the United States and that is why President Trump and the republicans in congress are trapped in a nightmare of their own making in their desperate and confused attempt to repeal and replace obamacare. And theyre trying to do that. That huge legislative endeavor. While the air of scandal and incompetence thickens around the white house. This budget will be a Public Safety and National Security budget. From talking to my constituents over the last week during recess, one of their greatest fears of this president is that hes going to get us engaged in war. Republican and Democratic Leaders in the house, they are split over how to go forward investigating President Trump and his advisers over alleged ties to russia. I dont have any evidence that would of any phone calls. That doesnt mean they dont exist, but i dont have that. We havent obtained any of the evidence yet, so its premature for us to be saying we reached any conclusion about the issue of collusion. How many people have to say theres nothing there before you realize theres nothing there . Do you support a special prosecutor on russia . Thank you. Is this all make believe . I dont understand what the president is trying to say except to deflect from the poor way hes running the administration thus far. Special prosecutor. Since Richard Nixon was driven out of the presidency by the work commenced by a special prosecutor, the words special prosecutor, those two words are the worst words a white house can hear. And as the Trump White House embarks on i second month, only its second month, the calls for a special prosecutor to look into trump ties to russia have spread from democrats to republicans. So today in the white house covered by clouds and scandal and rank incompetence, the most ignorant, incoherent, incompetent president in history walked into a room full of governors to tell them how he plans to bankrupt the federal government and by extension the states who depend on the federal government. Of course, there was no hint that the president understood that everything he was saying would bankrupt the federal government but all of the governors knew what they were hearing. The president was proposing massive increases in spending and massive tax cuts along with a new tax increase on some imported goods. A tax that the president erroneously seems to believe would be paid by Foreign Countries when, in fact, it would be paid entirely by american taxpayers. The president proved to the room his utter ignorance of everything thats happened in the world since world war ii when he suggested that the reason the United States no longer wins wars the way we used to is we just dont spend enough money on them. We have to win. We have to start winning wars again. Lets just say when i was in young in high school and college, everybody used to say we never lost a war. We never lost a war. You remember. Some of you are right there with me and you remember, we never lost a war. America never lost. And now we never win a war. We never win. We dont fight to win. Of course, when donald trump was in college, he was the only student there who did not know that we were losing a war. Every day that he was in college, we were losing the vietnam war. Donald trump managed to get a doctor to say that he had bone spurs that then allowed him to escape the draft and possible service in vietnam. Those bone spurs never inhibited Donald Trumps physical activity before or since the vietnam war. And his utter obliviousness to the vietnam war today surely helped convince most of the governors in the room that he was as divorced from reality as his speech was. There was even a moment in his speech today when he left his prepared remarks to announce that he, alone among americans, had just discovered that the Health Care System in this country is complicated. And that repealing and replacing obamacare is not going to be as easy as he thought. Well have more on that later in this hour. The president said he will talk more about his proposed budget tomorrow night in an address to congress but he did not actually promise more detail. President george w. Bush appeared on the today show this morning and matt lauer asked him about the travel ban the Trump Administration continues to try to rewrite into a new executive order. I think its very important for all of us to recognize one of our great strengths is for people to be able to worship the way they want to or not worship at all. I mean, the bedrock of our freedom, a bedrock of our freedom is the right to worship fr freely. For or against the ban . Im for an immigration policy thats welcoming and upholds the law. Joining us, david frum. Jonathan alter, columnist for the daily beast. Nicholas confesore, reporter for the New York Times and msnbc contributor. David frum, i want to go first to you on what president bush had to say this morning. You were a speechwriter for president bush. In his white house. Your reaction to what he told matt lauer about the travel ban. Thats him all over. One of the he made such an effort in his administration to establish the war on terror was not the war on any particular religion. And in fact, one of the weirder things that struck English Speakers as weird, used the term evildoers to describe terrorists came about to find a word in arabic that would not be sensitive to arabic and back translate into that english. That was him. That was the authentic man. Jonathan alter, the budget talk that the president gave today was the most incoherent budget talk ever given by anyone whos taken the oath of office as president with all of those asides that trump does when hes giving a speech, no real specificity. He doesnt seem to understand what the republicans in the house in the congress are doing as opposed to what he talked about during the campaign. Well, you know, you got to look at the people hes appointed and the bad news is he appointed a guy named mick mulvaney, a tea party congressman, to be head of his office of management and budget and the indications are that the president s budget is going to be an extraordinarily conservative document which sla slashes, not just trims, but slashes and eliminates many social programs. Were going to be arguing all through the spring, went everin spring about this budget. Tax reform isnt until august. Obamacare repeal isnt happening for reasons we discussed. Were going to be obsessed about this budget and make Ronald Reagans budget in 1981 which caused a huge storm in washington, look like a picnic. Listen to what some of the republicans in the house are saying about this budget. This is charlie dent whos Appropriations Committee in the house. He said the president will propose and the congress will dispose, well look at his budget but at the end of the day we in Congress Write the Appropriations Bills and i am not one who thinks you can pay for an increase in military spending on the backs of domestic discretionary programs which