Okay . They hate donald trump. And so, this was their front page headline today which was predictable for the new york daily news. Im with perv. Trump endorsed accused kid molester moore. Now, Donald Trumps other hometown tabloid newspaper, the New York Post, loves donald trump. The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch and under a clear editorial order to love everything donald trump says and does. Until today. When even the trump worshipping the New York Post ran basically the same headline as the daily news, im with the perv, trump backs roy moore. Donald trump is unique among american politics. He is the only one whos admitted and boasted about his preferred methods of Sexual Assault. He did that on the famous access Hollywood Video grabbing women any way he wanted including the most sexually assaultive way of grabbing a woman. So, it was no surprise to anyone that donald trump has sided with the perv as the new york tabloids put it because in trump world nothing is more forgivable or understandable or even worthy of boasting about than Sexual Assault. Mr. President , is aaccused child molester better than the democrat . Is an accused he denies. It. Look. If you look at what is really going on and you look at the things that have happened over the last 48 hours, he totally denies it. He says it didnt happen and, you know, you have to listen to him, also. Youre talking about he said 40 years ago this did not happen so you know. With the special election in alabama only 20 days away, roy moore has not dared to have a public event since last thursday. Campaign announced today that the Communications Director resigned bringing the Campaign Staff down to six people. Last night an interview on a conservative radio show, roy moore did his best imitation of donald trump. I guess we dont have it. Thats roy moore lets see if i can find it here. Roy moore saying i have great regard for women. I regard womens rights. I regard womens rights. That, of course, was just as much of a lie as this was. Nobody has more respect for women than i do. Nobody. Roy moore followed Donald Trumps example to threaten to sue his accusers, a threat that is every bit as much a lie when Roy Moore Says it as when donald trump said it during the president ial campaign. Do you plan to pursue any legal action with defamation against any of these people, the Washington Post or anybody regardless . Some people believe that shows that youre serious about proving your innocence. Were talking about the Washington Post. Were talking about the women involved. Republican senator jeff flake emerging as the conscious of the Republican Senate said this today. I think the president made a big mistake there. I think that he should distance himself from roy moore. Even if it means losing that seat. If the choice is between roy moore and the democrat, i would vote for the democrat if i lived in alabama. To paint somebody else as more evil somehow because he has a more liberal philosophy than somebody who may have been a child predator, i just i dont think thats right. And even if you lose a vote in the senate among republicans, thats better than being the party of roy moore. After President Trump reendorsed roy moore yesterday, republican strategist tim miller tweeted, i just donated to a democrat for the first time in my life. If any of you all want to do so, as well. Enough is enough. In an article posted today, tim miller wrote, roy moore is worse than abuser of children. He is an abuser of children whens also a hateful gig out. Deserves no cover and no seat in the United States senate and he never did. In this election, it is not a close call. On stengs is not an issue. Roy moore is a disgraceful by gotted deviant beneath our collective contempt. Joining us, tim miller, former Communications Director for jeb bush 2016 and a columnist for boss tom globe and with the Pointer Institute for Media Studios and david jolly of florida with us. Tim miller, you reaction to the president s reendorsing of roy moore. Clearly we understand through your tweet you went to the point of contributing but whats your argument to republicans who say i am going to write in a different republican name than roy moore on that ballot . Well, lawrence, on this night in 1963, john f. Kennedy was do give a speech where the purpose of the speech was to say that our duties not nearly to the preservation not merely the preservation of political power. And that is all donald trump cares about, is his shortterm political power and thats why it was so disgusting when yesterday or two days ago he came out and gave roy moore a clearly somebody that engaged in child molestation cover and so my message to republicans in alabama is this. You know, look much everybody has a personal option. If you feel like you need to abstain, i understand that. The reality is its doug jones or roy moore in the u. S. Senate. And roy moore is a child molester. One who on multiple occasions abused young women, as young as the age of 14 and he spent his entire career trying to undermine gay and lesbian alabamans and americans who just wanted to be with the person that they loved and all roy moore dedicated his entire career to was trying to prevent them from doing that while he was trying to court or date as he said 14yearold girls. This is a sick person. And so, for me if the option is doug jones, who i dont really know that much about and seems like a perfect replacement level democrat, or roy moore, a pedophile, it isnt really a tough call. To show how much the model