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When Richard Nixon was being investigated by a Special Prosecutor and by congress, it was a special investigation in congress. While most republicans tried to look at the mounting evidence against president nixon as favorably as possible, none of them ever tried to say anything like this. Just remember what youre seeing and what youre reading is not whats happening. Republicans did not try to deny reality during the investigation of Richard Nixon and eventually it was a group of republican senators who went to the white house to tell president nixon to his face that he should resign immediately because the House Of Representatives would definitely vote to impeach him based on the latest evidence and the United States senate would easily reach a twothirds Majority Vote to convict and remove president nixon from office in an impeachment trial. Analysis and discussion of the days top stories and compelling issues from Lawrence ODonnell. Thats what you heard devin nunes say. If sessions wont unrecuse and mueller wont clear the president , were the only ones. So what theyre saying there is if the Attorney General of the United States abides by his oath to defend the constitution, and if the Special Prosecutor, Robert Mueller, abides by his oath to defend the constitution, then it will be up to them, the republican members of the congress, to defend donald trump against the defenders of the constitution. 44 years ago today Richard Nixon left the white house for the last time because there was no devin nunes in the House Of Representatives telling all the other republicans were the only ones who can save their president. It wasnt always this way. If the republicans who served in what i hear him saying is if the Attorney General upholds the rule of law and if Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller uphold the rule of law, it will be up to us in the congress to obstruct this investigation from coming to an ending point. And jonathan, there is much more that was said that rachel and i played last night in that meeting. But being able to hear the way republicans talk in private is a very special opportunity, as these tapes demonstrate. Yeah. This is a situation where things that we sort of understood intuitively, things that we know just by watching the actions that theyre not taking, we get to hear them say with words what it is that they are actually doing. That as you said so eloquently at the top of this show, they are putting the livelihood of the president , the presidency, their own standing because theyre all Living In Fear of the popularity of the president what shes doing, they know what shes doing and they dont like what shes doing. She will be fighting for her political life in november. Joyce vance, youre someone who has taken an Oath Of Office as a u. S. Attorney to serve in this government. As you know, there are tens of thousands of people in Washington Working In washington in the congress, in the agencies, in the departments who have taken an Oath Of Office. And, you know, i know it can sound naive to people out there who have either never taken that oath or dont know people who have and washington can seem like a purely political place. But every once in a while when people would ask me about how things would work in the senate, i would find myself saying when they were getting overly cynical about things and it is hard to get more cynical than i am, i would find myself saying, you know, even the most political of them every once in a while, they do come up against that oath because the oath was, when i was there certainly, taken seriously. It still moves me to say or read the words of that oath tonight in talking about it. And so i just i just wonder if you share my stunned amazement at the way those oaths seem to be completely disregarded by devin nunes and what he had to say. It is almost as though the words have no meaning to them. You know, in my office in birmingham, lawrence, when brandnew prosecutors like me, i was a Career Prosecutor before i was the u. S. Attorney, and when you took your Oath Of Office, it was special. We all went over to the courthouse and one of the federal judges swore you in in front of all of your new colleagues. But also in front of your family, your parents and your spouse and your children would come. And we would meet each others families. It was an incredibly solemn moment. I think it sounds a little bit sappy. Doj prosecutors dont usually talk about it outside of their offices. But people take that oath incredibly seriously. And you will find that people when theyre confronting difficult issues will use that as a touch stone to think whats the right thing to do because tomorrow ill stand up in court and i say i represent the United States of america. Same thing for people in the house elected officials on the hill. They stand up every day to represent the people of the United States of america. Some of them dont seem to take that very seriously. Yeah. And i have to say, i didnt know when i started working in the senate that i had to take an oath, the same oath that the senators take. Everybody working there does, the receptionists, everyone. So i was thrown into it without any real preparation that it was suddenly happening. My right hand was raised and it was instantly an emotional moment. You never forget. New nbc news Wall Street Journal poll. More likely 48 . Less likely 23 . That is just an enormous gap in favor of what obviously is the democrats in the way that question is asked. Right. That gets to what i was saying, i guess preemptively about Cathy Mcmorris rodgers. Shes not providing a check on the president. And, so, she barely made the top spot. In Washington State they had the socalled jungle primaries. The top two vote getters go on to november. Shes the number four person in the republican conference. So now she might not be