Pine. Price is going up. Thank you, rachel. Well, the resistance has stopped donald trump once again both in congress and the courts. And Rush Limbaugh, of all people, might be joining the right wing resistance to donald trump. Were going to build a wall. Build that wall. Build that wall. Build that wall. That wall will go up so fast, your head will spin. Im very, very troubled to have to pass this on. The wall delayed. It looks like President Trump is caving. We have plenty of time. A lot of time. I was hoping that trump would throw this shut down thing right back in their face. The fact that the wall is now off the table, americans should breathe a huge sigh of relief. Its delayed for now . No one said delayed. The wall is going to get built. The same issues stopping it now are going to be stopping it later. It doesnt have to be a physical wall. It can be some fencing in some areas. Its going to be a real wall. Its going to be as beautiful as a wall can be, but its going to be a wall. Theres not a big appetite for that. The wall just got ten feet higher. Boy, this week, the wall must have gotten 20 feet higher. The resistance to Donald Trumps wall has won again. The first person to stop President Trumps dreams of a big, beautiful wall on the southern border was the president of mexico, Enrique Penieto who in the first week of the Trump Presidency said absolutely no to mexico paying for the trump wall. The president of mexico refused to even discuss it and canceled a trip to washington to meet with the president of the United States. The president of mexico humiliated the president of the United States over a wall. Then last week, the Trump Administration insisted that at least a billion dollars in funding for the wall be included in the spending bill that Congress Must pass this week. The president s budget director Mick Mulvaney threatened his former friends in the house of representatives telling them they absolutely had to do it, but republicans cannot pass that spending bill without democratic support in the senate and the democrats said no to the wall. Ill caution, if the administration insists on poison pill riders or extraneous funding requests, then our talks could get sidetracked. Particularly if the administration demands funding for a border wall. Thats all it took. So what did donald trump do . Did he hang tough and take the fight to Chuck Schumer . Or did he follow the familiar President Trump pattern of completely surrunderring in the face of legislative resistance. Now theres no suspense anymore when you ask a question like that. Everyone knows. Everyone knows. Of course donald trump will cave when he faces legislative resistance because if he doesnt, he will be crushed. Thats his choice. Cave or get crushed. Thats what happened to him on health care. And now President Trump is facing a problem that he has never, ever had to face before. He has a problem with Rush Limbaugh. Rush limbaugh abandoned many of his conservative socalled principles in order to do what his audience wanted him to do in support of the candidacy of donald trump for president. Rush limbaugh does not lead his audience. Rush limbaugh very, very carefully an obediently follows his audience because thats where the money is. In maintaining that big audience, telling them what they want to hear. And so when Rush Limbaugh heard his audience support donald trump in the president ial campaign, Rush Limbaugh got right in line. You can just listen to him do it on his show. And now having listened to his audience for almost 100 days of the Trump Presidency, Rush Limbaugh is following his audiences lead and publicly expressing his disappointment with donald trump. This is what the beginning of the end will be for the Trump Presidency. If donald trump loses Rush Limbaugh, he will lose his base. Hell always keep some of them, but he will fall dramatically in the polls if Rush Limbaugh turns on donald trump. If Rush Limbaugh continues to talk about donald trump the way he did today. Im not happy to have to pass this on. Im very, very troubled to have to pass this on. And i hope my interpretation is wrong. And i hope this is not the case, but it looks like, from here, right here, right now, it looks like President Trump is caving on his demand for a measly 1 billion in the budget for his wall on the border with mexico. And just to remind everyone that mexico is a sovereign country. Theexican foreign minister agaitoday says that mexico would not contribute a penny to the wall in any form. And donald trump has been suggesting hed find some indirect ways to force mexico to pay. Of course, no such ways have been identified because they do not exist. And mexico is not going to go along with it. This morning, before the Rush Limbaugh show, the president tweeted this. Dont let the fake media tell you that i have changed my position on the wall. It will get built and help stop drugs, human trafficking, et cetera. And then when Rush Limbaugh said exactly what donald trump was attributing to the fake media, that he changed his position on the wall, which he did, donald trump panicked. Someone who probably looked a lot like sean spicer rushed into the president to tell him that they were losing rush on the wall. Imagine the panic level in the white house. And so during a photo op when the president lately has avoided saying anything, he very deliberately went out of his way to take a question on the wall so that Rush Limbaugh will be able to play this to his audience tomorrow. Will you sign a cr to continue funding the government the wall is going to get built. I will say secretary kelly, formerly general kelly is doing an incredible job. I was with him a little while ago and he saide definitely, desperaty need the wall. And were going to have the wall built. I dont know what people are talking. I watch these shows and the pundits in the morning. The wall gets built. 