Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell December 12, 2017

When he actually saw a black accountant working in the trump operations on accounting and saying he wanted all of his accountants to be wearing yamacas which was, you know, this trump vision of where the jews fit in his life at the time. Apparently after kayla moore said within of our attorneys is a jew, and then gave that priceless look, the next thing she said was, we have very Close Friends that are jewish and rabbis. So, i just i mean we can making me yeah, yeah. We get paid to talk for a living but there isnt enough money in the world to talk properly about this. There is a way to render us speechless. Yes. Roy moores wife has done so. Yes. Thank you, my friend. Good luck. Thank you. Well, alabama has not voted for a democrat for United States senate since 1992 when both of alabamas United States senators were democrats. The democrat who won his senate race in alabama in 1992 was Richard Shelby. It was his first Reelection Campaign for the senate in alabama. And two years latter, Richard Shelby switched parties after the democrats were wiped out when they lost control of the senate and lost control of the house for the first time in 40 years. Richard shelby just walked across the aisle after that Congressional Election in 1994 and switched from being a conservative democrat to being a mainstream republican. And yesterday alabamas senior senator Richard Shelby said this. I couldnt vote for roy moore. I didnt vote for roy moore. But i wrote in a distinguished republican name. Theres a time. We call it a tipping point. And i think so many accusations, so many cuts, so many drip, drip, drip when it got to the 14yearold story, story, that was enough for me. I said, i cant vote for roy moore. I didnt vote for the democrat. Or advocate for the democrat but i couldnt vote for roy moore. The state of alabama deserves better. And doug jones will take that because that functions as a vote for doug jones. Democrat doug jones has a very strong chance now to win a Senate Election in alabama tomorrow, thanks to steve bannon who worked as hard as he possibly could against the wishes of his former boss President Trump to win the republican nomination for senate in alabama for disgraced, twice fired, former alabama judge roy moore who now stands accused of being a criminal child molester who also preyed upon Young High School girls while he was an assistant District Attorney in his mid30s. Tomorrow is an alabama election brought to you by steve bannon and tonight at a Campaign Rally for Roy Moore Steve bannon said this. To Mitch Mcconnell and senator shelby and [ audience booing ] and condi rice and all that, all that little bobby corker, all the establishment up there, all that establishment up there every day that doesnt have the doesnt have trumps back. They dont have his back. At all. What they want him for is a Corporate Tax cut. You watch what happens. Theres a special place in hell [ cheers and applause ] for republicans who should know better of course, President Trump has said that the reason to elect roy moore is to deliver on that Corporate Tax break that steve bannon now seems to think is nothing but a trick being played on those voters by the republican establishment. Tonights doug jones Campaign Rally, legendary basketball star Charles Barkley campaigned with democrat doug jones. Heres some of what doug jones had to say. Im going to tell you, folks. It is time and i think were going to see it tomorrow, that the majority of the people of alabama say that it is time that we put our decency, our state before political party. President obama and joe biden both recorded robo calls for doug jones and theres a poll to tell you whatever you want to believe about this race. New fox news poll has doug jones up by 10 points and Emerson College poll done in boston has roy moore up by 9 points and a poll sponsored by Monmouth University in new jersey has the race tied. The fox poll finds that roy moore is losing the support of his evangelical base, 65 of white evangelicals say theyll vote for roy moore, a drop of 8 points in 1 month. Peter waner wrote an oped in the New York Times entitled why i could not call myself an evangelical republican. Assume you were a person of the left and the atist and create a couple of people to discredit. You could hardly choose more perfect men than donald trump and roy moore. An oped piece yesterday says that the outcome tomorrow is all up to the women of alabama. After conducting a series of interviews with voters in the home state of alabama, rains wrote, women are the rebels in the current election. All those women who are coming forward, theyre not making it up. A female civic leader told me over coffee. The grandfather presided over the wedding of mavany and otis bishop 72 years 0 ago and mr. Bishop told him, hell vote for mr. Moore and intends to sway his wife from her plan to support mr. Jones. No, he wont mrs. Bishop said. Joining us now, howell rans, former executive editor of the New York Times. Howell, thank you very much for joining us tonight. I learned more about alabama and alabamas history in your oped piece than ive read this alabama season. Tell us what you found when you went in there and started talking to voters about how theyre making up their minds. Well, thank you, lawrence. This was a great opportunity to me for me to visit my ancestral county, winston county, the free state of winston and the attitudes i found there typified whats going on in this race. The men are all solidly convincing one another that roy moores being lied about. The women are timidly not raising their voices but stating their opinion and in some cases i ran into one woman who said she and her pastor meeting about roy moore and both of them found him creepy. So, the erosion among women voters particularly in the republican suburbs holds one of the keys. Interestingly, shelbys remark today that he was writing in could be a factor because the jones people are hoping for about a 2 writein drain on the republican vote. It looks to me like this is most important election for alabamas future since the election of 1970. That was when George Wallace beat a progressive new south candidate and sentenced alabama to 25 years of retro politics. Its a chilly night here outside dothan but interestingly steve bannon and roy moore inside this barn serving up warmed over wallace dogma and they seem to think its going to work one more time. If it doesnt, that will be a watershed election for alabama because it will be the first time that its really stepped into what weve been calling the new south for about 30 years now. Howell, theres so many observations you make about especially your ancestral county of winston and you say winstonians tend to go to one side or another in a big way and they dont care what the rest of the world thinks. What do they think of steve bannon who you just saw at this roy moore rally . Because theres all sorts of