of the roy moore defense so far in the campaign mirrors the Trump Defense in the president ial campaign, we have seen roy moores wife come out and defend him just as Melania Trump did in the Campaign Calling the accusers of donald trump liars. Lets listen to what Melania Trump said during the campaign. I believe my husband. I believe my husband. This was all organized from the opposition. And we the details that they did they ever check the background of these women . They dont have any facts. That is basically what roy moores wife is doing these days in that campaign. Yeah. I dont think its really getting her very far insofar as i think the people that believe roy moore continue to believe him and his wife bolsters that and people that dont believe them, i dont think shes convincing anybody. Look. Roy moore is at the point in the campaign where hes lost republicans of tim miller and that was an excellent column and i really you know, exhort all of your viewers to read that column. New. He just went through point by point. You know, hes lost john rogers his Communications Director. He lost representative joe barton who basically was himself exposed today for having sent out a nude selfie and wanted to point out its a consensual, adult relationship. It wasnt with a child. I mean, essentially, thats the low bar now that were talking about in the Sexual Assault an Sexual Harassment cases. Hes lost a large wing of the gop. And if were really just down to republicans in alabama thinking that this is better than having a democrat, i mean, i think we just go back to your covers that you showed of im with perv. Its extremely disturbing but i disagree with one of the earlier clips you were showing, you know, jeff flake when he says the president should do this, should not back roy moore, the reason he has to back roy moore is because if he doesnt then, of course, his own actions come into question. Hes saying roy moore denies it. The implication is i donald trump denied everything i was accused of doing with more than a dozen women and you should therefore believe both of us. And, david jolly, we have breaking news at this hour about your former colleague representative joe barton who indira was talking about. The Washington Post moments ago has added to that story with the headline, congressman told woman he would report her to Capital Police if she exposed his secret sex life and that is a story about congressman joe barton telling this woman who had these photographs that he is now very embarrassed about that he would engage the Capital Police to stop her from spreading any information about him and, david, this seems like something thats going to be headed to the Ethics Committee and the house of representatives. Lawrence, and you know this. Theres so much more that is going to break from capitol hill and the coming weeks as a result of women rightfully coming forward. And i dont want to speak specifically to a case i dont know a lot about but i know this. Listen. Congress is a place where a lot of different types of people get elected. Very good people but theres some very bad people. There are some creepy people. There are some freaks, some people you wonder how in the world did they first get elected and people that behave badly. A thing john boehner did is run them out of office and seeing more come of this. You know, what tim did in his column and jeff flake has done is very important because what theyre doing is giving republicans permission to distance themselves from fellow republicans and its very important in races like roy moore to give permission to republicans to vote for a democrat, to vote for doug jones and honor the principle of country over party. Republicans right now need permission to criticize their own just as democrats do, as well. As we learn more from capitol hill. Just want to if i could add to that, lawrence. Just briefly, yeah, look. Hers the thing. That is republican seat again in three years. Right . This is alabama. And so, hopefully the republicans in three years we can nominate a decent person and there are plenty of decent republicans in alabama. I dont think that voters in alabama need to worry that this is going to theyre going to lose this seat to, you know, prochoice democrats forever. This is a shortterm choice between two people and the important voters in this election are people basically like me and representative jolly. College educated republicans who are trying to decide between just abstaining and voting for doug jones, that can be the difference of whether a bigoted child molesters is in the senate or not and thats why doug jones is the clear answer. I want to bring you and the viewers up to date about this breaking news and the lead of this article. It says representative joe barton who apologized wednesday for a lewd photo of him on the internet told the woman to whom he had sent sexually explicit vid knows, photos and messages to report her to the Capital Police if she exposed his behavior according to a recording reviewed by the Washington Post. The woman spoke to the the Washington Post after the lewd photo was published tuesday by an anonymous twitter account. She shared a secretly recorded phone conversation she had with barton in 2015 in which he warned her against using the explicit materials, quote, in a way that would negatively affect my career. And so, indira, here we have a recording of barton saying that he would use the Capital Police to try to prevent her from doing anything that would negatively affect my career. And when