100 . Thank you very much. As i tried to tell donald trump voters during the president ial campaign. The wall is not going to get built. The wall is not going to get paid for. There is not going to be a wall. But donald trump has to continue to say there is going to be a wall. The question is, how long will it take for his voters to catch on . When Rush Limbaugh took phone calls about the wall, the bad news for donald trump got worse because Rush Limbaughs callers are the most solid wall of defense donald trump has ever had, and now that wall is cracking. Listen to tim from detroit, and this is a very, very important minute of your life to get an insight into the world of the trump true believers. 96 days into the Trump Presidency. Detroit, tim. Youre next. Great to have you on the network. How are you doing . Caller im doing fine, rush. Ive been listening to you for 20 years in my truck. I want to thank you for the entertainment and education. Donald trump, my son i took my son max toterling heights to two rallies. My son also worked the phones for donald. One of his main topics was building the wall and stopping this illegal immigration. I believe he will be making a grave mistake if he compromises on this. Now, wait hes not compromising on the wall. Hes saying hell delay funding until september. So as to avoid a Government Shutdown. Does it matter to you when he does the wall . Caller yes, it absolutely does because, rush, you know its never going to be a good time to do this. Ive been listening to politics all my life. Its the same thing. Lets kick this can down the road. Exactly. Every delay is a further nail in the coffin. Joining us, gene robinson. Senior fellow at the ethics and Public Policy center. Also maria tracy komar, an msnbc contributor. Gene robinson, Rush Limbaugh, 96 days in, were talking about nails in the coffin. Yeah. Hes right about that. Every delay is a nail in the coffin, but that coffin was sealed with super glue from the beginning. It wasnt going to happen. Just the logistics of building a 2,000mile long, 30foot high wall along the u. S. Mexican Border which is what he says hes going to do are inconceivable. It is simply not going to happen. And it never was going to happen. And, you know, very slowly, hes going to have to acknowledge that. Hell continue saying were going to build it. Were going to build it. But it just wont happen. My impression about this, having talked to a tiny group of trump voters over the campaign out there was that its not so much that they believed he would get the wall. Certainly they didnt believe mexico would pay for it. They just believed hed be ugher on the southern border than anyone else. When i listen to tim from detroit, he meant it. He was taking it literally. Theres going to be a wall, and he doesnt care who pays for it because, obviously, hes not complaining about mexico not paying for it. Hes now complaining about the president not being willing to fight for the money from congress. And to hear Rush Limbaugh and his audience taking a stand over this, 96 days in, it can only get worse from here. Thats exactly right, lawrence. This was his signature Immigration Program for his presidency. Theres not an american that does not know that he stood for building that wall. So the reperkugsss that will have to be large because hes going to start losing credibility with his base, with folks like tim. But what i dont think that trump realized was that his biggest resistance are fot just the democrats but plenty of republicans in these southern border states that dont want the wall. They recognize its bad for business and bad for their constituency. So he did not have this political calculus of folks within even his own party. Peter, you worked in republican president ial administrations where spending on the southern Border Security went up and hiring of Border Patrol agents went up. But they did not go about this crusade for building a big, beautiful wall from one end of the border to the other. Now were getting estimates about what this could cost. Homeland security sayin that the wallould cost 21 billion. Donald trump is insisting i could be done for less than 10 billion. There are Democratic Congressional estimates saying this could cost 70 billion. I guess depending on which description of it you accept, whether its a virtual wall or a fence or the big, beautiful wall. What changed in republican politics that suddenly it is the party of the wall or at least the presidency is . Donald trump tapped into some of the quarters, a