there. If that holds out, if that poll number holds out to be true, she could be out. You know, back during watergate, back during the clinton era when congress viewed itself as an equal to the executive, an equal to the president. The president was one branch, they, the members of congress, viewed themselves as someone who was supposed to, no matter the party, keep the executive in check because the framers of the constitution set this government up so that the people, through their representatives, could ensure that the executive would not run over the people and over the constitution. And the republicans have shown time and time again, particularly when it comes to donald trump, that they couldnt care less about their Oath Of Office. That oath, i have never had to take that oath, lawrence, but i have friends who have. And the thing that makes it so emotional for you and for joyce and for my friends who have taken that oath is that they suddenly realize that they are making an oath to something that is much bigger than themselves. They are taking an oath to protect, not just the constitution, but their country, but their families and the fact that you have a whole branch of government that has just seeded that authority, that moral authority to a president who has shown time and again that he couldnt care less about the rule of law, its galling. Through that number that you just showed, 48 of the American People think its galling as well. Jonathan, joyce, thank you for starting us off tonight. Thank you. Thanks, lawrence. And now that republican congressman Chris Collins and his son have been charged with federal crimes, which one of them might get a plea deal to escape prison time in exchange for testifying against the other . And what is it like for donald trump and donald trump jr. Watching the collins and son being dragged into Federal Court yesterday . And New York Times columnist tom freedman who can be very persuasive will try to change my mind about Televising Trump rallies from start to finish. Your hair is so soft did you use head and shoulders two in one . I did mom. Wanna try it . Yes. It intensely moisturizes your hair and scalp and keeps you flake free. Manolo . Look at my soft hair. I should be in the shot now too. Try head and shoulders two in one. indistthat was awful. Tering why are you so good at this . Had a coach in high school. Really helped me up my game. I had a coach. Math. Ooh. So, Why Dont Traders have coaches . Who says they dont . Coach mcadoo you know, at td ameritrade, we offer free access to coaches and a full education curriculum just to help you improve your skills. Boom mad skills. Education to take your trading to the next level. Only with td ameritrade. Can actually shake my firmly held opinions. In his latest column he says that televising Donald Trumps rallies is the right thing for the news media to do professionally and, quote, it is the right thing to do politically if you want to see a check on Donald Trumps power. It appears that its the toxic lying, bullying and unpresident ial behaviors that trump exhibits most in his rallies and tweets which we in the media cover that is turning off the very moderate best educated republicans and suburban women that trump will need to hold the gop majority in the house, let alone get reelected. So bring on the coverage. Tom makes the point that even with a strong economy, Donald Trumps approval has not increased since he was elected. He has not converted any of the voters that did not vote for him. Tom freedman writes, the very applause writes in abusive and divisive behaviors that appeal to his base turn off more moderate and educated suburban republicans and do nothing to attract independents or conservative democrats. Toms conclusion for the news media is, quote, i want wall to wall coverage of trumps every speech, rally, tweet and utterance because they most reveal his character and trumps character is the sealing on trumps presidency. Joining us now is tom freedman. And, tom, i believe you began this segment with this audience with approximately zero agreement to your position. But maybe some of what i quoted is pulling people in your way. Your column really moved me. You make a very strong case. Well, i appreciate it, lawrence. It was a surprise to me. Because i watched the Senate Election in alabama where the democrat won coming out of nowhere. You watch the election in pennsylvania. You watch the one in ohio. And the one in ohio was most striking because this was a strict that had not sent a democrat to congress in over three decades. It is a district that trump won by 11 Percentage Points and the republican candidate seems to be winning by at the most one. So something clearly is going on here that has eroded trumps base. I often start, lawrence, by interviewing myself and what do i feel. What i feel is when i watch these rallies, when i see these tweets, i feel appalled. I feel appalled as an american by the toxicity. I feel ashamed to see a president attacking such a high quality american sport star as lebron james after hes opened a school for 400 impoverished kids. It turns out, lawrence, that there are moderate republicans out there. There are independents and suburban women that are deeply turned off by this. They voted with their feet. They voted by pulling levers, showing up in the polls. They kept the lid on trumps support. If we deny them this access to the president , the full trump, i think were not doing our jobs professional but someone who believes that it is essential that there be a check on trumps power for the last two years of his presidency. At a minimum democratic control of the house. I think it would be a mistake politically. You make the point in your column something that i have heard mike murphy say last week i think possibly in a tweet that the way to cover the rally is to just set up one camera for all the networks to get the feed for