you look back at the Anthony Weinerer case, nancy pelosi forced him to resign from the house of representatives basically for material like this. That was years before Anthony Weinerer committed a crime for which he is not serving time. Right. You point out, lawrence, this seems to have a criminal aspect to it, threatening someone. Not quite extortion but Something Like blackmail. Threatening someone with legal action. I mean, look. One thing you point out nancy pelosi. Democrats have been quick it seems to me in pushing for ethics investigations of democrats in Congress Like al franken, like john conyers accused of harassment. We have not seen the same solid front from republicans calling for investigations of gop people. I mean, i do think for the great part most republicans in congress have really stood against roy moore. Which is important. But again, as tim points out and david points out, we are talking about someone alleged to have assaulted children. Girl teenagers. So again, that is a low bar. I just want to say one thing about roy moore continuing today threatening legal action of his own against supposed libel, the press, the women making the accusations and this really is not real. Thats not a real threat. Thats a dog whistle to supporters trying to say, you know, im innocent. You know . Im going to go after them. And its threat to these women in the same way that representative barton was threatening women. This guy is trying to say, dont come after me because i could do legal action against you. Dont forget, the president himself donald trump before he was president used threats of legal action many times against the media and didnt actually go through with them. Its incredibly hard, the standard for libel in this country is very hard. Ever since, you know, the New York Times sullivan case and the supreme court. So i think its nothing more than trying to protect himself. It is not real. Heres more from the Washington Post report and remember now, theyre reporting from an audio tape that they have heard of this conversation. The woman says to congressman barton, how would you use the Capital Police in what would you tell the Capital Police . Congressman barton says, i would tell them i had a threeyear undercover relationship with you over the internet that was heavily sexual and that i had met you twice while married and had sex with you on two different occasions and that i exchanged inappropriate photographs and videos with you that i wouldnt like to be seen made public, that you still apparently had all of those and were in a position to use them in a way that would negatively affect my career. Thats the truth. David jolly, when you hear that and in the congressmans own voice and you consider that nancy pelosi told Anthony Weiner he had to go, is this a situation of paul ryan comes in and does the same thing that nancy pelosi did . It may be. And, lawrence, listen. Theres a difference offalability and criminality. We are all fallible. I certainly am myself. We are seeing two things emerge from the National Conversation and two important themes that emerged. One is beginning to see different degrees of offenses. Theyre all wrong. Every single one of them is wrong. Right . But theres a difference between the predatory nature of it, donald trump and a roy moore and the behavior of, say, an al franken and still wrong but a different degree of Sexual Harassment or Sexual Assault. And that is important because as the number of cases emerge, we need to assess who are the different degrees of criminality and fallibility and other thing to see and probably most important, we are seeing a variance of responses. We are seeing roy moore and as indira say yell fake news an attack the victims and the credibility of the women but were also seeing people like al franken saying it was wrong, i admit it, im asking for forgiveness and say to the women thank you for coming forward and i accept an investigation into myself. We need to see that emerge in the national culture. Men accepting responsibility. Joe barton has a choice tonight. Does he own this or not . David jolly and tim miller, thank you for joining us. Coming up, before hitting the golf course this morning, the president used his precious time to attack the father of a College Basketball player on twitter proving that president ial time is no longer precious. When you have a cold stuff happens. Shut down cold symptoms fast with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. We are continuing our breaking News Coverage of a the Washington Post report coming out minutes ago under the headline congressman told woman he would report her to Capitol Police if she exposed his secret sex life, that congressman is texas Republican Congressman joe barton. Joining the conversation now, eugene robinson, opinion writer for the Washington Post and msnbc political analyst and Indira Lakshmanan with the boston globe is still with us. This is the extraordinary report and began with a report that congressman barton with photographs out there of his genitalia revealed online. And i just want to reread the lead of the Washington Post article so the audience can process this. It says that representative joe barton who apologized on wednesday for a lewd photo of hin on the internet told a woman whom he had sent sexually explit sit videos and messages to report her to the Capitol Police if she exposed his behavior according to an audio recording of the Washington Post. The quoets from the recording are truly explosive. There is a recording her