constitute 13 or 14 of all federal spending. And nick, the problem there is if youre not looking at discretionary programs, you is to look at the socalled entitlements. Really big items, Social Security, medicare, medicaid. Donald trump promised in the campaign never, never going to touch Social Security and medicare. Look, heres the problem. Trump is not an american conservative. Rig right . Hes just not. Promised to defend entitlements for middle class people, Social Security and medicare, exactly. The problem is to balance the budget or to expand spending on the pentagon on the backs of the epa, is impossible, right . Hes saying im going to have it all. Ill have the entitlements. More spending on defense. Im going to cut the taxes and regulation and cut tax. Its impossible to do. Did frum, is the ultimate move here going to be, yes, cut the National Endowment for the arts and cut all these things that republicans, some republicans have always wanted to zero up and eliminate . And increase military spending and just put the rest of it on the deficit . Just dont pay for it . Just increase that spending. Well, Donald Trumps essential business method was to borrow money and not pay it back. Which can be a very powerful, wealthcreating effect for the individual and hes often recommended that approach to the United States. That the United States could borrow money and not pay it back. And so i think that probably is the plan. You know, the traditional republican answer has been that you can there are a lot of ways to find savings inside medicare without changing the nature of the benefits, but by squeezing providers. That means you have to get into the actual details of program administration, you have to think about how the Health Care Delivery system in the United States works and as we learned today, it turns out its complicated. Yeah. Heres more from politico. This is republican congressman steve womack and he says trying to solve for a deficit in the hundreds of billions of dollars cannot be accomplished through deeper cuts in discretionary programs without terrific harm to both the economy and a lot of innocent people. And jonathan, thats not what you will hear from most republicans. Theyll leave out the part about possible harm to the economy or innocent people. But if theyre honest about the numbers they will just point out mathematically the numbers dont exist in Discretionary Spending to try to do this kind of thing. Right. They dont care about deficits when a republican is in the white house. Remember when george w. Bush was in the white house, kidick chen said, quote, deficits dont matter. They ochnly care about irresponsible spending when democrats are in the white ho e house. Expect them to run up the numbers. Call what they call rosy scenarios of Economic Growth that will somehow take care of these deficit problems and theyre also, remember, they only have a twovote margin in the senate, so it doesnt require a lot of defections for them to just get slam dunked on all of these things and the president s Political Capital is rapidly depleting. But nick, i remember a president ial candidate running against the National Debt and running against the deficit that adds to the National Debt and his name was donald trump. Well, you know, politicians sometimes arent consistent really . Happens sometimes. George w. Bush ran on getting rid of debt, not spending too much, and he did, of course. In fairness, the george w. Bush, as a president ial campa n campaigner in the year 2000 did not see al qaeda coming obviously and coming to the World Trade Center and hitting washington. He had a war on his hands he wasnt anticipating as a president. When the time came, they funded that war and cut taxes. Heres the problem. Weve been in an age of austerity as it is for the last five, six years because of the sequester. Many agentries is already operating at the bone. You cant squeeze that much at the lemon to accomplish all these things he wants to do. But david, again, theres a long list of things that many republicans in congress would be happy to see zeroed out, and so its if you want to preserve the program, you could look at it and say, well, theres nothing else we can cut from it, but if you dont care if that program dies, theres more you can cut from it. Look, there are a lot of programs that republicans have ideological objections to theyd be happy to cut. They tend to be pretty small. They dont have a big budget impact. Now, they feel strongly about it regardless but they dont have a big budget impact. If you want to make a big budget impact, this is the thing that president obama wrestled with in 2009 and 2010, you have to the way to do it is to bring American Health care costs into line with the rest of the developed world. If the United States were spending on health care what these are figures youll remember. We talked about this five years ago. What norway or switzerland are spending, next runnersup in the world, you could have the Defense Budget for free. Jonathan alter, quickly, before we break here, the air of scandal surrounding the white house while theyre trying to legislate, what does that do, what kind of a drag does that put on the legislative action . A considerable one because washington can only do one thing at a time. And trump who is the master at distraction is now going to be a victim of distraction because when he wants to keep focus on, you know, cutting food stamps or whatever it is hes going to be doing in the next few weeks, the stories are often going to be about russia and hes going to have a problem getting his message across. John alter gets the last word on this round. Thank you for joining us tonight. Appreciate it. Coming up, Donald Trumps big Budget Proposal tomorrow night probably will not have much detail as he has been promising. And the pressure for a special prosecutor continues to grow around the Trump White House. Americans 83 try to eat healthy. Yet up 90 fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. Lets do more. Add one a day womens complete with key nutrients we may need. Plus it supports bone health with calcium and vitamin d. One a day womens in gummies and tablets. Why pause a spontaneous moment . Cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. 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Independent prosecutor and [ applause ] and Jeff Sessions should recuse himself the same way Loretta Lynch recused herself. Youre right that you cannot have somebody, a friend of mine, Jeff Sessions, who was on the campaign and who was an appointee. Youre going to need to use the special prosecutors statute in office to take not just to recuse, thats you cant just give it to your appoint appointee. You do have to do that. Congressman darrell issa followed that up today with a written statement on why he believes we need a special prosecutor to investiga

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