that one camera. Do not send reporters into that pen, that cage that the Trump Campaign and now the Trump Presidency sets up, a cage for reporters where theyre not allowed to even talk to any of the members of the audience. So there is no Reporting Function for them to do there. Set up the camera. We all get the video. My version of that is set up the camera. We all get the video, and i will show you if the president says Anything Worth showing to you, which might be something grotesque or it might be something newsworthy. Your argument is, no, let it run. Let people see every bit of it. I think trump is a disturbed person. I think there is something deeply disturbing about these rallies. I find it appalling, people showing up in a tshirt saying i prefer russians over democrats. These are deeply abhorrent behaviors. I think there are many thinking republicans who are telling us by how they voted. I interviewed in that column stanley greenberg, the veteran pollster who has been Running Focus Groups with republicans. This is exactly what hes found that moderate republicans are turned off by it. Some more die hard ones about half of them are and even evangelicals, it all reminds them of the bargain they made in supporting donald trump. While they are not abandoning him, this is not resounding to his favor. You know, there is the sasha bar remember cohens new show that he opens with these clips of former president s of the United States saying some of their most famous lines. Then he includes this moment, which i will show now, of donald trump mimicking steve. This is Donald Trumps entry in that line of president ials comment. I dont know what i said. I dont remember. And, tom, it is absolutely repulsive every time. It is shocking when it comes up at the end of the flow that includes jfk and fdr. Your point is the more the public sees of that the worse it is for donald trump. Im a big believer that the biggest lid on President Donald Trump is the character of donald trump. We have talked about this a little before, lawrence. You have to remember with trump, too, we havent had a crisis yet. There has been no, thank god, 2011. But crises can come. When a crisis comes, he blames others. He doesnt take responsibility. And, so, all of this is part of the mans character. I think we have been exposed to it now in isolation from hillary clinton. You know, in the election two years ago people said, well, i am going to plug my nose and vote for the guy with bad character because i cant vote for hillary clinton. But now we have had two years of the full trump. And i think a lot of people understand that this is a personality and this is a person who needs to be checked. I dont know if it will be enough. It depends on the democratic candidate in every district in every state. You cant be something with nothing. And that will have to come down the road. But i think character matters. And this is another thing i believe. And maybe it is just the minnesota nice Midwestern Boy in me, but i think americans really want to be pulled together. I dont think they like being divided. And im not saying all of them. But i think there is a constituency there. When you think about how narrowly trump won some of these states, it doesnt take a lot of republicans to stay home. Just to stay home, let alone vote for a democrat to tip the election in some of these districts. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. Pleasure, lawrence. Thank you. Coming up, today is the fourth anniversary of the killing of Michael Brown, the unarmed 18yearold who was shot and killed in ferguson, missouri. One of the people who was protesting that killing at that time has just won the election for District Attorney in ferguson. We will also have more on the Insider Trading case of Congressman Collins and his son. I tried to quit smoking for years on my own. I couldnt do it. I needed help. For me, chantix worked. It did. Chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. Chantix, without a doubt, reduced my urge to smoke. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. Some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. Serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be lifethreatening. Stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. Tell your Healthcare Provider if youve had depression or other Mental Health problems. Decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. Use caution when driving or operating machinery. The most common side effect is nausea. I dont think about cigarettes anymore. Talk to your doctor about chantix. I dont think about cigarettes anymore. The full value oft wyour new car . Youd be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. Im gonna regret that. With Liberty Mutual new Richard Nixon<\/a> was being investigated by a Special Prosecutor<\/a> and by congress, it was a special investigation in congress. While most republicans tried to look at the mounting evidence against president nixon as favorably as possible, none of them ever tried to say anything like this. Just remember what youre seeing and what youre reading is not whats happening. Republicans did not try to deny reality during the investigation of Richard Nixon<\/a> and eventually it was a group of republican senators who went to the white house to tell president nixon to his face that he should resign immediately because the House Of Representatives<\/a> would definitely vote to impeach him based on the latest evidence and the United States<\/a> senate would easily reach a twothirds Majority Vote<\/a> to convict and remove president nixon from office in an impeachment trial. Analysis and discussion of the days top stories and compelling issues from Lawrence ODonnell. Thats what you heard devin nunes say. If sessions wont unrecuse and mueller wont clear the president , were the only ones. So what theyre saying there is if the Attorney General<\/a> of the United States<\/a> abides by his oath to defend the constitution, and if the Special Prosecutor<\/a>, Robert Mueller<\/a>, abides by his oath to defend the constitution, then it will be up to them, the republican members of the congress, to defend donald trump against the defenders of the constitution. 