negative sentiment. In order to pursue that, some people jettisoned a commitment to fiscal responsibility. So, look, republicans have hitched their wagon to donald trump, and they are in trouble because of it. I want to underscore, your leadin was exactly right. The danger here isnt fiscal for donald trump. Its perceptual. Its not only that hes backing away. Its how weak he looks. Theres a kind of trump twostep here which is, hes all bluster and then backs down. And what happens in politics is, if you begin to govern in a way that goes at the core of the narrative that people believed in, and if it begins to shatter that core belief, then the whole thing begins to come apart. Were beginning to see it. And the stunning thing here is that this kind of chaos and ineptitude is happening in less than 100 days. That to me is the most striking thing. There are already cracks in the personality as it relates to trump. Lets look at the scene this creates in the White House Briefing today when sean spicer was asked about it. I guess we dont have it. Gene, spicer is being asked about this today. Hes saying, no, theres not going to be a delay. We know theres going to be a delay. So to peters point, you have not only a weakness in the presidency but you are seeing this kind of comical inability to even find the words to address whats happening this week. And when your circumstances change, you have to find the language for it right away. And you have to figure out what to do about that word delay when the president says september is okay. Thats a delay. Thats absolutely a delay. And i think peter makes a great point because sort of the the mythos of donald trump, what hes supposed to be great at is making deals. So, you know, you stake out a maximalist position and you are really tough. The next step is supposed to be you meet somewhere in the middle hopefully closer to your point of view than to your counterpartys point of view. But trump said so far its a stake out of a maximalist position. And he says, okay, gee, im vi on. And i justont think thats going to continue to play. Thats not fighting for the issues he told people hes going to fight for. He fights for five minutes and then he says, well, okay, you know, well turn the page. His people are very forgiving, and they continue to forgive him, these transgressions, but they add up and they will add up. Its just inevitable. Lets take another peek over the wall as it were into the trump supporting world where Rush Limbaugh today told his audience in effect, coach limbaugh telling President Trump this is what he should have done. Lets listen to this. Its a golden opportunity for trump to giant foot stomp these people and end this crap of a perennial neverending Government Shutdown paralyzing anything sensible being done. Wipe it out. The Democrat Party is going to be wiped out now. Wipe out this press that the Government Shutdown shuts down life. Show people that life goes on and everybody prospers fine if the government shut down for a couple of days. Its never totally shut down anyway. Maria, theres coach limbaughs advice. I mean, i dont think he recognizes the United States government is the number one employer. He talks about shutting down, youre talking about more than 20,000, 30,000 jobs. So he clearly is disconnected. But i do think this idea where he says, well worry aut it in september, well build the wall then, folks know the republicans know that the closer you get to september, september is the eve of midterm elections. No one is going to want to touch that. No one wants to go back to their constituency and their base and say now were not going physically irresponsible. It doesnt its almost as if he has not had a taste of how, one, the government works, how politics works and more importantly in this case he doesnt understand the basic game theory. Its astounding. Just go ahead. Let me interject for one second. Republicans control the white house, they control the house and they control the senate. I even donald trump understands that its probably not great to be, you know, the first president to preside over a Government Shutdown in which the same Party Controls all the branches. That would be an astounding thing and would certainly indicate, once and for all, this party is not ready to govern. Peter, is there any move that the white house can pull off in regarding the spending bill that can somehow reverse the perception that this is donald trump caving to the democrats and the congressional system . No, they cant because its reality, he is caving. You cant hide that. I think what were seeing here is a massive collision of the Trump Presidency in reality. You know, he got away during the campaign with during theater. He was able to fool some of the people some of the time. You cant suspend the laws of physics and governing. In the end when youre president , youre judged on results. What were seeing here is that the curtain is being pulled away. Hes not a wizard of oz and were seeing that every day and every week. And its going to get worse and worse and youre doing to see an imploegs here. Peter gets the last word. Thank you all for joining us tonight. 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