talk we get about alabamans dont want to be told by outsiders how to vote. You cant be more of an outsider than steve bannon. Well, he was trying to stress that he was a virginian tonight and how proud he was to be an in alabama. You know, its interesting. Bannon has a certain Savage Energy and yet theres an air of condescension in the way he talks to the people he claims to be defending. Boasting about the georgetown education and then assures him he is one of those elitists who think the people of alabama are embarrassingly stupid. So its a the Moore Campaign and bannons appearances have been rather awkward. Theyve kept roy moore out of sight as much as possible. In winston county, which is rural county, i dont think bannon has penetrated the consciousness at all. Theyre fixiated on the sexual allegations and hurting moore in the Church Community there and hurting him even more in the wealthier republican suburbs in birmingham and montgomery. Talk about those suburbs far moment because in your piece you talk about driving through those suburbs and not seeing a single roy moore sign. Thats true. And the a cultural split in the Alabama Republican Party that mirrors the split in the national Republican Party. And contrary to alabamas rustic image the suburbs are full of highly educated and many cases people working in scientific and technical careers. And, you know, birmingham now is one of the most sophisticated restaurant cities in america. So, these are people who have some sophistication and for a long time have felt that they were being ridiculed unfairly by the nation because the state is dominated by the old wallaceite bloc and so this the hope in those suburbs, particularly i think among the soccer mom faction who have taken these sexual allegations very seriously, i think the hope there is that this will finally be a breakout election where alabama has a watershed victory for a more progressive candidate. It will also be a miracle and a tribute to doug jones that he is run a very Effective Campaign despite a virtually Democratic Party in alabama. Lets listen to steve bannon tonight actually joining in the lock her up chant and this is at a rally for a candidate who is accused of child molestation. Lets listen to this. Lock her up. Senator sessions, are you listening . [ cheers and applause ] this would be senator sessions seat, now wouldnt it . Come on, senator sessions. You got to work with us on this one. Joining us the discussion now, charlie sykes, author of book how the right lost its mind. And, charlie, theres steve bannon, hard to hear him and joining in the lock her up chants and calling on senator sessions, doesnt seem to realize that the title now is attorney general and does seem to think that he has the power to lock her up. Actually, calling on Jeff Sessions to join in this lock her up crusade. Well, this is an ugly and a defining moment that trumpism and bannonism brought the Republican Party, isnt it . Im glad that Howell Raines pointed out the legacy of George Wallace. This is not the legacy of Ronald Reagan here. This is the make wallace, you know, wallaceite politics great again and very interesting whether or not you do have the coalition of the decent turning out in alabama, soccer moms or africanamerican voters or republicans of Richard Shelby looking and going this is too far. You look at that rally tonight, and you see this collection of the deplorables and, you know, one would hope that it would be the high watermark of jubannoni but one way or another an ugly outcome for the republicans and donald trump. Howells been telling us about the sophistication of birmingham and i visited a couple of years and i know what you mean. I want to go to doug jones tonight appealing to that, birmingham and selma and montgomery. Lets listen to this. You know our history. It is all here in birmingham. Its in selma. Its in montgomery. I was so happy to be in montgomery on december 1st, the anniversary of rosa parks sitting down at a bus and not moving. And let me tell you. I was so happy because let me tell you something. If we have ever had a year of courageous women, it is 2017 right now [ cheers and applause ] im so happy before all of that happened that those issues were important to us. Howell raines, i cant think of a Senate Election with more of a stark contrast of the republican and democrat in a long time. Doug jones is a remarkable figure, not just because he was a successful prosecutor of planned murderers. Hes the first candidate in my lifetime and i started covering George Wallace in 65, whos candidly addressed the question of alabamas historic inferiority complex. Alabamans always em barrel raszed themselves by the people they elect and then complained that the nation looks down on them. And so, doug jones is trying to address that directly and i think has as i say this could be the night or the day tomorrow when a new alabama thats been struggling to be born will finally possibly step forward. And, charlie sykes, George Wallace cast a long shadow on this program last year. George wallace 1968 president ial Campaign Manager told us when he heard donald trump campaigning he was hearing George Wallace. Yes. Absolutely. You know, by the way, i have the go back to something you said earlier, lawrence, citing that column saying if you went into a laboratory and create two people designed to discredit the Republican Party and evangelical christians you could not do a better job than creating donald trump and roy moore. So, you know, yeah. It is this throwback to an uglier, darker era in our history, and, you know, from the point of view of republicans, if roy moore wins, in many ways, thes a worse outcome than he is defeated and would be an electrifying victory for the democrats but a victory by roy moore makes this what should be a local regional embarrassment into a national defining moment for the Republican Party in a way to regret bitterly in 2018. Charlie sykes, thank you. Howell raines of the New York Times and proud native son of alabama, thank you very much, howell, joining us tonight. Cant think of anyone id rather hear from whats happening there. Thank you. Thank you, lawrence. Coming up, a nbc news exclusive report on the questions that Robert Mueller is asking about President Trumps conversations. And an exclusive interview with former treasury secretary Lawrence Summers. He is criticizing President Trumps treasury secretary and what the treasury secretary produced today. The most shoddy piece of information on a legislation that the treasury has ever delivered. And later, one of the President Trumps accusers gets tonights last word. This is electricity. This is a power plant. This is tim barckholtz. Thats me this is something he is researching at exxonmobil using fuel cells to capture Carbon Emissions at power plants. This is the potential. Reducing co2 emissions by up to 90 . While also producing more power. This could be big. 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