44 years ago today Richard Nixon<\/a> left the white house for the last time because there was no devin nunes in the House Of Representatives<\/a> telling all the other republicans were the only ones who can save their president. It wasnt always this way. If the republicans who served in\rwhat i hear him saying is if the Attorney General<\/a> upholds the rule of law and if Rod Rosenstein<\/a> and Robert Mueller<\/a> uphold the rule of law, it will be up to us in the congress to obstruct this investigation from coming to an ending point. And jonathan, there is much more that was said that rachel and i played last night in that meeting. But being able to hear the way republicans talk in private is a very special opportunity, as these tapes demonstrate. Yeah. This is a situation where things that we sort of understood intuitively, things that we know just by watching the actions that theyre not taking, we get to hear them say with words what it is that they are actually doing. That as you said so eloquently at the top of this show, they are putting the livelihood of the president , the presidency, their own standing because theyre all Living In Fear<\/a> of the popularity of the president \rwhat shes doing, they know what shes doing and they dont like what shes doing. She will be fighting for her political life in november. Joyce vance, youre someone who has taken an Oath Of Office<\/a> as a u. S. Attorney to serve in this government. As you know, there are tens of thousands of people in Washington Working In<\/a> washington in the congress, in the agencies, in the departments who have taken an Oath Of Office<\/a>. And, you know, i know it can sound naive to people out there who have either never taken that oath or dont know people who have and washington can seem like a purely political place. But every once in a while when people would ask me about how things would work in the senate, i would find myself saying when they were getting overly cynical about things and it is hard to get more cynical than i am, i would find myself saying, you know, even the most political of them every once in a while, they do come up against that oath\rbecause the oath was, when i was there certainly, taken seriously. It still moves me to say or read the words of that oath tonight in talking about it. And so i just i just wonder if you share my stunned amazement at the way those oaths seem to be completely disregarded by devin nunes and what he had to say. It is almost as though the words have no meaning to them. You know, in my office in birmingham, lawrence, when brandnew prosecutors like me, i was a Career Prosecutor<\/a> before i was the u. S. Attorney, and when you took your Oath Of Office<\/a>, it was special. We all went over to the courthouse and one of the federal judges swore you in in front of all of your new colleagues. But also in front of your family, your parents and your spouse and your children would come. And we would meet each others families. It was an incredibly solemn moment. I think it sounds a little bit sappy. Doj prosecutors dont usually talk about it outside of their offices. But people take that oath\rincredibly seriously. And you will find that people when theyre confronting difficult issues will use that as a touch stone to think whats the right thing to do because tomorrow ill stand up in court and i say i represent the United States<\/a> of america. Same thing for people in the house elected officials on the hill. They stand up every day to represent the people of the United States<\/a> of america. Some of them dont seem to take that very seriously. Yeah. And i have to say, i didnt know when i started working in the senate that i had to take an oath, the same oath that the senators take. Everybody working there does, the receptionists, everyone. So i was thrown into it without any real preparation that it was suddenly happening. My right hand was raised and it was instantly an emotional moment. You never forget. New nbc news Wall Street Journal<\/a> poll. More likely 48 . Less likely 23 . That is just an enormous gap in favor of what obviously is the democrats in the way that question is asked. Right. That gets to what i was saying, i guess preemptively about Cathy Mcmorris<\/a> rodgers. Shes not providing a check on the president. And, so, she barely made the top spot. In Washington State<\/a> they had the socalled jungle primaries. The top two vote getters go on to november. Shes the number four person in the republican conference. So now she might not be there. If that holds out, if that poll number holds out to be true, she could be out. You know, back during watergate, back during the clinton era when congress viewed itself as an equal to the executive, an equal to the president. The president was one branch, they, the members of congress, viewed themselves as someone who was supposed to, no matter the party, keep the executive in\rcheck because the framers of the constitution set this government up so that the people, through their representatives, could ensure that the executive would not run over the people and over the constitution. And the republicans have shown time and time again, particularly when it comes to donald trump, that they couldnt care less about their Oath Of Office<\/a>. That oath, i have never had to take that oath, lawrence, but i have friends who have. And the thing that makes it so emotional for you and for joyce and for my friends who have taken that oath is that they suddenly realize that they are making an oath to something that is much bigger than themselves. They are taking an oath to protect, not just the constitution, but their country, but their families and the fact that you have a whole branch of government that has just seeded that authority, that moral authority to a president who has shown time and again that he couldnt care less about the rule of law, its galling. Through that number that you just showed, 48 of the American People<\/a> think its galling as well. Jonathan, joyce, thank you for starting us off tonight. Thank you. Thanks, lawrence. And now that republican congressman Chris Collins<\/a> and his son have been charged with federal crimes, which one of them might get a plea deal to escape prison time in exchange for testifying against the other . And what is it like for donald trump and donald trump jr. Watching the collins and son being dragged into Federal Court<\/a> yesterday . And New York Times<\/a> columnist tom freedman who can be very persuasive will try to change my mind about Televising Trump<\/a> rallies from start to finish. Your hair is so soft did you use head and shoulders two in one . I did mom. Wanna try it . Yes. It intensely moisturizes your hair and scalp and keeps you flake free. Manolo . Look at my soft hair. I should be in the shot now too. Try head and shoulders two in one. indistthat was awful. Tering why are you so good at this . Had a coach in high school. Really helped me up my game. I had a coach. Math. Ooh. So, Why Dont Traders<\/a> have coaches . Who says they dont . Coach mcadoo you know, at td ameritrade,\rwe offer free access to coaches and a full education curriculum just to help you improve your skills. Boom mad skills. Education to take your trading to the next level. Only with td ameritrade. Can actually shake my firmly held opinions. In his latest column he says that televising Donald Trumps<\/a> rallies is the right thing for the news media to do professionally and, quote, it is the right thing to do politically if you want to see a check on Donald Trumps<\/a> power. It appears that its the toxic lying, bullying and unpresident ial behaviors that trump exhibits most in his rallies and tweets which we in the media cover that is turning off the very moderate best educated republicans and suburban women that trump will need to hold the gop majority in the house, let alone get reelected. So bring on the coverage. Tom makes the point that even with a strong economy, Donald Trumps<\/a> approval has not increased since he was elected. He has not converted any of the voters that did not vote for him. Tom freedman writes, the very applause writes in abusive and divisive behaviors that appeal to his base turn off more\rmoderate and educated suburban republicans and do nothing to attract independents or conservative democrats. Toms conclusion for the news media is, quote, i want wall to wall coverage of trumps every speech, rally, tweet and utterance because they most reveal his character and trumps character is the sealing on trumps presidency. Joining us now is tom freedman. And, tom, i believe you began this segment with this audience with approximately zero agreement to your position. But maybe some of what i quoted is pulling people in your way. Your column really moved me. You make a very strong case. Well, i appreciate it, lawrence. It was a surprise to me. Because i watched the Senate Election<\/a> in alabama where the democrat won coming out of nowhere. You watch the election in pennsylvania. You watch the one in ohio. And the one in ohio was most striking because this was a strict that had not sent a democrat to congress in over three decades. It is a district that trump won by 11 Percentage Points<\/a> and the republican candidate seems to be winning by at the most one. So something clearly is going on here that has eroded trumps base. I often start, lawrence, by interviewing myself and what do i feel. What i feel is when i watch these rallies, when i see these tweets, i feel appalled. I feel appalled as an american by the toxicity. I feel ashamed to see a president attacking such a high\rquality american sport star as lebron james after hes opened a school for 400 impoverished kids. It turns out, lawrence, that there are moderate republicans out there. There are independents and suburban women that are deeply turned off by this. They voted with their feet. They voted by pulling levers, showing up in the polls. They kept the lid on trumps support. If we deny them this access to the president , the full trump, i think were not doing our jobs professional but someone who believes that it is essential that there be a check on trumps power for the last two years of his presidency. At a minimum democratic control of the house. I think it would be a mistake politically. You make the point in your column something that i have heard mike murphy say last week\ri think possibly in a tweet that the way to cover the rally is to just set up one camera for all the networks to get the feed for that one camera. Do not send reporters into that pen, that cage that the Trump Campaign<\/a> and now the Trump Presidency<\/a> sets up, a cage for reporters where theyre not allowed to even talk to any of the members of the audience. So there is no Reporting Function<\/a> for them to do there. Set up the camera. We all get the video. My version of that is set up the camera. We all get the video, and i will show you if the president says Anything Worth<\/a> showing to you, which might be something grotesque or it might be something newsworthy. Your argument is, no, let it run. Let people see every bit of it. I think trump is a disturbed person. I think there is something deeply disturbing about these rallies. I find it appalling, people showing up in a tshirt saying i prefer russians over democrats. These are deeply abhorrent behaviors. I think there are many thinking republicans who are telling us\rby how they voted. I interviewed in that column stanley greenberg, the veteran pollster who has been Running Focus Groups<\/a> with republicans. This is exactly what hes found that moderate republicans are turned off by it. Some more die hard ones about half of them are and even evangelicals, it all reminds them of the bargain they made in supporting donald trump. While they are not abandoning him, this is not resounding to his favor. You know, there is the sasha bar remember cohens new show that he opens with these clips of former president s of the United States<\/a> saying some of their most famous lines. Then he includes this moment, which i will show now, of donald trump mimicking steve. This is Donald Trumps<\/a> entry in that line of president ials comment. I dont know what i said. I dont remember. And, tom, it is absolutely\rrepulsive every time. It is shocking when it comes up at the end of the flow that includes jfk and fdr. Your point is the more the public sees of that the worse it is for donald trump. Im a big believer that the biggest lid on President Donald Trump<\/a> is the character of donald trump. We have talked about this a little before, lawrence. You have to remember with trump, too, we havent had a crisis yet. There has been no, thank god, 2011. But crises can come. When a crisis comes, he blames others. He doesnt take responsibility. And, so, all of this is part of the mans character. I think we have been exposed to it now in isolation from hillary clinton. You know, in the election two years ago people said, well, i am going to plug my nose and vote for the guy with bad character because i cant vote for hillary clinton. But now we have had two years of\rthe full trump. And i think a lot of people understand that this is a personality and this is a person who needs to be checked. I dont know if it will be enough. It depends on the democratic candidate in every district in every state. You cant be something with nothing. And that will have to come down the road. But i think character matters. And this is another thing i believe. And maybe it is just the minnesota nice Midwestern Boy<\/a> in me, but i think americans really want to be pulled together. I dont think they like being divided. And im not saying all of them. But i think there is a constituency there. When you think about how narrowly trump won some of these states, it doesnt take a lot of republicans to stay home. Just to stay home, let alone vote for a democrat to tip the election in some of these districts. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. Pleasure, lawrence. Thank you. Coming up, today is the fourth anniversary of the killing of Michael Brown<\/a>, the unarmed 18yearold who was shot and killed in ferguson, missouri. One of the people who was protesting that killing at that time has just won the election for District Attorney<\/a> in ferguson. We will also have more on the Insider Trading<\/a> case of Congressman Collins<\/a> and his son. I tried to quit smoking for years on my own. I couldnt do it. I needed help. For me, chantix worked. It did. Chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. Chantix, without a doubt, reduced my urge to smoke. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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Reports indicate that President Trump<\/a>s First National<\/a> security adviser, Michael Flynn<\/a>, was facing the possibility of being charged with crimes along with his son when Michael Flynn<\/a> reached a plea deal with Special Prosecutor<\/a> bob mueller. Michael flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi and his son, Michael Flynn<\/a> jr. , was not charged with any times. Watching a couple of years now of this republican father and son mini, very mini crime spree from their front row seats are donald trump jr. And donald trump. Donald trump is no Michael Flynn<\/a>. Donald trump has never put his Children First<\/a> or anyone else first. There is no chance of donald trump volunteering to take the hit in a criminal investigation in order to save his son or his daughter or his soninlaw or anyone else. Chris collins finds himself in a very different situation than Michael Flynn<\/a> did. Congressman collins son is already now charged with crimes and so it is a lot less clear that Congressman Collins<\/a> can get his son off the hook by taking the hit and pleading guilty the way Michael Flynn<\/a> did. Congressman collins is the big fish in this investigation. His son, Cameron Collins<\/a>, is the\rlittle fish. So what Congressman Collins<\/a> has to wonder is how long will it take for his son to turn against him . How long will it take for Congressman Collins<\/a> son to plead guilty in exchange for no prison time and testify against his father . And that is the drama that President Trump<\/a> will watch most closely, how long does it take for the son to turn against the father . Joining our discussion now, david k. Johnson who founded d. C. Report. Org. He is the author of it is even worse than you think, what the Trump Administration<\/a> is doing to america. And back with us, joyce vance. David, what do you suppose is going through the trump minds as they watch the collins case unfold . Thank Goodness Daddy<\/a> has the power of the pardon probably is their first thought. Yes. Which Chris Collins<\/a> does not\rhave. And i have been talking tonight to both republicans and democrats and Business People<\/a> up here in Western New York<\/a> where i live. And it is astonishing to hear how on both sides people really dislike Chris Collins<\/a> and feel like he is getting his just deserves in this indictment. When i look at the collins case, the father, the congressman is the big fish. The son, it seems to me, is the place where the prosecutors would go and be willing, possibly, to make a deal for the son to testify against the father. Then putting even more pressure on the father to possibly testify or reveal something about his relationship with the five other republican members of congress who he got to invest in this stock that he was charged with Insider Trading<\/a>. Yeah. You know, a lot of open questions on this one. You would expect prosecutors to have typically approached collins and his son preindictment to see if they could work a deal at that stage. To seeing them both together in this indictment possibly is a signal that collins wasnt willing to cooperate, at least not preindictment to spare his son from being indicted and going through this charging process. It is a little bit difficult to know what to make about collins possibility as a witness against other congress people. He looks like more of the big fish in this one to me than they do. And typically you dont see a big fish testifying against lesser participants in a conspiracy. But again we dont know how everything stacks up here and we dont know who else collins might be able to offer testimony against. So a lot of shoes left to drop off the centipede in this one. And, david, up there in up state new york in the western part of the state near buffalo where you live in the rochester area, part of the same area, Chris Collins<\/a> now running for reelection. Just running for reelection and\rhis Statement Last<\/a> night was i will not answer any questions about this case between now and election night. And, so, how is that going to work in the campaign . Well, prior to the indictment, even with all the bad local publicity he has gotten, he was probably a shoein. But he may now be in jeopardy because of this. And i think there is quickly spreading awareness that he was the largest shareholder in this australian company. He and his family owned over 20 of all the shares that he was tauting to other members of congress. And one of the things i expect his democratic opponent, who is the manager of a suburban island called grand island to hammer him on is that members of the congress shouldnt be investors in individual stocks and they certainly shouldnt be the largest single shareholder in a company. They should only be able to own, you know, mutual funds and things like that. Yeah. David, this is one of those stories where one of the big parts of the scandal is what was\rlegal. He could be on the house energy and Commerce Committee<\/a> an the subcommittee with jurisdiction over some Health Care Issues<\/a> where hes heavily invested in a health care company. And weve had other members of congress in the past who were known to have, with their cell phones, you know, issued orders for trades while theyre in hearings about legislation in front of them. And that this has not been stopped. It is one of the biggest changes we need. We need to make sure that members of congress, just like we would expect of the president , represent the people in their district and america, not their personal financial and venal interests. Thank you both for joining us tonight. Four years ago, protesters in ferguson, missouri were demanding the District Attorney<\/a> be removed from the investigation of the Police Killing<\/a> of Michael Brown<\/a>. Tuesday night the District Attorney<\/a> was removed from his job, in effect, when one of the\rpeople who was with those protesters four years ago defeated the District Attorney<\/a> in his reelection campaign, wesley bell, who will be the next District Attorney<\/a> in ferguson, missouri, will be our next guest. The fact is, there are over ninetysix hundred roads named park in the u. S. Its americas most popular street name. But Allstate Agents<\/a> know thats where the similarity stops. 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For fastacting, longlasting relief, try doctor recommended gaviscon. It quickly neutralizes stomach acid and helps keep acid down for hours. Relieve heartburn with fast acting, longlasting gaviscon. On this very day, august 9th, exactly four years ago at 12 01 p. M. , 18yearold Michael Brown<\/a> was shot six times and killed by a ferguson, Missouri Police<\/a> officer. Michael brown was unarmed at least 100 feet away from the Police Officer<\/a> and incapable of harming the Police Officer<\/a> when the officer began firing at Michael Brown<\/a>. As the bullets hit Michael Brown<\/a>, rendering him completely helpless, the officer decided to continue to fire. Michael brown was hit with six bullets, including one in the head, to stop what was obviously a nonexistent threat. Ferguson Missouri Police<\/a> left Michael Brown<\/a>s body on the street where he fell for four hours on this day four years ago and the people in ferguson roads up in protest. It was the kind of protest we had seen many, many times before in this country, including when Arthur Mcduffy<\/a> was killed by police in 1979 in miami. But the protests we saw in ferguson, missouri, combined with the Police Reaction<\/a> to those protests turned into the first rioting over police use of deadly force that occurred since the invention of cable news and the internet and social media. There was no cable news to cover the rioting in miami in 1980 after the Arthur Mcduffy<\/a> case or many of the other cases that occurred in those days. And so the mcduffy case remained a mostly local story. America did not wake up then to the problems associated with police use of deadly force. But four years ago, the Cable News Media<\/a> immediately descended on ferguson where we were reporting live from the streets every day and night of the unrest and barack obama became the first president of the United States<\/a> to publically discuss police use of deadly\rforce and acknowledge that abuse of that police power to kill is a problem. It took the killing of Michael Brown<\/a> and the rioting that followed to finally get all of america to Pay Attention<\/a> to police use of deadly force. Sadly, nothing gets americas attention quite like a riot. It took the killing of Michael Brown<\/a> and the communitys reaction to it to get the Attorney General<\/a> of the United States<\/a> for the first time in history to respond directly to protests about a killing by police and actually go to that community and listen to their concerns. When the Attorney General<\/a> went there, he met wesley bell. He joined us on that program on that day that he met the Attorney General<\/a>. He joined us by phone during our live coverage of the protests\rthat were occurring that night. One of the targets of the protesters was District Attorney<\/a> Bob Mccullough<\/a> who was guiding a grand jury through a process that would lead to no charges being filed against the officer that shot and killed the unarmed Michael Brown<\/a>. I asked him then about Public Comments<\/a> District Attorney<\/a> mccullough had been making that sounded biassed to the protesters. This is what he told us that night. What i do know is that our elected leaders need to set a precedent or a tone of confidence so the public feels confident in that justice is being served. And i think that, you know, again, i dont know mr. Mccullough personally. But my one constructive criticism would be that the comments that are coming out of the office dont arent they arent inspiring. They arent encouraging. They seem to be something other than transparency. If he was to ask my advice, which he is not, i would say understand that the world is watching, that ferguson, north county and st. Louis are watching and let us feel that this is a whole this situation is being handled transparently. Protesters were then calling for the District Attorney<\/a> to be removed from the investigation of the Michael Brown<\/a> case. On tuesday night, wesley bell removed Bob Mccullough<\/a> from his job in effect as District Attorney<\/a> by winning the democratic primary for District Attorney<\/a>. No republican is running for the job, so in November Wesley Bell<\/a> will no doubt officially be elected the next District Attorney<\/a> with jurisdiction over ferguson, missouri. Wesley bell joins us next. With advil liquigels, what bad shoulder . What headache . Advil is relief thats fast strength that lasts youll ask. What pain . With advil liquigels\rit. You ran one of the things you ran on in your platform was appointing Special Prosecutor<\/a>s for Police Involved<\/a> shootings. That obviously is an echo of the Michael Brown<\/a> case. How much was the Michael Brown<\/a> case a factor in your win . I dont think anyone can deny the effect that ferguson brought to light the need to address issues like criminal justice reform, the need to address issues like mass incarceration. People became aware as a result of ferguson. I dont know what the exact contribution would be as far as numbers or what have you, but i know when i talk to voters across st. Louis county, many were very aware of these issues and im sure it played some part. It was an overwhelming victory, you got 56 of the vote against mcculloughs 43 of the vote. It was just a wipeout. Is that the way it felt to you as election day was approaching . Ill tell you, all indications said we would win and we would win big. The only hesitancy was, man, this is a 27year incumbent so i dont want to get too confident. But we were knocking on doors, we were seeing the support coming from all over st. Louis county. And people were enthused, even when people came up to me and i said i would like to introduce myself and they said, i know who you are, i want to vote for you. It was a great evening, obviously, for us. When did you decide to run . You know, i had forgotten that i had done that interview\rwith you. And so, you know, i can say after i ran for city council, i started to at least think about that office because as a public defender and as a Defense Attorney<\/a> and even as a Municipal Court<\/a> prosecutor ive worked against and with that office. Ive always disagreed with the practices and policies. And i always thought to myself, i could never work in that office, i would have to run it. So after i was elected, you know, now its an empowering feeling. And so now your mind wanders and you think, okay, maybe i could do this. I know around the time of that interview, the seeds were being planted, if you will. You and i have something in common, were both the sons of Police Officer<\/a>s. Im wondering how that affects\ryour approach to policing police. First of all, i have to say retired Police Officer<\/a>, my dad reminds me of that every single time i talk to him. What its instilled in me is a respect for law enforcement. I know thats one of the toughest jobs in the world. At the same time, just like everyone watching this show is accountable for their actions, if officers break the law, they need to be accountable as well. Having said that, if theres an officerinvolved shooting, god forbid, and the officer did everything correctly, were going to support that officer 200 . But if the officer violated the law, the officer, again, needs to be held accountable just like anybody watching would be accountable for their actions. Wesley bell, congratulations on the big win and thank you very much for joining The Last Word<\/a> again tonight. We really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Well be right back. L. Because national lets me lose the wait at the counter. And choose any car in the aisle. And i dont wait when i return, thanks to drop go. At national, i can lose the wait. And keep it off. Looking good, patrick. I know. vo go national. Go like a pro. Crisp leaves of lettuce. Freshly made dressing. Clean food that looks this good. Delivered to your desk. Now delivering to home or office. Panera. Food as it should be. Omar, check this out. Uh, yeah, i was calling to see if you do laser hair removal. For men. Notice that my hips are off the ground. [ Engine Revving<\/a> ] and then, im Gonna Pike My<\/a> hips back into downward dog. [ rhythmic tapping ] hey, the rain stopped. A bad day on the road still beats a good one off it. 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